A Hole in McCain’s Defense?

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  • Posted By: Sam Huff @ 02/22/2008 8:14:44 PM

    arkay, do you really compare your "zoning request" to that of a Lobbyist in Washington who sends a Female to gain the favor of a Senator to win favor for a rule that will make the lobbyist and those he lobbies for much more money than your local request. Your scale of camparison is fallacious. Just think of the example to which you have compared Washington Lobbying activities. Maybe there should be no Lobbies and just a few phone calls to make sure your issue is addressed. Don't be naieve, arkay. Lobbies are big buisness and pay big money to get access to the elected officials who can help them. They do not work with the "local zoning board" like you would compare them towho they lobby.

    • Posted By: ISawYourMommy @ 02/22/2008 8:39:25 PM

      It should be obvioius that he really compares the two. And the only difference between the two is of magnitude. But the point is the same: there is nothing wrong with asking your governmental representative to further your interests. That's what they are there to do: serve constituents.

      • Posted By: tc125231 @ 02/22/2008 10:05:46 PM

        No fool, they are they to serve the best interests of the majority of their constituents --that is, the nation. Even a crime boss serves members of his tribe.

        • Posted By: ISawYourMommy @ 02/22/2008 10:39:34 PM

          Ah, a civics lesson. Meaning, you need to take one. There were, at the time of the founding of our country, two schools of thought on this. One held what you hold: that our government is supposed to serve what it believes our best interests to be. The other held that our government is supposed to do what we want it to do. Hence, two Houses. The Senate was created to follow your version, the House the other. But don't you see the inherent condescension in your view? It assumes that the populace cannot make decisions on its own, that it's too stupid.

          Thanks to people like you, that view may be right.

          Back to school with you.

  • Posted By: J Druid @ 02/22/2008 10:32:46 PM

    The leaders of both the Republican and Democratic Parties are moving us closer and closer to Socialism, away from our Constitution (the true Test of American Patriotism). Both major parties pushed through the Patriot Act (a direct violation of our civil liberties) allowing the Federal government (and the lawmakers) greater access in to our personal lives. We have welfare, medicare, and medicaid, all basically federal government subsidies for Americans as a socialist distribution of wealth and commodities. Then, we have the continuation of undeclared War (a direct violation of our Constitution), allowing the President (or socialist leader) the ability to unilaterally decide whether our country (our Americans) go fight in another country using military resources and costing volunteer military lives.
    The very core values of America that the founding fathers of our country laid out for us are being destroyed, and our nation is moving in a perilous direction. The American people need to Wake up from their Slumber, and start helping educate their fellow Americans that we are not Socialists, but in fact we are a Nation of Patriots (people who live by and die for civil liberty as well as individual rights).
    Our country sorely needs a third party that will rejuvinate and unify the 40% of Americans that usually don't vote, to overcome the two party system of the Socialist Democrats and Socialist Republicans. Individuals always care for other individuals through charity and good deeds, the Federal government steals from individuals to line the pockets of the Corporations and maintain power for itself, leaving whatever remains recycled back to the American people.
    Stop sleep walking into Socialism --- Wake up and fight for our Founding Fathers core values of freedom and equality for all! Freedom from the Federal government intervention! Freedom from excessive taxation!

  • Posted By: abe4600 @ 02/22/2008 10:19:54 PM

    Let???s see, he favors staying in Iraq for 100 more years, McBush tax cuts for those making over $250 K, chases lobbyist skirts. He has a combination of bad qualities of the past two Presidents that we can do without. My Friends, he???s cooked!

    • Posted By: ISawYourMommy @ 02/22/2008 10:24:19 PM

      On the back of your computer is a cord that leads to the wall. Follow it to the wall and unplug it. Then, put the whole computer back in the box in which it came and take it back to the store. You're too stupid to use it.

