The Obama Delusion

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  • Posted By: lillea @ 02/20/2008 2:48:42 PM

    More of the same includes safety from terrorist attacks. We have been kept safe for the last 7 years from terrorist attacks. And don't think they didn't try. Our current president isn't much of a speech maker, but by gosh, he let the terrorists know that they don't dare attack us again. How many citizens of other countries around the world can make that claim??????????

    • Posted By: natoma77 @ 02/20/2008 2:57:32 PM

      Just so you know, after the 1993 world trade center bombing, we weren't attacked for 8 years. Would you say that that was the success of the Clinton Administration and the failing of the Bush Administration for letting us get hit on 9/11?

      Come on now, enough with the tortured logic please.

  • Posted By: celius @ 02/20/2008 2:57:26 PM

    The real powers that be behind the Bush Administration and the policies of the last 7 years (corporate and industrial America which has benefitted financially from the War in Iraq/Record Oil Profits) have made enough money in the past two Presidential Adminsitrations (at the expense of the America taxpayer) to carry them over through a few Democratic Administrations.............Give Mr. Obama a chance to give the average working class American some hope for their future...............

  • Posted By: ObamaSpecifics @ 02/20/2008 2:57:09 PM

    This sums it up right here:

    http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/sarahramey/gGCPbv

  • Posted By: vertfleche @ 02/20/2008 2:11:38 PM

    What a sourpuss this Robert Samuelson is.

    Dare to believe that, as a nation and as a culture, we can CHANGE our country for the better, Mr. Samuelson. That's what Obama represents. That what this nation has represented at various times since its founding. Without the belief that we can be better - without that desire - we will be mired in the shallow partisanship that the media/poltical elite tell us is unavoidable. It's not unavoidable. And the first step in changing it is to cast off our cynicism and think beyond our box.

    • Posted By: LuLuBelle @ 02/20/2008 2:57:05 PM

      Claiming that you will change things and being able to actually DO it are two different things. If he gets elected how disappointed will you be that he delivers nothing that he has promised? Don't you get it yet? It is all just a feel-good speach, not something he can actually achieve!

  • Posted By: rs18 @ 02/20/2008 1:46:44 PM

    Wow! Reading these comments of such hate and disgust for Clinton and McCain from the Obama supporters. Makes me start to question the inspirational message of the Obama platform. These are two people that have served in the public sector and this country as Americans for decades. Are the Obama supporters saying now they are both too old to be useful to this country? I must question the message that Obama is inspiring the nation to come together. So far I am seeing nothing but more division and more hate.

    • Posted By: montacque @ 02/20/2008 2:56:49 PM

      I think you're being a little selective in the posts that you're reading. Clinton supporters have been extremely nasty as well. On the whole, however, I believe that both Obama and Clinton supporters are good people and would be foolish not to support the Decmocratic nominee, whoever it may be..

  • Posted By: byrdlegs @ 02/20/2008 2:56:40 PM

    Dont know what happened to my first post, but I will try once again. Barack does appear to be a tad nieve by wanting to do too many things, but you can't help but to be inspired and want to get in on the action. If he doesn't get you excited with his speaking engagements, you may want to check yourself into the morgue.

    Does America really need more of the same? Didn't you get your fill these last 7+ years? Why would anyone want to vote into office the same people who were responsible for us being in this predictament in the first place. Besides, I reallya can't get myself to vote for a person (Hillary) that voted for the war in IRAQ and then tries to weasel herself out of it by compounding the situation with more lies. It reminds me too much of the Clintons' in the White House 1992-2000 and makes the hair on my neck stand up. ...And the other alternative is BombBomb McCain. Dang! His party doesn't even like him, why should I? McCain was for against the taxcuts before he was for them. Now that he is a shoe-in for the party nominee, he is now pandering on the torture issue. He as against torture, but now he doesn't want to tie the hands of the CIA in dealing with terrorists. BombBomb flips more than the pancake maker at I-HOP....Brother Obama will tear him apart.

    You remember the old saying, insanity is " Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results." No thanks Mr Samuelson, Barack got my primary vote and will so again in the general election.

  • Posted By: pixiemom912 @ 02/20/2008 2:56:31 PM

    Thank you for speaking frankly about what we in Texas see, Mr Obama is mesmerizing the media and some of our hardest workers who so desperatley want someone to believe in, someone that can see the average american can not carry the Nation any longer our backs are broken, we've toiled for big businesses and greedy owners so they can own two or three homes while we fight to save our one humble abodes, our pay is inappropriate our taxes, medicaid, medicare . we have become so disallusioned that it is hard to fight the good fight any longer.

