The Obama Delusion

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  • Posted By: Kellyville @ 02/20/2008 1:10:59 PM

    You must be a very sad person. I'm sorry for you. Sorry that you can't see what Senator Obama bring to this wonderful country and indeed to the world. We can raise our heads proudly again and offer the world a beacon of hope again. Senator Obama is an inspiration, a leader who can make us great again. A leader who can offer solutiions not only for our problems but for our sick mind set of invading those who don't agree with us, those who have every right to be different, goveren different, think different. I wish that I had the media at my disposal as you do.

  • Posted By: CalexanderJ @ 02/20/2008 1:10:18 PM

    The question isn't whether Barack is perfect it's whether he's the best candidate available, which I believe he is. Obama's never claimed to have original ideas, he's the first to admit that he shares very similar positions to Senator Clinton, who also has good ideas, however as he is fond of saying, Washington is where good ideas go to die. The change that he is trying to implement is to inspire the American people and use transparency to override special interests, to get some these good ideas enacted into law. I think it's a huge deal that he hasn't taken any lobbyist or special interest money, and seeks to curb their influence, that's a significant change. While as you mention it's unlike he gets his full package passed, I think he'll have the political capital to do more than Senator Clinton would and certainly John McCain who just wants more of the same. Futher his positions on the war and foreign policy represent an enormous change from the current administration.

    On Social Security, nobody's talking about social security (although they probably should) so holding Barack to a higher standard, when our other two choices are in the same boat doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.

  • Posted By: R1ck @ 02/20/2008 1:10:08 PM

    albertgorejr wrote:

    Comment: No experience. - He has a much as Hillary
    No pride in his muslim heritage. - He's Christian. Didn't get the memo, huh?
    No plan. - Hillary says his plan copies hers. Which is it?
    No ass. - I haven't looked. Not my thing.
    Vote No to Obama - Vote NO to rhetoric!
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    The Article:

    Talking about rhetoric?! Your entire piece is nothing more than huff and hype. Its hard to believe that even you could believe that what you wrote was objective. It was nothing more than spin. You are clearly a closet hillary supporter. That's okay, I was a Hillary supporter too, that is until people like you began your attemps to usurp the process a' la the jedi mind trick: "change is bad; Obama is bad; etc. Going forward, it would serve you well to announce your affiliations so as to avoid looking deceptive as you do now.

  • Posted By: lillea @ 02/20/2008 1:09:52 PM

    Barack Obama is just another Jim Jones. He has the same characteristics.....and this is a very serious concern. I have seen this same leadership ability in kids who had to become "street smart." Looking at his teen years, he had to develope this same abiltiy. It's a special ability to pull people unknowingly from their better judgement and follow the wrong crowd. These people usually are exposed from within their peers. Hopefulyy he will be exposed before Nov.

  • Posted By: emmarcee @ 02/20/2008 1:09:50 PM

    OK, do you see the patter, as we always been trying to scream out loud: Media is playing the game , for Mccaine: They pushed up Barack Husein Obaama (666) and now trying to bring him down before the general election. If they knew these facts why did n't they come up with this before Obama made such headway already, enough to topple Hillary? They created this hysteria and now trying to pour water over the fire.

  • Posted By: gmancometh @ 02/20/2008 1:09:45 PM

    i see more people are drinking the kool aid. WAKE UP!!! are you really ready to turn this country over to a guy who has been all talk and no action?? i live in illinois and voted for the guy in the state and us senate races. thus far, he is the same as all the others. i will take the eight years to a shot in the dark!! are country is in peril.....this is no time for OJT!!! did you people read this article?? weirdorama!!!

  • Posted By: 52sws66 @ 02/20/2008 1:09:22 PM

    How can we justify holding Mr. Obama to a "higher standard"? Can we not simply accept that, even though his solutions and policies may be similar to Mrs Clinton's (which is not entirely accurate),his advantage lies in being more eloquent and infinitely more "likable"? Can we not accept the "victory" that the "symbolism of his life story" implies? Is there not abendant "progress" simply evident in his prominence, popularity and obvious ability?

