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  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 02/28/2008 7:25:45 AM

    WE NEED TO CRUSH AL QUEDA IN PAKISTAN AND GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE.

    LET US REMEMBER BERG. I AM NOT JEWISH, HOWEVER I FEEL THAT WE MUST NEVER FORGET.
    IT IS WORTH THAT yOUNG ARABS AND JEWS FROM ALL BACKGROUNDS START FORMING GROUPS THAT ENCOURAGE THE INTERACTION BETWEEN JEWS ARABS MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS IN THE MIDDLE EAST. SOMETHING LIKE AN NGO. ANyONE FROM ANy BACKGROUND CAN CONTRIBUTE. WITH ONE OBJECTIVE IN MIND. FRIENDLy RELATIONS. NO PRESSURE TO SET FOREIGN POLICy , JUST GETTING THE TWO ADVERSARIES IN THE SAME ROOM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WILL BE IN AMERICA'S AND THE WORLD'S BEST INTEREST. . THAT IS THE FIRST STEP .

    WHEN yOU TRy AND IMPOSE yOUR WILL "ALL OF A SUDDEN" ON THE MASSES, THEN ASSAASSINATIONS LIKE THOSOE OF RABIN, BHUTTO AND KENNEDy ARE INEVITABLE.

    "WHEN ANy ONE INDIVIDUAL BEOMES LARGER THAN THE CAUSE THEy ARE CHAMPIONING THEN THEy THEMSELVES BECOME AN OBSTALE TO THEIR OWN CAUSE" EDDIWHERE 2008.

    • Posted By: getzel @ 02/28/2008 7:47:39 AM

      eddiewhere is your brain: who is going to strip search the Moslems for belt bombs. eddiewhere is your brain says in the 1950s, if only the KKK would have sat together in peace with Black folks for tea, I am sure peace would have stomped out of the room and they would have rented each other rooms. Many blacks still hate whites till this very day; It is almost exclusively in the elder white community where prejudice remains; there is a cycle of distrust promoted exclusively by the black leaders and the press that keeps blacks from chilling and getting on with life; kind of like a self fulfilling prophesy.

      All blacks and whites, and mid-east people need is a big dose of mutual respect; not one way respect; mutual respect; each individual can start by setting an example; not someone else, you.

      • Posted By: InTheSouth @ 03/01/2008 9:22:18 AM

        getzel: All blacks and whites, and mid-east people need is a big dose of mutual respect; not one way respect; mutual respect; each individual can start by setting an example; not someone else, you.

        lol this is hilarious! You consider calling people morons and stupid simply because they disagree with you respectable? You consider hypocrisy respectable? You consider insulting and ridiculing anyone with a different perspective respectable? lol yes each individual can set an example and you should start with yourself. You offer nothing but disrespect, but expect respect in return The hypocrisy never ends.

    • Posted By: getzel @ 02/28/2008 2:54:54 PM

      eddiewhere are you, the Army is waiting for you so they can go beat up the people you said. Surely you do not mean...others should go into battle cause eddiewont volunteer?

  • Posted By: Tony2001 @ 02/28/2008 2:09:36 PM

    Obama better be the teflon caandidate because it seems like they are throwing everything at him and see what sticks. He is anti jew, he is pro farakhan, he is a sleeper agent for Iran, he is an under cover muslim, he is not patriotic, he will give Iran the bomb, he is the anti christ, and the primaries have not even started yet. WOW, politics is very very wicked.

    • Posted By: getzel @ 02/29/2008 10:28:45 PM

      intheshrouds: A #2

      Research indicates there are 3, maybe 4 if you include congressmen, specific types of people that support PINKObumer.

      1. Hate themselves, and of course proclaim it is others that hate.
      2. Hate others, and of course proclaim it is others that hate.
      3. Most prevalent group: UDOPIANS: Characterized by bizarre manifestations of HOPE and CHANGE according to each individuals individual fantasy of utopia. UDOPIANS have the same side effects, not unlike alcoholics or drug addicts, they are in denial as to reality: that HOPE and CHANGE mean nothing; and yet those with UDOPIA feel HOPE & CHANGE means whatever they fanaticize it means. Each has the same basic politically correct response to those who try and point out they have UDOPIAN simplex: you are a neo-con or you hate or other similar politically correct accusations of the day. Someone points out: OBUMER you have UDOPIAN simplex: I see all the red flags of UDOPIA; same delusional HOPE for CHANGE answer every time.
      4. Congressmen, & their workers, who think PINKObumer is their: 4 more years of pork barrel: free meal ticket for their districts; no leadership with a clue to control congressional out of control spending.= easy re-election.