  • Posted By: bigbrewhaha @ 02/22/2008 9:37:40 PM

    This election season has nothing to do with platforms and politics it???s merely a case study in generational ideologies. It seems to me a lot people can't seem to wrap their head around the fact that younger generations do not put up with ignorant obsolete sanctimonious old people because we don???t have to. You guys (i.e. ignorant, prejudiced, scared of everyone that isn???t white and speaks english fogeys)???.(republicans) do nothing but get in the way of progress, oh and by the way in case your didn???t realize it yet it isn???t your country anymore, it???s ours now. You guys (you know who you are, see above if you are confused) have, since day one made decisions based on fears and prejudices that your parents believed in or maybe a preacher taught you or perhaps were generally accepted in the time period when you grew up, I???m sorry but we just don't do that anymore you guys are done and if you don???t think so you will have your pompous high and mighty name run through the mud until you understand that you are nothing more than a regular flawed person just like the rest of us. People in their 20's and 30's and 40???s are not going to vote for McCain for one simple reason, fear tactics don???t work on us, sorry Mac. You guys will never get it and you need to, you see pious right wing evangelical fear mongering is over with now. It was like communism, sure it had its heyday, and it worked when people were poor and ignorant, but had no staying power because its success was dependent on keeping people stupid and afraid. Consider swallowing that big bitter pill of reality and recognize (as soon as possible) that hating, killing, prejudice, and bigotry was a defining characteristics of YOUR generation not ours. Your time has passed.

  • Posted By: The Thinking Woman @ 02/22/2008 9:32:26 PM

    Does it really matter if McCain spoke to Paxson and/or Iseman himself or if it was McCain's staff members who spoke to Paxson and/or Iseman? Regardless of whom spoke to whom, the outcome was the same, McCain simply wrote a letter to the FCC requesting that they get off their backsides and make a decision on this case. Isn't the FCC and their diddle dawdling the bad guys here?? Who else in the world get to take two years to do a job before them? I think this Newsweek article is doing their best to pick nits about NOTHING of substance. And the New York Times piece is so laughable it belongs in The Onion. Could we please get some quality reporting on the issues that concern us right now!! In case you've forgotten, it's 2008, not 1999.

    • Posted By: ISawYourMommy @ 02/22/2008 9:34:45 PM

      Thank you. Clarity at last, in a system that's awash in stupidity.

  • Posted By: Oldcrank @ 02/22/2008 9:12:25 PM

    eabg,
    You speak of "scum" personal injury lawyers. If quacks didn't injure their patients there would be no need for personal injury lawyers. A patient who is injured by medical neglect or incompetence is entitled to damages. Obviously juries agree. I agree that tort reform is necessary, but everybody is entitled to recover damages under the law, for whatever reason.

    • Posted By: ISawYourMommy @ 02/22/2008 9:20:22 PM

      Choo-Choo!

      All Aboard!

      The Idiot Train is leaving the station.

      Everyone's entitled to damages, whatever the reason? People may be entitled to damages when they are injured, but "whatever the reason" is an absurd proposition on your part. So are you saying that I am entitled to damages from you if I slip on my sidewalk and hurt myself? Of course your not. You may be on the Idiot Train but you're not the engineer. That's reserved for Barbie Blaze.

  • Posted By: eabg_22 @ 02/22/2008 7:58:52 PM

    Two words that will make this all seem like an afterthought......Larry Sinclair

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 02/22/2008 9:10:31 PM

      I want to know more about this Larry Sinclair incident. Tell us more.

    • Posted By: jaymiller @ 02/22/2008 8:57:32 PM

      Laughable. Do you truly believe that if this stupidity had any legs that every media source would be all over it?

      • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 02/22/2008 9:08:00 PM

        jaymiller-Hussein has so many "items of interest" it is about to be laughable. The GOP is licking its chops. Even Karl Rove admitted a couple of days ago that a groundswell of Republicans have been voting for him, to try and insure his nomination, I don't like the idea, but thats politics.

        Gonna get really UGLY before its all said and done.

        NOBAMA!!!

