The Obama Delusion

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  • Posted By: texasindependent @ 02/20/2008 7:21:33 PM

    This argument just doesn't hold water. Number one, president's don't make law and number two, if you look closely you'll find Hilary's senate record has no more dearth than Obama's beside which why would I give anyone who has been a part of the mockery that is our government for the last 20 years a free pass for having experience. I don't and a lot of people don't.

    Obama's momentum doesn't have as much to do with people falling in love with him as it has to do with a lot of people realizing exactly what they get with Clinton or McCain in my opinion. People don't want the same old crap and realize where it has gotten us.

    I'm in Texas, so I'll be voting for Obama, but with the candidates the republicans trotted out this year and the same tired old platform, I wasn't going to throw in with the republicans even if it hadn't been decided. Both of these parties have a lot of work to do in my opinion and I think a lot of people are being far too easy on them by continuing the partisan bashing.

    It's absurd and never gets us anywhere.

  • Posted By: Snowbearer @ 02/20/2008 7:20:46 PM

    I'm glad to see someone writing about the lack of substance in Obama's campaign rhetoric. Ask him a tough question, and he immediately attacks the Clinton campaign. Take a look at Obama's voting record the three years he's been in Congress. That should give you and insight into what he's all about . Shakespeare said it best in Hamelot - " full of sound and fury signifying nothing."

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 02/20/2008 7:17:38 PM

    IT is TIME TO SEND A MESSAGE AND DELIVER THE KNOCK OUT BLOW.
    TAKING YOUR GLOVES OFF EARLY IS NOT ALWAYS THE WISEST DECISION TO MAKE. SOME MIGHT EVEN CALL IT NAIVE.

    ONE OF THE MAIN POINTS OBAMA MADE IN LAST NIGHTS SPEECH WAS THAT THE CHALLENGE of implementing change is JUST BEGINNING> THAT CHANGE IS NOT EASY. AND WILL TAKE A UNITED EFFORT from all not just a few.

    CAN HILLARY MAKE HER LAST STAND IN TEXAS AND OHIO A SUCCESSFUL ONE.

    "OR WILL THIS OBAMA WAVE , POWERED BY A THUNDEROUS MOVEMENT FOR CHANGE, SWALLOW HILLARY AND HER ARMY OF LATINOS" eddiewhere 2008.

    OBAMA GAVE A TREMENDOUS SPEECH IN TEXAS LAST NIGHT.
    THE HIGHLIGHT OF THE SPEECH WAS WHEN OBAMA MENTIONED THAT SOME LEADERS SAY THAT I CANNOT ENGAGE OUR ENEMIES IN DISCUSSION. TO THEM I SAY YES I CAN.
    YES WE CAN. YES WE CAN.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 02/20/2008 7:16:41 PM

    EVERY STATISTIC AND POLL HAVE Unanimously INDICATE THAT OBAMA WILL DEFEAT McCAIN IN A NATIONAL ELECTION. THIS IS THE REASON OBAMA WILL BE THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE.

    McCain WILL BE DEFEATED IN A LAND SLIDE BY OBAMA in A NATIONAL ELECTION. McCain is not he best candidate to bring economic change. THE BUSH ECONOMIC AGENDA WILL BE CONTINUED UNDER McCAIN.
    THE ECONOMY AND THE WAR are AGAINST McCAIN. HIS ONLY SOLUTION IS TO MAINTAIN THE STATUS QUO"FOR A HUNDRED YEARS". WHO IS GOING TO PAY FOR THIS. NOT ME, PERHAPS HOLY ROLLER CAN FUND THIS HUNDRED YEAR AGENDA McCAIN HAS READY FOR ALL TAX PAYING AMERICANS.

    HE WANTS TO KEEP THE BUSH TAX CUT'S INTACT. AS KARL ROVE MENTIONED IN HIS MOST RECENT ARTICLE IN NEWS WEEK, the REGAN ERA IS OVER. SUPPLY SIDE ECONOMICS IS NOT THE ANSWER.

    THE MIDDLE CLASS WILL HAVE TO SUFFER UNDER McCAIN.
    HE BELIEVES THIS AMERICAN SUFFERING IS NECESSARY IN ORDER TO CARRY OUT A MISGUIDED FOREIGN POLICY WHICH IS BASED ON FEAR AND NOT REALITY. IN FACT McCAIN'S AGENDA IS BADLY OUTDATED AND VERY UNPOPULAR AMONG MANY CONSERVATIVES IN HIS OWN PARTY, manY oF WHOM WILL VOTE FOR OBAMA OR STAY HOME IN NOVEMBER.

