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  • Posted By: mksl1 @ 02/23/2008 12:46:16 AM

    Obama either lied about the troops needing ammunition or he actually didn't know because he didn't even look at the reports widely available to all Senators.
    He keep saying he will pull troops out of Iraq and that will FORCE the Iraqi government to take over.But what if they're not ready? Demos have been suggesting that idea for years now and it's a non-starter.Because that would mean abandoning Iraq before the Iraqi's ar ready and that would be a disaster.
    His pledge to run,hat-in-hand to every dictator and make peace is laughably naive or viciously dishonest.Just another Jimmy Carter fantasy.It was Carter's totally failed "hat-in-hand" deal with N.Korea that resulted in them going forward with their nuclear weapons program.
    That situation has improved only because Bush insisted on multi-party negotiations,including the Chinese and now N.Korea is co-operating.Diplomacy requires toughness not a gentle image as Obama implies.

  • Posted By: mpunfun @ 02/22/2008 11:55:45 PM

    Actually, I can live with either one as President and would be thrilled if they ran on the same ticket. I prefer Obama for President because II believe he has guts, integrity, commitment and passion. I admire Hilary because she is a fighter. Together they would make a great team and it would be a new and brighter day in America if every Republican in office was defeated. Maybe then, they would get the message. .

    • Posted By: Jrmapu @ 02/23/2008 12:23:12 AM

      Thats nice. The only problem with that scenario is that putting Hillary second means women are second class citizens. Obama would make a great President some day, just not this day. He needs more experience to deal with the real big dogs of the political race. He is so unsure of himself that he continued to vote present and would not take a stand on issues of importance. His healthcare plan punishes poor parents if they don't get insurance for thier children. That tells volumes about his past positions. If he took stands and truly implemented healthcare for children in his state he would have been able to better prepare for the healthcare issue. Obama has alot to learn. Healthcare and economy should come natural for him when presented in a public forum.

  • Posted By: fmac @ 02/22/2008 10:57:40 PM

    I don't agree that Clinton connected in closing. Her friendly parting injunction to Obama made her look like a hypocrite after the nasty "zinger" she laid on him earlier regarding plagiarism. Her friendly gesture at the end was an attempt to repair the damage and redeem herself after the booing. It came across as cloying.

    • Posted By: GTX13 @ 02/23/2008 12:14:52 AM

      Just words...! Just words... !! Just... STOLEN words !!! But we have ...short mind !!

    • Posted By: Jrmapu @ 02/22/2008 11:07:26 PM

      Its called politics for a reason. Obama has not been very gracious either. Its okay ,his true leadership style is coming out. All his experience about not voting on an issue or taking a stand is whats coming out on the podiums. Especially when he doesn't have a pre-written speech full of other people's words. Hillary used JFK words, gave credit, and moved on.

  • Posted By: GTX13 @ 02/23/2008 12:09:43 AM

    On the last debate Hillary was so far the best ! In vain some news makers show incompetence . They are big lies using some stupid bull-*** tricks, their own soviet innovation.. They compromise them self ! The viewers can see the truth ! All electronic poles are distorted with no shame. The Gallup pole is most credible ! In this situation we have to protest on the future and no more watching on TV that kind off communist propaganda done by order ! Only when the Oprah's billion of Dollars will be gone, we'll have a little bit more credibility on the mass media !!

  • Posted By: Grandma B @ 02/22/2008 11:59:53 PM

    And he came across as condesending male. It is amazing that we see only what we want to see. This is not a beauty contest folks. We are electing the leader of the free world. I am increasingly concerned about the press and the influence it has on the thinking of the american people. The title of this article is a prime example. If you didn't watch the debate you would think by the headline that Obama was somehow the victor. I don't think so. It was a good evening for the listeners. They got to hear some of the issues for a change. Words do make a difference and it is not only politicans who use them. We have had some very good examples of people who were able to cause people to follow them by their command of the language. Some even have taken over countries and attempted to take over the world. We need to make sure we know who it is that we are following and why. When I see some of the anger being stirred by the press and others I wonder where we are heading. There was a govenor recently who threatened on one of the talk shows on Sunday that if his choice didn't get the nod there would be riots. I think it is time for everyone to step back and take a deep breath. It also is time for the press to start reporting the news. not making it.

