The Obama Delusion

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  • Posted By: ns2411 @ 02/22/2008 3:32:18 AM

    This is the first "real" evaluation of B.Obama's political rhetoric I've read. In general, the press and pundants are way too soft on B. Obama, and at the same time seem to nitpick at H. Clinton. Sure, Obama is impressive; we want him to succeed; we, like the "Obama Girl" on You-Tube, have fallen in love with the image. Obama represents what we would like to see valued--the American Dream in action. But, talk is not performance. Promise is not results. Politicians must deliver; to do so, they must know the system, not just talk about how they can go around it. Jimmy Carter tried to make a difference in Washington--with all good intentions--but failed more often than not to bring about his promised "change." Obama, too, will ultimately fail to deliver on the promises he's glibly making to all of us.

  • Posted By: ns2411 @ 02/22/2008 3:31:04 AM

    This is the first "real" evaluation of B.Obama's political rhetoric I've read. In general, the press and pundants are way too soft on B. Obama, and at the same time seem to nitpick at H. Clinton. Sure, Obama is impressive; we want him to succeed; we, like the "Obama Girl" on You-Tube, have fallen in love with the image. Obama represents what we would like to see valued--the American Dream in action. But, talk is not performance. Promise is not results. Politicians must deliver; to do so, they must know the system, not just talk about how they can go around it. Jimmy Carter tried to make a difference in Washington--with all good intentions--but failed more often than not to bring about his promised "change." Obama, too, will ultimately fail to deliver on the promises he's glibly making to all of us.

  • Posted By: bluestems @ 02/22/2008 3:18:15 AM

    I can't see McCain saving social security or improving the economy while continuing the $200 million/day in Iraq... for another 100 years remember is ok by him.

    Obama and Hillary's plans are very similar, this is true. However, the key difference is who do I believe is able to lead and bring these plans into reality?

    Two main points here make Obama that person for me... his ability to inspire and bring people together to listen and work towards solutions, and his work towards transparency and accountability in our gov't.

  • Posted By: Bullwinkle @ 02/21/2008 11:06:26 PM

    I've only read a few of the entries here -- don't really need to read many to know that all of the "naysayers" say the same thing. First of all, there are some realities we must confront. There are two kinds of people in this country right now -- those who are going to vote for Obama ... and those that are NOT. The writer, Samuelson, obviously is NOT. That's okay. The naysayers that have written in here because you don't like Obama's middle name (that's rather sophisticated), because he's black (that's insightful), because he's not "seasoned" enough, because he a great orator but not much else ... WHATEVER! Then, of course, there are people like myself who WILL vote for him. One of the reasons is because I don't agree with many of YOUR reasons for not voting for him. Yet the main reason is because, quite accurately is just what the writer said, "You know what you get in McCain and Clinton." Well, neither of those things is what I want! However unproven he might seem to you (though he's been an elected official more years than Hillary has) and unprepared he may seem to you to be commander-in-chief (though he had the better judgment than McCain to vote to get us in the only mess this country has been in worse than Vietnam), I'd rather take my chances on his savvy and intellect. He HAS reached across party lines to get things done (where Hillary prefers partisan politics because she loves a good fight), but I really trust in his intellect to surround himself with the right people. A president, no matter how talented or dynamic, cannot govern alone (hell, McCain can't even give a speech without a teleprompter!). That said, I believe Obama is smart enough (certainly moreso than the "fighter" Hillary and the "Maverick" McCain) to do what his says and LISTEN, LISTEN, LISTEN. Ironic, his critics (like Samuelson) want to bash him for being contrary to his word and actually "...telling people what they want to hear." Well, you can't do that unless you both LISTEN to them in the first place and wisely JUDGE what to say accordingly (if his accusation is true), as evidenced in his election success thus far. A good president can only be so if he or she FIRST listens to the will of the people and then JUDGES what would be the best course of action for their good. That begins with putting such a person in office.

    • Posted By: Toni Kamau @ 02/22/2008 3:07:38 AM

      Quite good staff but still you norture some partisan views. How can u put Mc Cain and Hillary on the same level?

  • Posted By: nikkik @ 02/22/2008 2:36:11 AM

    Imagine, Obama as president, with the organization he has developed as an ongoing grassroots lobby who will support him and lobby our reps and senators, instead of delegating that to pro politicians and lobbyists and spacing out. Obama is offering us an antidote to Washington insiderism empowered by the ignorance of narcicisstic or apathetic "citizens." Citizenship under Obama is what will change Washington! We are the rightful lobby.

