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  • Posted By: Suspicious Minds @ 02/22/2008 3:53:29 PM

    Yes, the president of change ... as in "Gimme all your change, I need it all for the 642 new 'PROGRAMS' to help all you misguided folks find your way down the righteous path to socialist reform." Let's all make a circle, hold hands and sing Kumbaya. As the great philosopher Charlie Brown said "Arrrrrrghhhh!"

    • Posted By: jeanette713 @ 02/23/2008 10:57:11 AM

      I agree wholeheartedly

  • Posted By: getzel @ 02/23/2008 10:30:09 AM

    Research indicates there are 3, maybe 4 if you include congressmen, specific types of people that support PINKObumer.

    1. Hate themselves, and of course proclaim it is others that hate.
    2. Hate others, and of course proclaim it is others that hate.
    3. Most prevalent group: UDOPIANS: Characterized by bizarre manifestations of HOPE and CHANGE according to each individuals individual fantasy of utopia. UDOPIANS have the same side effects, not unlike alcoholics or drug addicts, they are in denial as to reality: that HOPE and CHANGE mean nothing; and yet those with UDOPIA feel HOPE & CHANGE means whatever they fanaticize it means. Each has the same basic politically correct response to those who try and point out they have UDOPIAN simplex: you are a neo-con or you hate or other similar politically correct accusations of the day. Someone points out: OBUMER you have UDOPIAN simplex: I see all the red flags of UDOPIA; same delusional HOPE for CHANGE answer every time.
    4. Congressmen, & their workers, who think PINKObumer is their: 4 more years of pork barrel: free meal ticket for their districts; no leadership with a clue to control congressional out of control spending.= easy re-election.

  • Posted By: morangles @ 02/23/2008 9:38:33 AM

    beats me how many intelligent people wheter politicians or journalists of whaterver western nation miss the point about what is happening since those last 15ys. What we are witnessing whether in Israel; Iran, Pakistan and even Huckabee bid is the religious version of Custer last stand. Religious , not as a fight for faith, but a fight of religious nomenklatura to keep political power to wield political power. Who in his/her right mind is discussing the intricaties of catholicism, Islam or Sikhism. No one disputes the other's faith or lack of it. It is a personal matter; rather we see the Pope, the archbishop of Canterbury, the Mullahs etc putting their pudgt finger into the polittical pie and stealing it. The Iranian Prez can , for all my blessing, believe in the holy powers of Onions if he wishes too, no problem by me, but that he should find normal to relinquish his poltical independance to a group of people who for only achievement have grown beards and kneel 7 times a daytoward Mecca is plainly wrong. This is the onslaught of unproven faith against proven science, proven math, proven facts. Jesus, a strong one for neocons , and a strong one for the Pope and myself incidentally saif to keep apart Caesar and God. Hucabee wants to change our constition to make it christian forgetting the Orthdoxs,Jews, non-believers, Buddhists etc of our great nation. This is no war on terror, this a war against secularism, against tolerance. When I'll see , you, remind us that the war on terror is that religious fanatics called them islamofascists or christian nutballs have started against any nation who believes that politics is the salve of faith. This is no war on terror, this is war against freedom of speech, freedom of belief.

  • Posted By: smatei @ 02/23/2008 7:42:47 AM

    "the group has never come close to duplicating 9/11; even the train bombings in London and Madrid that were attributed to Al Qaeda-inspired cells were minor by comparison." Shouldn't the war on terror be in fact directly credited for this relative inactivity? This commentary would make sense if there was a way to measure what the effect of a policy of passivity would've been. Until then, the proof of the pie is in eating it.

  • Posted By: smatei @ 02/23/2008 7:40:31 AM

    "the group has never come close to duplicating 9/11; even the train bombings in London and Madrid that were attributed to Al Qaeda-inspired cells were minor by comparison." Shouldn't the war on terror be directly credited for this?

  • Posted By: Mwalimu @ 02/23/2008 12:10:58 AM

    If you have been reading recent issues of Jeune Afrique. (And advantage to speaking French), you'd notice a concern about the spread of Islamic fundamentalism in the Maghreb. (A recent issue featured a very revealing article about the training of suicide bombers in Algeria.) According to journalists writing for Jeune Afrique, Islamic fundamentalsim is spreading for two reasons. First of all, the American occupation of Iraq; secondly, the soaring poverty and unemployment in many cities in the Arab world.