  • Posted By: mpunfun @ 02/22/2008 11:57:32 PM

    I can live with either one -- I would be thrilled if they ran on the same ticket. I believe Barack Obama brings commitment, passion, youth and energy to the table and Hillary is an in your face fighter for what she believes in. Together, they would inspire us. If the voting continues at the present rate and Democrats are outvoting Republicand 3 and sometimes 4 to one, then it's a new day for America and I, for one, am happy to see it come. I will be SO relieved when Bush is gone.

  • Posted By: frjiles1 @ 02/22/2008 10:39:12 PM

    NEWSWEEK---Why haven't yall headlined Obama's Soldier Story yet?? I am LMAO!!

    • Posted By: Jrmapu @ 02/22/2008 10:43:13 PM

      Been there, done that. He's telling fairy tales again.

  • Posted By: Grandma B @ 02/22/2008 10:03:39 PM

    Marketingtruth seems to be Johnny-one-note. I live in Illinois and have for more than half of my long life. Mr. Obama had admitted to voting the wrong way. Oops! I really wanted to vote the other way. How many times?
    You don't get do overs in the White House. The gentleman needs more time to decide where he stands before taking the reigns of the most powerful nation in the world. By the way, who are these people behind him that he keeps refering to? Should he assend to the throne who is going to be pulling the strings? Any one know?

    • Posted By: Jrmapu @ 02/22/2008 10:25:30 PM

      Thank-you Grandma B. I always knew he was wishy washy. But the people want change. He has no clue yet thier following.

  • Posted By: J Druid @ 02/22/2008 10:12:22 PM

    The leaders of both the Republican and Democratic Parties are moving us closer and closer to Socialism, away from our Constitution (the true Test of American Patriotism). Both major parties pushed through the Patriot Act (a direct violation of our civil liberties) allowing the Federal government (and the lawmakers) greater access in to our personal lives. We have welfare, medicare, and medicaid, all basically federal government subsidies for Americans as a socialist distribution of wealth and commodities. Then, we have the continuation of undeclared War (a direct violation of our Constitution), allowing the President (or socialist leader) the ability to unilaterally decide whether our country (our Americans) go fight in another country using military resources and costing volunteer military lives.
    The very core values of America that the founding fathers of our country laid out for us are being destroyed, and our nation is moving in a perilous direction. The American people need to Wake up from their Slumber, and start helping educate their fellow Americans that we are not Socialists, but in fact we are a Nation of Patriots (people who live by and die for civil liberty as well as individual rights).
    Our country sorely needs a third party that will rejuvinate and unify the 40% of Americans that usually don't vote, to overcome the two party system of the Socialist Democrats and Socialist Republicans. Individuals always care for other individuals through charity and good deeds, the Federal government steals from individuals to line the pockets of the Corporations and maintain power for itself, leaving whatever remains recycled back to the American people.
    Stop sleep walking into Socialism --- Wake up and fight for our Founding Fathers core values of freedom and equality for all! Freedom from the Federal government intervention! Freedom from excessive taxation!

