Obamais1 you are pathetic. The point in fact is that Obama wasn't even a Senator when the vote came up about the Iraqi war. You can bet he would have voted the same as Hillary and others given the same misinformation provided to support Bush's battle cry -or are you old enough or informed enough to realize that. You know what they say about hind sight - doesn't even make him look righteous only inexperierenced. Obama is a nice enough guy and a rehearsed speaker -- just not ready for the White House. Texas is going to let him know that -- Hillary will make her comeback you wait and see..
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Posted By: Texas Sweetheart @ 02/22/2008 1:17:40 PM
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Posted By: marketingtruth @ 02/22/2008 8:08:19 PM
Comment: Comment: Hillary Clinton Goofs Again
A Commentary by Dick Morris
Who was it that defined neurosis as repeating the same mistake again and again, and expecting a better outcome each time? That???s really what the Clinton campaign is doing in its post-Chesapeake primary strategy. Now Hillary defines Obama as the candidate who makes speeches, while she is the one who provides ???answers??? and ???solutions.???
Why is Hillary embracing this new line? It???s not that she has any great record of solutions or answers of which to boast, but rather that she wants to highlight Obama???s lack of a legislative record. Once again, she and her campaign geniuses are making the same mistake they made when they decided to use the experience as their defining difference with Obama. It???s not that she had much, but they sensed an opportunity to highlight that he had even less.
Of course experience not only didn???t work. It backfired massively. By co-opting the experience tag, Hillary bought into the status quo and left Obama to be the agent of change. A candidacy that could have excited tens of millions of women, the first serious prospect of a female president, became merely a boring part of the status quo, shorn of its novelty.
Hillary???s claim to be the solution-person won???t work either for the same simple reason: She hasn???t passed any...she hasn???t walked the walk so now she cannot talk the talk.
As a first lady, Hillary???s sole important legislative involvement came during the first two years of her husband???s presidency when she sought to pass her ill-conceived health care reform, an effort that failed so miserably that it cost her party control of the House of Representatives for the first time in 40 years. Between 1995 to 1997, she was largely absent from the White House, traveling the world, promoting her best selling book and helping to raise funds. She never attended strategy meetings and her only intervention in the singular legislative achievements of Bill???s administration ??? welfare reform and the balanced budget deal ??? was privately to urge a veto of the former and to oppose the latter because it provided for a cut in the capital gains tax. Hillary returned to the White House in 1998 to oversee the defense to the Lewinsky scandal and the impeachment attempt, but the Clinton administration essentially folded its legislative efforts during those years and hung on for dear life. No portfolio of accomplishments there...
Her only actual legislation included one bill to increase nurse recruitment, another to aid respite time for Alzheimer???s care givers and another to expand veterans??? health benefits, a paltry output for six years??? service.
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Posted By: frjiles1 @ 02/22/2008 1:28:16 PM
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Posted By: obamais1 @ 02/22/2008 2:04:08 PM
Texas sweetheart: You are forgetting that ONE senator by the name of Chaffee voted against sending our troops to Iraq. He was the only senator who said...wait a minute, lets think this through. He was in the senate at the time....and when he went up for re-election he lost! You acting like you what Obama would have done is stupid...you don't the man so don't pretend to know how he would have voted. Maybe he would have sided with Chaffee and convince everyone to "hold on a minute." It was HRC's vote and she should be held accountable for it....and not use these wounded soldiers as a tactic to score political points. It's hypocritical and pathetic.
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Posted By: Texas Sweetheart @ 02/22/2008 2:39:15 PM
Once again, hindsight dreaming. Perhaps I am second guessing - but you are only doing the same thing on the other side --- imagining him standing up and saying no in the Senate. But you saying that I don't know how he would vote is precisely my point..... how could anyone know because of he has no real track record or experience.
And for the comment re: his Illinois state senante stance -- it is alot easier to grandstand in the State senate where there is nothing to be held accountable for than the US Senate, trust me.
The majority of us democrats while opposed to the war - hold our troops in high regard and utmost respect - how dare you say that Hillary created the pain of these soldiers and then used it for her political gain. You sound more like a Republican trying to pretend that they are the only ones patriotic.
