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  • Posted By: m3taphysx @ 02/25/2008 2:27:52 PM

    The only country American Jews should be concerned about is America.

  • Posted By: lafit @ 02/25/2008 2:20:44 PM

    check on this video:
    http://election.newsmax.com/machinists_obama/?s=al&promo_code=45A3-1

    you will find out the big mistake you have done giving your vote to obama.

    HE IS JUST A FACKE TREACHEROUS

  • Posted By: getzel @ 02/25/2008 8:47:30 AM

    Why surely you do not believe Arabs would blow themselves to pieces at a piece conference? You invited them to a piece conference and they gave you one.

    • Posted By: mrs.cicero @ 02/25/2008 2:12:54 PM

      Well maybe this conflict would be over by now if the Jews would stop lobbying America and focus on their appalling human rights abuses against Palestinians who happen to be Jews, Muslims, and Christians. They are in violation of so many UN resolutions that it makes Bush look like a saint.

  • Posted By: shawn218 @ 02/25/2008 1:34:36 PM

    We as Americans need to reliaze that the terrorist state of isreal has nothing for us. We need to keep all that aide that we send them and take care of our own.

  • Posted By: shawn218 @ 02/25/2008 1:30:46 PM

    We as Americans need to wake up to the fact that Israel has done nothing for us but caused us alot of grief.

  • Posted By: washedupneverbeens @ 02/25/2008 12:52:29 PM

    Oh? So the people responsible for the war back Hillary?

    THEN ILL VOTE FOR OBAMA.

  • Posted By: Alice Rea @ 02/25/2008 11:52:57 AM


    To whom it may concern:

    Would you please investigate this information from the Chicago Sun Times:
    Louis Farrakhan backs Obama for president at Nation of Islam co...
    Speaking to thousands of members of the Nation of Islam at their annual convention Sunday in Chicago , Minister Louis Farrakhan praised presidential candidate Sen.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 02/25/2008 8:52:57 AM

    yOU ARE SAyING THAT A yOUNG JEW AND A yOUNG ARAB or MUSLIM CANNOT DISCUSS SOLUTIONS TO THEIR ISSUES. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TWO STATES NOT TWO ORGANIZATIONS.
    THAT ARGUMENT WOULD WORK IF yOU WERE TALKING ABOUT NEGOTIATING WITH BIN LADEN.

    REMEMBER GETZEL THAT OBAMA IS BOTH WHITE AND BLACK.
    UNFORTUNATELy you are still living in the sixties GETZEL. I THINK OU CANNOT BELIEVE THAT A COLOURED INDIVIDUAL HAS RISEN TO BE KNOWN AS OBAMA THE GREAT UNITER. OBAMA THE GREAT.

    • Posted By: getzel @ 02/25/2008 9:03:03 AM

      eddiewhere is your brain: Your 1st paragraph is dilusional. Your 2nd paragraph is dilusional.
      The question remains: We are left to assume who would strip search the young Arabs for belt bombs before the tea?; hosted by the KKK of course.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 02/25/2008 9:01:01 AM

    BARAK HAS AN ARAB NAME THAT WILL GIVE THE palestenians hope.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 02/25/2008 8:56:33 AM

    THERE ARE MANy BLACK JEWS IN AMERICA WHO COME FROM INTERRACIAL MARRIAGES. FATHER BLACK MOTHER JEWISH. AMERICA IS CHANGING. WHO ASSASINATED RABIN? GETZEL. You are LOST.

  • Posted By: getzel @ 02/25/2008 8:52:18 AM

    Why surely you do not believe Arabs/Moslems would blow themselves to pieces at a piece conference? You invited them to a piece conference and they gave you one. And that has been the Arab/Moslem responce after the conclusion of every piece conference they have attended with Israel.