  • Posted By: J Druid @ 02/22/2008 10:11:36 PM

    "There's only "a dime's worth of difference" between the Republican and Democratic parties, and they're fighting over that dime! "
    Obama, Clinton, McCain, Huckabee --
    1. All voted to continue funding the Iraq War.
    2. All support "comprehensive immigration reform" -- Washington speak for Amnesty for illegal aliens. They want their big corporation buddies to be happy now don't they with their cheap labor. Meanwhile we pay higher taxes to offset the burden that would put on Social security, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare. If you subsidize something you get more of it, the more we subsidize illegal immigration the more we will get of it, and the more illegal alien families will be affected and hurt.
    3. All wish to enact some socialist program or another for the "greater good" -- Translation, we want you to pay higher taxes so we (the federal government) can spend it in the way that benefits our special interest group. Obama (Health care insurance companies), Clinton ( Pharmaceuticals), McCain (Military industrial complex including all military corporations), Huckabee (Military industrial complex).
    4. All are for reforming Washington and ridding it of government and lobbyist control (well so they say).
    5. All support the Patriot Act (a direct violation of our civil liberties)

  • Posted By: Jrmapu @ 02/22/2008 9:57:58 PM

    Okay here I go again. I want everyone, especially Hillary Rodham Clinton supporters, to pass this on.
    As a nation we have endured 20 years of ups and downs. The only difference is, the ups was when Bill Clinton was in office. We were prosperous and no one was trying to kill us or mocking our current President as America's greatest failure. I do agree we need change because the problems were not here only the last 20 years but the last 2008 years. Think about it, the males have been engaging our country in wars since the inception of the United States.
    We finally have women on the Supreme Court, the speaker of the house is a woman, women have positions of authority and they are doing a GREAT job.
    Its time for male dominance to step aside and allow a woman to lead the United States. Its not too late to do the right thing and vote for a woman who's voice is our voice. She knows the problems and can make the changes we need currently not down the road. I don't want to wait another 4 years while Obama learns how to use his fast pace brain to voice what we the people need.
    Her healthcare plan is solid, her foreign affairs skills are sharp, her economy plan is great to guide the US out of the recession we are slowly plummeting to, she uses her voice to fight for human rights, she has a plan to bring the troops home , and her experienced leadership skills are what America needs NOW. Its not too late to vote for the First Woman President who is more than qualified to lead this country to greatness. Remember the major states are Texas, Ohio, and Pennsylvania because they are the rich delegate states. But every state is a rich delegate state for Hillary Rodham Clinton.
    Every young girl will have hope to become what many women have been trying to do for years, prove they are worthy of position in a male dominant society .
    It is time for change but we need solutions so change can happen.

  • Posted By: dfgp247 @ 02/22/2008 9:18:59 PM

    I DO NOT AGREE!! Did anyone ever hear of "Groupthink"....look it up and explain it to the viewers! I wish that the media would stop with the 'slant'. I thought Hillary did a fine job and answered questions better than Obama, who stuttered a few times. He had a few answers that had some substance in them, but Hillary knew what she was talking about EVERY question. She came out ahead with answers that were definite plans and views! I like Hillary and many Ohioans like and believe in her too! I value her experience, and her husband's. Mr. Obama needs more experience to understand the Washington machine!

  • Posted By: dfgp247 @ 02/22/2008 9:17:54 PM

    I DO NOT AGREE!! Did anyone ever hear of "Groupthink"....look it up and explain it to the viewers! I wish that the media would stop with the 'slant'. I thought Hillary did a fine job and answered questions better than Obama, who stuttered a few times. He had a few answers that had some substance in them, but Hillary knew what she was talking about EVERY question. She came out ahead with answers that were definite plans and views! I like Hillary and many Ohioans like and believe in her too! I value her experience, and her husband's. Mr. Obama needs more experience to understand the Washington machine!

  • Posted By: Grandma B @ 02/22/2008 2:51:37 PM

    Don't you think that it is strange that the article points to Mr. Obama night. I think it was Hillary who got the standing ovation or was I watching another debate? The nastyness of the Obama supporters reminds me of the current White House occupant. " If you say anything against me, you are unpatriotic." Now it's if you say anything against me, you're a racist. How quickly we forget. I voted for this man in Illinois. I will not make that mistake again. His record here is a good example of what he will do. NOTHING but forward his personal ambitions.