    REMEMBER THE PROBLEMS IN IRAQ AND PALESTINE AND THE REST OF THAT REGION ARE
    POLITICAL in NATURE. McCAIN is a great MILITARY MAN. BUT HIS EXPERTISE WAS NEEDED in TWO THOUSAND TWO, not now. WE NEED CHANGE. AND OBAMA WILL BE ABLE TO UNITE FACTIONS IN ORDER TO BRING STABILITY TO THAT REGION.

    I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO OBAMA APPOINTING McCAIN TO BE THE NEXT HEAD OF HOMELAND SECURTIY.

    McCAIN's VIABILITY TO BECOME PRESIDENT EXPIRED FOUR YEARS AGO.

  • Posted By: valdastaton @ 02/20/2008 7:16:10 PM

    You've met him, but do you know him? Yeah, he has a theme: "hope". It keeps journalists foaming at the mouth and inspires citizens who are without (the young, the sick, the poor, veterans, seniors, undereducated kiis turned adults, etc.) to identify their needs and challenge the powers that be for solutions. NO MORE WHINING. Yesterday evening, Barack Obama began detailing his positions on/plan to address issues adversely us all. Who would you yourself belive to be a better alternative? McCain is strong in foreign affairs. Hillary has enemies on both sides of the isle and an overflowing plate of answers she can't not see through. Edwards--my preference--had to bow out because the media wouldn't give him the time of day.

  • Posted By: mksl1 @ 02/20/2008 7:05:24 PM

    Any Obama supporters care to list a single legislative accomplishment of his?
    If you can please send your comment to Obama's campaign managers.
    They've been unable to list any.

    • Posted By: sethwhite @ 02/20/2008 7:15:25 PM

      That's nonsense. He wrote racial profiling out of the Illinois law. He required video interrogation of suspects and worked to overturn the prison system that was putting innocent people to death in Illinois. He broadened health care so that thousands of low-income people in Illinois could get insurance. Quit parroting the latest spin and look something up once. It won't kill you. I agree that he hasn't been in office as long as McCain -- and I respect McCain for his years of service. But Obama's best gift is his ability to create a coalition of willing and get tehm excited. Just you watch. We're going to change America into a better country whether you like it or not.

  • Posted By: mksl1 @ 02/20/2008 7:14:37 PM

    "He is a great speech giver".
    Well,beyond his "speech giving" talents what has he accomplished in the senate?
    Whyother than making a vote against the war,didn't he actually DO something to stop it? Where was the great "speech giver" then? Why didn't HE introduce legeslation to stop the war?
    Another empty suit offering back-to-the-future gore/mondale ideas.
    But he sure is pretty on TV huh?
    I guess for some people that's all they need.

  • Posted By: ObamaBacker @ 02/20/2008 6:21:45 PM

    I don't know how anyone could think Clinton can run the country and she can't even run a campaign!!! How many campaign magers has she gone through? How many times has she changed her message? How many times has she changed her tactics? She had $140 million going into Super Tuesday now she's almost backrupt. You want this person to handle a fragile economy?? The fact she will not disclose her tax returns (something every candidate does) shows she's as sneaky as the guy we have in office now! Amazing the choices people make.

    • Posted By: coolrepublica @ 02/20/2008 6:30:15 PM

      Hillary is not running against Obama If she was there would not be any problem but she is running against people illusion of who he is. she is running against their desire for something call hope. They don't care if Obama killed a whole clan of children, as far as Obama supporters are concerned he would have been justified. Try running again that.

      • Posted By: sethwhite @ 02/20/2008 7:09:41 PM

        Yeah, that's Hillary's problem. She is running against Hope. Skepticism and pragmatism and better-of-two-evils is her platform. And that just can't win. The Clintons had their shot, and they did some really good things -- I'll give them that. Their legacy is strong, but now is not their time. This is Barack Obama's time to lead America in his way. It is our time to rally behind a common cause, a common vision, and to move America forward.

  • Posted By: mksl1 @ 02/20/2008 7:09:26 PM

    lillea,
    HEY,HEY wait a second.There's no call for that kind of ugly comparison.Obama is just an empty-suited motivational speaker.
    But Castro was mass murdering dictator.

  • Posted By: dewcooper @ 02/20/2008 4:41:56 PM

    You know, the many posts on here trying to defend Obama have proven the author's point - Obama says nothing, but he does it very well. None of the Obama supports can so HOW Obama will bring about effective change.

    • Posted By: OH-IO for Obama @ 02/20/2008 5:00:42 PM

      Not so easily - the answer to your question....wait for it....BIPARTISANSHIP...interesting new concept huh?