    Obama has one big trump card. He appeals to the young. Afrique Magazine and Jeune Afrique have already written about him. (Afrique Magazine labels him America's best hope.) Most terrorists are young. Much of the Islamic world, including Iran, is young. We cannot, I repeat, we cannot defeat terrorism by military means. McCain's solution to terrorism -= namely :bomb Iran" will only increase the appeal of Islamic Fundamentlaism. We can end or contain terrorism only if we do the following. First, find some way to leave Iraq. Secondly, eliminate or reduce the socio-economic conditions that breed terrroism. Thirdly, we need to cut the funding source - mainly oil revenues (much of it flowing through Saudi Arabia). We need to seriously develop green technology I might add that we could increase wealth in the Middle East by sharing green technology with them. (Even Abu Dubai recognizes that the wealth of oil will not last forever.) I would urge Obama to initiate this debate. I believe his background provides makes him highly qualified to understand these issues. We need to intiate change in the way we fight terrorism.

  • Posted By: marketingtruth @ 02/22/2008 8:29:53 PM

    People who complain that Barack Obama lacks experience must be unaware of his legislative achievements. One reason these accomplishments are unfamiliar is that the media have not devoted enough attention to Obama's bills and the effort required to pass them, ignoring impressive, hard evidence of his character and ability.

    Since most of Obama's legislation was enacted in Illinois, most of the evidence is found there -- and it has been largely ignored by the media in a kind of Washington snobbery that assumes state legislatures are not to be taken seriously. (Another factor is reporters' fascination with the horse race at the expense of substance that they assume is boring, a fascination that despite being ridiculed for years continues to dominate political journalism.)

    I am a rarity among Washington journalists in that I have served in a state legislature. I know from my time in the West Virginia legislature that the challenges faced by reform-minded state representatives are no less, if indeed not more, formidable than those encountered in Congress. For me, at least, trying to deal with those challenges involved as much drama as any election. And the "heart and soul" bill, the one for which a legislator gives everything he or she has to get passed, has long told me more than anything else about a person's character and ability.
    By Charles Peter

  • Posted By: redd_green @ 02/22/2008 6:04:01 PM

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    Posted By: ObamaMama @ 02/22/2008 5:04:38 PM
    Comment: A continued worldwide effort to expose radical terror cells and extremists, expose plots BEFORE they are executed, requires international co-operation, intelligence sharing, INTERPOL plus. For the good of the world, I believe all countries will choose to strengthen these efforts. I believe President Obama will encourage and strengthen international participation of such goals. War is NOT a requirement for world co-operation that protects the BROTHERHOOD OF MAN.
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    Our "government" was sitting in the Pentagon, watching 09/11 unfold, and told the military to stand down. Watch Manetta's testimony. Then read the documents on the PNAC web site. It will make you sick.


  • Posted By: redd_green @ 02/22/2008 6:02:33 PM

    if terror was that big a deal, then Bush would have killed his daddy's best friends kid, Osama Bin Laden. Bush let him get away, then 6 months after 09/11, said "he's not that big a deal" on television for everyone to see. The Bushs got what they want: lots of military all over Iraq, to help out his buddies in oil and lucrative government contracting business. Its a gross insult to anyone with 1/4 of a brain to call it a "war on terror". War for terror is a better description.

  • Posted By: gon16 @ 02/22/2008 6:02:00 PM

    i live in a state that is voting pretty soon, and haven't made up my mind about who to vote for, i'd like to hear people's opinions about what the world will think about following someone like Obama vs someone like HRC. how confident are people that either one can truly stop the 'war on terror'? i assume they'd try to apeal to the UN for support while we get out of IRAQ. which one would inspire more worldwide cooperation?

  • Posted By: gon16 @ 02/22/2008 6:00:14 PM

    i live in a state that is voting pretty soon, and haven't made up my mind about who to vote for, i'd like to hear people's opinions about what the world will think about following someone like Obama vs someone like HRC. how confident are people that either one can truly stop the 'war on terror'? i assume they'd try to apeal to the UN for support while we get out of IRAQ. which one would inspire more worldwide cooperation?