      • Posted By: InTheSouth @ 03/01/2008 9:13:22 AM

        Research indicates that:

        A good working definition of fanaticism is that you are so convinced of your own views and policies that you are sure anyone who opposes them must either be stupid and deceived or have some ulterior motive.

        This obviously describes getzels view perfectly. He/She is then a fanatic, and like any other fanatic his/her comments are too absurd and ridiculous to be taken seriously by anyone of sober or rational thought.

    • Posted By: InTheSouth @ 02/28/2008 6:50:20 PM

      lol so true. You forgot Communist.

  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 03/01/2008 7:49:17 AM

    If it looks like a pig, oinks like a pig, and stinks like a pig, it's a pig Hussein Obama is a pig, uh.... I mean mohammed.

    NOBAMA!!!

  • Posted By: inter2 @ 02/29/2008 7:48:22 PM

    To getzel:

    I am trying to get around your anti-semitic views towards Muslims so I can discuss facts with you.

    And talking about facts, why don't you ever mention the six million Jews killed by Christians in Europe?
    Or the Crusades against Muslims and Jews? Or the Inquisition? Christianity has the most violent history towards the Jews. But you don't mention any of it?

    Any by the way, the Romans were the major cause of Jewish diaspora, not Muslims. Jewish communities were expelled from Judea by Rome and sent to various Roman provinces in the Middle East, Europe and North Africa long before Islam.

    More facts:

    As I said before, only 2 of Israel's 9 Presidents were born in the area now called Israel.

    7 of Israel's 12 Prime Ministers were born outside the middle east, some were PMs more than once.

    At least 9 foreign affairs ministers were born outside the middle east, again some serving more than once.

    Jewish population in Palestine in 1922, 11%.

    Jewish population in Palesitne after WWII, 33%.

    Are you starting to get the point now?

    Were did all the Jews come and how did they get there?
    Simple, they were illegally migrated into Palestine by the pro-Zoinist movements. From Russia, Ukraine, Eastern Europe, Europe, USA, Africa, etc ....

    The powers that created Israel, runs Israel and supports Israel are not indigenious to the middle east.

    This is why Israel is different from the other illegally created modern nations in the middle east. And this is why the other middle eastern countries do not accept

    • Posted By: getzel @ 02/29/2008 9:41:42 PM

      You invent percentages

      • Posted By: getzel @ 02/29/2008 10:00:25 PM

        You reject the UN decision to create Israel out of the Ottoman empire; but support, no doubt, other UN decision. You acknowledge a large Jewish population in Israel and that the Arab workers came to work for the Jews and stayed to become known as palesteins in the 1960s. You acknowledge the Jews were called the Palesteinians until Israeli became the term. You reject peace and embrace suicide murder, and missiles at towns.

        • Posted By: inter2 @ 02/29/2008 10:33:56 PM

          So you finally acknowledge that even the Jews were known as Palestinians.

          • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 02/29/2008 11:19:51 PM

            You seem to know a few things about Islam. Did you know that their prophet was a well known pedophile and they worship a fallen angel as god. Mohammeds pervert the truth about Abraham and try to hijack GOD's promise. They like to hijack planes too.

            NOBAMA!!!

            • Posted By: inter2 @ 03/01/2008 1:11:52 AM

              Did you know that Abraham's God told Abraham to kill his only Son and Abraham was going to do it? What sort of God would make you do this and what sort of father would agree to kill his only Son?

              And by the way, Jews, Christians and Muslims all pray to the same God, the God of Abraham.

              • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 03/01/2008 7:44:18 AM

                Neither Jews not Christians pray to a moon goddess, named Allah. That is what mohohammed usrd to base his god on. We have nothing in our faith's common to muslim filth. Go eat a ham sandwich.

                NOBAMA!!!

    • Posted By: getzel @ 03/01/2008 6:18:15 AM

      you attribute comments to me that do not exist. Inter2 simply lies

    • Posted By: getzel @ 02/29/2008 9:39:33 PM

      The Jews came back to there homes that you yourself acknowledge are theirs

      • Posted By: inter2 @ 02/29/2008 10:32:19 PM

        So you admit that the majority of Israel Jews came to the middle east from somewhere else.