  • Posted By: nevilS @ 02/20/2008 2:56:14 PM

    Obama is an unknown quantity and apparently a darling of the media, at least for now. There should have been more commentary like this one from Mr. Samuelson in the media. But sadly, it may be too late to intelligently scrutinize Obama's history and policies with such intensity that we can properly compare him with Clinton and McCain. Experience tells us that we should never buy stocks or a house on emotion (or rhetoric), and the same is true for electing a President of the United States. Experience does matter. We have to question why Obama won't indulge in more spirited, substantive debates with Clinton on the issues and how he plans to make the changes he speaks so eloquently of.

  • Posted By: stellahoss @ 02/20/2008 2:56:07 PM

    Yet again someone else has missed the point, the objective, and the goal of Obama and his campaign. Let's assume you're right about it all being hopeful rhetoric, that his policies are weak, unrealistic and all to similar to Hillary's. I dare anyone to argue that whoever of the three remaining candidates wins the presidency could possibly due more harm to our country in any area than G.W. and his cronies. Bueller, Bueller, anyone, anyone? That being said, how bad can it really be that this man with so little experience is lifting the nations spirits, instilling pride, and giving hope to a new generation as they begin to believe in their country again, if for the first time ever. (uh-oh, someone better throw me in the stockade with Michelle obama for making that unpatriotic remark.) For years we've all been watching the same ole politicians say the same ole things, then getting elected and seeing very little change and none of their promises and policy stances come to fruition. So whether or not President Obamas policy promises hold true or not, real change has already begun in America. People all over the country are going to work smiling and hopeful. Something this simple (even on a small scale) can cause them to treat their family a little better, do a little bit better job at work, put in a lttle more effort in becoming a better citizen and person. All the while the country is more engaged in political discussions now more than ever. So, Mr. Newsweek journalist, I don't know which parent beat you, or what girl broke your heart , or if you you came into this world predisposed as pescimistic sinical critic, but you've missed the point.

  • Posted By: Calvin67 @ 02/20/2008 2:26:49 PM

    I wonder how much the Clintons paid, influenced, or coerced this guy to write this. Everything he says in here can be applied to all the candidates, with the major difference being that Senator Obama has been true to his word and his instincts (Voting No to authorize the Iraq War as an example).

    Again, frightening to see how much power and influence the Clinton's have in getting this man to write this load of BS; this is really just his thoughts and opinions and not supported by any kind of factual statements or evidence what so ever. I hope the guilt of compromising his ethics will forever haunt him as a journalist, but then again, using the term ethics with any Clinton Supporter is really an Oxymoron!!!!

    • Posted By: Lorretta @ 02/20/2008 2:56:05 PM

      How idiotic to imply that the Clintons paid or coerced this journalist. You must have gotten these tactics from the Republicans- make a wild accusation with no base.

    • Posted By: kymberly @ 02/20/2008 2:42:32 PM

      Actually, Obama didn't vote no to authorize the Iraq war because he wasn't in the Senate. I would hope a supporter would be able to know the facts about their candidate. However, if Senator Obama did want to bring an end to the Iraq war I wonder why he voted to fund it over and over again. Actually, if you go to votesmart.org you'll find that Sen. Obama has a nearly identical record to Sen. Clinton.

      Wake up America! We need solutions, we need a leader who has real experience, one that stands with working people and can get it done! Sen. Obama is a fantastic orator but lacks the reality factor - how do we make it happen? Wishing won't make it so.

      Needless to say, what all of these fanatics are forgetting is the Democrats that have real reservations about supporting Barack. I've never voted for a republican but if he's the nominee, I'm thinking it over.

      • Posted By: Calvin67 @ 02/20/2008 2:51:48 PM

        Amazing how inaccurate you are on "ALL" of your points. Do you not think people go back and check these things??? That's the problem with a Hillary Supporter, they don't take the time to look, and because they don't, they they think we don't, amazing. It's refreshing to see that others are seeing this as the voter turn outs has indicated. By the way, if you do look up some real facts in the future, try doing a search on Clinton Scandals, that should keep you busy for a few days, so that you can't post your factless rebuttals!!!

    • Posted By: Shadoe01 @ 02/20/2008 2:34:06 PM

      He did not vote against the Iraq war - he did what he always does, not vote at all!

      • Posted By: Calvin67 @ 02/20/2008 2:41:36 PM

        At least if you're going to post a reply, then get your facts straight. Not to do so, just shows how dumb and ignorant you are; or was that actually your intent to show how dumb and ignorant you are? If it was, then good job!

  • Posted By: natoma77 @ 02/20/2008 2:56:04 PM

    The people here saying "right on" are really a reflection of the kind of politics that we've been raised with. The "No, we can't do it" politics that says that it's too hard and too much work to succeed.