  • Posted By: getzel @ 02/25/2008 8:38:36 AM

    There are lack people who suggest ???if only black people would had sat down for tea with the KKK I am sure they would have come together and settle their differences??? and become next door neighbors and bosom buddies. These same delusional lack people feel that the same black people to tea with the KKK in 50s would of course continue to be a good idea for bringing peace in Israel; These lack people also ignore reality and write like they woke up today without a clue about yesterdays and the actual reality of the world; These are Neville Chamberlainmaid morons that blunder countries into wars.

    We are left to assume who would strip search the young Arabs for belt bombs before the tea; hosted by the KKK of course.

  • Posted By: getzel @ 02/25/2008 8:38:35 AM

    There are lack people who suggest ???if only black people would had sat down for tea with the KKK I am sure they would have come together and settle their differences??? and become next door neighbors and bosom buddies. These same delusional lack people feel that the same black people to tea with the KKK in 50s would of course continue to be a good idea for bringing peace in Israel; These lack people also ignore reality and write like they woke up today without a clue about yesterdays and the actual reality of the world; These are Neville Chamberlainmaid morons that blunder countries into wars.

    We are left to assume who would strip search the young Arabs for belt bombs before the tea; hosted by the KKK of course.

  • Posted By: getzel @ 02/25/2008 8:38:33 AM

    There are lack people who suggest ???if only black people would had sat down for tea with the KKK I am sure they would have come together and settle their differences??? and become next door neighbors and bosom buddies. These same delusional lack people feel that the same black people to tea with the KKK in 50s would of course continue to be a good idea for bringing peace in Israel; These lack people also ignore reality and write like they woke up today without a clue about yesterdays and the actual reality of the world; These are Neville Chamberlainmaid morons that blunder countries into wars.

    We are left to assume who would strip search the young Arabs for belt bombs before the tea; hosted by the KKK of course.

  • Posted By: getzel @ 02/25/2008 8:38:28 AM

    There are lack people who suggest ???if only black people would had sat down for tea with the KKK I am sure they would have come together and settle their differences??? and become next door neighbors and bosom buddies. These same delusional lack people feel that the same black people to tea with the KKK in 50s would of course continue to be a good idea for bringing peace in Israel; These lack people also ignore reality and write like they woke up today without a clue about yesterdays and the actual reality of the world; These are Neville Chamberlainmaid morons that blunder countries into wars.

    We are left to assume who would strip search the young Arabs for belt bombs before the tea; hosted by the KKK of course.

  • Posted By: getzel @ 02/25/2008 8:26:34 AM

    There are lack people who suggest ???if on black people would had sat down for tea with the KKK I am sure they would have come together and settle their differences??? and become next door neighbors and bosom buddies. These same delusional lack people feel that same black people to tea with the KKK in 50s would of course continue to be a good idea bring peace in Israel; These lack people also ignore reality and write like they woke up today without a clue about yesterdays and the actual reality of the world; These are Neville Chamberlainmaid morons that blunder countries into wars.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 02/25/2008 7:56:51 AM

    WE NEED young JEWISH AND ARAB groups TO COME TOGHETHER AT ALL LEVELS. OBAMA SHOULD SIT DOWN WITH THE TWO FACTIONS AND CHALLENGE THEM to build organizations that encourage interaction between the two groups. THIS IS THE type OF PARADIGM WE NEED TO FOLLOW if we wish to solve the challenges that face our COUNRy.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 02/25/2008 7:54:53 AM

    TO EZTEL. how can you state ARAB/ ISRAELI RELATIONS DO NOT DICTATE OUR foreign pOLICy IN THE MIDDLE EAST.
    OBAMA IS JUST encouraging COMMUNITy BASED GROUpS FROM BOTH SIDES to sit down and begin a dialouge.. SOMETHING LIKE AN NGO type ORGANIZATION. WHERE ANyoNE CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THE CAUSE. THESE ORGANIZATIONS WILL INFLUENCE THEIR OWN GOVERNMENTS. "THAT WAy THEy" CAN SOLVE THEIR OWN DISpUTES.
    THEy NEED A push in the right direction. BUSH HAS SOFTENED THE ARAB/MUSLIM WORLD Up . THEy WILL WELCOME AND NEW AppROACH. THEy know the consquences of not solving their differences. WAR.