        • Posted By: getzel @ 03/01/2008 6:17:27 AM

          you attribute comments to me that do not exist. Inter2 simply lies

  • Posted By: getzel @ 03/01/2008 7:25:01 AM

    War ends We win: when we pass a law that makes the minimum price of gasoline at the pumps: $1.75/gallon; billion dollar/million barrel per day ethanol stills can not be built without protection from OPEC monopoly pricing rusting out our new stills: OPEC could lower gasoline back to 80 cents per gallon to put the ethanol stills out of business so $1.75 per gallon will break the OPEC monopoly and bring the free market back to the fuel for cars market .

    The ethanol investors do not build ethanol distilleries because monopoly OPEC would lower the price to rust out their billion dollar million barrel a day ethanol still. Brazil is energy independent: ethanol; All their cars come built running on ethanol; Archer Daniel Midland made millions on $1.00 gallon ethanol in the 1990s; that trumps any canard/invalid objection to ethanol. Use Cellulose ethanol, not corn ethanol.

    With all the cars running on ethanol; the price of oil will collapse and the Moslem hordes will no longer have the funds we used to give them from gasoline sales to finance the war against us. Soon the world will care as much about the Arabian sand as they do Rwanda.

    Dollars to Arabs for oil, then the weapons manufactures take most of the dollars from Arabs for weapons; KGB and intelligence services then engage in manipulating ethnic masses. The KGB is the marketing team for the Comuless Moscow Weapons Company,,,see KGB handbook on manipulating ethnic masses by Getzel. The old KGB: Kick up trouble, Go sell weapons , Be in a nice long war; sell lots of weapons...You finance the war against The West every day at the gasoline pump.

    Arabs and Persian Sharia people are at war with The West because Arabs and Persian Sharia people believe Islam can not survive against a free market, free speech to criticize Islam repetitive Republic. Yes, Arabs and Persian Sharia people believe Islam is doomed to the trash heap unless freedom to criticize Islam and democracy are eliminated. That is why they send suicide murderers and attack the West. Propaganda, the big lie???

    Arab, if only Israel???is only an excuse, propaganda, for Islamic terror; as we see that wherever the Mohammedans bump against another culture the Mohammedans say the same thing they say about Israel. In India: same thing???in Kosovo: same thing???In Israel: same thing. In Darfor: same thing. In Thailand: same thing, the Philipines: same thing. Wherever the Moslems are contiguous with another people: The Moslems say the same thing they say about Israel: If only???Sharia???and no freedom of speech to criticize Islam???

  • Posted By: inter2 @ 02/29/2008 2:43:54 PM

    getzel: The religion of most modern Persians is Islam, but modern Persians have a closer ethnic connection to ancient Persia then modern Jews have to ancient Hebrews.

    And this is the point I have been trying to make all along:

    Today, most Jews have little if any ethnic connection to ancient Hebrews. The argument that modern Jews have a right to middle eastern land is a non-starter.

    The majority of Jews today are not middle eastern. Unlike, as an example, Persians who live mainly in the middle east and have continously been the majority population in Iran since ancient Persia.

    In fact, the most common Jewish last name is German, not ancient Hebrew. However, since the creation of Israel some Jews have started taking on more Hebrew like names.

    Many of the modern nations in the middle east were created illegal by western powers. The difference with Israel is that it was created and filled with people from outside the middle east.

    But unlike some other parts of the world, Arabs and Persian do not submit to the will of the more powerful west. They don't say, yes master. Like cats, the west can't train them to be submissive to their will. They fight back.

    • Posted By: 1exnewyorker @ 02/29/2008 3:04:32 PM

      I have to agree with you on most points. In the case of Israelites, they are, in my opinion, actually being anti-Semitic themselves, since Arabs too are Semitic. What I object to is the anti-Semitism (both kins) in American society. Persian history is rich and beautiful. I am so astonished that few Americans know about such an astonishing civilization.

      I also agree with you about Western countries dividing the middle east. Most of the problems there I think can be traced to the Brits, and unfortunately to the middle east being a source of oil.

      • Posted By: getzel @ 03/01/2008 6:23:14 AM

        What a shame ancient Persians traded in culture for Sharia

    • Posted By: getzel @ 02/29/2008 6:00:44 PM

      The Jews own Israel since before Mohammed was born. Jews never sold the land of Israel to anyone and no one even presents a deed to claim otherwise, the land was stolen. Jews reclaimed their land.

