The Obama Delusion

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  • Posted By: microtek @ 02/20/2008 1:53:06 PM

    USA is going down with OBAMA as President.

    GOD BLESS AMERICA

  • Posted By: Shoosh @ 02/20/2008 1:53:00 PM

    Is Someone Understand Obama Speeches?

    1. In his speech he is saying; if his promises will not fulfilled the public need to blame the senate and the congress. (To me he is saying I am fooling you if you buy it don???t blame me, blame the senate and the congress).
    2. In every single speech he is saying to the crowd that they will need to make a lot of sacrifices; this is tells me that he will increase the taxes on business owner to the point that the businesses will not be able to survive unless they will transfer their losses to the consumer. As such the inflation will be humongous, all the produce will increase in price, and the only people who will suffer is the low middle class, and the middle class.
    Hillary needs to challenge his speeches. I believe that most of his crowd does not understand intelligent speech. Some one needs to interpreter his speech in face-to-face debate, on TV, when his crowd watching or listening.

  • Posted By: joneselliott23 @ 02/20/2008 1:52:53 PM

    The great thing about America is everybody gets to have an oppinion. It is time for a change and to give an oppurtunity to those who have a Idea of that change. Words are words and I beleive that Obama will try to make those words come true. Washington is a machine that need that change in the worst way. Looking forward to that change very soon.

  • Posted By: skimcpip @ 02/20/2008 1:52:50 PM

    Your article is disingenuous. You write:

    "[Obama's proposals] so similar to many Clinton proposals that her campaign put out a news release accusing Obama of plagiarizing. "

    That is a clear fallacy. Clinton's campaign accused Obama of plagiarizing campaign speech of Deval Patrick, not Clinton's policies. What's your agenda?

  • Posted By: s2richard @ 02/20/2008 1:31:52 PM

    Just say simply I am Mrs Clinton's supporter and this is why I support her as a person. But do not expect other people to put you in expert position who is qualify to know what is best for the country and which candidate we ought to vote for. However, if I were you I would support the winning party....OBAMA I think he is the solution for our problems.

    • Posted By: Fefeknows @ 02/20/2008 1:52:46 PM

      The one-drop rule is an historical colloquial term in the United States that holds that a person with any trace of sub-Saharan ancestry (however small or invisible) cannot be considered white[1] and so unless the person has an alternative non-white ancestry that he or she can claim, such as Native American, Asian, Arab, Australian aboriginal, the person must be considered black.

      This notion of invisible/intangible membership in a "racial" group has seldom been applied to people of Native American ancestry (see Race in the United States for details). The concept has been largely applied to those of black African ancestry. --Wikipedia


  • Posted By: MD07 @ 02/20/2008 12:58:39 PM

    Who's the author? Is he a Hillary supporter? This time NO ONE can stop Obama this time. His message or tone has deeply impacted his supporters and this movement is not going to change. I think this kind of thing happens once in a 100 years.....He is going to win the nomination and White House.

    The critics comments about his speech, plagarism or rhetoric is too late. I think the way he unites people, the way he is running his campaign and fund raising, plus winning against the "Clintons" as an underdog African American candidate is just amazing. It has changed even conservative whites like me to respect this guy beyond the race or experience.

    • Posted By: reginanation @ 02/20/2008 1:52:45 PM

      worse.......Watch out folks, here come the Republicans. Get ready, our terror alerts will be raised and the SCARE tactiics will begin.

  • Posted By: Shoosh @ 02/20/2008 1:52:24 PM

    Is Someone Understand Obama Speeches?

    1. In his speech he is saying; if his promises will not fulfilled the public need to blame the senate and the congress. (To me he is saying I am fooling you if you buy it don???t blame me, blame the senate and the congress).
    2. In every single speech he is saying to the crowd that they will need to make a lot of sacrifices; this is tells me that he will increase the taxes on business owner to the point that the businesses will not be able to survive unless they will transfer their losses to the consumer. As such the inflation will be humongous, all the produce will increase in price, and the only people who will suffer is the low middle class, and the middle class.
    Hillary needs to challenge his speeches. I believe that most of his crowd does not understand intelligent speech. Some one needs to interpreter his speech in face-to-face debate, on TV, when his crowd watching or listening.

  • Posted By: dsaunier @ 02/20/2008 1:51:26 PM

    Mr. Samuelson is woefully missing the point. Barack Obama is not running on the promise of the most innovative policies. His theme of change is about a different way of doing business in the Oval Office. It is about creating transparency in the political process, so that citizens can see what the discussions are on matters of importance to them. To see who stands where on those issues. And to attack issues with critical thought, not petty or partisan bickering. His statement that he would negotiate with Iran, among others, without precondition, is evidence of this. While some call this naive, Obama knows that to resolve conflict, you need to sit down with your friends and your enemies. He and Hillary Clinton both freely admit that their policies are quite similar. The thing that is so exciting about Obama--that many want to slough off as style over substance--is that his style and approach are the very qualities that give him a fighting chance of getting anything done in Washington and around the world.