  • Posted By: Sam Huff @ 02/22/2008 7:24:05 PM

    tHE FACT REMAINS THAT THE MCCAIN CREDIBILITY IS NOT YET RESOLVED. iT IS OBVIOUS ALL OF REPUBLICAN AUTHOIRIES INCLUDING MCCAIN ARE TRYING RIGHT AWAY TO PUT THIS BEHAND THE VIEW OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. b UT WHY. wHY SHOULD WE NOW BE SATISFIED WITH HIS DENIAL IN ANY WRONGDOING WHEN WE WERE NOT WHEN CLINTON SAID HE DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH MONICA LEWINSKI?
    tHIS BLOG ITSELF RECOGNIZES THE HYPOCRACY OF ALL OF YOU WHO WANT TO SWEEP UNASWERED QUESTIONS UNDER YOUR DOUBLE STANDARD RUG. pLEASE MEKE IT GO AWAY....PLEASEWELL I HOPE THAT WE DON'T LET THIS GO AWAY.
    i SEE THAT SENATOR MCCAIN HAS ALSO CALLED THE NATION'S ATTENTION THAT HE HAS LOBBYISTS WORKING FOR SO CALLED "FREE" ON HIS CAMPAIGN. aND IF HE WINS AND THESE LOBBYISTS PICK UP THEIR OLD JOBS-HMMMMTHAT WORK FOR FREE MIGHT BE WORTH A WHOLE LOT OF ACCESS TO THE PRESIDENT THEN IF MCCAIN WINS. WORKING FOR FREE-WHO ARE YOU TRYING TO FOOL....AND MCCAIN KNOWS IT BUT WANTS US AGAIN TO TRUST HIM THAT SUCH LOBBYING TOOLS HAS "NO INFLUENCE" ON ANY OF HIS JUDGEMENTS. IS THAT WHY HE MADE THE PHONE CALL AFTER THE LOBBYIST ASKED HIM TO DO "SOMETHING" TO HELP HIS CAUSE? nO INFLUENCE ON HIS JUDGEMENTS? iF HE SO NIAVE THAT WE WILL BELIEVE THAT GARBAGE?

    • Posted By: ISawYourMommy @ 02/22/2008 8:20:48 PM

      Thanks for yelling at us, crapball. You are the reason why people don't like Americans. You think you need to yell to be heard, but that's only true if you have nothing worthwhile to say. Go change your daiper.

      • Posted By: jaymiller @ 02/22/2008 8:59:57 PM

        Give the guy a break - look at his sentence structures. Caps lock is on and he didn't know. If you're going to criticize him for anything, criticize him for that.

  • Posted By: laughingoutloud @ 02/22/2008 5:01:14 PM

    The Times must be really desperate for readers. When is everyone going to finally wake up and see the Times for what it is. Does anyone other than the Left Wing crazies really care what they have to say. They have only one agenda, get Obama elected, and they will trash anyone who gets in the way of their evil agenda.

    • Posted By: Aerdrie S. @ 02/22/2008 8:58:01 PM

      And Bush, Cheney, and the rest of the Republican Party don't? Get real! Just open your eyes and open a newspaper. Destroying our Constitution , turning our democracy into a monarchy, going against the Geneva Conventions, driving the middle-class into the poor house, sending our military to Iraq to die for nothing (oops, I mean so georgie and friends can get even richer by controlling the oil reserves in Iraq), plunging our economy into a recession, forcing thousands of families out of their homes and into the streets-homeless, protecting big business and themselves from possible prosecution of war crimes, turning the Justice Department into their personal attorneys, outing a covert agent, and to top it all off, ignoring all of the intelligence that was coming in prior to September 11, 2001. There isn't anything a democrat could do that could possibly be more EVIL THAN THAT!!!

  • Posted By: Citydesk @ 02/22/2008 8:51:42 PM

    In the process of discrediting McCain's defense, Newsweek has also become distracted by it: McCain's claim that he never personally corresponded with a Paxson representative circumvents the real issue. McCain's staff had multiple contacts with Paxson representative on this issue. Certainly the staffers briefed McCain on Paxson's request for his intervention. That's their job. Whether or not McCain entertained overtures directly from Paxson officials, he was cognizant of their desires.

  • Posted By: takklk2 @ 02/22/2008 8:37:02 PM

    so many accusations, so much being thrown at Mccain that I now am not sure what he is supposed to have done. The solution is very very simple....ask the writer of this article if he has ever lied.....then go talk to his first grade teacher....

  • Posted By: takklk2 @ 02/22/2008 8:32:20 PM

    looks like you are trying to make a story...ask 10000000 questions and if anytimeline is off you play the "gatcha game"...no gotcha, no story...not interested...you have worked so hard to try to manufacture a story that I forget now what this is all about anyways?.....I would like to ask the writer of this story if he ever lied and then go talk to his first grade teacher....duh

  • Posted By: eabg_22 @ 02/22/2008 8:05:37 PM

    Oldcrank....John Edwards was not nominated because of who he is. He is a "now that I've got mine, lets redistrubte yours, Robin Hood socialist" who made all his money sueing the pants off doctors. Scum like him makes malpractice insurance go through the roof, which make heath insurace cost more, and in turn make it "personal" for crooks like him to crusade for the poor and the deplorable U.S. healthcare system. He's a joke.

    • Posted By: ISawYourMommy @ 02/22/2008 8:31:32 PM

      Like your style. Don't necessarily agree with your comment, but at least you use logic to get there. The reason I don't necessarily agree is that tort reform in some states has not led to decreased or stablized health insurance rates, for some reason.