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Posted By: AJCole @ 02/22/2008 2:07:38 PM
Actually, Obama's stance on the war is not hind sight. As an Illinois senator, he went against the majority of the public opinion and spoke out against Invading Iraq. He did so publicly, it is on video. And it took courage to do so. I say this knowing that, though I am against the war then, I was not against it at the time, so for me hind sight is 20/20 - Obama saw before what I only saw after.
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Posted By: lesane @ 02/22/2008 1:27:48 PM
Yes we will see--what makes you ready for the white house--apparently nothing--they thought bush was ready----as Americans lets try something different and see how it goes but what is the worst that could happen--a war with Iran---
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Posted By: pixiepunk @ 02/22/2008 1:21:19 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that Obama was NOT a member of congress when they voted to go to war with Iraq. Therefore, it's very easy for him to criticize someone who had to make that hard decision given the evidence that was presented to congress at the time. I wonder if he had been in congress if he would have made the same decision. It's very easy to be critical of a decision you didn't have to make!!
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Posted By: frjiles1 @ 02/22/2008 1:27:09 PM
HALLELUJAH!!!!!!! It is about time someone pointed that out!
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Posted By: JJetson @ 02/22/2008 2:06:07 PM
No, Obama was not a member of Congress at the time, he was and Illinois State Senator at the time, about to begin his run for US Senate when he came out in opposition to the war. This is what is written on Widepedia on this issue:
"Obama was an early opponent of Bush administration policies on Iraq.[102] On October 2, 2002, the day Bush and Congress agreed on the joint resolution authorizing the Iraq War,[103] Obama addressed the first high-profile Chicago anti-Iraq War rally in Federal Plaza,[104] saying:
I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of Al Qaeda. I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars.[105]
On March 16, 2003, the day Bush issued his 48-hour ultimatum to Saddam Hussein to leave Iraq before the U.S. invasion of Iraq,[106] Obama addressed the largest Chicago anti-Iraq War rally to date in Daley Plaza and told the crowd "It's not too late" to stop the war."
Obama was against the war when it was unpopular to be agasint the war. Clinton, on the other hand, put her finger to the political winds and voted for the war, as she wanted to appear tough on national security in advance of her thusfar ill-fated run for President. She won't admit her mistake (just like Bush). Hell, she never read the intelligence report - just got a summary of same from her staff, prior to voting to our men and women on the front lines.
Do more research, and you'll come to the conclusion that Obama is the best to lead this nation. Go Obama
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Posted By: Shadoe01 @ 02/22/2008 7:04:50 PM
Oh yeah, let us not forget that he wants to bomb Pakistan. And as stated previously, you have no idea what he would have voted if he had to vote - oh I forgot he does not know how to vote!
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Posted By: marketingtruth @ 02/22/2008 8:07:21 PM
Comment: Comment: Hillary Clinton Goofs Again
A Commentary by Dick Morris
Who was it that defined neurosis as repeating the same mistake again and again, and expecting a better outcome each time? That???s really what the Clinton campaign is doing in its post-Chesapeake primary strategy. Now Hillary defines Obama as the candidate who makes speeches, while she is the one who provides ???answers??? and ???solutions.???
Why is Hillary embracing this new line? It???s not that she has any great record of solutions or answers of which to boast, but rather that she wants to highlight Obama???s lack of a legislative record. Once again, she and her campaign geniuses are making the same mistake they made when they decided to use the experience as their defining difference with Obama. It???s not that she had much, but they sensed an opportunity to highlight that he had even less.
Of course experience not only didn???t work. It backfired massively. By co-opting the experience tag, Hillary bought into the status quo and left Obama to be the agent of change. A candidacy that could have excited tens of millions of women, the first serious prospect of a female president, became merely a boring part of the status quo, shorn of its novelty.
Hillary???s claim to be the solution-person won???t work either for the same simple reason: She hasn???t passed any...she hasn???t walked the walk so now she cannot talk the talk.