  • Posted By: az_prof @ 02/22/2008 5:19:33 PM

    Sjones writes below: "We'll abandon our allies and try cut deals with dictators instead of supporting democracy. " Is he talking about Senator Obama or President Reagan who cut deals with Iran (Iran-Contra) and who at the same time supplies Osama bin Laden and Al Quaeda with troops to fight the Russians in Afganistan--who also supported Saddaam Hussein in his war against Iran?

    Senator Obama represents new ideas and an engagement with the world that is not Emperial. It is about time because after eight years of Bush-Cheney we don't have many allies left in the world.

  • Posted By: ObamaMama @ 02/22/2008 5:04:38 PM

    A continued worldwide effort to expose radical terror cells and extremists, expose plots BEFORE they are executed, requires international co-operation, intelligence sharing, INTERPOL plus. For the good of the world, I believe all countries will choose to strengthen these efforts. I believe President Obama will encourage and strengthen international participation of such goals. War is NOT a requirement for world co-operation that protects the BROTHERHOOD OF MAN.

  • Posted By: sjones_1 @ 02/22/2008 5:01:56 PM

    I have very little confidence in Barack Obama. The man is an utterly untested former state Senator. I went to the Ivy League too, trust me it means nothing. He's handsome and charming. So is the guy who does the local news in every town across the country. So is the guy who sells you a used car. He's gone off the deep end on foreign policy. Where he hasn't boxed himself into a corner on promising to withdraw our military, he's overcommitting us by trying to seem macho. An Obama Presidency would consist of standard Democratic economics -- tax the rich, cut down on trade to protect domestic manufacturers. If he succeeds in making us high tax isolationists our economy stalls. If he fails to deliver on all his overblown "hope" and promises he simply poisons the well by blaming Republicans for his failures. Either way its a recipe for failure and stagnation. And his foreign policy represents an America in decline. We'll abandon our allies and try cut deals with dictators instead of supporting democracy. All grim stuff. Look, the Iraq war will stabilize. Iraq, simply, has oil. That alone gives it the strength to succeed provided a reasonable amount of continued support from us. McCain seems to be the man for the moment. He can work with Democrats. He can get independants. He was right all along strategically about getting enough forces into Iraq. McCain seems to be a guy we can be proud of in office with his rational centered pricipled politics. Obama's brand of populism is going to flare out one way or another.

  • Posted By: sjones_1 @ 02/21/2008 6:34:57 PM

    Thanks for the chance to comment. I don't think the 911 attackers were, in your words, "lucky" the 911 report showed they exploited real vulnerabilities in our society. They are deliberate and ruthless; we can't discount the threat. They are, I'm sure, looking for new opportunities to kill. They won't just stumble into something new and get lucky. The lack of attacks, on the scale of 911, could be attributed to a lot of things. One being they may not want to unite western societies against them at this stage by killing off lots of civiliians. They like us divided about how much effort to put into fighting them. It's easier to pick off the weak first. The battle grounds are Iraq and Afghanistan and Pakistan, etc. It's nice to see Pakistan rejecting extremists in the ballot box, but let's not pretend that extremists can't get real power. Iran is a terrorist state. Terrorist is loaded term, but I'm speaking of their support for militant groups around the region, and for attacks on Americans in Iraq and Lebanon that they regime or its paramilitary forces supported. So the notion that extremists are stumblebums who can't ever get real power is wrong. There is a very good chance Iran is either directly or indirectly pursuing nuclear weapons or the capability to produce them in short order which would allow it to spread its ideology and threaten democracy. So the War on Terror is the biggest mission for Democrats and Republicans. We've got to unite as a society and fight this battle. Democrats and the GOP should fight about taxes and social programs. But national security with the stakes this high is too important to be left to the whims and petty cheap shots of election cycles. Sooner or later a Democrat President is going to be in office and he or she will not be able to fulfill the promises made to Moveon.org and others. The terror threat is real and no President will be able to ignore. I've never understood the term "neo-con" but the notion that a little more Democracy in that region would help reduce terror seems to be a good one. So war is terrible, I wish we didn't have them, but I don't think the next President can allow Iraq to fail and will need to provide military support. Also, we can prevent war with cloak and dagger activity; kill the bad guys in the night. So why the heck won't Democrats in Congress give our spy guys the power to wiretap? Suing the companies that help our intelligence agencies is just crazy -- they might be thwarting it for the ACLU vote, or the trial lawyer dollars, but I'd rather have our spies spying than our GI guys dying. Anyway, Mr. Hirsh is way off with his article. I just wonder about what goes on with reporters as a class of people. Many of them have not had real jobs other than pontificating ideas that get lots of attention for being just "out there" to sell papers. But pundits and politicians shouldn't be running these debates. Patriots should.