  • Posted By: SkidMark @ 02/22/2008 5:16:57 PM

    Obama is a muslum and shouldn't be trusted. He talks a lot of *** and doesn't care about change. Remember what the terrorists said about getting the US from within? No better way than from the highest levels of our government. We need to secure our borders and keep all of the illegals out.
    Obama......This is not a man for AMERICA and what we were founded on..
    Very interesting and something that should be considered in your choice. We checked this out on 'snopes.com'. It is factual. Check for yourself. Who is Barack Obama? Probable U. S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHIEST from Wichita, Kansas. Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia. When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocate to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a Catholic school. Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, 'He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school. Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that he is not a radical. Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education. Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta. Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is
    politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public office in the United States, Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background. ALSO,keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Koran. Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegience nor will he show any reverence for our flag. While others place their hands over their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches. Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy. The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level. through the President of the United States. One of their own!Please forward to eveyone you know. Would you want this man leading our country ....... NOT ME!!!!!!!

    • Posted By: indepent2008 @ 02/22/2008 5:31:12 PM

      I am going to take an educated guess and say that you are a white man in fear of having a black president. You can stop me if I am wrong.If Barack was white would you have dug throught the sewer to pull this baseless nonsense that I have seen floating around the internet? Here let me answer that one for you to no. If you dont want a black president, just say that and quit hiding behind these bogus lies. What does his parents have to do with him being president. Nothing, case study number 1 your friend Dumbya, his father was a good president, those genes didnt get passed along now did they? Talk about dumb. Here we have a president who thinks the definition of a sovereign nation means " a nation that is sovereign", nice play on compound words but we know the definition is not that. His mother looks like she could be related to the Quaker Oats man but I am not calling him a pilgrim, no am I. See how baseless your garbage is? Heres an idea, instead of reading all the sewage on the internet, do something valuable like check your facts and no Wikipedia doesnt count.

      • Posted By: ISawYourMommy @ 02/22/2008 6:06:01 PM

        And what are "compound words" anyway? That doesn't even make any sense.

        • Posted By: indepent2008 @ 02/22/2008 8:27:04 PM

          If you dont know the definition of a compound word, than you got bigger problems than worrying about who likes John McCain. Now run along, I think " I Saw Your Mommy" on the porch looking for you, the street lights are on.

      • Posted By: ISawYourMommy @ 02/22/2008 6:04:19 PM

        Stop!

        Oops. Didn't get you in time, so now we're blessed with the rest of your inanity.

    • Posted By: manjoemoe @ 02/22/2008 6:32:03 PM

      It is narrow minded biggots such as yourself that cause many of us to give up religion , at least the organized type. Your statements are overflowing with all of the "Christian" virtues you profess to cherish. I'm sure Jesus wouldn't share your views. But then again, Jesus wore long hair, a beard, hung with the lowest of the low of society, forgave those who turtured and killed and loved them all , you know a Democrat.

    • Posted By: markmier @ 02/22/2008 5:40:45 PM

      You might want to actually check the snopes site like you said everyone should do. Snopes does NOT agree with your smear of Obama.
      http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

    • Posted By: whyarentrepubsembarrased @ 02/22/2008 5:22:11 PM

      You need to look st snopes.com more carefully. Read the whole thing...what you stated as being part of their site is not true....stop trying to spread lies.

  • Posted By: brainon4u @ 02/22/2008 7:33:54 PM

    I'm a Republican and now understand the Republican party has gone neo-con. I'd like to take it back. With Obama/Clinton/McInsane/Huckalooser - let me tell you, "meet the new boss, same as the old boss". Ron Paul ONLY exception! ronapul2008 com for the "real deal Republian"

    • Posted By: BryanDB @ 02/22/2008 7:36:17 PM

      RON PAUL IS AN EVIL RACIST, SELFISH BIGOTTED MAN WHO ONLY SERVES THE RICH INDUSTRIALISTS

      • Posted By: ISawYourMommy @ 02/22/2008 8:26:38 PM

        That you have to resort to name-calling like McInsane and Huckaloser tells me you have nothing of value to say. Except that Ron Paul is the real deal "Republian." Learn how to spell, real-deal-anti-neo-con-hater-loser.

  • Posted By: CindyMcCainIsAHomewrecker @ 02/22/2008 6:12:09 PM

    Cindy McCain is a homewrecker trophy wife. John McCain is an adulterer. They had an illicit affair when he was married to his first wife, and had three young children. No amount of time will erase that. This is NOT a man to be trusted.