    UNFORTUNATELy THAT IS WHAT THE ESTABLISHMENT ON ON BOTH SIDES WANTS> WAR
    ENCOURAGING OUR ADVERSARIES TO INTERACT WITH EACHOTHER is the best thing FOR AMERICA. ATTACKING SOMEONE yOU KNOW IS MORE DIFFICULT THAN SOMEONE you DO NOT.
    HOW ON EARTH IS ORGANIZING yOUNG pEOLE FOR pEACE a SIGN of WEAKNESS> THAT IS WHAT IRAN FEARS and the establishment on both sides FEAR THE MOST.
    IF THEy DO NOT HAVE AN ENEMy THE pEOpLE WILL TURN ON THEM and ESTABLISH A DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT. THESE Ty pES OF GRASS ROOT ORGANIZATIONS CAN influence REFORM FROM WITHIN IRAN. yOU HAVE BEEN INDOCTRINATED and FEEL THERE IS NO SOLUTION. THOSE WHO BENEFIT FROM THESE TENSIONS HAVE SUCCESSFULLy BLOCKED THE advancement of the peace process since ninety four..
    IT is a two faced relationship because the CLINTON's have close ties with DUBAI. THE ARABS own more than twelve PER CENT of our economy. AND WE ARE heavily IN DEBT TO ARAB Financiers.

    IT IS OBVIOUS THAT voting for the IRAQ WAR has STRENGTHENED IRAN a hundred times over.
    IS THIS IN ISRAEL's BEST INTEREST?
    OBAMA IS very CONCERNED WITH THE RISE OF IRAN AND IS EAGER TO DIFFUSE the situation> Hillary WOULD JUST IGNITE THE FLAMES. WE NEED A NEW Approach.

    "TO SOLVE PROBLEMS we must CONFRONT THE SOURCE AND DEFEAT IT". eddiewhere 2008
    A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO RUSSIA DELIVERED THE LAST OF IT's NUCLEAR SHIPMENT TO IRAN.
    WE SHOULD HAVE STOPPED THAT SHIPMENT by confronting RUSSIA and making it clear that they cannot provide IRAN with nuclear materials. THE ex SOVIET UNION, EASTERN EUROPEAN nations and the five breakaway REPUBLICS in CENTRAL ASIA are the source OF THE WORLD's INSECURE NUCLEAR MATERIALS. BUT WE NEVER GO TO THE SOURCE and CONFRONT IT.
    THIS IS WHy WE NEED A CHANGE. THE SOLUTIONS ARE THERE WE ARE JUST FOLLOWING THE INCORRECT Protocol..





    THE Israeli/ Palestinian CONFLICT is what dictates political relations in the MIDDLE EAST..
    OBAMA WILL LEAD an ARAB/ISRAELI MOVEMENT FOR pEACE. AFTER ALL, THEY ARE THE ONE's THAT MUST CONQUER THE OBSTACLES that obstruct the PATH TO PEACE.
    WHAT IS BEST FOR AMERICA IS TO GET THESE TWO adversaries in the same room TOGETHER AS "MUCH" AS possible.