  • Posted By: maymok @ 02/29/2008 5:56:04 PM

    Obama is definitely good for the Jews. He has been working to improve the historic Black and Jew relations. Always remember, most blacks are Christians and have a historical relationship with the Jews. Because of their history of prosecution, slavery and holocaust, Blacks and Jews are closer to one another than any other ethnic groups in the USA.

    • Posted By: getzel @ 02/29/2008 11:12:02 PM

      PLEASE Before you vote, take a look at this ------------- More than from speeches, we can see where the candidates real values come from.
      The church we attend or don???t attend, and the company we keep speaks volumes about our character and values.
      Here is Barack Obama???s Church: Trinity Union Church of Christ in Chicago, look it up on [www.tucc.org]
      The head pastor of TUCC and Obamas spiritual advisor, Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. praises Louis Farrakhan, and the Nation of Islam in the church magazine. www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/14/AR2008011402083.html - In 1982 Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr, and the church launched Trumpet Newsmagazine; Wright's daughters serve as publisher and executive editor.
      In return, Louis Farrakhan has endorsed presidential candidate Barack Obama, saying he is the ???hope of the entire world???.
      Obama claims ???I decry racism and anti-Semitism in every form???. But why hasn???t Obama renounced the Trinity Union Church of Christ, or Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A.Wright? Praise for an anti-Semitic demagogue is not a minor difference or an intra-church issue. Wright is not just Obama's pastor, he's a key member of Obama's circle.
      Beyond the Farrakhan issue is the TUCC???s anti White, and Anti American mission. ???We are a congregation which is Unashamedly Black??? and excludes all other races.
      [www.tucc.org]
      ???African-centered thought, unlike Eurocentrism, does not assume superiority and look at everyone else as being inferior??? This statement implies that African Centered thought is superior to European (code word for white), which is a contradiction of the statement itself. [www.tucc.org]
      Black conservative pundit Erik Rush said the church has embraced "things African above things American," and he claimed that this should be as alarming as a Republican presidential candidate "belonging to the Aryan Brethren Church of Christ."
      If Obama???s Actions matched his words, he would not be a member of this anti-Semitic church.

      Racism practiced by any color is still racism

      • Posted By: 1exnewyorker @ 03/01/2008 12:22:20 AM

        Thank you for so eloquently expressing what I too believe.

    • Posted By: getzel @ 02/29/2008 7:36:56 PM

      Sharia says Barahk Hussein Obama is a Moslem subject to the maximum penalties weeded out by Sharia. So why should all the Al Qaeda and Moslems come to this post to support PINKObumer, when everyone else with his status as a turn coat is subject to the maximum penalties weeded out by Sharia.

      Something is rotten in Denmark.

  • Posted By: getzel @ 02/29/2008 10:31:37 PM

    War ends We win: when we pass a law that makes the minimum price of gasoline at the pumps: $1.75/gallon; billion dollar/million barrel per day ethanol stills will not be built without protection from OPEC monopoly pricing rusting out our new stills. This war is only a phony weapons deal.

    My view is that Osama B L and Mughniyeh et al should be refered to as "mercenary marketing directors for various government owned weapons manufacturers parading as a religious persons";( my description fits better than theirs & who would believe them if we did not promote them as religious?) no English definition of "religious person" includes flying planes into buildings. true not true, who cares; follow this strategy: war Ends We Win.

    The ethanol investors do not build because monopoly OPEC would lower the price to rust out their billion dollar million barrel a day still. Brazil is energy independent: ethanol; All their cars come built running on ethanol; Archer Daniel Midland made millions on $1.00 gallon ethanol in the 1990s; that trumps any canard/invalid objection to ethanol. Use Cellulose ethanol, not corn ethanol.
    Dollars to Arabs for oil, then the weapons manufactures take the dollars from Arabs for weapons; KGB and intelligence services then engage in manipulating ethnic masses. The KGB is the marketing team for the Comuless Moscow Weapons Company,,,see KGB handbook on manipulating ethnic masses by Getzel. The old KGB: Kick up trouble, Go sell weapons , Be in a nice long war; sell lots of weapons...

  • Posted By: inter2 @ 02/28/2008 3:42:30 PM

    Until the creation of Israel, Palestine had been dominated by Arabs and the Muslim religion for over 1200 years. Even when Israel was created Jews were a minority religion in Palestine.

    Most Jews even today live outside of Israel, in Europe, America, Eastern Europe and Russia. And most lost connection with the middle east hundreds of years ago. The only reason there are millions of Jews in Israel now is because they migrated there from eslewhere in the world.