As a first lady, Hillary???s sole important legislative involvement came during the first two years of her husband???s presidency when she sought to pass her ill-conceived health care reform, an effort that failed so miserably that it cost her party control of the House of Representatives for the first time in 40 years. Between 1995 to 1997, she was largely absent from the White House, traveling the world, promoting her best selling book and helping to raise funds. She never attended strategy meetings and her only intervention in the singular legislative achievements of Bill???s administration ??? welfare reform and the balanced budget deal ??? was privately to urge a veto of the former and to oppose the latter because it provided for a cut in the capital gains tax. Hillary returned to the White House in 1998 to oversee the defense to the Lewinsky scandal and the impeachment attempt, but the Clinton administration essentially folded its legislative efforts during those years and hung on for dear life. No portfolio of accomplishments there...
Her only actual legislation included one bill to increase nurse recruitment, another to aid respite time for Alzheimer???s care givers and another to expand veterans??? health benefits, a paltry output for six years??? service.
In her second term, she has spent full-time campaigning for president and has the worst attendance record of the three senators now still in the presidential race.
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Posted By: maxboy @ 02/22/2008 2:31:00 PM
I agree with you pixiepunk. These media is so biased against Hillary it is unimagineable. They never point out Hillay got 12 endorsements from labor unions but the 'yard ape' carsalesman, gets two it's all over CNN. Does media ever ask him tough question? You know why they don't want to be laleled 'as so-called racist'. His wife says horrible things about this country does media ever her any question. Media made a 'mesiah' out of the 'ape' who is going to restore america. Hey, I like the way it is. Of course, I will whine if I was looking for handouts so I can make babies from differnt guys out of wedlock and need after school program all those free stuff, and stay on welfare. He is promising exactly to do that. He is nothing but talk and talk your ear off with no substance. You want this guy who does not show pledge of allegience to this country and his
ugly wife does not love this country until now? You want this guy who is endorsed by Radican Moslems? You want this guy who was constantly harrasing Hillary. Look at the endorsements he got from the losers like Kerry and Kennedy. Bill did so much for his people he can't even imagine doing that in his life time. And Media calls him "racist"? Look what happened to the people that tried to ignore Bill Clinton; they are all in 'losers list'. I hope McCain beat he hell out of him. I will never ever vote for the carsalesman. You people say 'he is against the war. Do you know he was not even in Illinois senate to vote 'yes or no'. This man is a danger to this country. And how is he going to pay for the promises he is making? With his Face?-
Posted By: marketingtruth @ 02/22/2008 8:02:07 PM
Comment: Comment: Hillary Clinton Goofs Again
A Commentary by Dick Morris
Who was it that defined neurosis as repeating the same mistake again and again, and expecting a better outcome each time? That???s really what the Clinton campaign is doing in its post-Chesapeake primary strategy. Now Hillary defines Obama as the candidate who makes speeches, while she is the one who provides ???answers??? and ???solutions.???
Why is Hillary embracing this new line? It???s not that she has any great record of solutions or answers of which to boast, but rather that she wants to highlight Obama???s lack of a legislative record. Once again, she and her campaign geniuses are making the same mistake they made when they decided to use the experience as their defining difference with Obama. It???s not that she had much, but they sensed an opportunity to highlight that he had even less.
Of course experience not only didn???t work. It backfired massively. By co-opting the experience tag, Hillary bought into the status quo and left Obama to be the agent of change. A candidacy that could have excited tens of millions of women, the first serious prospect of a female president, became merely a boring part of the status quo, shorn of its novelty.
Hillary???s claim to be the solution-person won???t work either for the same simple reason: She hasn???t passed any...she hasn???t walked the walk so now she cannot talk the talk.
As a first lady, Hillary???s sole important legislative involvement came during the first two years of her husband???s presidency when she sought to pass her ill-conceived health care reform, an effort that failed so miserably that it cost her party control of the House of Representatives for the first time in 40 years. Between 1995 to 1997, she was largely absent from the White House, traveling the world, promoting her best selling book and helping to raise funds. She never attended strategy meetings and her only intervention in the singular legislative achievements of Bill???s administration ??? welfare reform and the balanced budget deal ??? was privately to urge a veto of the former and to oppose the latter because it provided for a cut in the capital gains tax. Hillary returned to the White House in 1998 to oversee the defense to the Lewinsky scandal and the impeachment attempt, but the Clinton administration essentially folded its legislative efforts during those years and hung on for dear life. No portfolio of accomplishments there...
