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  • Posted By: Over 60 @ 02/24/2008 7:52:10 PM

    Same comments show up no matter what the article or venue-boring and highly unproductive in moving the discussion forward.

  • Posted By: wilsan @ 02/24/2008 5:17:24 PM

    What Mr. Fineman glosses over is, at least McCain has a voice to lose. Obama has never had voice 'to lose'. Pretty words do not constitute a 'voice'.

  • Posted By: COWBOYSF @ 02/24/2008 12:15:59 PM

    Gentelelmen: we the people want to end this congress,s & this adminastrations war for oil. we want carbon neutral homes so we dont pay our enemys to take our tax $$$ this congress is so crupt they vote for there profilio. & most hold stocks in the oil companys& the pharmasutals. soi we the people get screwed. we want and end. so we will vote for obama. i and about 7 million want DR. ron paul. you the media should look up my web site at care2.com. it fight big oil. i my self will run for GOV. of
    CA. as arnold will not fight the feds . we want the war over. we want the war on oil.over we will not support the oil companys stealing iraq. oil to pay for there greed. no we want a congress that will make them pay for there destrustion. the carbon tax. will make them pay when they drill they must compansate any animals they hurt, or any habitate the distroy they must imeadlt fix or the exeative. of thouse companys will spend JAIL TIME. say 6 MONTHYS,that will comply they pay for there mistakes or dont make them.we want mandated tax breakes for all renewables, solar wind HEMP NEEDS TO BE GROWN AGAIN, LIKE WW2 WE GREW HEMP FOR FUEL THIS WOULD BE A HUG BOOM THE FUEL FROM BIODIESL HEMP WAS WHAT THE 1020,S CARS WERE DESIGN TO BE FUELED. THE OIL COMPANYS DESTROYED THAT, WE WILL GET RID OF THE FEDERAL RESEARVE, THEY ONLY FUND THE BANKS,WE WILL NO LONGER PAY FOR THAT. WE WOKE UP. TAX THE DRUGS PUT THEMK UNDER THE DEPT OF HEALTH. NOT THE JUSTISE DEPT. THAT IS SO CRUPPT HALF THE COPS ARE ON THE TAKE. THEY HAVE BANK ACCOUTS OFF SHORE. ASK THE RET, OFFICER FROM LEAP.COM THEY WILL TELL YOU.

  • Posted By: doctorfixit @ 02/24/2008 10:56:34 AM

    From where did McCain get all the money for his spectacular back-from -the-dead comeback after his disastrous Amnesty fiasco last summer? Who are the biggest supporters of amnesty? Not the little guy, not the small businesses who play by the rules and who contribute the paltry sums allowed by Senator McClean. No. The media never told us the real story of McAmnesty's amazing comeback, because it was financed by K Street.

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 02/24/2008 11:12:04 AM

      Yea your right. This lobbyist story is right up there with this Sinclair and Obama story about crack rock, homo bj's, and lie detector tests.

      Won't they ever learn.

      NOBAMA!!!

  • Posted By: doctorfixit @ 02/24/2008 10:43:10 AM

    I love this. McCain, the media darling, suddenly becomes the corrupt insider hack. The political cartoons suddenly all show him in bed with lobbyists. Ha ha. He deserves it. He made the media all-powerful with McCain -Feingold. He has a sordid past that until now the media has buried. Decades of insider dealings that we were never permitted to know about - because of the deal between McCain and the media, the deal that now the ever-relioiable are now reneging on. Poetic justice

  • Posted By: CleanHouse @ 02/24/2008 9:51:59 AM

    No one respected the media more than McCain. As Fomeeman admits, no politician in our time gave thge media better aceess. So what does McCain get for his openess and trust: Slancer, Innuendo and Tabloid Gutter Journalism. No wonder McCain is not availabie.

  • Posted By: CleanHouse @ 02/24/2008 9:48:55 AM

    Can anyone blame McCain for now being more careful with the media? McCain treated the press with more respect than any politician living today, perhaps ever. And this is what he gets: Slander, Innuendo an gutter tabloid journalism.

  • Posted By: gommy goomy @ 02/24/2008 9:25:31 AM

    This is an open invitation for Howard Fineman to come on to my show. I see him on the T.V. all the time, so I'm sure that he'll come on. By the way, Howard, it's been brought to my attention, by an anonymous source(I know you understand) that you had your face on the genitalia of a certain person, in a backroom booth, at a gay bar in D.C. So, can I put you down for a "YES" for my show?

  • Posted By: Rhino26.2 @ 02/24/2008 9:16:33 AM

    This article is a perfect example of why some people think Mr. Fineman is a barometer of the MSM. He ignores the widespread journalistic and public revulsion to the Times article. Even other organs of the MSM like the New Republic have taken the Times article apart. Two or three behind the curve of the story, one can only see this article as microscopic and agenda-driven.

  • Posted By: Media Madness @ 02/24/2008 9:04:01 AM

    Fineman's columns are geared for one thing and one thing only ....he must absolutely must get on Hard Ball and Kieths show. This guy is addicted and I mean addictef to seeing his face on TV. Whay has Journalism wrought oh my. We should all chip in and send him to rehab....and then think of all the stories we would be getting and how others would follow. Headlines Barbara Walters entered celebrity rehab today at HOWARD FINEMAN CLINIC.