      • Posted By: lyingbigot @ 02/20/2008 7:08:00 PM

        To dewcooper: the answer is so simple that am amazed you haven't grasped it yet!! remember the last time you were really happy ? you went out of your way to do things for others, you put in your best at work and wanted to brighten somebody's day. And it is called the feel good factor and that is what it takes. the ability to bring the best in you and everybody will make us great once again and We are the change we've been waiting for. At the moment we are all paranoid and suspicious of everything and everyone no wonder we are in real bad shape!! Even Communist China is easing up on restrictions whiles we are heaping them on.
        It takes a wise man/woman to know that UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL. And that ofcourse is the ethos of Obama's campaign message and it works!! .

  • Posted By: Cascadia @ 02/20/2008 2:11:31 PM

    To little to late. The fourth estate has let us down by not vetting Obama earlier. Clearly the press is now really just entertainment and they are the ones who will own Obama not us.

    • Posted By: Crabby @ 02/20/2008 7:07:34 PM

      Your comment is the most perceptive, accurate comment on the whole board. The media has rigged this election.

    • Posted By: Obamaisagoodtalker @ 02/20/2008 5:34:49 PM

      Wish someone in the press corps was brave enough to ask him what his specific plans are on any major issue--guess it's easier to listen to motivational speeches

    • Posted By: LynnP @ 02/20/2008 2:55:23 PM

      Totally agree, witness the sickening Matt Lauer, Today show "interview" on Tuesday in which Matt appeared to be Obama's love child rather than a reporter. Well, he's really not a reporter, just another news reader.,

  • Posted By: Women Rule @ 02/20/2008 7:06:26 PM

    Can't get any dumber than who we have right now! I bet this author voted for Bush!

  • Posted By: AJ from KY @ 02/20/2008 7:05:58 PM

    Okay I don't get it. Obama is being attacked for all kinds of reasons. Lets see they are trying the no experience thing. From what I am hearing he has more Senate experience than she does. I am sorry but I don't count her experience as the First Lady. The only thing I kept hearing of that is that she constantly fought with Al Gore. I don't believe she has a right to fight with an elected Vice President. The only reason she was there was because of the good job Mr. Clinton did. And let me ask everybody, would Hillary have a chance to run if she wasn't married to President Clinton?

    Now people are attacking Obama for his speeches. He is a great speech giver. And come to think about it, most good leaders were. MLK, JFK, even Bill Clinton and many others. I am sorry but I do not call his rhetric with "word" plagerism. If Mr. Patrick is his friend and he stood up to defend Obama how can that be plagerism? If I told a friend of mine to use some of my words or he told me to use some of his there should not be a problem. Yes I do believe Obama should have gave credit during his speech, but thats between them. Critics of Obama can not find much on him so they grasp at whatever small mistake Obama makes.

    I understand some poeple are scared of change in this country. Or they are scared of what kind of change Obama will make. Ok lets forget about the change thing. Try thinking this: What do you think another Republican will do in office? McCain is already talking about keeping our troops in Iraq for a much longer time. What if,God forbid, another terrorist attack occurs? Will we be in Syria or Iran or even Saudi Arabia? This is getting dangerous. The US can not sustain all these fronts. If force was the answer how come it hasn't worked yet. I for one will not keep waiting on this little game the Republicans to figure out. I am not saying Democrats are better, but lets give a different party a chance.

    I don't care what Hillary says about she did not know she was giving Bush authorization for war. She is more intelligent than that. She has blood on her hands as far as I am concerned. I liked Hillary and Bill. But after the war I lost respect for her. She already says will not talk to our enemies. So what then, attack them. Thats the Bush and McCain way. So she is too scary for me. I would vote for Huckabee before her. And I don't want my wages garnished if I don't want health care. I will be proud to have our first female President one day, but not Hillary.

    Look, I understand Obama is not perfect. People do not know much about him because he rose so fast. But find me a better canditate and I will vote for him or her. I liked Edwards,but he dropped out. To tell you the truth I don't like politicians, but you have got to pick the lesser of the evils.

  • Posted By: lillea @ 02/20/2008 7:04:01 PM

    http://www.hyperhistory.net/apwh/bios/b4fcastro12am.htm
    Fidel Alejandro Castro Ruz (which is his whole name) was born on August 16th, 1926, in Mayari, Cuba. He was educated at the University of Havana in law, where he showed interest in and studied politics. He early devoted himself to helping the poor workers and peasants. His political ideas were formed throughout these years, and he joined several student political gangs.
    http://www.soc.duke.edu/~nvaldes/Cuba/fidel.htm
    His major academic interests were politics, sociology, history, and agriculture, but he received a law ???degree, which would later aid his political career. ????????????
    In 1948 he was elected president of the Law Students Association, which he represented at a Latin American University Students Congress in Colombia; the congress, openly anti-imperialist, coincided with a major civil war breaking out in Bogot???, in which Castro participated in skirmishes before leaving the country.