Her only actual legislation included one bill to increase nurse recruitment, another to aid respite time for Alzheimer???s care givers and another to expand veterans??? health benefits, a paltry output for six years??? service.
In her second term, she has spent full-time campaigning for president and has the worst attendance record of the three senators now still in the presidential race. -
Posted By: swdemocratforchange @ 02/22/2008 2:43:06 PM
I think that people like you are a danger to this country....isn't there a planet that you might go to and stay-permanently???? Please.....
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Posted By: TexasRocker @ 02/22/2008 5:46:49 PM
I would like to add the unfortunate, unabashed strategy openly discussed by Karl Rove on FOX concerning repuplicans crossing over in open primaries and caucuses to support Obama. It's a shame the system is being gamed by the rebuplicans to NOT have to face the most qualified candidate. It is obvious who the republicans are afraid of: Sen. Clinton.
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Posted By: LVNV @ 02/22/2008 6:30:36 PM
I totally agree with you and this subject has been on my mind since the caucuses started. Practically all of the news media is run by Republicans and they are gloating over Obama and are very biased in their coverage. While the Obama camp welcomes the "cross-over" Republicans with open arms, their camp is naive and their inexperience is showing if they believe these same Republicans will vote for a Democrat in the general election. The Republicans hate Hillary Clinton because they know they can not beat her. They will chew up Obama and laugh all the way to the whitehouse. You are correct about the Republicans being afraid of Sen. Clinton and I wish more people were aware of Karl Rove's new style of "swiftboating".
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Posted By: manbatch @ 02/22/2008 7:09:53 PM
I think this argument that suggests that all these republicans who are crossing party lines are somehow part of a plot to take down Obama during the general election appears to be far-fetched to me. There's a very simple way to explain Obama's success throughout this campaign. The man has been well organized from the very beginning and has worked hard to reach out to as many people as possible, unlike Hillary Clinton who in many instances miscalculated crucial moments in this election. But I understand how you come to perceive the media as bias since all they have been doing is reporting what nobody had anticipated: Obama skillfully taking over this election.
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Posted By: Shadoe01 @ 02/22/2008 7:28:31 PM
Are you that ignorant that you think the red states are going to vote for Obama?
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Posted By: marketingtruth @ 02/22/2008 7:59:16 PM
Comment: Comment: Hillary Clinton Goofs Again
A Commentary by Dick Morris
Who was it that defined neurosis as repeating the same mistake again and again, and expecting a better outcome each time? That???s really what the Clinton campaign is doing in its post-Chesapeake primary strategy. Now Hillary defines Obama as the candidate who makes speeches, while she is the one who provides ???answers??? and ???solutions.???
Why is Hillary embracing this new line? It???s not that she has any great record of solutions or answers of which to boast, but rather that she wants to highlight Obama???s lack of a legislative record. Once again, she and her campaign geniuses are making the same mistake they made when they decided to use the experience as their defining difference with Obama. It???s not that she had much, but they sensed an opportunity to highlight that he had even less.
Of course experience not only didn???t work. It backfired massively. By co-opting the experience tag, Hillary bought into the status quo and left Obama to be the agent of change. A candidacy that could have excited tens of millions of women, the first serious prospect of a female president, became merely a boring part of the status quo, shorn of its novelty.
Hillary???s claim to be the solution-person won???t work either for the same simple reason: She hasn???t passed any...she hasn???t walked the walk so now she cannot talk the talk.