    Seriously, this is a big reason why Obama is just what we need today. He's someone who's willing to push us beyond our current limitations and expectations and is trying to shoot for the moon.

    You were probably someone in the 1960s who would've derided JFK as being naive, idealistic, and just another politician for saying we should reach for the stars. You have to start somewhere, and that's something I believe Obama has the best chance at.

    If I want a politician who will not try, I'll go with status quo like Hillary or McCain. If I want a politician who at the very least will try, with sincerity, even if he fails, I'll go with Obama. He reaches for the best in us, not the cynical in us. And that is what we need after 8 failed years of President Bush.

  • Posted By: LENA_K @ 02/20/2008 2:56:02 PM

    Comment: HA!
    You gave it a goold old college try, but it didn't make the cut.

    Hey, Samuelson, want to tell me why Hillary continues to sponsor international companies that take advantage of children in developing nations by cashing in on "aid" sales?

    Or perhaps you can explain to everyone how Bill sold LITERS of hiv infected blood to Canada; a move that resulted in HUNDREDS of deaths up here.

    You know what? The list goes on and on and on.

    Obama may have some faults. (he has even admitted it). After all, if he were to come up with abstract new policies NO ONE would buy them. Everyone would write him off. He's trying to influence change through little changes; minor details that have substantial impacts on the lives of American citizens.

    Grow up. America needs him and not Hillary.

  • Posted By: Larry in Ga @ 02/20/2008 1:55:39 PM

    This argument leaves out the most important reason that I am drawn to Obama, good judgement. Yes, in the case of the Iraq war, Hillary could not stand up and oppose the popular view-point of the day. She caved and went along with an action that will haunt and hurt this country for 2 generations. That is not leadership. We don't need a well packaged stack of papers showing where every dollar comes and goes. People in this country are hungry for leadership today. A good leader will assemble the experts in the appropriate fields, give them their marching orders, measure their suggestions and make valued choices. Leadership is not found in the stack of papers that we like to compare to the other candidate's stack. Pick your leader my any means you desire and listening to the heart is just as good as reading position papers. It might be a better way.

    • Posted By: norpoul @ 02/20/2008 2:55:53 PM

      Apparently, you are not well informed on Obama's remarks regarding the Iraq war.
      First, in 2002 he gave a speech (while a member of the Illinois State Senate) saying
      he was against the war. This speech was posted on his web site and referenced
      numerous times by him.
      When the war began in 2003, it was reportedly popular and the 2002 speech was
      removed from the web site.
      In 2004, with the war still popular, and while running for the U.S. Senate, he was
      questioned as to his 2002 decisiona against the war. He replied that he wasn't
      in the U.S. Senate at the time and didn't have the intelligence information or
      briefings so DIDN'T KNOW HOW HE'D HAVE VOTED.
      After election to the U.S. Senate and as the war became unpopular, the 2002
      speech was put back up on his web site and he started his boasting about
      always being against the war. In his presidential campaigning, he continued
      to remind everyone over and over again about his position in 2002. Why the
      media has given him a free pass on this inconsistancy is hard to believe.
      People like you give him credit for having the foresight to condemn the war
      yet don't like to face up to the fact that he made a decision without knowing
      any of the background or facts. Will he as president continue to make
      critical decisions based on his hunches?

  • Posted By: albertgorejr @ 02/20/2008 2:41:46 PM

    Beware Welfare!

    Vote for Clinton.

  • Posted By: mrs_37WA @ 02/20/2008 2:55:26 PM

    What a silly article!

  • Posted By: izzyinAZ @ 02/20/2008 2:54:11 PM

    I found this article to be more comical than informational. As such, I felt the need to write the followin letter to the letter (if it gets to him)...

    Mr. Samuelson,

    I hope this email reaches your desk, however, I suspect it will go to some generic email ID or intern responsible for collecting these types of emails.

    I read your Newsweek article and found it quite humorous. The whole nature of the article seemed very hypocritical and, strangely, similar to the misinformation and misrepresentations that have come out of the Clinton campaign. It makes me wonder who is influencing your writing.... but of course we don't want to talk about that.

    I find your analysis to be very immature, especially for somebody that graduated from Harvard. Your arguments are very one sided and side step the over all picture. Every candidate makes promises and establishes a platform that would be ideal. As in any business, the struggle is to get those ideas implemented as best as possible. The difference between Obama and Clinton is that 1) Obama is able to motivate regular Americans, as well as, elected officials; 2) Obama genuinely believes we can work in a productive manner to implement ideas, whereas, Clinton makes similar promises and plans to further her policial resume; and 3) Obama seems to be aware that he alone cannot make things happen but rather needs to include knowledgable individuals in the decisions making process... I'm not sure Clinton is open to suggestions. What was disturbing about your article were the continuous fallacies in your arguments... misrepresenting positions, ignoring the full picture, avoiding similar issues in all other campaigns. It makes me wonder what your agenda is. Or, perhaps this is just proof that there are others of us out here who made a great decision to spend far less on college but received equivalent or better education.