    Once in power, Castro proved to be a persuasive and moving speaker, and a man who had the affection and support of the population. He was the critical factor in defining the future direction of the revolution. The very popularity of the revolutionary regime unleashed a process of social radicalization, of which Castro became the major spokesman.

    His public speaking is the work of a craftsman who understands and uses well the psychology of Cubans. One author has called his ability a "rare oratorical ???virtuosity." He educates, instructs, explains, criticizes, persuades, attacks. His oratory attempts to inspire confidence, to stir to action, to move.??? There are two dimensions to his speeches: style and content.??? Gabriel Garc???a M???rquez, a close friend of Castro's has described his style as a devotion to the spoken word bordering on the magical. As he spends time speaking, his message gains clarity; but has a tendency to turn repetitive. The spoken word is clearly one of the most important instruments Castro has at his command, as demonstrated when he was released from prison in 1955, and the Fulgencio Batista government allowed him to publish but did not permit him to speak in public.

    He led the process of establishing new institutions. He introduced the method ???of mass mobilization, whatever the task may be. He also defined the pattern of ???concentrating resources away from the urban areas, and instilled in the ???population the belief that they have an inherent right to a job, to proper ???health care and education.


  • Posted By: RCDrouillard @ 02/20/2008 7:02:35 PM

    Mr. Samuelson I'm guessing you're in the "Senior" set that makes John or Hillary 's base. If you could slip out from behind your TV tray and change out of your pajamas and realize that for the first time in a very long time people are actually excited about this country.

    -- In regard to your concerns as with his tax breaks for people making under $75,000 I can understand people being upset especially those of you who got used to the unnecessary tax breaks for the upper 1%. Somehow you'll just need to learn how to get by with a little bit less it seems like perhaps the rest of us have learned to make do as well.

    -- Re: the $4000 annually to help with the cost of college I guess that perhaps some of those people who have become dependent on individuals that are not able to afford college might have to find a different pool of applicants to select from. It's not as if the money is being given away without any expectation or return. It seems to me that the WPA programs worked pretty well when we were faced with an economy that had striking similarities to what we're seeing right now.

    I guess I could go one further but to be quite frank your naïveté and closemindedness is starting to make me want to toss up a storm. Enjoy your retirement... ignoramus!

  • Posted By: micahjrose @ 02/20/2008 7:01:58 PM

    You are a shallow moron, sir. His healthcare initiative borrows from both sides of the aisle. He released most of his plans before Clinton, with more detail. Every politician must make proposals on how to fix the system, help individuals and businesses, and he is doing that. You're complaint is that he isn't making "innovative" Republican proposals. He calls for government, healthcare, and business transparanency, all of which lower costs and make taxation more efficient.

  • Posted By: decker02 @ 02/20/2008 6:59:54 PM

    So, essentially, all the author is saying is what Fmr. Pres. Clinton said two months ago - Obama is a "roll of the dice." Apparently, considering the other avaiable candidates, America is ready to make that roll. Too bad Hillary and too bad Mr. Samuelson; America wants CHANGE. If you never build the courage to take a leap of faith, then nothing will ever really change. I guess 230 years ago Mr. Samuelson, and those like him, would have been stalwart Torries defending the actions of the British Monarchy. Way to go people . . .

  • Posted By: Scopeless @ 02/20/2008 6:05:08 PM

    I don't feel like your criticisms are vaild. I feel like that by ending billions of spending on a war would do well to put money into the budget. Hillary Clinton is just as neoconservative as Dick Cheney and supports several of those ideals, i.e. a middle eastern war to promote "democracy" and using the U.S. military to police the world. She comes from the same societies that created these political ideologies. THIS IS THE CHANGE BARAK IS TALKING ABOUT. Our political system has been hijacked, and with it, our entire nation. By spending money on something other than the war, he will have more than enough to implement a majority of these programs. I'm not going to pretend like all of them will make it through both houses, though.

    • Posted By: bbeans @ 02/20/2008 6:59:24 PM

      If they don't make it through both houses then it's up to us, 'We The People' to go to polls and vote out of office the son of guns that are standing in the way. This is our country, your's and mines. We shouldn't be afraid of Washington. The founding fathers wrote the constitution specifically so that they'd be afraid of us. It's time we started voting our good conscience, stuff those ballot boxes and made sure our message gets heard always, loud and clear - ENOUGH!. Loved your comment.

  • Posted By: gerney @ 02/20/2008 6:59:07 PM

    There is no Obama Delusion. You, and others like you, are blinded by fear and unable to accept the changes in American Politics.

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