As a first lady, Hillary???s sole important legislative involvement came during the first two years of her husband???s presidency when she sought to pass her ill-conceived health care reform, an effort that failed so miserably that it cost her party control of the House of Representatives for the first time in 40 years. Between 1995 to 1997, she was largely absent from the White House, traveling the world, promoting her best selling book and helping to raise funds. She never attended strategy meetings and her only intervention in the singular legislative achievements of Bill???s administration ??? welfare reform and the balanced budget deal ??? was privately to urge a veto of the former and to oppose the latter because it provided for a cut in the capital gains tax. Hillary returned to the White House in 1998 to oversee the defense to the Lewinsky scandal and the impeachment attempt, but the Clinton administration essentially folded its legislative efforts during those years and hung on for dear life. No portfolio of accomplishments there...
Her only actual legislation included one bill to increase nurse recruitment, another to aid respite time for Alzheimer???s care givers and another to expand veterans??? health benefits, a paltry output for six years??? service.
In her second term, she has spent full-time campaigning for president and has the worst attendance record of the three senators now still in the presidential race.
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Posted By: marketingtruth @ 02/22/2008 7:58:13 PM
Comment: Comment: Hillary Clinton Goofs Again
A Commentary by Dick Morris
Who was it that defined neurosis as repeating the same mistake again and again, and expecting a better outcome each time? That???s really what the Clinton campaign is doing in its post-Chesapeake primary strategy. Now Hillary defines Obama as the candidate who makes speeches, while she is the one who provides ???answers??? and ???solutions.???
Why is Hillary embracing this new line? It???s not that she has any great record of solutions or answers of which to boast, but rather that she wants to highlight Obama???s lack of a legislative record. Once again, she and her campaign geniuses are making the same mistake they made when they decided to use the experience as their defining difference with Obama. It???s not that she had much, but they sensed an opportunity to highlight that he had even less.
Of course experience not only didn???t work. It backfired massively. By co-opting the experience tag, Hillary bought into the status quo and left Obama to be the agent of change. A candidacy that could have excited tens of millions of women, the first serious prospect of a female president, became merely a boring part of the status quo, shorn of its novelty.
Hillary???s claim to be the solution-person won???t work either for the same simple reason: She hasn???t passed any...she hasn???t walked the walk so now she cannot talk the talk.
As a first lady, Hillary???s sole important legislative involvement came during the first two years of her husband???s presidency when she sought to pass her ill-conceived health care reform, an effort that failed so miserably that it cost her party control of the House of Representatives for the first time in 40 years. Between 1995 to 1997, she was largely absent from the White House, traveling the world, promoting her best selling book and helping to raise funds. She never attended strategy meetings and her only intervention in the singular legislative achievements of Bill???s administration ??? welfare reform and the balanced budget deal ??? was privately to urge a veto of the former and to oppose the latter because it provided for a cut in the capital gains tax. Hillary returned to the White House in 1998 to oversee the defense to the Lewinsky scandal and the impeachment attempt, but the Clinton administration essentially folded its legislative efforts during those years and hung on for dear life. No portfolio of accomplishments there...
Her only actual legislation included one bill to increase nurse recruitment, another to aid respite time for Alzheimer???s care givers and another to expand veterans??? health benefits, a paltry output for six years??? service.
In her second term, she has spent full-time campaigning for president and has the worst attendance record of the three senators now still in the presidential race.
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Posted By: obamais1 @ 02/22/2008 12:54:29 PM
I wonder if Hillary realizes that those maimed and burnt soldiers she spoke about are the result of her poor judgement and vote to send them to war so wrecklessly. Her saying "oops, if I knew then what I know now..." is unexceptable. And for her to sit there on national television and exploit these soldiers to score points in a debate when everyone knows she holds responsiblitiy for their state of being is PATHETIC!
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Posted By: JJetson @ 02/22/2008 2:15:01 PM
Well said - she admits she didn't read the full Intelligence Report - she relied on her staffers to give her the highlights - IS THIS WHAT WE WANT FOR A FUTURE COMMANDER IN CHIEF???? Think about it people - REALLY think about it.
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Posted By: Shadoe01 @ 02/22/2008 7:09:02 PM
You two need to get real and learn the facts, Bush lied to everyone and they could only go on what information they had. Even his reports were full of lies so they would not have made any difference at all. Given what we were told, there would have been very few if any of us who would not have voted to go to war including the almighty Obama.
