The Hundred-Years War

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  • Posted By: Chapalody @ 02/27/2008 6:42:59 PM

    Too bad the so-call authors haven't listened closely to the speeches Ahmadinejad has made at the United Nations and in Iran. If they did, they would know it doesn't matter what we think, and what we do in Iraq. Ahmadinejad has plans for Iran and it doesn't matter what the rest of the world thinks. If the so-called authors listened, Ahmadinejad says the same thing every time. Islamic justice and Islamic rule. If we hadn't been attack on 9/11, we would have been attacked on another day. If the so-called authors did what others have done before we were attacked on 9/11 and visited the terrorist websites, they would have known the hatred these terrorist have for Americans. The so-call authors would have read about the day when the terrorist feels will come when they can fly the black flag over Washington. If these so-called authors are so knowledgeable to write books why didn't they sound the alarm before we were attacked. They didn't sound the alarm because they didn't know jack about terrorism until after we were attacked on 9/11. We had to respond in the way we did in Afghanistan and Iraq. It was just that important to show the terrorist we can reach across the oceans to get them, in the same way they reached us to kill Americans. The war in Iraq is not about President Bush or Mr. Republican. It's about showing the terrorist the efforts you go through to kill American's will be met with the same efforts to protect Americans by our leaders.

    • Posted By: apolemic @ 02/28/2008 11:32:09 AM

      I'm a little weary of constantly having to correct right-wing revisionist history, like the long-since discredited yet oft-quoted connection between Al Qaeda and Iraq in 9/11, so I'll just comment on the tone:

      Find another playbook. Hysterical fear-mongering is so 2004.

  • Posted By: JohnHerrera305 @ 02/27/2008 5:38:03 PM

    Point is we should have NEVER invaded Iraq for the reasons the Bush Administratioon explained. It was an illegal war and unjust. We now are in a situation where our troops are trying to control Iraqis who don't want us there because they know they were invaded for no reason. Iraq never posed no iminent threat to the security of the United States. How would we feel if Russia invaded us because they felt we were a threat to their security? We would all be in the streets with guns, grenades, and bombs trying to kill the Russians, that's what would happen.
    Now Iran sees an opportunity to essentially make Iraq a partner in crime.
    Now by invading Iraq, we created a more dangerous situation with Iran.
    We need to hand over Iraq to it's people and let them govern themselves and pull out. The problem is that the Republicans are so proud that they can not and will not ever admit that this war was a mistake and illegal. They will never take responsibility for attacking a nation for no just reason. That's why we have lost the respect of the international community. We are viewed as the world's bully. Shame on Bush, Cheney and McCain. McCain could care less because he will be dead long before this issue is resolved.

    • Posted By: xsoldier @ 02/28/2008 9:22:20 AM

      JohnHerrera305, the problem is that right now, it does not matter how we got there--we are there and we have to figure out a way to exit and not leave it to Iran. Lets not spend valuable time playng the blame game. There were a lot of Democrats that thought the invasion of Iraq was a good idea, saw the intelligence and thought there were WMD--even if they are back peddling now. Both sides of the aisle have some blame here. The Iraq government can't govern themselves if we pull out--for some odd reason people seem to think that the Iraq people can just start running a government. Not going to happen. So--do we abandon these people to live in an oppressive situation worse than Saddam? It really amazes me again how all these "womens groups" do not condemn many of the governments of the world for their treatment of women. If the American people would have some patience, we could leave this country able to defend themselves and run the government.
      Yes, the world community may view us as the bully--but who, if not us, will put a stop to people who want to kill us--all of us--as soon as possible. And yes--there are terrorists in Iraq, and many many other countries in the world. I fear for our nation that we will back down and will just accept a country that is attacked at home on a regular basis like the other countries of the world. We have the opportunity to do this the right way--truly help the Iraq people, and maybe just bring stability to the region. Americans are too impatient. I agree that we do need a solid plan to get this done, and maybe that is what we are lacking...

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 02/28/2008 7:23:54 AM

    WE NEED TO CRUSH AL QUEDA IN PAKISTAN AND GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE.