    Regards,
    Izzy in Arizona

  • Posted By: abced @ 02/20/2008 10:54:57 AM

    I applaud your article.....I don't understand what is happening. Did you see Chris Matthews last night...he was brilliant when he asked a senator from Texas to list Obama's legislative accomplishments.......and he got a "deer in the headlights" look.......... The senator was dumb-founded and couldn't respond.......
    I thought I'd see that clip all over the media today and it has apparently been buried...........it's not even on "You-tube."
    Who is Obama?? What are his accomplishments?
    And what about religion........Mitt Romney was pounded for being a Mormon, and Huckabee for being an evangelical Christian...............but what about Obama?? Is he Christian, Muslim?? Why is he immune from the typical scrutiny?? Why is he the teflon man?

    So now our choices are Billary Clinton, McCain (100 years war in Iraq), and Obama (Door # 3)- who sounds inspiring but what is really behind the door??

    These are scary choices.

    I am concerned about our future in America.

    • Posted By: sirpendragon2007 @ 02/20/2008 2:53:51 PM

      it sure will be refreshing when people with your limited intellegence are to feeble to vote......

  • Posted By: izzyinAZ @ 02/20/2008 2:53:26 PM

    I found Mr. Samuelson's article to more comical than informational. As such, I felt the need to send him the following email...

    Mr. Samuelson,

    I hope this email reaches your desk, however, I suspect it will go to some generic email ID or intern responsible for collecting these types of emails.

    I read your Newsweek article and found it quite humorous. The whole nature of the article seemed very hypocritical and, strangely, similar to the misinformation and misrepresentations that have come out of the Clinton campaign. It makes me wonder who is influencing your writing.... but of course we don't want to talk about that.

    I find your analysis to be very immature, especially for somebody that graduated from Harvard. Your arguments are very one sided and side step the over all picture. Every candidate makes promises and establishes a platform that would be ideal. As in any business, the struggle is to get those ideas implemented as best as possible. The difference between Obama and Clinton is that 1) Obama is able to motivate regular Americans, as well as, elected officials; 2) Obama genuinely believes we can work in a productive manner to implement ideas, whereas, Clinton makes similar promises and plans to further her policial resume; and 3) Obama seems to be aware that he alone cannot make things happen but rather needs to include knowledgable individuals in the decisions making process... I'm not sure Clinton is open to suggestions. What was disturbing about your article were the continuous fallacies in your arguments... misrepresenting positions, ignoring the full picture, avoiding similar issues in all other campaigns. It makes me wonder what your agenda is. Or, perhaps this is just proof that there are others of us out here who made a great decision to spend far less on college but received equivalent or better education.

    Regards,
    Izzy in Arizona

  • Posted By: Jdrew1963 @ 02/20/2008 2:53:26 PM

    The corporate run media either does not understand or perhaps they do understand what this movement for change is all about. It is not about Obama as much as it is about the downright disgust that the American people feel about the government, particularly Bush, and both houses of congress. The lies, deceit and greed perpetrated over the last 28 years has finally come to a head. The people are no longer interested in being misled by politicians with the help of the American media (who gave the Bush Administration a free pass fregarding 911, Iraq, Abromoff, Cheney's crimes and Bush's total incompetence. The people have awaken so despite the efforts to divide and conquer, the media corporate media's irrellevance is long overdue. This movement is about ending business as usual. It's about time.

  • Posted By: hyperfitz @ 02/20/2008 2:53:26 PM

    First: To suggest that Obama is not going to be able to effectively lead, at this stage in history, is rather unobservant.

    Second: Obama is proposing several specific things that are going to save me from sinking.

    Third, and most importantly: Clinton and McCain have already been a gigantic disappointment. A basic premise of this article is that, because everyone else has been a disappointment, therefore Obama will be too. Pessimistic reasoning is insidious: because everyone has disappointed so much, we should therefore start shooting for 28 years of Bush and Clinton rule. Never mind that it is the vary leadership that we have been so disappointed with.

    Mr. Samuelson, you don???t know what is going to happen.

    Obama deserves his chance.

    As an end note, just so I don???t get accused of not being able to do math:

    Bush sr. 4 years

    Clinton Mr. 8 years

    Bush jr. 8 years

    Clinton Mrs. Likely 2 terms
    __________________________

    28 years

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