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Posted By: Johnny at Work @ 02/22/2008 8:52:31 AM
Check out Tim Russert catching Obama in Obamas lie about being racist - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQY_9ZcsjpQ&feature=related%3cbr
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Posted By: Time for Change @ 02/22/2008 6:59:22 PM
Last attempt to win the election, Eh? Do you realize he is half white himself and have white and Indonesian family members?
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Posted By: darkeknight @ 02/22/2008 2:06:48 PM
Umm, Texas Sweetheart, you forget that he was an Illinois State Senator for eight years before that so had the platform to speak against the war before that. Dont try to act like he was some guy off the street speaking against the war. Again, learn your facts!
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Posted By: Shadoe01 @ 02/22/2008 6:58:04 PM
If was in fact a senator at the time of the vote, why did't he vote? Oh, I know he does not know how to!
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Posted By: cowen123456 @ 02/22/2008 9:30:23 AM
can you say....Newsweek is bias! Please, to conclude without knowing the larger public thinks that Obama won the debate last night is arrogant. What? because your newspaper say so so it must be true. I watched the debate and saw that Hillary was the intelligence, knowledgable one when it comes to cuban and foreign policies. She was the credible one when it comes to healthcare and she was the real one when it comes to the last question on the night on adversity. While obama used the last question to talk about how all the community service he did along with lawyering is what prepared him for the presidency...HIllary went to the heart of the question and explain how advsersity means little when comparing to the millions of soldiers and americans that struggle much worst then her everyday. Obama came off arrogant and without him regurgitation other's words, he appeared plaine and mediocre. I felt him to be way naive in foreign policy and that is a very scary thing for me. That in itself alone should be enough reasons not put him in the presidency....this position is not something americans can roll- the dice on. And with the comment about him copying others speeches. I must say that Obama planted enough supporters there to mocked her when she pointed out the obvious. Of course if a man made that statement then it would be all over the media this morning as 'Witty' and direct. However, it was the woman that pointed the obvious so she is once again called, nasty and having bad taste. The double standards and sexist male dominated media continues to suppress this woman's chances. I am amaze at how far she has come even against such odds. To be a woman holding herself steady in a male domininated world and media forum and still remaining at this point is a testiment to how strong, persistent and incredibly amazing Hillary is. Hillary will get my vote and it will be because she is a woman but because she is possibly the strongest person with character I have ever seen running for the presidency.
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Posted By: hillaryforpresident!!! @ 02/22/2008 5:04:45 PM
Thank you cowen!!! Trust me, most of the people on here did not watch last nights debate and have never watched a debate from the two or listened to their speeches! Otherwise, they would see the same thing we have: One competant Presidential hopeful compared to one IN-competant Presidential hopeful!
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Posted By: Time for Change @ 02/22/2008 6:55:43 PM
Obama Incompetent? He sure ran his campaign much better than she did. So what does that make her? Ran out of money, several staff turn overs, and now trying to catch up to Obama. You may also want to google the story by New York Times on other ways she mismanaged her campaign.
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Posted By: truth be told @ 02/22/2008 12:06:23 PM
you're a very funny person! i've never laughed so hard in my life reading your blog.
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Posted By: Suzy Carmichael @ 02/22/2008 6:39:01 PM
Barack Obama must be a talented chess player as well as poker player because he strategically anticipated Hillary Clinton's every move. Barack Obama knows that people are smart whereas Hillary Clinton blows smoke up our a***. Hillary Clinton is however very talented fighter. She has been fighting herself this entire time, while Barack Obama graciously lets her.
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Posted By: Suzy Carmichael @ 02/22/2008 6:33:38 PM
Barack Obama must be a talented chess player as well as poker player because he was able to anticipate Hillary Clinton's every move. The thing is people are smart, the only thing the voters see is that she is a talented fighter, in fighting herself and he graciously let her do it.