    LET US REMEMBER BERG. I AM NOT JEWISH, HOWEVER I FEEL THAT WE MUST NEVER FORGET.
    IT IS WORTH THAT yOUNG ARABS AND JEWS FROM ALL BACKGROUNDS START FORMING GROUPS THAT ENCOURAGE THE INTERACTION BETWEEN JEWS ARABS MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS IN THE MIDDLE EAST. SOMETHING LIKE AN NGO. ANyONE FROM ANy BACKGROUND CAN CONTRIBUTE. WITH ONE OBJECTIVE IN MIND. FRIENDLy RELATIONS. NO PRESSURE TO SET FOREIGN POLICy , JUST GETTING THE TWO ADVERSARIES IN THE SAME ROOM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WILL BE IN AMERICA'S AND THE WORLD'S BEST INTEREST. . THAT IS THE FIRST STEP .

    WHEN yOU TRy AND IMPOSE yOUR WILL "ALL OF A SUDDEN" ON THE MASSES, THEN ASSAASSINATIONS LIKE THOSOE OF RABIN, BHUTTO AND KENNEDy ARE INEVITABLE.

    "WHEN ANy ONE INDIVIDUAL BEOMES LARGER THAN THE CAUSE THEy ARE CHAMPIONING THEN THEy THEMSELVES BECOME AN OBSTALE TO THEIR OWN CAUSE" EDDIWHERE 2008.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 02/28/2008 7:23:19 AM

    IN THIS ENVIORNMENT OF ECONOMIC FEUDALISM WHERE THE MIDDLE CLASS MUST SUFFER IN ORDER TO INCREASE THE pROFITS OF MULTINATIONAL CORpORATIONS, WHO BENEFIT FROM CHEAp LABOR, THE AMERICAN DREAM HAS BEEN LOST.
    MULTINALTIONALS FROM INDIA HAVE BROUGHT THEIR CHEAp WAyS TO AMERICA. WE NOW HAVE AMERIANS GOING TO GET HEART SURGERy IN INDIA BEAUSE IT IS CHEApER. OUR INFORMATION TECHNOLy JOBS HAVE BEEN OUTSOURCED TO INDIA.
    CHINA WAITS UNTIL WE INVENT IT AND THEN THEy STEAL IT. WHy REINVENT THE WHEEL.
    ARABS FINANCIERS OWN OVER TWELVER pER CENT OF OUR ECONOMy AND IN RECENT MONTTHS HAVE "BAILED" OUT OUR BANKS. IN ADDITION, ARAB INTEREST FROM DUBAI AND KUWAIT HAVE FINANCED OUR pOLITICAL LEADERS ENDEVOURS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE pOLITICAL SpECTRUM.. IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE.

    We have been fooled by our own government and there is no way any Republican is going to win this election. THE Middle class has had it with all this Bin LADEN terrorist crap. WE are now scared of our own government more than we are of the terrorist because the decisions this government is making on our behalf is not in our best interests and it is killing us. The government is now dominating our civil liberties. They are giving the states millions for Real ID Cards. This is just the start of government intrusion. Combine this with the misuse of the Patriot Act and the future Plans of insurance comPanies and corporations to have full access to our personal records and we have a real crisis.
    Credit Card companies have already started selling and sharing our personal information with the private sector. We really have to wake up and protect our constitution it is all we have to defend ourselves against interests that become too rich and powerful in this country. The government keeps expanding and is being predominantly controlled by special interest and lobbyist. The middle class is being weakened and our civil liberties are being threatened. Real ID Cards will not make "us safer" infacat terrorists can obtain fake ones and move about freely. The American people did not vote on Real ID Cards, we need a vote. Our constitution would have to be ammended in order for Real ID's to become legal. I do not know what has happened in Washington but it is getting out of hand. They know what they are doing is unconstitutional so they are trying to bribe the states by offering them money. I hope every state agrees with me and Prevents the federal govenment from imPosing THIS unconstitutional law. If the states allow the government to do this then they would have set a bad Precedent that could lead to further government violations.
    WHy IS THERE A NEED TO WIRE TAp EVERy CITIZEN. ARE yOU KIDDING ME. yOU NEED A WARRANT. THIS IS MADNESS. THIS IS COMpLETELy UNCONSTITUTIONAL. SURVELLIANCE IS CARRIED OUT OVER A pERIOD OF TIME, WHAT IS SO HARD ABOUT GETTING A WARRANT FOR SUSpECTED TERRORIST.
    GOVERNMENT IS USING TERRORISM AS AN EXCUSE TO INTRUDE ON OUR CIVIL LIBERIES. THIS IS INSANE.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 02/28/2008 7:22:39 AM