  • Posted By: nikkik @ 02/22/2008 2:35:47 AM

    Comment: I believe this article is incorrect, because there is a real difference between Obama and other politicians. It is an issue of ability to galvanize political will to achieve hard things, and he will tell you the same thing. The fact that those unachieved hard things are not new ideas is not the point. As he said, Washington has become a place for good ideas to go die. THAT is what he is telling us he will change, and THAT IS what we believe he is capable of, with OUR BACKING - with his grassroots organizing ability to galvanize political will, to summon the wind to his back.

  • Posted By: nikkik @ 02/22/2008 2:33:54 AM

    Comment: I believe this article is incorrect, because there is a real difference between Obama and other politicians. It is an issue of ability to galvanize political will to achieve hard things, and he will tell you the same thing. The fact that those unachieved hard things are not new ideas is not the point. As he said, Washington has become a place for good ideas to go die. THAT is what he is telling us he will change, and THAT IS what we believe he is capable of, with OUR BACKING - with his grassroots organizing ability to galvanize political will, to summon the wind to his back.

  • Posted By: farmore @ 02/22/2008 1:36:27 AM

    This is like the first article pointing this out. He has been going around promising change and never says what he will change. He seems to think that when he is elected, all the republicans and democrats will get together in a big love fest and pass everything he wants to do and majically the budget will balance. He has a "vision" for america that sounds a lot like Bush's vision in 2000. Remember he was going to unite everyone in Washington as well. As far as experience, he has about the same amount of experience as Bush, and that has certainly worked out well for all of us.

  • Posted By: farmore @ 02/22/2008 1:33:33 AM

    This is like the first article pointing this out. He has been going around promising change and never says what he will change. He seems to think that when he is elected, all the republicans and democrats will get together in a big love fest and pass everything he wants to do and majically the budget will balance. He has a "vision" for america that sounds a lot like Bush's vision in 2000. Remember he was going to unite everyone in Washington as well. As far as experience, he has about the same amount of experience as Bush, and that has certainly worked out well for all of us.

  • Posted By: sarahjo @ 02/22/2008 1:01:19 AM

    glad the media 'lovefest' is over. i have one newseek magazine from a couple of weeks ago that practically was dedicated to obama. when this becomes a fair contest - which it maybe too late to become that - then maybe i'll take the obama people seriously. right now - i have no interest.

  • Posted By: JJJJJ @ 02/21/2008 7:41:32 PM

    Ah yes...............Obama. Say it with me....Obama. The name rolls off the tongue. OOOOOOOhammmmma. Mr. Obama and his beautiful speeches of rainbows, little rabbits running about, flower, lots and lots of pretty flowers AND ALL PART of his idealistic, socialist utopia.

    Oh brave new world! What a utopia it will be as long as Obama speaks to me. Pass me a Soma before I actually validate his words. I don't want to think....................but just dream of Obama's and his promise of utopia.

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 02/21/2008 8:26:29 PM

      A Huxley reference... I am impressed! I wonder how many Obama supporters have read that book?

      • Posted By: NYC1973 @ 02/21/2008 9:24:08 PM

        Applause!

        • Posted By: mariethomson @ 02/21/2008 10:53:41 PM

          Soooooooooooo right on!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 02/22/2008 12:53:38 AM

            Its good to know that the people that have read Brave New World are the same ones questioning teh practicallity of Obama.

  • Posted By: sarahjo @ 02/22/2008 12:49:23 AM

    I just don't want somebody singing cumbaya all day long. I want a fighter as commander in chief. Sorry, but all this good feel talk is not what i'm looking for. I want someone tough and ready to jump in the ring. especially for the next phase of this election. hillary is the only one out of all of them (repub and dems) that looks like she has the stomache to fight

  • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 02/22/2008 12:46:07 AM

    It's not what Obama can do for you, its what you can do for Obama!

  • Posted By: saga @ 02/21/2008 11:10:18 PM

    The focus of this piece is misplaced, if not outright cynical. It's as if it's asking: "What will Obama do for me?" and then answers "Nothing." It isn't what Obama will do for you. It's what Obama will inspire in you that will effect change in this country.

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 02/22/2008 12:43:14 AM

      So your saying Obama will do nothing but inspire all of us? How is that leadership? If he isn't going to do anything, how is that any different from the rest of the yahoos in Washington?

