Listening In

Immunity for the telecoms is nothing more than a direct cover up. Why else would they need it? If no laws were broken Bush & Friends would not be pushing harder by trying to scare people again. The White House tactic being used now is nothing more than an extension of the terror alerts Bush & Friends used during the last Presidential race. The people fell for it then. Will Congress fall for it now? Are the Democrats that weak?

If the Democrats give Bush & Friends a free pass again, I think it's time for a 3rd party as the Democrats are now nothing more than Republicans using a different name.

Yeah Right! Why can't these un-intelligence agencies just get a warrent? Is the paperwork too much trouble?

America is a great country and people as well but few people are making it worst. For instance my case. I am INDIAN belong to very INTELLECTUAL and good family in INDIA and educated. Invested lots of money in USA but on APRIL 2007 I decided to bring my daughter 8 MONTHS OLD DAUGHTER and wife to USA for business *** pleasure trip and they have refused me to enter in USA coz they thought I will stay back in USA. I have occurred huge loses but no one is ready to listen to me. Where is the JUSTICE IN THE NATION WHO IS KNOWN FOR "STATUE OF LIBERTY"...Now I want US citizen to think for a second. What happend you loose your job, you loose all your money, you loose your family support just becasue one office thought that I am wrong. Please help me to HIGHLIGHT my case I am INNOCENT like those people who are shot AND I NEED JUSTICE. I can be reached on alfredotoni@hotmail.com. I am ready to have a dialogue with any one because my family is innocent.

1TT.mobi has some good ways to protect yourself against spying. I tried some of their stuff out. Excellent!

There has to be accountability in a Democracy! Hey, the politicians, the media, the military, and all other civil servants including President and Vice President are supposed to serve the people and their best interests. Well there are only a handful of these people who actually have the interest of the country and the people ahead of their own agendas. (They are the politicians you never hear about or see on TV). How many more scandals, crimes, etc do we need to hear about before we realize that the people together, not divided, have the power to change the future. Our vote! We need to start by rewarding politicians who stand firm on campaign promises. Who show honest hard working hours in their job (enough absentees), fiscal responsibity, keep religion seperate from politics (as part of our constitution) not ties to special interests, previous military experience should be detailed (it's a joke that Bush's records disappeared), who stand up to crorporate interests and big money, etc. No votes for politicians who are tied to special interests, who vote against getting lobbyists out of politics, who are against breaking up the media empires of the few, who rewrite our environmental laws for the sake of enriching a few and on and on........... You know what I'm sick of blogging. I'm sick of reading crap. I'm sick of all the corrupt A holes in office, in our security forces and the media etc. I'm sick of the divisions now rampant in America that have been cleverly created by the few. I'm sick of Liberals who worm their way into office on the backs of hard working people only to sign treaties that take jobs overseas, who think more of their f#$%ing dog than their fellow man. I'm sick of Religious Republicans who use God and the bible to get into office only to truly show themselves as paedophiles, toilet gays, sex fiends, draft dodgers, corporate whores, money launderers, law breakers, etc, etc. I'M SO SICK OF THE BULL@#$%! Democrats and Republican politicians probably read these blogs and laugh their asses off at all of us arguing and bitching. Because when we are doing this crap we aren't out getting organized and that makes every politician happy! This is the last time I'm coming here. There has to be a better way to get us all united and have a country with one goal, even if it has two voices. THERE HAS TO BE.

Media Coup De Ta in the internet age. Getting americans, paranoid about fighting terrorism or will the
cake receipe my mother is sending me get stolen by Nsa? Lost liberties, maybe Al Gore has him in
hislock box, oops I forgot to worship the new Earth God, Gore. Taxation without representation. The real
Tyranny.

incubus,
thannks for the quote I've been trying to verbalize. I live in New Hampshire and our motto is "Live Free Or Die".

"Power corrupts...Absolute power corrupts absolutely". It all comes down to retaining our liberties as American citizens.

Let me misquote FDR by saying "We have nothing to fear but Terror itself".

This is bunch of political nonsense.Hello...it's actually President Bush who refuses to pass the FISA bil. If this were so incredibly vital, then Bush would pass it and some provisions would be make to review the telecoms role in the illegal spying. I am not saying that we should sue and try to destroy the telecoms. God knows exactly what kind of pressure was put on them to comply. The problem is oversight. We were founded on the premise that power can be abused. It's not unreasonable (at least to people with a brain) to ask that someone, or some bipartisan group be assigned to oversight to review who exactly is being listened to and what is being done with that information. Watergate was a minor burglary with the most insidious of intentions. And I don't feel comfortable giving the Bush administration-- or any administration for that matter- blanket power to wiretap at will without some checks on possible abuses. Who's to say they aren't tapping political opponents for gain. I mean, this is the group that seems to think that having voting machines with no paper trail is fine and dandy. Enough is enough. We don't have a monarchy in this country and we actually were founded on the notion that perhaps unitary executive power isn't the way to go in the United States. All this other screaming about who's more partriotic simply by who's willing to give blind allegiance and who isn't is complete garbage. Sorry, I guess I am just not into fascism.

No one is above the law. Not Bush, Cheney Clinton or anyone else. Politics should have nothing to do with it! Our constitution is (dare I say) our bible. Again, The fourth amendment requires a Judge to determine "probable cause for a crime" before issuing a warrant. The FISA court (secret) is allowed to bend the rules in the name of national security. What more do we need?

Media Coup De Ta in the internet age. Getting americans, paranoid about fighting terrorism or will the
cake receipe my mother is sending me get stolen by Nsa? Lost liberties, maybe Al Gore has him in
hislock box, oops I forgot to worship the new Earth God, Gore. Taxation without representation. The real
Tyranny.

tleclair No media Coup de ta . He may be able to pardon you for mass idiocy. Maybe their is no hope for
intelligent life psuedo liberal land.

Ya nixon is alleged to wire tape himself with out permission. Still he opened up detaunte with China, and almost survived a media coup deta.

Ya nixon is alleged to wire tape himself with out permission. Still he opened up detaunte with China, and almost survived a media coup deta.

Professor, you raised a great point. If the Bush administration is found guilty of Violating the law can Bush pardon himself for his crimes?

tleclair
My cake receipe got through the watch list, but key receipe and buzzword was constitution
and it created a harried search for my lost civil liberty, hmmmm their it is the lost liberty, a democrat
president. ugggg their all losers again.

Dave
google ECHELON and it might clear your fog. The nixon Administration illegally wiretapped John Lennon, Jane Fonda, and antiwar protestors among others, which was the reason for the creation of the fisa court in the first place...seriously, check it out