    The argument that the Jews can take land because their religion has a connection to the area over 1200 years ago is ridiculous. Especially, when most Jews haven't lived in the that area for hundreds of years. Whats so special about being Jewish?

    Here is an analogy:
    I'm Christian, I have absoultely no connection to the middle east. But hey, Christianity started in the middle east 2000 years ago so I guess I should go there and claim land rights where Jesus was born, according to the bible. I also expect the UN legitmise my claim to my own country because of my religion.

    But I guess I'm only Christian and not special like the Jews.

    How ridiculous!

    Judism is not a race. Its only a religion.
    The creation of Israel was and is illegal. It belongs to the Palestinians.

    • Posted By: getzel @ 02/28/2008 5:44:16 PM

      I do not agree with your numbers. There has been a continuous Jewish presence in Israel since at least 1313 BC: 2000 years before Mo was born. Jews maintained the country and had a Capital in Jerusalem for hundreds of years before Mo was born. Just as in Kosovo 1997-2008 where Moslem hordes kill rape and murder Christians and run them out of town and now few Christians live there. So Moslem Hordes did the same to Jews in the Jews land of Israel. Stealing does not make for a legit deed. Moslem hordes did the same thing to Christians in Lebanon 1979-present; now fewer Christians than before. Liars and thieves figure, but figures do not lie. Thanks for the opportunity to remind everyone about thieves.

      So the Moslems rape and pillage and murder, and it is all legal under Sharia law to do that to non-Moslems, and after murdering and expelling, Moslems then come say: look today, we have a majority of the population!

      • Posted By: BabylonBlue @ 02/28/2008 6:06:01 PM

        oh please that is why when you talk to so many jews that lived under the islamic era weather under the Moors in Spain or in countries such as Iraq and Jordan before they were stupidly expelled talk about how they were so treated with such dignity and respect. In the true rule of Islamic governments all religions lived side by side and the Jews were allowed to practice their faith freely without persecution. As a matter of fact the only time jews were persecuted was during the time of the crusades and when the islamic empire rule left spain and when the jews lived in non islamic countries. So before you speak numbers and talk history. Read your history book again. And it is not Moselms its MUSLIMS

        • Posted By: getzel @ 02/29/2008 10:13:13 PM

          you still never heard of dhimmi

  • Posted By: sstein2 @ 02/26/2008 8:15:25 PM

    Obama is not Muslim. He was raised by his Christian mother. I am not an Obama supporter, but some of you have gone over the edge.

    I agree with Danny Ayalon. I will add that a face-to-face meeting between Ahmadinejad and an American president can only give aid and comfort to Holocaust deniers and antisemites everywhere. Holocaust denial already permeates the Arab and Muslim world.

    The Revolutinary Guard was parly responsible for the bombing of the Jewish Commnity Center in Buenos Aires along with the Iranian supported Hezbollah.

    It won't matter what Obama says during this meeting. It will be overwhelmed by the news clips of the two of them shaking hands and smiling at each other. I already know what Tom Lantos would say if he were still alive.

    I don't think that Obama's goal is to give aid and comfort to Holocaust deniers and antisemites, but it will just the same. This is bigger than Israel. It affects the safety of Jews everywhere in the world.

    • Posted By: Thype1er @ 02/29/2008 4:48:25 PM

      As a matter of fact Obama's mother was agnostic. I think it's common knowledge that he is not Muslim, but it's incorrect that his mother was a Christian.

      Obama '08

    • Posted By: getzel @ 02/27/2008 1:32:53 PM

      sstein2: You do not know he is not a Muslim; and I think he may be.

      • Posted By: InTheSouth @ 02/27/2008 4:02:57 PM

        Again as you so often do you confuse your speculations and belifs with reality. Believing something doesn't make it a fact. You say Obama is a Muslim simply because you believe he is? That's called delusion.

    • Posted By: any1butDem @ 02/27/2008 9:19:57 AM

      Aside from the fact that Obama's mother was not a Christian either, this is one of the best posts on here. Good stuff.

      BTW, Obama's mother was indifferent really. She just dumped him off at different schools and churchs with a figure out what you want mentality.

  • Posted By: 1exnewyorker @ 02/29/2008 2:49:34 PM

    What worries me about Obama's stance is not so much whether he will support Israel but that he has not repudiated any support from Farrakkhan. Anti-Semitism still exists in this country, and it has nothing to do with Israel. Farrakkhan is also anti-white. We don't need a hate-monger like that in American life, period. And Obama talks out of both sides of his mouth on this issue. First he says that Rev. Wright was a mentor, then he says he repudiates his views. Which is it? I don't trust Obama on many issues; this one is merely the latest.