  • Posted By: Okoboji00 @ 02/24/2008 8:53:04 AM

    I think you missed the real story here, Mr. Fineman. The NY Times has faced an equal amount of scrutiny for printing a "thinly sourced" story against perpetual nemesis: the Republican presidential presidential candidate. For an article dated Saturday, I'm at a loss why your piece doesn't even acknowledge the criticism the Times was forced to endure by many in the mainstream press including its own ombudsman.

  • Posted By: Okoboji00 @ 02/24/2008 8:50:21 AM

    I think you missed the real story here, Mr. Fineman. The NY Times has faced an equal amount of scrutiny for printing a "thinly sourced" story against perpetual nemesis: the Republican presidential presidential candidate. For an article dated Saturday, I'm at a loss why your piece doesn't even acknowledge the criticism the Times was forced to endure by many in the mainstream press including its own ombudsman.

  • Posted By: Reflecting_Pool @ 02/24/2008 4:57:23 AM

    Good, insightful article. Lobbyist get what they want because they have the money clout. Where do they get that money? From the people ... the ordinary citizen-taxpayer-voter. So the money and the votes really come from the ordinary citizen-taxpayer-voter and politicians are elected by the ordinary citizen-taxpayer-voter. But the ordinary citizen-taxpayer-voter gets the hollow shibboleth "lip-service" while only the Lobbyists get the results. What's the lesson. The ordinary citizen-taxpayer-voter needs to develop a learning curve for recognizing these relatively obvious tell-tale signs (circumstance that don't pass the smell test) and start voting for someone else.

  • Posted By: tc125231 @ 02/23/2008 9:45:00 PM

    We have a candidate whose campaign is --in point of fact --staffed by lobbyists at the highest level. Black, who keeps telling us how McCain is not beholden to lobbyists, is himself a power lobbyist.

    Maybe McCain has never betrayed the public trust. However, it's probable OK to be a little skeptical of the judgment of a man who thinks that we can continue a war indefinitely (despite the fact that Nobel Prize winning economist Stiglitz already estimates the overall cost at $3 trillion) while still preserving huge tax cuts for the wealthy. He even thinks he gets to call himself a fiscal conservative.

    I didn't know that living on IOUs was fiscally conservative.

    It should be noted, by the way, that the last time we had "stagflation" it was triggered by Johnson's decision to fund the Vietnam war with deficits. The was done for the same reason it is being done now --the public at large didn't see the value and didn't want to pay for it.

    So if McCain expects me to believe in this press mirage of his extreme integrity, he better either drop the no new tax nonsense, and come up for a funding mechanism for his little war, or give up the war (unlikely), or quit claiming that he's a fiscal conservative. As things stands, he's just another guy who wants to give tax cuts to his rich pals, while leaving my kids to pay for this war he claims is so important.

    Maybe it is. If so, show some integrity. Fund it with something besides IOUs on my kids' future.

    So don't tell me he ha never sold out the public interest. His whole campaign is a sell-out.

  • Posted By: Mwalimu @ 02/23/2008 7:49:04 PM

    Thanks very much for telling the truth that needs to be told. Straight talk or not, does any one honestly believe that the Republican party, the party of the haves, really cares anything about the vast majority of this nationl's and this world's have nots? Look at the record. Look at who's giving donations to McCain and why. Look at who's supporting McCain, and why. Rheotic aside, we're getting the same old, same old. In a Kafkaesque world where all things are possible, this election is like pitting Martin Luther King with Brezhnev. McCain, obviously jealous of all the publicity Obama is gettting, is starting the same old hate and smear routine.(Ever hear the slogan, Don't hate, appreciate? Incidentally, the New York Times article was really old new. Matt Drudge revealed McCain's so-called "affair" last December. The Boston Globe printed the Paxson connection about 8 years ago. Why is the right wing getting upset now> (Source of information: Rachel Maddow, Air America, and a recent article in the Los Angeles Times.)

  • Posted By: pmcs @ 02/23/2008 5:01:36 PM

    This is the Truth about McCain Candidacy:

    McCain for Lobbyists.
    McCain for Corporate Interests.
    McCain of the Lobbyists, McCain by the Lobbyists, and McCain for the Lobbyists.

    There are NO PEOPLE in McCain candidacy.

    Shame on you, McCain!

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 02/23/2008 5:16:28 PM

      Yea your right. This lobbyist story is right up there with this Sinclair and Obama story about crack rock, homo bj's, and lie detector tests.

      Won't they ever learn.

      NOBAMA!!!

  • Posted By: pmcs @ 02/23/2008 5:01:01 PM

    This is the Truth about McCain Candidacy:

    McCain for Lobbyists.
    McCain for Corporate Interests.
    McCain of the Lobbyists, McCain by the Lobbyists, and McCain for the Lobbyists.

    There are NO PEOPLE in McCain candidacy.

    Shame on you, McCain!

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