  • Posted By: number40one @ 02/20/2008 1:51:12 PM

    I don't care how the saying goes: We've been dealing with "the devil we know" for quite some time now and have we been satisfied?

    All politicians use rhetoric and promises. Singling out Brack Obama's rhetoric just because it sounds better to the majority is disingenuous.

    Please, somebody lay out Hillary's record of success. You think she's going to bring Universal Health Care to the nation? She does have a track record that department which people seem to forget: failure. In fact, that failure has been labeled by history as one of the biggest blunders of the first Clinton administration.

    Looking for Obama accomplishments? Start with $100 million in tax cuts for the families of Illinois while he was in the state legislature.

    A vote for Hillary Clinton is a vote to continue an already-20-year Bush/Clinton Dynasty. And we bluster at the "presidency" of Vladimir Putin...

  • Posted By: richtrini @ 02/20/2008 1:51:03 PM

    I also agree on most points of your article. Unfortunately, he has to say those things else be accused of lacking substance. Its what the people want to hear. However, I disagree that Clinton or McCain are any better because they are known entity. As for McCain, he is saying a lot to placate the so-called Republican base but once he gets into office, I think he will reverse on many of those positions. The big problem I have with McCain is that he will continue many Bush policies that I believe have hurt this country and left it more vulnerable. Clinton on the other hand is a polarizing figure and I doubt she can win up against McCain.

    No offense, but anyone can be President. We have shown that with a former drug and alchohol addict who never succeeded in business and was a C student. What is necessary is surrounding yourself with great and smart people. Obama has done this already. I think he will continue to do this.

    Finally, people need to understand how limited Presidential power is under our Constitution. This is a gray area (especially with Bush), but for the most part, the President enforces the law. That is his job. He can suggest things and put forth an agenda, but it is up to our REAL democratically elected representitives in Congress to do OUR will, not the President's will. (I say REAL because contrary to popular belief, the President is not directly elected by the people not because of the past election craziness).

  • Posted By: Discoveringagreatleader @ 02/20/2008 1:50:46 PM

    The truth is that whoever enters the white house next year they have a lot of work to do. This country is going down a path that noone thought we would go down. We have a war in iraq an afganistan, we have huge economic problems at home with folks losing their houses and the deficit just keeps going up. The value of the dollar is going down so much that we have models demanding to be paid in foreign money. I see no ending to the rise in gas prices. How will our economy ever recover from all this? I have visited both Barack and Hillary's website trying to find details on what their stance is on the issues we are facing today, and unfortunately all I read is about how I want to do this and that. I don't see any real plans for solving these problems. I am one of these folks that are labeled an independent. I basically pick who I like and who I think is more qualified for working on the problems we have before us. I have not been that impressed with Barack but I try to give him the benefit of the doubt. I prefer to vote for Hillary because I do remember how good this country was under her husband, Bill. I support her drive for a universal health care system, everyone should be able to get insurance. One of the main problems we have with the health care system is all of the uninsured folks that come in needing help. I know of at least two cases where the individuals health bill was just written off by the hospital because they had no health care insurance or way to pay for the bill. In the end I am paying for their health care already since I have insurance. Every year I see my payments go up for my insurance and at some point you need to ask yourself enough is enough. We need to elect someone with experience not just wishes for lolipops and candy canes. My vote is for Hillary, if she doesn't win the democrate electionthen I hope that Barack and John can come up with some feasible ideas and solutions for our county. Not just great speaches and harping for change, we need solutions.

  • Posted By: richtrini @ 02/20/2008 1:50:41 PM

    I also agree on most points of your article. Unfortunately, he has to say those things else be accused of lacking substance. Its what the people want to hear. However, I disagree that Clinton or McCain are any better because they are known entity. As for McCain, he is saying a lot to placate the so-called Republican base but once he gets into office, I think he will reverse on many of those positions. The big problem I have with McCain is that he will continue many Bush policies that I believe have hurt this country and left it more vulnerable. Clinton on the other hand is a polarizing figure and I doubt she can win up against McCain.

    No offense, but anyone can be President. We have shown that with a former drug and alchohol addict who never succeeded in business and was a C student. What is necessary is surrounding yourself with great and smart people. Obama has done this already. I think he will continue to do this.

    Finally, people need to understand how limited Presidential power is under our Constitution. This is a gray area (especially with Bush), but for the most part, the President enforces the law. That is his job. He can suggest things and put forth an agenda, but it is up to our REAL democratically elected representitives in Congress to do OUR will, not the President's will. (I say REAL because contrary to popular belief, the President is not directly elected by the people not because of the past election craziness).