    • Posted By: geoff2112 @ 02/21/2008 6:52:53 PM

      i think some politicians are patriots haha. maybe even some pundits.

      • Posted By: PoliticalRealityOnline @ 02/21/2008 7:36:35 PM

        SJones:

        Extremely well said, but you will not find a lot of rational thought going on in this venue. It is so much easier to buy into Obama's fantasy, Kumbaya world than to unite and confront the real world issues we all face together. In the mean time, all of America's worst enemies will be enjoying the spectacle of the USA's self destruction in a cauldron of willfull ignorance, petty/ illfounded hatreds, delusional naivete and charismatic nonsense.

        It appears that the democrat sponsored NEA has done its work so well in dumbing down America that too many voters are not well educated enough to consider facts and substance over false imagery and charismatic demagoguery that is designed to manipulate them into voting for their economic self-destruction. Unfortunately, in this case, ignorance will not be economic bliss for long, and America will learn a painful lesson about our collective economic, geo-strategic and military vulnerabilities if they do not snap out of Obama's messianic fantasy world idiocy before its too late.

        • Posted By: kirktc_487 @ 02/22/2008 12:05:57 PM

          I heard a lot from you PoliticalRealityOnline, except solutions. Now how do you suggest getting past the excuses, and giving some education on how to accomplish what you obviously see as a problem. President Obama has said it will take all of us to change how government has been run in the past. That it will take each one of us to participate while these changes are made in the political arena our country has built. The kumbaya is that we are to use our right as American citizens to vote on representation that we agree with " political Figure" and if this figure does not perform as he/she represented then don't reelect this figure, simple, but sometimes a hard lesson to learn from, huh.

          • Posted By: sjones_1 @ 02/22/2008 5:00:54 PM

            I have very little confidence in Barack Obama. The man is an utterly untested former state Senator. I went to the Ivy League too, trust me it means nothing. He's handsome and charming. So is the guy who does the local news in every town across the country. So is the guy who sells you a used car. He's gone off the deep end on foreign policy. Where he hasn't boxed himself into a corner on promising to withdraw our military, he's overcommitting us by trying to seem macho. An Obama Presidency would consist of standard Democratic economics -- tax the rich, cut down on trade to protect domestic manufacturers. If he succeeds in making us high tax isolationists our economy stalls. If he fails to deliver on all his overblown "hope" and promises he simply poisons the well by blaming Republicans for his failures. Either way its a recipe for failure and stagnation. And his foreign policy represents an America in decline. We'll abandon our allies and try cut deals with dictators instead of supporting democracy. All grim stuff. Look, the Iraq war will stabilize. Iraq, simply, has oil. That alone gives it the strength to succeed provided a reasonable amount of continued support from us. McCain seems to be the man for the moment. He can work with Democrats. He can get independants. He was right all along strategically about getting enough forces into Iraq. McCain seems to be a guy we can be proud of in office with his rational centered pricipled politics. Obama's brand of populism is going to flare out one way or another.

        • Posted By: miamiman @ 02/22/2008 12:14:06 PM

          Political Reality online: we and sjones obviously dont belong among those duped by the charisma and false imagery of the Dem campaign. hilary or obama could be interchangeable. The dumbing down that you speak of is real as this is nothing but a popularity contest withour substance. The war on terror is real and we are not the ones pressing or agressing. The naivete which obama espouses is astounding even dangerous for us.