  • Posted By: enlight @ 02/22/2008 12:23:32 AM

    Interesting MacknIowa, that the same ignorance you speak of is the same ignorance you display! To say that the reason "obama's main base is blacks and younger voters [who] do not have the education nor experience to know better" is rather superficial of you. No doubt, your "good" black friends may be backing him for the wrong reason, but dont assume that is the case for the rest of this country's blacks or younger voters. You are free to disagree with a candidate's stance, but dont let that make you into a self-proclaimed guru. Simply put, to assume there are Obama-supporters who havent done their "homework" would only make you as delusional as the people you speak of.

  • Posted By: curlee @ 02/22/2008 12:08:46 AM

    I agree with Samuelson. Anyone can get up before a crowd and proclaim what they will do. However, the truth is in the pudding, as they say. Obama's rhetoric is just commonplace promises that he cannot fulfill. If you go beyond his eloquence with words, then there is nothing but empty promises. We need a leader who is truly an American, who is truly concerned with the problems in our country. Everyone wants to blame all of our problems on our current leader, who is not without fault. Our problems started years ago, and they are ballooning out of control. We cannot sit by any longer and allow our country to fall, as one foreign leader projected many years ago, that we would destroy ourselves. This is what we are doing. Obama cannot lead our country as it was founded. I fear that he will be elected just because he is black, which is what I have heard a lot of people say. That is a poor excure for electing the leader of our country. No one should be elected just because he is black, white, asian, or whatever. They should be elected on how they can lead our country. AGain, lets remember that we need a LEADER, which is someone who will lead us in the right direction, a direction that is for the people of this country to better serve our needs. Obama is NOTthat man. Clinton is NOT that woman. Unfortunately, I do not think that McCain is the man either. This makes our election really sad that we do not have a candidate who can lead this country in the way that it needs to be led.

  • Posted By: kewnswee @ 02/21/2008 11:56:47 PM

    The first words that I heard Barack Obama say were -- This should be, That should be. The words sounded like promises, promises for that which we want. But I gave another thought to his words. He sounds like he is promising something good. But he only said that it SHOULD be this way. In other words, he was saying to me that there were great things in the world (BUT DON'T TELL ME LATER THAT I PROMISED IT TO YOU, BECAUSE I ONLY SAID -- IT SHOULD BE).

  • Posted By: MacknIowa @ 02/21/2008 11:38:47 PM

    Finally, someone with enough intelligence to see beyond the extremely vague promises Obama has made. His voting record tells us that he will change absolutely nothing if elected and all 'business' will be as usual. Why do people fall for such absolute 'nothingness' all the time. The same reason Obama's main base is blacks and younger voters--they do not have the education nor experience to know better. Many black friends of mine are supporting him, but when questioned as to why they do--the answer is 100% that he is black. Very unfortunate. Very good black people, but if they only back someone because of this, then it is just plain and simply more prejudice, only in a reverse form.
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  • Posted By: jpj0318@ecu.edu @ 02/21/2008 11:23:18 PM

    Samuelson has done a terrific job with this article and I agree with his position on Obama. The press does not scrutinize Obama as they do Clinton. Since December, he has been presented in only extremely positive light. Yet, sooner or later the tide will turn. He is arrogant and full of himself.
    Samuelson has done a terrific job with this article and I agree with his position on Obama. The press does not scrutinize Obama as they do Clinton. Since December, he has been presented in only extremely positive light. Yet, sooner or later the tide will turn. He is arrogant and full of himself. We don???t personally know any of the candidates, yet the media has shoved Obama in our faces as the darling golden boy of politics. And I cannot get over how America is getting sucked into the hype! How is he going to handle the negative reports when the press turns against him ??? and eventually they will just like they have done to George W. Bush! How will he handle a national crisis? How strongly will he stand against Islamic extremists ??? when his paternal relatives are Muslim? He must have some sympathies that lie with Muslims! His wife would rather keep her private life just that ??? private! The press will be all up in her business ??? and sister doesn???t bite her tongue! She will take all of their bait and they will go negative on her. Well, I don???t trust him and I don???t want his leadership for this nation. So I am not aligned with Obama???s recent polls that he touts claiming that Clinton supporters will just automatically move and slide over to him. Nothing could be further from the truth. I am a Clinton supporter who will vote for McCain if she is not the democratic nominee. The darkest hour is just before daybreak. I am not a sell-out and I am sticking with Hillary! I need more than CHANGE in my pocket - I need Solutions!

    • Posted By: Bullwinkle @ 02/21/2008 11:32:01 PM

      Uh, okay. Vote for Hillary or McCain then. Have a good day! :-)

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