    IN THIS ENVIORNMENT OF ECONOMIC FEUDALISM WHERE THE MIDDLE CLASS MUST SUFFER IN ORDER TO INCREASE THE pROFITS OF MULTINATIONAL CORpORATIONS, WHO BENEFIT FROM CHEAp LABOR, THE AMERICAN DREAM HAS BEEN LOST.
    MULTINALTIONALS FROM INDIA HAVE BROUGHT THEIR CHEAp WAyS TO AMERICA. WE NOW HAVE AMERIANS GOING TO GET HEART SURGERy IN INDIA BEAUSE IT IS CHEApER. OUR INFORMATION TECHNOLy JOBS HAVE BEEN OUTSOURCED TO INDIA.
    CHINA WAITS UNTIL WE INVENT IT AND THEN THEy STEAL IT. WHy REINVENT THE WHEEL.
    ARABS FINANCIERS OWN OVER TWELVER pER CENT OF OUR ECONOMy AND IN RECENT MONTTHS HAVE "BAILED" OUT OUR BANKS. IN ADDITION, ARAB INTEREST FROM DUBAI AND KUWAIT HAVE FINANCED OUR pOLITICAL LEADERS ENDEVOURS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE pOLITICAL SpECTRUM.. IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE.

    We have been fooled by our own government and there is no way any Republican is going to win this election. THE Middle class has had it with all this Bin LADEN terrorist crap. WE are now scared of our own government more than we are of the terrorist because the decisions this government is making on our behalf is not in our best interests and it is killing us. The government is now dominating our civil liberties. They are giving the states millions for Real ID Cards. This is just the start of government intrusion. Combine this with the misuse of the Patriot Act and the future Plans of insurance comPanies and corporations to have full access to our personal records and we have a real crisis.
    Credit Card companies have already started selling and sharing our personal information with the private sector. We really have to wake up and protect our constitution it is all we have to defend ourselves against interests that become too rich and powerful in this country. The government keeps expanding and is being predominantly controlled by special interest and lobbyist. The middle class is being weakened and our civil liberties are being threatened. Real ID Cards will not make "us safer" infacat terrorists can obtain fake ones and move about freely. The American people did not vote on Real ID Cards, we need a vote. Our constitution would have to be ammended in order for Real ID's to become legal. I do not know what has happened in Washington but it is getting out of hand. They know what they are doing is unconstitutional so they are trying to bribe the states by offering them money. I hope every state agrees with me and Prevents the federal govenment from imPosing THIS unconstitutional law. If the states allow the government to do this then they would have set a bad Precedent that could lead to further government violations.
    WHy IS THERE A NEED TO WIRE TAp EVERy CITIZEN. ARE yOU KIDDING ME. yOU NEED A WARRANT. THIS IS MADNESS. THIS IS COMpLETELy UNCONSTITUTIONAL. SURVELLIANCE IS CARRIED OUT OVER A pERIOD OF TIME, WHAT IS SO HARD ABOUT GETTING A WARRANT FOR SUSpECTED TERRORIST.
    GOVERNMENT IS USING TERRORISM AS AN EXCUSE TO INTRUDE ON OUR CIVIL LIBERIES. THIS IS INSANE.

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 02/28/2008 4:41:35 AM

    WE NEED TO CRUSH AL QUEDA IN PAKISTAN AND GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE.

    LET US REMEMBER BERG. I AM NOT JEWISH, HOWEVER I FEEL THAT WE MUST NEVER FORGET.
    IT IS WORTH THAT yOUNG ARABS AND JEWS FROM ALL BACKGROUNDS START FORMING GROUPS THAT ENCOURAGE THE INTERACTION BETWEEN JEWS ARABS MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS IN THE MIDDLE EAST. SOMETHING LIKE AN NGO. ANyONE FROM ANy BACKGROUND CAN CONTRIBUTE. WITH ONE OBJECTIVE IN MIND. FRIENDLy RELATIONS. NO PRESSURE TO SET FOREIGN POLICy , JUST GETTING THE TWO ADVERSARIES IN THE SAME ROOM AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE WILL BE IN AMERICA'S AND THE WORLD'S BEST INTEREST. . THAT IS THE FIRST STEP .