    • Posted By: jmf_for_Obama08 @ 02/22/2008 9:01:14 PM

      He has done nothing? As the veterans at Walter Reed. See: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/clinton-obama_pillow_fight.html

  • Posted By: koinonia @ 02/22/2008 8:46:32 PM

    i am an African American who has been a supporter of Barack Obama since the moment he entered this race for president. I resonate particularly with the message of change that he espouses. Many people are hungry for a new direction after eight years of a meanspiritedness that has permeated not just our politics but the very fiber of our society. Words do matter. Words gave birth to our Nation. Words spoken by a president lifted this Nation from the agony and bitterness of a civil war. I think Obama touches a hunger in all Americans to be the kind of Nation that the framers of the Constitution hoped for, fought and died for. This is more than a dream but a vision that has the possibility of making us a better people and a better Nation

  • Posted By: rchouston @ 02/22/2008 8:36:10 PM

    I do feel that Hillary or Obama stand for what America is all about. We need health care for everyone in this country, not just for the privilaged. VOTE HILLARY or OBAMA to return America to the people.

  • Posted By: marketingtruth @ 02/22/2008 8:28:17 PM

    People who complain that Barack Obama lacks experience must be unaware of his legislative achievements. One reason these accomplishments are unfamiliar is that the media have not devoted enough attention to Obama's bills and the effort required to pass them, ignoring impressive, hard evidence of his character and ability.

    Since most of Obama's legislation was enacted in Illinois, most of the evidence is found there -- and it has been largely ignored by the media in a kind of Washington snobbery that assumes state legislatures are not to be taken seriously. (Another factor is reporters' fascination with the horse race at the expense of substance that they assume is boring, a fascination that despite being ridiculed for years continues to dominate political journalism.)

    I am a rarity among Washington journalists in that I have served in a state legislature. I know from my time in the West Virginia legislature that the challenges faced by reform-minded state representatives are no less, if indeed not more, formidable than those encountered in Congress. For me, at least, trying to deal with those challenges involved as much drama as any election. And the "heart and soul" bill, the one for which a legislator gives everything he or she has to get passed, has long told me more than anything else about a person's character and ability.
    By Charles Peter

  • Posted By: solvera @ 02/22/2008 8:22:04 PM

    After careful consideration of the facts I say we vote for Thor of the Asguard. Who's with me.

  • Posted By: True North @ 02/22/2008 3:08:40 PM

    Comeback? to what end. What numbers are you looking at, is actually winning and noone has told the other side. Are they waiting to break the news when it helps thjem the most? Wow I for one can not wait for this comeback it should a good one, hollywood I bet could not right a better script. By the way did anyone know that over the last 20years it has been either a Bush or a Clinton in the Whitehouse. So where is this change Hillary is tlaking about. Many of her campaign people are either long time friends of hers or Bills or have served them in some way in the, no pun intended. So where is this change we can believe in? Oh and her experience, from day one.. Just wher does that came from? Is it when she was in the whitehouse with bill passing all these laws and resolutions to the this country? I think not. Hasn't Obama been a public servant for all his adult life as well. Is Clinton more qualified than all the other highly respected senators and reps out there that have has more impact on the issue that drive this country, are we to say they are not qualified to run this country we love? I believe they are!! And how long has she been in the Senate since 2000 ?WOW what a long time.. what experience she has, man the change she can bring. She has less experience than many. Being in the senate and having an ex-pres as your spouse dose not qualify you be pesident more than someone else. Experience comes in many ways. Obama has what it takes to lead this nation. His years of public service in ILL in Washington if this is the standard, gives him just as much qualification as it does anyone else. I FOR ONE DO NOT WANT THE NUMBER OF YEARS A CLINTON OR BUSH HAS BEEN IT WHITEHOUSE TO RISE TO 24 IT WOULD BE SHAME AND CERTAINLY NO CHANGE AT ALL TO THE STATUS QUO!!!! CHANGE YOU CAN BELEIVE IN, IT COMES IN THE BODY OF SENATOR BARACK OBAMA, READY FROM DAY ONE , IT COMES IN THE CHARACTER OF SENATOR BARACK OBAMA. THIS COUNTRY NEEDS A GREAT LEADER SOMEONE THAT CAN PROPEL US INTO SOMETHING BETTER AND BIGGER THAN OURSELVES AND ULTIMATELY SAVE US FROM OURSELVES THAT LEADER IS SENATOR BARACK OBAMA. IT IS NOT GOING TO A BETTER PLACE FOR ANY OF US UNTIL IT IS FOR ALL OF US, IF OUR SENSE OF DOING WHAT IS RIGHT DOES NOT HELP US MAKE THE PROPER AND JUST DECISION THEN MAYBE OUR SENSE OF SELFISHNESS THAT WE CAN EFFECT CHANGE BY VOTING FOR THE ONE CANIDATE THAT CAN CHANGE ALL OUR LIVES AND THAT OF OUR CHILDREN WILL COME TO OUR RESCUE.