  • Posted By: Evax @ 02/29/2008 1:12:16 PM

    Since Obama's "CHANGE" is as arcane as that induced by global warming or DNA mutation, I have to doubt whether he is a quasi-Muslim terminator programmed to win, and licensed to kill. The devil who can really hang US would be a President who can sell voters a sugar-coated rope. It is Obama's responsibility to articulate what his "CHANGE" is about and he has failed doing that. If the Democratic Pary is unable to recruit a candidate who is highly trusted and respected, the party may soon be over.

  • Posted By: rrlieberma @ 02/29/2008 12:46:16 PM

    Given the tremendous challenges the next President faces in the Middle East, and the tiny to non-existent margin of error for the State of Israel, Hillary Clinton is really the only choice for President.

    Senator Clinton has first hand experience and a nuanced, deep understanding of the region, its opportunities and its dangers, Israel's people and its security, developed over at least 8 visits. She was in Israel for the signing of the Israel-Jordan peace agreement as well as just after the deadly Sbarro pizza homicide bombing when she met with victims families and some of the wounded. As FIrst Lady she visited an impressive program working with troubled children and families, imported it back to Arkansas and it is now operating in more than 20 states.

    As Senator, she has been a major champion of Israel's science and technology, and the opportunities for mutual economic and educational benefits.

  • Posted By: rrlieberma @ 02/29/2008 12:43:46 PM

    Given the tremendous challenges the next President faces in the Middle East, and the tiny to non-existent margin of error for the State of Israel, Hillary Clinton is really the only choice for President.

    Senator Clinton has first hand experience and a nuanced, deep understanding of the region, Israel's opportunities and its dangers, its people and its security, developed over at least 8 visits. She was in Israel for the signing of the Israel-Jordan peace agreement as well as just after the deadly Sbarro pizza homicide bombing when she met with victims families and some of the wounded. As FIrst Lady she visited an impressive program working with troubled children and families, imported it back to Arkansas and it is now operating in more than 20 states. As Senator, she has been a major champion of Israel's science and technology, and the opportunities for mutual economic and educational benefits.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 02/29/2008 6:46:11 AM

    WE NEED TO CRUSH AL QUEDA IN PAKISTAN AND GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE.

    LET US REMEMBER BERG. I AM NOT JEWISH, HOWEVER I FEEL THAT WE MUST NEVER FORGET.
    IT IS WORTH THAT yOUNG ARABS AND JEWS FROM ALL BACKGROUNDS START FORMING GROUPS THAT ENCOURAGE THE INTERACTION BETWEEN JEWS ARABS MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS IN THE MIDDLE EAST. SOMETHING LIKE AN NGO. ANyONE FROM ANy BACKGROUND CAN CONTRIBUTE. WITH ONE OBJECTIVE IN MIND. FRIENDLy RELATIONS. NO PRESSURE TO SET FOREIGN POLICy , JUST GETTING THE TWO ADVERSARIES IN THE SAME ROOM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WILL BE IN AMERICA'S AND THE WORLD'S BEST INTEREST. . THAT IS THE FIRST STEP .

    WHEN yOU TRy AND IMPOSE yOUR WILL "ALL OF A SUDDEN" ON THE MASSES, THEN ASSAASSINATIONS LIKE THOSOE OF RABIN, BHUTTO AND KENNEDy ARE INEVITABLE.

    "WHEN ANy ONE INDIVIDUAL BEOMES LARGER THAN THE CAUSE THEy ARE CHAMPIONING THEN THEy THEMSELVES BECOME AN OBSTALE TO THEIR OWN CAUSE" EDDIWHERE 2008.

    • Posted By: getzel @ 02/29/2008 8:26:53 AM

      eddiewhere are you, the Army is waiting for you so they can go beat up the people you said. Surely you do not mean...others should go into battle cause eddiewont volunteer?

      eddiewhere is your brain: who is going to strip search the Moslems for belt bombs. eddiewhere is your brain says in the 1950s, if only the KKK would have sat together in peace with Black folks for tea, I am sure peace would have stomped out of the room and they would have rented each other rooms. Many blacks still hate whites till this very day; It is almost exclusively in the elder white community where prejudice remains; there is a cycle of distrust promoted exclusively by the black leaders and the press that keeps blacks from chilling and getting on with life; kind of like a self fulfilling prophesy.