  • Posted By: richards1052 @ 02/25/2008 1:04:06 AM

    Unforunately, this article does not note Gregory Levey's TNR article in which he quotes an Obama staffer saying there is evidence that the Obama Muslim smear e mail was circulated using the e mail list of "a DC Jewish non-profit organization." Which I take to refer obliquely to AIPAC (though it could be another organization). I'm horrified that an official of the Clinton campaign would circulate the Lasky piece of crap hit job. That's simply astonishing & says a lot about how low Clinto & her people are willing to go.
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    • Posted By: getzel @ 02/25/2008 7:51:49 AM

      trichards1052 is horrified at innuendo? It would seem more likely that trichards1052 distributed whatever it is he is writing about so he could claim to be horrified; that no one new or cared what he tried to do. That is why his post ends with I

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  • Posted By: Indepenedentsoul @ 02/23/2008 7:50:04 PM

    All presidential candidates, supporters of Israel. Is that not one if the points made in the book "The Israel Lobby" that no candidate for president dare make a negative comment about Israel as that would mean curtains for them? A manifestation of the influence and strangle hold the 'lobby' holds American politics in.

    • Posted By: getzel @ 02/23/2008 8:15:43 PM

      Indepenedentsoul: If Israel "falls" America is right behind it. The Mohammidans would be unstoppable. It is real irony that Jew haters have only Israel in the way of America being targeted and taken over by Muhammidans; Resulting in a burqa on all American women. Mohammidans would bring honor killing, women as chattel, public hangings of gays, public stoning of women if their husband feels suspicious, and many other fine customs; including loss of free speech: what we have left of the right to criticize Islam. Yes, real irony how bad Jew haters, Jew lovers, atheist, agnostics, and Christians need a strong and successful Israel.

      If my sense that your lack of fondness for Jews is correct; the joke would be on you if this were not so real and dangerous. Without Israel you get a burqa; Hitchcock would love the irony.

      • Posted By: Indepenedentsoul @ 02/23/2008 10:29:25 PM

        getzel, thank you so much for your reply to my comment. You actually proved my point. Even mentioning anything remotely critical of the holy state of Israel makes me an anti-semite. Please take your hate mongering elsewhere, and they are muslims, not Mohammidans. Get your facts straight.

        • Posted By: InTheSouth @ 02/24/2008 9:11:50 AM

          Yes as I have seen getzel does a good job of proving opposing arguments with his own comments. He has a serious problem of confusing his opinions with facts. He's delusional that way; it's sad. I love how he blames the entire Muslim community for the actions and policies of Islamist extremists. Obviously he has no idea how many Muslims there are in the world and even in our own country who don't agree with Islamist extremists. The terrorists have actually succeded wonderfully with him, they have turned him into a hateful paranoid.

          • Posted By: getzel @ 02/24/2008 10:27:35 PM

            The secular Moslem community is intimidated by and afraid of the mercenary marketing directors for various government owned weapons manufacturers parading as religious people, Osama and Ayatollas et al ,as anyone. The secular Moslem community does not dare openly protest that terrorist Osama B L and others are not Moslems for fear of getting their heads chopped off. As long as the Moslems allow the terrorist to parade as Moslems why should anyone think they are not. When it comes to Israel many in the secular Moslem community have no problems with Moslems blowing themselves up at pizza stores in Israel. So my analysis is that based on some secular Moslems actions in support of Moslems blowing themselves up in Israel that your Moslem community has some soul searching to do. The secular Moslem community has the responsibility to stop Moslem suicide bombers, publicly disavow Moslem suicide bombers, at pizza stores and everywhere, as Moslems or accept responsibility as silent accomplices.

            • Posted By: InTheSouth @ 02/25/2008 4:33:56 AM

              . First of all, it's not my Muslim community. I've never claimed to be Muslim. I'm simply rational enough to recognize the difference between extremists and non extremists. Who are you to say that secular Muslims are responsible for stopping Al Qaeda or any other Islamist extremists? I've never seen any Christians rushing to stop or condemn their extremists. Besides, Muslims have indeed criticized Islamist extremists. Just because you haven???t seen or heard any of these criticisms doesn???t mean they haven???t been made. Again you mistake your assumptions for facts. I've heard them mention it more than once. Here is one such statement from a British Muslim scholar, Abdal-Hakim Murad:

              Certainly, neither bin Laden nor his principal associate, Ayman al-Zawahiri, are graduates of Islamic universities. And so their proclamations ignore 14 centuries of Muslim scholarship, and instead take the form of lists of anti-American grievances and of Koranic quotations referring to early Muslim wars against Arab idolaters. These are followed by the conclusion that all Americans, civilian and military, are to be wiped off the face of the Earth. All this amounts to an odd and extreme violation of the normal methods of Islamic scholarship. Had the authors of such fatwas followed the norms of their religion, they would have had to acknowledge that no school of mainstream Islam allows the targeting of civilians. An insurrectionist who kills non-combatants is guilty of baghy, ???armed aggression,??? a capital offense in Islamic law.


              Obviously then, you are incorrect. Muslim criticism of Islamist extremists does exist. You know who else used the same argument you are using? Al Qaeda when they blew up the WTC. They claimed they had not killed any innocent civilians, because all American civilians were allowing the U.S. government to enact policies and aggressions against Muslims, therefore they are all just as guilty. You accused me of being Al Qaeda, yet you have just proven that you think exactly like they do. Of course there are some secular Muslims that approve of Al Qaeda, this is still not evidence that they ALL do. And this means, as I said earlier, that the ENTIRE Muslim community is not responsible for the actions and policies of Al Qaeda.

          • Posted By: getzel @ 02/24/2008 11:22:00 AM

            inthesouth is just delusional; drug induced, environmental, or victim of propaganda. inthesouth talks/writes till he believes his own baseless BS

            • Posted By: InTheSouth @ 02/24/2008 11:46:06 AM

              A good working definition of fanaticism is that you are so convinced of your own views and policies that you are sure anyone who opposes them must either be stupid and deceived or have some ulterior motive.

              This obviously describes getzels view perfectly. He/She is then a fanatic, and like any other fanatic his/her comments are too absurd and ridiculous to be taken seriously by anyone of sober or rational thought.

              • Posted By: getzel @ 02/24/2008 12:16:52 PM

                inthesouth may be an Al Qaeda rep. His post and baseless statements about others; and only describe himself; says nothing.

                • Posted By: InTheSouth @ 02/24/2008 12:39:45 PM

                  Again Getzel proves his fanaticism. He thinks that I'm a terrorist. This = ulterior motive, a symptom of fanaticism. It also seems a bit paranoid to me.

                  A good working definition of fanaticism is that you are so convinced of your own views and policies that you are sure anyone who opposes them must either be stupid and deceived or have some ulterior motive.

                  This obviously describes getzels view perfectly. He/She is then a fanatic, and like any other fanatic his/her comments are too absurd and ridiculous to be taken seriously by anyone of sober or rational thought.

                  • Posted By: getzel @ 02/24/2008 1:34:57 PM

                    Again thanks to inthesouth for presenting the Al Qaeda perspective.

                    • Posted By: InTheSouth @ 02/24/2008 3:33:11 PM

                      lol how can I present an Al Qaeda view when I am not Al Qaeda? Where is your evidence that I am Al Qaeda? Again you confuse your opinions and speculations with facts. I don't know why I'm even bothering to reply, you keep proving my points with your own words.

        • Posted By: getzel @ 02/24/2008 12:19:58 PM

          Indepenedentsoul is an Al Qaeda rep. Thanks for sharing your/the Al Qaeda world view.

        • Posted By: getzel @ 02/24/2008 12:18:24 PM

          Indepenedentsoul is an Al Qaeda Rep

        • Posted By: getzel @ 02/24/2008 11:11:29 AM

          My post contains none of the words you claim it does except Mohammedan; which has been the accepted term for 1000 years; no surprise you never heard it and take offence to it. The other words you claim I use that do not appear in my post are obviously a description of yourself: Indepenedentsoul; which you seem to have trouble spelling. You would not know a fact if you saw one.

        • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 02/24/2008 4:48:01 AM

          NOBAMA!!!

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