  • Posted By: az_prof @ 02/22/2008 4:56:41 PM

    It would be foolish for Obama to make the arguments made in this piece in the campaign in such a direct manner; most Americans simply cannot understand these nuances. After all, most Americans still do not even know that Saddam Hussein and Iraq had nothing to do with 9-11. Most Americans understand very little about Islam and even less about its sectarian and tribal divisions. However, Senator Obama has suggested that he understands the issues raised in this article: he talks about a new emphasis on diplomacy; he talks about the need for America to hold ourselves to the highest ideals and morals in our dealings with other countries and so he would immediately end torture and close Guantanamo; he talks about how the war in Iraq diverted America from the real enemy--Al Quaeda and Osama bin Laden; he talks about extending an offer to open up lines of communication with old enemies as a way to win them to our way of life, rather than ignoring them and building walls of separation. I think in short, he HAS indicated that his foreign policy would be different, without directly speaking about the War on Terror itself as something that is illusionary and unnecessary, an argument which would not be effective.

  • Posted By: shazomar @ 02/22/2008 4:48:08 PM

    to the writer....so true...never mind Iraq..end this war on terror!

  • Posted By: concernedcitizen69 @ 02/22/2008 4:35:54 PM

    Very nice article. On point, and well thought-out. I agree 100% that Bush and Co. used 9/11 as an excuse to drag the U.S. into costly, unproductive conflicts with Iraq and alienation with other allies. The bottom line is that we need to stop pretending Iraq is part of the war on terror, and actually have a targeted, precise, and well-thought out approach to this problem that involves a lot more real diplomacy that what we've seen over the last few years.

    And the other thing I like about your article is that you see, as I do, that we are giving these thugs too much credit and only giving them exactly what we want when we elevate them to some type of worldwide diabolical status. It's time to become ruthless, but surgical, in our dealings with these people, instead of wasting billions and billions of dollars and lining the pockets of contractors to fight useless wars that don't accomplish any real objectives.

  • Posted By: merihart @ 02/22/2008 4:19:52 PM

    Terrorism cannot be addressed except by attempted world-wide totalitarianism, a remedy worse than the disease. I would rather take my chances with isolated instances of terrorism than to be subjected to world-wide totalitarianism.

  • Posted By: keepyourname @ 02/22/2008 2:14:05 PM

    Yeah, sounds like a great idea. Lets put Barack Hussein Obama in charge of our foreign affairs and middle east relations. Right now the vast majority of his supporters are acting like he's on American Idol. Maybe by November we will all be able to text our presdential vote in. WAKE UP

    • Posted By: Dave in NM @ 02/22/2008 2:26:40 PM

      I agree. It IS a great idea! Thanks for supporting the Obama campaign, and I also agree that voting should be more widely available. Oh - you were just being another racist idiot making hay of Sen. Obama's middle name? What's yours? Adolph?

      • Posted By: wakeuppeople @ 02/22/2008 4:01:42 PM

        Easy there genius. It's not racist to call someone by their full name. His just happens to be Barack HUSSEIN Obama! Talk about racist, to call a white man Adolph is also racist! So before you go to your next white-hatin' rally with Louis Farrakhan or Jesse Jackass, take a look in the mirror before you call someone else racist. Oh, and do you find it interesting that Obama's black father fran out on him and he was raised by his white mother? Again, you can call that racist, but it IS just STATING A FACT!!!

        • Posted By: wakeuppeople @ 02/22/2008 4:11:10 PM

          Oh, and by the way, just in case you're wondering, I'm 1/2 Spanish, 1/2 Puerto Rican, and a Democrat. It's people like you that give the rest of the party a bad name. Stop acting like sheeple and wake up!

      • Posted By: wakeuppeople @ 02/22/2008 4:08:35 PM

        What's the problem there Davey? Can't handle it when someone points out FACTS instead making stating dumbass opinions like you? Obama's black father ran out on him and only his white mother stuck around to raise him. That is NOT a racist comment, it is just a FACT! That's all people like you are good at, bitching and feeling sorry for yourselves. Take a look in the mirror, the only racist people on this blog are you and Liz-E! Hypocrites.

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