      All blacks and whites, and mid-east people need is a big dose of mutual respect; not one way respect; mutual respect; each individual can start by setting an example; not someone else, you.

  • Posted By: inter2 @ 02/29/2008 2:56:43 AM

    getzel: You show a real lack of knowledge of middle eastern history.

    Palestine name was restored after the fall of the Ottoman empire, not created out of nowhere.

    Guess which country in the middle east has the largest population of Jews outside of Israel, Iran. In the Iranian Parliament there are three Jewish members.

    The King of Ancient Persia, Cyrus the Great, was the first real advocate of Jewish rights through his Edict of Restoration.

    The Cyrus cylinder has been considered as the world's first known charter of human rights, as there are passages in the text have been interpreted as expressing Cyrus??? respect for humanity.

    In Hebrew writing Cyrus appears 23 times in statements which suggest that Cyrus the Great, king of Persia, was the monarch under whom the captivity of the Jews ended, for in the first year of his reign he was prompted by Yahweh to make a decree that the temple in Jerusalem should be rebuilt and that such Jews as cared to might return to this land.

    Arabs and Persians are not angry at Israel because its a Jewish state. Its because the creation of Israel was illegal, impose against the will of the main middle eastern population by westerns who occupied their land at that time. They simply want their land back.

    If you want to know who is the real persecutor of the Jewish in the last 1000 years, your looking the wrong way. 6 million Jews were killed by Christians in Europe, not Arabs or Persian in the middle east.

    • Posted By: getzel @ 02/29/2008 8:23:46 AM

      Inter2lies shows a real lack of knowledge of middle eastern history and inability to read and comprehend.

      1. 1917-8. France and England were given Mandates of these areas of the middle east after the demise of Ottoman Turkey . All of the counties of the middle east were drawn by lines in the sand; including Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Lebanon et al. So that these countries were all created from the old Ottoman empire in the 20th century. It may be helpful for you to read Lawrence of Arabia.
      1. Inter2lies 2nd sentence bears no relationship to my post , and certainly does not dispute my posts validity.

      2. Cyrus the Great (ca.600 ??? 529 BCE); that is 1200 years before Mohammed, Islam, and Sharia???

      2. Inter2lies???Cyrus just proves how far you have fallen???

      3. 1917-8. France and England were given Mandates of these areas of the middle east after the demise of Ottoman Turkey . All of the counties of the middle east were drawn by lines in the sand; including Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Lebanon et al. So that these countries were all created from the old Ottoman empire in the 20th century.

      3. If one is illegal, they all are. Turkey, who rules from 1300-1918 would then have a claim also.

      4. Arabs and Persian Sharia people are angry because Arabs and Persian Sharia people believe Islam can not survive against a free market, free speech, republic with womens rights???Yes Arabs and Persian Sharia people believe Islam is through unless freedom and democracy are eliminated.
      The current threat is from Islamis not Christians and East Europe except to the extent that they are in denial as to the intentions of Islamis.

  • Posted By: BabylonBlue @ 02/28/2008 6:24:40 PM

    getzel---- you turn my stomach the comments you've made and your so called facts that you have numbered are a joke... your fundamentalist views are no better than that of Osamas and his clan. which clan do you belong to? the kill every non isreali person out there clan... every border was drawn in the sand what a genius comment that was. THATS ALL BORDERS ARE INVISIBLE LINES IN THE SAND!!!

    • Posted By: getzel @ 02/28/2008 7:14:41 PM

      The Ottoman Turks were the government in the middle east until from around 1300 until 1917-8. France and England were given Mandates of these areas of the middle east after the demise of Ottoman Turkey . All of the counties of the middle east were drawn by lines in the sand; including Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Lebanon et al. So that these countries were all created from the old Ottoman empire in the 20th century. It may be helpful for you to read Lawrence of Arabia.

      never heard of dhimmi. In Sharia countries it is not illegal to murder, rape and pillage non-muslems; and they did and do. Sorry to burst your Seriouslynaive politically correct dangerous mindlessness.

      Arab Mohammedan governments are all apartheid governments. No Christians, Sikhs, Buddha, or any other allowed to live there or prey there or anything else. Nice to know how the wonderful multicultural Israelis have freedom for all religions to live and pray where they want and have freely elected reps in the government and cabinet posts. Yes . Arab Moslem=apart-hate.