  • Posted By: jrossie @ 02/20/2008 1:09:07 PM

    Look... The difference is simple. True, McCain and Hillary are known quanties. We know they are not capable of getting anything done. Orgnial ideas are not what make a great president... A great president can take all the best ideas and lead the nation (the entire nation) to make them happen. Obama can do that.

  • Posted By: stever6000 @ 02/20/2008 1:08:49 PM

    I'm reminded of another Illinois politician who was accused of having nothing more than fancy rhetoric and no political experience. His name was Lincoln. I'm not suggesting that Mr. Obama is another Lincoln, however I think that the "nothing but rhetoric" argument is spurious. You can't critisize Mr. Obama for not having a solid program in one sentance and then state that his views are very similar to Mrs. Clinton's in the next sentance.

  • Posted By: DCSteve @ 02/20/2008 1:08:37 PM

    Everyone agreees Obama and Clinton's plans are almost exactly the same - some very minor differences in how many people will be uninsured in Obama's plan. Maybe Obama is more left on some areas. OK, so if they are the same, how is Obama about change? If he is going to do what Clinton would do, the same policies, the same plans, and she is the same-old same-old, then isn't Obama the same-old same-old? Except he is simply less experienced -- and pretty much everyone believes Clinton can govern more effectively.

    Another thought: for you people that think that an Obama win will be the end to politics as usual don't really understand how Washington works. Are you honestly so innocent to believe the republicans will suddenly work with Obama because he is inspirational? The only way Obama will be able to govern the way he wants is with 60+ voting block in the senate to overcome a republican filibuster. And there are still a lot of democrats from those pesky red states that might be a little to the right of Obama. I doubt that is going to happen no matter how much he puts the Senate on Cspan.

    To use a military analogy Obama is a cavalry man -- dashing, highly effective in his element. Poltics in America today, today is trench warfare. Not the right element for cavalry. You send in the cavalry without having broken the opposing force, it is called a massacre -- and not of the side you would wish.

  • Posted By: bem_columbus @ 02/20/2008 1:08:30 PM

    The bottom line is that the presidency is decided by popularity, by those who can't comprehend the complex issues (hence why Thomas Jefferson & Co. designed the governrment as such) and those who do comprehend are in the minority. BO is trying to win, like all the others. Everything else is commentary.

  • Posted By: dontbuyit @ 02/20/2008 1:08:13 PM

    I don't thinkn he is as liked as the media portrays. There are a whole bunch of us who DO NOT SUPPORT OBAMA!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: Hopeisagoodthing @ 02/20/2008 12:54:07 PM

    If you listen to what he says what you hear is that here is a list of things we can do, if we believe we can. He never suggests that they are things he will do. They are ideas he will bring to the table, but unlike Clinton he makes it clear that he wants to lead us in a fair process for solving problems, rather than cramming solutions down our throats. The difference is clear in the rhetoric. He says "... yes we can." She says "...yes we will." He's leading. She's driving.

    • Posted By: dewcooper @ 02/20/2008 1:07:53 PM

      And what does he do when he runs out of ideas or they are shot down by reality? What you ALL fail to realize is that Obama can promise you all sorts of 'involvement' in the process, but once the vote is counted in the general election, your envolvment STOPS. DONE. FIN ETO. Obama will care less until re-election comes around, at which point he will blaim his failure on the Republican-controlled Congress...

  • Posted By: ekgal @ 02/20/2008 1:07:45 PM

    Finally - someone had the memory and intelligence to understand that there isn't anything behind Obama's promise of "Change." Thank you, thank you, thank you, can we get this printed in bold, emailed and forwarded now so that the followers who find his message so exciting can understand that there really isn't anything to his message! ekg

  • Posted By: simplegiver @ 02/20/2008 1:07:38 PM

    I have read your comment(s) and find substance to it. In politics, like any leadership pursuit, message matters. Your article is similar to those written prior to the reign of JFK, Reagan, and MLK. They were change advocates. Mr. Obama, himself, knows that all the candidiates have similarity in proposals. The difference will be in the ability to bring all parties together thereby moving away from bitter politics. If you think that experience can do that, think again. I wonder where you got the idea that Hillary presented these propositions before Obama. Your calculations on how Obama will solve the problem relating to Social Securtity and medicare is ill conceived b/c doing away with the war in Iraq and investing in a more revolutionalized fuel systems can easily fund any change he has proposed.