  • Posted By: dano909 @ 02/20/2008 1:50:34 PM

    You made no mention of the war in Iraq. Obama says out in 90 days. Clinton says a withdrawal over a year or two? Getting us out of Iraq will add billions to our own economy to help solve many of the issues you discussed in your article. Of course, Obama's policy will also spare many young American lives and perhaps begin to restore the US credibility on the international stage.

  • Posted By: jtpmol @ 02/20/2008 1:49:56 PM

    I think this is a well written piece. He is promising the moon with ZERO thought of how to PAY for the promises. That is NOT the realism and truth telling he speaks of. What really concerns me is that I think he truly believes that he can do all that he says. How naive is this guy?

    The problem I have with this piece is the TIMING. I think that you are taking a shot at being the first to start to turn the tide of journalism on Obama now that he will most likely get the nomination. I find it disingenuous. Classic devil's advocate after the media spends a year building this guy into the Bono of Presidential Politics. I mean, did you JUST NOW figure Obama out?? You're like a republican admitting in 2006 that George Bush might not have it together. The damage is done, pal. Obama will most likely get the nomination, and fall flat on his smiling face once he becomes president. In large part due to the media's penchant for building a star and then taking him down for extneded fun and ratings when it's TOO LATE to do anything about the real version of Obama. That coupled with an electorate so desparate for a new direction they will follow the Pied Piper that is Barack Obama will lead us to the second coming of Jimmy Carter. Only this time, things are far more desparate and in need of a strong president. It's a crying shame. A chance for real leadership and change, and it's going to get wasted on a motivational speaker. Ugh.

  • Posted By: wordfest @ 02/20/2008 1:49:22 PM

    Robert, Robert, Robert stop! You have been around Washington and the news media way too long. You are just not getting it. We are so sick and tired of the Bushes, Clintons (who have more baggage that can fill a steamer trunk) and the rest of their ilk. They go to Washington promising their constituents they???ll fight the good fight, but end up in bed, like the others???with the lobbyists. Their prime goal is to stay in office rather than for the good of the American people and the rest of the world. And you better start listening to the other 6 billion folks if you want to win this war on terrorism. The arrogance that permeates the government and the news media is enough to take your breathe away. The other side of the coin is the American people better get with the program; don???t depend on the government to take care of you completely, you have to do your fair share. You can start by shedding a few pounds by getting off that sofa and do some volunteer work???any kind???and stop listening to these experts who want to tell us the ???real??? truth. Enter Your Comment

  • Posted By: waltermy @ 02/20/2008 1:49:12 PM

    Obama doesn't have much in the way of accomplishments. He has only been in the senate for two years. Samuelson is dead on that Obama offers nothing of substance. Maybe some of you folks are silly enough to vote for change for change sake, but I would suggest you seriously look at Obama's policies in detail as Samuelson has done. The economics of Obama's policies simply do not work. How can you not see that? Can't you do basic math?

  • Posted By: bbfan2 @ 02/20/2008 1:48:51 PM

    The only thing delusional was the media declaring for months and months Hillary the "inevitable" candidate. The media attacked Obama for months on end and dismissed him as insignificant in the race...until voters actually went out and voted. The Republicans and Hillary supporters are trying to desperately paint him as a black shell with no substance. I didn't know empty, no-brain shells can graduate with honors from Harvard Law school as Obama did. He left his fancy high paying job at an international business firm to work in the inner cities of Chicago, organizing, helping the jobless find jobs, putting together job training programs, working to protect civil liberties. He's held more elected positions than Hillary, serving 8 years in the IL Senate, where he worked to expand health care in IL and provided tax relief to the working class. He was then was elected to the US Senate. Wow, the guy is really a lazy bum who never worked hard or won an election on substance in his lfe. (sarcasm).

  • Posted By: dsaunier @ 02/20/2008 1:48:42 PM

    Mr. Samuelson is woefully missing the point. Barack Obama is not running on the promise of the most innovative policies. His theme of change is about a different way of doing business in the Oval Office. It is about creating transparency in the political process, so that citizens can see what the discussions are on matters of importance to them. To see who stands where on those issues. And to attack issues with critical thought, not petty or partisan bickering. His statement that he would negotiate with Iran, among others, without precondition, is evidence of this. While some call this naive, Obama knows that to resolve conflict, you need to sit down with your friends and your enemies. He and Hillary Clinton both freely admit that their policies are quite similar. The thing that is so exciting about Obama--that many want to slough off as style over substance--is that his style and approach are the very qualities that give him a fighting chance of getting anything done in Washington and around the world.

  • Posted By: zeppt @ 02/20/2008 1:48:41 PM

    Well, if what the author says is true, then the majority who are voting for Mr. Obama are dumber than doornails..... I, for one, would rather have the Obama rhetoric than the "stale" Clinton or McCain oldies in office. So, power to The Obama campaign and the American people with democracy as our ally.

  • Posted By: Tampa Tom @ 02/20/2008 1:48:13 PM

    Sounds like you just want more of the same. Hey, maybe it's not too late to amend the constitution so we can vote for George Bush again...

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