    • Posted By: Shadoe01 @ 02/22/2008 4:55:25 PM

      When a lot of Barack Obama's people are older senators and such and he has some of Bill Clinton's people on his team, where is all this freshness he is talking about?

      • Posted By: marketingtruth @ 02/22/2008 8:16:32 PM

        People who complain that Barack Obama lacks experience must be unaware of his legislative achievements. One reason these accomplishments are unfamiliar is that the media have not devoted enough attention to Obama's bills and the effort required to pass them, ignoring impressive, hard evidence of his character and ability.

        Since most of Obama's legislation was enacted in Illinois, most of the evidence is found there -- and it has been largely ignored by the media in a kind of Washington snobbery that assumes state legislatures are not to be taken seriously. (Another factor is reporters' fascination with the horse race at the expense of substance that they assume is boring, a fascination that despite being ridiculed for years continues to dominate political journalism.)

        I am a rarity among Washington journalists in that I have served in a state legislature. I know from my time in the West Virginia legislature that the challenges faced by reform-minded state representatives are no less, if indeed not more, formidable than those encountered in Congress. For me, at least, trying to deal with those challenges involved as much drama as any election. And the "heart and soul" bill, the one for which a legislator gives everything he or she has to get passed, has long told me more than anything else about a person's character and ability.

      • Posted By: LVNV @ 02/22/2008 6:37:15 PM

        Since when is teaming up with Sen. Ted Kennedy, who has been around longer than Sen. Clinton, considered change?

        • Posted By: Shadoe01 @ 02/22/2008 7:32:55 PM

          Yeah, just who I want on my team, a man who leaves someone to die in a car!

  • Posted By: MommyR @ 02/22/2008 2:59:34 PM

    Thank you Grandma E for stating exactly what I was thinkiing. I'm so sick of every web page, every news channel glorifying Mr Obama, and not stating the tuth here.

    • Posted By: marketingtruth @ 02/22/2008 8:14:28 PM

      People who complain that Barack Obama lacks experience must be unaware of his legislative achievements. One reason these accomplishments are unfamiliar is that the media have not devoted enough attention to Obama's bills and the effort required to pass them, ignoring impressive, hard evidence of his character and ability.

      Since most of Obama's legislation was enacted in Illinois, most of the evidence is found there -- and it has been largely ignored by the media in a kind of Washington snobbery that assumes state legislatures are not to be taken seriously. (Another factor is reporters' fascination with the horse race at the expense of substance that they assume is boring, a fascination that despite being ridiculed for years continues to dominate political journalism.)

      I am a rarity among Washington journalists in that I have served in a state legislature. I know from my time in the West Virginia legislature that the challenges faced by reform-minded state representatives are no less, if indeed not more, formidable than those encountered in Congress. For me, at least, trying to deal with those challenges involved as much drama as any election. And the "heart and soul" bill, the one for which a legislator gives everything he or she has to get passed, has long told me more than anything else about a person's character and ability.

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