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Posted By: OKRA_EATER @ 02/22/2008 5:55:02 PM
It's so funny that this off the cuff emotional moment for Hillary, when even us Obamaniacs take pause and say wow she is a real person, ends up being this preplanned, manipulative strategy to fake viewers out. Just moments later her campaign mgr is defining that moment for the press. This is just another example of "do anything, say anything".
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Posted By: megatherium @ 02/22/2008 5:31:46 PM
bdiaz you are absolutely correct .... the applause was for both candidates... I also agree that Hillary comes across as very disengenuous...
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Posted By: bdiaz @ 02/22/2008 5:13:12 PM
I don't know why everyone thinks Clinton recieved the standing ovation at the end. The audiance clearly thought the debate was over and where applauding both candidates. Why would the same audiance that bood Sen. Clinton turn around and give here a standing ovation at the end. Her closing words where not that good. Give me a break
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Posted By: Cathryn @ 02/22/2008 4:53:15 PM
She really carries hard nose to a fault -- though nobody but her campaign managers seem to agree with her plagiarism claims, I wonder if she actually "got it" when she was booed last night. She was schoolyard; he was presidential.
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Posted By: ex-clinton supporter @ 02/22/2008 2:14:02 PM
Comment: Clinton(s), go away. It' someone else's turn...
FYI, isn't it funny how Clinton is repeating her New Hampshire strategy? Criticize the media for not scrutinizing Obama, show her "soft" side (be it tears or an impassioned partly plagiarized speech), and ta-da, victory. For someone who claims to be a leader in women's rights, she is using her "soft" side a lot, lately.-
Posted By: hillaryforpresident!!! @ 02/22/2008 4:47:16 PM
OMG, you petty people will bash her for anything!!! First she is too soft, then she is too hard, make up your mind, lol!!!
Hey, I am all for giving someone else a shot, as long as they can prove their competance prior to taking that seat and so far, Barack has proven nothing to me except that he would make a wonderful preacher!!!
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Posted By: M.Elle @ 02/22/2008 3:10:33 PM
I'm glad you mentioned that Hillary plagiarized, but where is the big news story on Newsweek. CNN did a separate piece on this as have others. I think it would be fair to devote the same attention to this that people used to discuss Obama's use of Deval Patrick's speeches.
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Posted By: jbizzy @ 02/22/2008 4:39:33 PM
Old scout, your comments are refreshing to see that someone understands the bigger picture. All this hate and insults of culture won't matter 2050. The espanic culture will be the majority in America. It was good to see the the anchor for Univision questioning the candidates on the be half of his people. That was a cool twist to the debate. A lot of people have mention that if Obama is the nominee then they will vote for McCain. I guess they feel that McCain politics are better or maybe his skin color is right. My vote will go to the Democratic party. Whether it is Hillary or Obama, I support the party. We have a lot of SELL OUTS in this Party and they know the reasons why.
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Posted By: megatherium @ 02/22/2008 4:37:13 PM
If Hillary can't run her camapain finances, then what chance does she have to fix the economy and the government budget. She's a flip-flopping "whatever you want me to be" desperate politician that would do anything to be elected. All she talks about is fighting and taking punches -- its a style that has made her ineffective. We need new blood in Washington and a positive approach toward making change -- I'll give her credit that she has tried (eg health care) but fails miserably because of her style. Obama is the best thing we've had since the 1960's -- he's our best shot at restoring this country...
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Posted By: letschangeamerica @ 02/22/2008 4:37:08 PM
PPatrick29, I really think you should learn to spell before you vote for anyone.
letschangeamerica
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Posted By: susan111 @ 02/22/2008 11:26:27 AM
February 22, 2008
An extraordinary moment occurred last night during the Democratic Presidential Debate; a moment that is unprecedented in the history of those debates. The audience of friends and foes alike rose in unison in an ovation of emotion for Hillary Clinton. They were moved by her graciousness towards Barack Obama when she spoke about how honored she has been to run the race with him. They were moved by her sincere compassion and concern for those less fortunate than she; by her humility in recognizing that while she has had difficult times hers do not compare to many of our wounded soldiers, their families, and other hurting families and children in America. In that extraordinary moment her honesty and vulnerability united a deeply divided, polarized, and often cynical group.