      • Posted By: getzel @ 02/29/2008 7:46:53 AM

        should have read: Arab Mohammedan governments are all apartheid governments. No Christians, Sikhs, Buddha, or any other allowed to live there (as citizens) or prey there or anything else...in Mecca & Medina: No Christians, Sikhs, Buddha, or any other allowed to live there or prey there or anything else...

      • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 02/29/2008 7:00:43 AM

        getzel-Excellent post. I am astounded by the lack of basic middle-eastern history and culture displayed by the obamamohammeds. I would not be at all surprised to see lots of his MoveOnYouTubers pushing for colorful burqua's as the new spring fashion tip for girls in the know. Anyway, really good info.

        NOBAMA!!!

        NO TO MOHAMMED!!!

  • Posted By: BabylonBlue @ 02/28/2008 6:16:27 PM

    almost everyone who has posted a comment on this blog is so racist it turns my stomach... you are all the epitome my there is no peace in the word and there is so much hate. No one was in Isreal before anyone else.. They all co existed happily together until manifest destiny arrose and the powers that be drew borders around people... its called divide and conqure and evryone doesnt get the big picture.. Everything is based on greed and power and those who have it could care less about the jews, christains, or muslims, their god is green and it is money... Obama, Clinton, Bush these guys are all pons for those who really run the show

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 02/29/2008 7:05:20 AM

      BabylonBoohoo-Since when is being against followers of a fallen angel and a pedophile prophet racist? JESUS did not give instructions to us to be folls and idiots. What was plotted in darkness shall be mad manifest in the light.

      NOBAMA!!!

      NO TO MOHAMMED!!!

    • Posted By: getzel @ 02/28/2008 7:20:25 PM

      BabylonBlue never heard of dhimmi. If BabylonBlue were the dhimmi perhaps he would have a different perspective. In Sharia countries, dhimmi=2nd class: no rights; it is not illegal to murder, rape and pillage non-muslems known as dhimmi; and they did and do. Sorry to burst your Seriously naive politically correct dangerous mindlessness. Just google it baby???

  • Posted By: josh62 @ 02/29/2008 6:54:17 AM

    ," Farrakhan said at the rallyObama's spiritual adviser, J Wright gave Trumpeter Award to a man it said "truly epitomized greatness. Louis Farrakhan. maybe for Wright and some others, Farrakhan "epitomized greatness." For Americans, Farrakhan epitomizes racism, particularly in the form of anti-Semitism. Over the years, he has compiled an awesome record of offensive statements, even denigrating the Holocaust by falsely attributing it to Jewish cooperation with Hitler "They helped him get the Third Reich on the road." His history is a rancid stew of lies. Any praise of Farrakhan heightens the prestige of the leader of the Nation of Islam. His anti-Semitism and particularly his false insistence that Jews have played an inordinate role in victimizing African Americans. Farrakhan's dream has vilified whites and singled out Jews to blame for crimes large and small, either committed by others as well or not at all. (A dominant role in the slave trade, for instance.) He has talked of Jewish conspiracies to set a media line for the whole nation. He has reviled Jews in a manner that brings Hitler to mind. And yet Wright heaped praise on Farrakhan. According to Trumpet, he applauded his "depth of analysis when it comes to the racial ills of this nation." He praised "his integrity and honesty." He called him "an unforgettable force, a catalyst for change and a religious leader who is sincere about his faith and his purpose." These are the words of a man who prayed with Obama just before the Illinois senator announced his run for the presidency.

  • Posted By: josh62 @ 02/29/2008 6:53:30 AM

    A number of Jewish and pro-Israel voters have raised questions about Barack Obama during the 2008 campaign. In case you haven't followed this ongoing issue, here's a brief summary of the complaints:Obama camp says, "The Rev. Wright is a man who has brought hope to many. Obama hasn't distanced himself from Reverend Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. of his home congregation in Chicago, whose church's magazine gave an award to the notorious Louis Farrakhan. Obama has called for engaging Iran. Daniel Ayalon, Israel's former ambassador to the United States, told the New York Sun he is concerned Obama would want to negotiate with a "Hitler-like" regime. Some of Obama's policy advisors of various stripes, such as Samantha Power, Robert Malley, and Zbigniew Brzezinski, have come under attack for their views on Israel. World Jewish Congress President Ronald Lauder fears, it's only a matter of time before the president becomes anti-Israel Howard Friedman, the president of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, said the leading presidential candidate are all interested in continuing close ties with Israel. But yesterday's online frenzy about a picture of Obama in traditional Somali muslim garb brought these questions back to the fore Obama is a closet Muslim.

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