  • Posted By: Mr Tacoma @ 02/20/2008 1:07:26 PM

    I think the author misses the point about what this narrow sliver of time during the Bush presidency has had on my generation and several others. What is of tremendous significance, and I think it is unfortunately so, is that the deplorable moral aptitude of this presidency has reintroduced an inordinate premium placed upon integrity. This is Obama's platform. It appears that he has the moral substance to pull the country back into its once much admired status of a beacon of hope and magnanimity. This is all a consequence of the iniquitous system that has been erected over the past eight years--the disappearance of civil rights, the denigration of our international image and so forth. Every president, past and future will be constrained to the mundane necessity of patronage politics, however, the standard Obama raises for himself is the uprightness to maintain the ballast of this necessary evil. It is to avoid sinking into a self-indulgent abuse of power. 'Status quo, status schmo,' who cares, let us once again admire and honor a truly genuine and magnanimous president--there have been so few, because of this talk of "experience and strategy."
    Preston from Tacoma, WA

  • Posted By: KevinMusick93 @ 02/20/2008 1:07:13 PM

    When you vote for McCain you vote for the same. He backs a 100 year war in Iraq, and hides behind 911 to instill fear in every American. When is anyone going ask McCain how he is going to deal with the current economic crisis in America? Actually he already answered how he would deal with the current crisis by dealing with Keating and The Lincoln Savings scandal.
    McCain is just another puppet on the "Bush Regime", with the same views of status quo.
    I am proud to be an American and I'm proud of this country, which is why I say its time to make a change. When we are spending billions of dollars in Iraq, People are losing their homes by the thousands and healthcare is out of reach for thousands. How can anyone vote for the same old thing?

  • Posted By: R1ck @ 02/20/2008 1:07:11 PM

    albertgorejr wrote:

    Comment: No experience. - He has a much as Hillary
    No pride in his muslim heritage. - He's Christian. Didn't get the memo, huh?
    No plan. - Hillary says his plan copies hers. Which is it?
    No ass. - I haven't looked. Not my thing.
    Vote No to Obama - Vote NO to rhetoric!
    ___________________________________
    The Article:

    Talking about rhetoric?! Your entire piece is nothing more than huff and hype. Its hard to believe that even you could believe that what you wrote was objective. It was nothing more than spin. You are clearly a closet hillary supporter. That's okay, I was a Hillary supporter too, that is until people like you began your attemps to usurp the process a' la the jedi mind trick: "change is bad; Obama is bad; etc. Going forward, it would serve you well to announce your affiliations so as to avoid looking deceptive as you do now.

  • Posted By: newsweek101 @ 02/20/2008 1:07:01 PM

    Lillea Get your facts straight.. Proud as in her husband will be the first black president.. maybe you are too stupid to understand that., bc you dont have a man....sounds like you do need GOD.. Whats wrong with her feeling proud??

  • Posted By: MAZees @ 02/20/2008 1:06:30 PM

    Interesting that Samuelson believes that "by Obama's own moral standards, Obama fails." Obama hasn't gotten into office yet, so it's rather premature to say he has not delivered on his promises, don't you think? The fact is, simply by leaving Iraq, we free up quite a few dollars (trillions) to begin addressing many of the problems the current administration has ignored. And while Hillary is certainly bright, it's been very easy to forget the non-stop controversies and bitter partisan fighting of the Clinton administration. The Limbaughs and Coulters of this world were born out of that administration. By the standards of the last 2 administrations, I'd say change is good, very good.

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