Senator Hillary Clinton is a true uniter. Her opposition says that Hillary is unelectable because she is too polarizing. Last nights event refutes that idea.
She has all the attributes necessary to be our next Commander in Chief. She has the work ethic, the strength, the experience, the resilience coupled with the compassion, integrity, maturity, and true grit needed to lead us in this time of great need. Hillary is a compassionate fighter. She will be an exceptional President of the United States.
February 22, 2008
An extraordinary moment occurred last night during the Democratic Presidential Debate; a moment that is unprecedented in the history of those debates. The audience of friends and foes alike rose in unison in an ovation of emotion for Hillary Clinton. They were moved by her graciousness towards Barack Obama when she spoke about how honored she has been to run the race with him. They were moved by her sincere compassion and concern for those less fortunate than she; by her humility in recognizing that while she has had difficult times hers do not compare to many of our wounded soldiers, their families, and other hurting families and children in America. In that extraordinary moment her honesty and vulnerability united a deeply divided, polarized, and often cynical group.
Senator Hillary Clinton is a true uniter. Her opposition says that Hillary is unelectable because she is too polarizing. Last nights event refutes that idea.
She has all the attributes necessary to be our next Commander in Chief. She has the work ethic, the strength, the experience, the resilience coupled with the compassion, integrity, maturity, and true grit needed to lead us in this time of great need. Hillary is a compassionate fighter. She will be an exceptional President of the United States.-
Posted By: BigHornMtnBoy @ 02/22/2008 4:26:46 PM
She got a standing ovation because it sounded as if she may be waking up to the inevitablity of her not getting the nomination. Then her camp puts out some garbage about that moment showing how she is going to be great leader. Give us a break!
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Posted By: JJetson @ 02/22/2008 2:29:55 PM
Spare me, please. The only thing Hillary is capable of uniting is Republicans
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Posted By: Time for Change @ 02/22/2008 11:50:18 AM
Are you serious? She totally bombed on that Cmmander-in-Cheif question. Furthermore, last night she only confirmed the opinion of her being a polarizing figure. Some of us are not easily fooled by her "emotional" moments right before a crucial election. Most of us tuned in to see a debate not a highschool fight. You did not just write this comment to convince others about Hillary's personality and capabilities, I think your'e trying to convince yourself!
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Posted By: swdemocratforchange @ 02/22/2008 11:57:18 AM
She never even answered the Commander-in-Chief question....she only gave comments about why she's ready to be president on Day 1. I think in some ways, she feels entitled to the job, because of her husband and all of the embarrassment and shame that she had to go thru with the former president, which is not a good enough reason to vote for her now.
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Posted By: frjiles1 @ 02/22/2008 12:53:10 PM
I TOTALLY AGREE! She did bomb the commander in chief question. That was her opportunity to point out why she would be a better President than Obama. I think she was concerned about the backlash but who cares? The Media and Anti Hillary people along with Obama supporters are going to drag her thru the mud anyways....so she should have hit that question with full force.
Maybe she will during the final debate.
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Posted By: mhoffman2200 @ 02/22/2008 12:02:17 PM
Do you realize they were standing because it was the end of the debate?
Do you also realize that she "xeroxed" the 2 phrases from her husband and John Edwards? Those who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones....-
Posted By: frjiles1 @ 02/22/2008 12:49:03 PM
Actually, I think the people stood up because of her ending comment and NOT because it was the end of the debate but I am sure you along with the political analyst will argue differently..
And you are so correct, people who live in glass houses should not throw stones but she wasn't throwing stones. She did not call him out using a phrase or quoting someone. We all have done that. We all have taken ideas from other people however, it is a HUGE difference to take a phrase and change it up versus taking a speech from someone else saying the EXACT same thing as that person and then trying to pass it off as your own. That is Xeroxing...........the Media isn't going to make it a big deal UNTIL he gets the nomination but it is a BIG DEAL particularly when your campaign is based on change. How is taking someone else's exact speech change? That goes to character and you can believe more coverage will be on this topic after he is the nominee.
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