    • Posted By: ISawYourMommy @ 02/22/2008 6:27:55 PM

      Your handle should be "CindyMcCainIsAHomewreckerAndI'mABitterDivorcee." Way to wear your heart on your sleeve.

      • Posted By: indepent2008 @ 02/22/2008 8:17:54 PM

        The street lights are on.

  • Posted By: ArMYwives4Hillary @ 02/22/2008 6:19:16 PM

    It amazes me how many McCain supporters think that he is the only choice for the Military to 'thrive'!
    I am an Army wife and I know first hand the crap that the Bush administration has dished out to our soldiers
    and their families. Mccain is so out of touch with the reality of what 'soldiers' want with regard to the war in Iraq.
    "Let us win" was his comment about what the 'troops' are saying. Every single soldier that I know in the Army that my husband is friends with that just returned from Iraq after being in the combat zone for multiple tours are SICK and TIRED of the bulls%$t agenda and what they all went through over there for the past 15 months. Not one of them wants to GO BACK again and again to prove anything! They've already proven themselves over and over and over and over. It is so ridiculous what they go through over there, people have no idea. As usual, the Democrats are the only ones in touch with the military realities on the ground over there. Just listen to the retired Army generals supporting Hillary for president. It is common knowledge that any active duty officer isn't allowed to speak against the Commander in Chief while they are in active duty....but when they retire, that's when the truth comes out if anyone would pay attention.
    I've heard them speak over and over about how the war in Iraq has crippled the Army to near breaking point
    and what a complete waste and blunder it has all been (and continues to be).
    Wake up people! You've got your political agendas backwards. I'm sick of republicans claiming ownership of having all of the military 's support for their agenda. It's all a bunch of garbage. It's a LIE people. WAKE UP!

    • Posted By: indepent2008 @ 02/22/2008 8:16:44 PM

      Many thanks to your husband for the sacrifice that he has made so we can have the freedom to have this debate. My sister has been over there too, I dont want to see her go back there for fear she wont be back she is only 23, she has so much ahead of her.

    • Posted By: ISawYourMommy @ 02/22/2008 6:30:20 PM

      Okay already. I'm awake. Now, what was that you were saying?

  • Posted By: Rich P. From Princeton @ 02/22/2008 8:15:05 PM

    Drip, drip, drip. It's like the Chinese water torture. Oops! That's another one Pious John has changed his tune on.

  • Posted By: Rich P. From Princeton @ 02/22/2008 8:14:50 PM

    Drip, drip, drip. It's like the Chinese water torture. Oops! That's another one Pious John has changed his tune on.

  • Posted By: kay122 @ 02/22/2008 6:20:21 PM

    I am an independent who would like to clarify a few things.

    First, as to the charge that this is the work of the "liberal media" trying to attack a Republican candidate, let me remind you that Rush Limbaugh has been beating up on John McCain for weeks. He could be behind this.

    Regarding the charge that this is a Democrat smear campaign, let me remind you that 8 years ago during the primary campaign John McCain was the victim of a horrible personal smear campaign by a Republican candidate (and his so-called "Christian Leader" friend). Then, for some inexplicable reason, that candidate was elected President not once, but twice by Republicans. Now you want to complain about John McCain being a victim of a smear campaign? Don't be so quick to blame Democrats without proof. Maybe the other Republican candidates are behind this.

    I supported John McCain 8 years ago, but now that he has aligned himself with George Bush he doesn't get my vote. I think he is an American hero, but that doesn't mean he will make a good president. He's already admitted he doesn't know much about the economy. He better learn quick. Thousands of Americans die each year due to poverty, starvation, and lack of medical care, while we pour billions of dollars into Iraq. I can't take four more years of a president who is out of touch with the middle class and the poor.

    • Posted By: indepent2008 @ 02/22/2008 8:14:27 PM

      I am an Independent too. And that is pretty much where McCain lost me too, when he start supporting politics that we have a bottomed out economy and a broken military to prove that it dont work. Of course Neo cons cant see through other Neo Cons, that would deter from the whole design. The pro BS Express folks obviously havent been doing enough reading, if they had they would know their friend Rush "the only good pharmacist" is mine Limbaugh has a huge dislike for McCain for reasons unknown. So now that we know Rush doesnt like McCain and lets keep it real while we are on the subject Neo Cons favorite sci fi channel I mean Fox Noise or News arent exactly fond of McCain either.

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