    WHEN yOU TRy AND IMPOSE yOUR WILL "ALL OF A SUDDEN" ON THE MASSES, THEN ASSAASSINATIONS LIKE THOSOE OF RABIN, BHUTTO AND KENNEDy ARE INEVITABLE.

    "WHEN ANy ONE INDIVIDUAL BEOMES LARGER THAN THE CAUSE THEy ARE CHAMPIONING THEN THEy THEMSELVES BECOME AN OBSTALE TO THEIR OWN CAUSE" EDDIWHERE 2008.

    EDDIEWHERE © 2008

  • Posted By: burbank @ 02/27/2008 4:07:51 AM

    Despite the fact that we are winning in Iraq does nothing to deter the cut and run poltroons from conceding defeat and leaving before the job is done. I can't help but wonder what would have happened had the US followed Mr. Dickey's advice and left Europe or the Pacfic in 1944? Messrs. Dickey, Finegold,Reid et.al. have no spine when it comes to a fight. They are cowards. Perhaps a "nuanced dialogue" with despots and tyrants would bring the peace they so desperately seek. Oh ,wait. That was tried once before on September 30, 1938. The Munich Agreement concerning Czechoslovakia which permitted German annexation of Czechoslovakis's Sudetenland. Surely Mr. Dickey you remember the consequences of that little arrangement? In fact, it was the United States that pulled your bacon out of the fire then, and it is the United States now that is on the point shedding American blood in defense of something you can never fully appreciate sir, because you lack the backbone to stand and fight. Now, run home and hide behind the skirts of your women. Cower in fear for you and others like you have become the Men of Munich of the 21st century. And because of your appeasement philosophy brave women fight and die. Their blood is on your hands. Now Mr. Dickey, go enjoy YOUR oysters.

    • Posted By: clannad @ 02/27/2008 11:21:26 AM

      Please do not equate WWii with the war in Iraq,that was an honourable war but the war in Iraq is the equivalent of the Roman empire imposing its Pax Romana on the world by saying we are only trying to bring civilization to the world by imposing our form of democracy..How arrogant! remember what happened to the Roman Empire or do you not follow history my friend

      • Posted By: burbank @ 02/27/2008 10:15:17 PM

        I do follow history, which is why the analogy to 1938 and Munich Agreemnent is relevant to the current situtation in Iraq. By seeking to appease Hitler the governments of Great Britian, and France thought they could avoid war with Italy and Germany. They thought that diplomacy would carry the day...they were wrong. The only thing diplomacy does is buy time for despots and dictators to finalize their diabolical machinations then strike at a time of their choosing. The idea that Iraq did not figure into the terror network and therefore should not have been attacked was debunked by Yousef Bodansky the House Chair on counter terrorism and unconventional warfare in his book, The Secret War In Iraq, which proves Saddam's complicity in sponsoring terror and formenting unrest in the Middle East. And if your refference to Pax Romana were correct, then we would have over stayed our welcome in Europe at the end of World War II, instead of leaving and letting those newly liberated governments determine their own destiny. In fact, the only thing we left in Europe at the end of the hostilites were the bodies of our servicemen and women who paid the ultimate sacrifice so that others could live in freedom.

    • Posted By: RTGO @ 02/27/2008 10:31:19 AM

      burbank,
      you made a red herring analogy when you compared an Iraq war "what if" with World War II success.And there is a HUGE difference: In WWII the war was justified ON TRUTH and the definition of success clear. In the Iraq war the justification was based on a LIE and the definition of success ever shifting.

      It is too bad for the war mongers that they are unable to maintain their vice-grip lock on the American people using fear and lies. It is abundantly clear that the American people are no longer listening to this lying war rhetoric and twisted logic such as what you are spewing on this bloggs.

      What I find most interesting about the war mongers is that are vehemently in favor of a never ending war but are the main ones doing everything they can to avoid fighting and paying for the war. But...the war mongers are the first in line to take the SPOILS of war. Go FIGURE.

  • Posted By: ARGOS-PANOPTES @ 02/27/2008 6:57:16 PM

    ???Perception is reality??? is a mantra that has seduced susceptible participants to abandon critical faculties and to disconnect from the three-dimensional universe. America was led to war by its government on a weave of fabrications and hollow claims which challenge universal laws. But those laws can be kept at bay for just so long. The perception of the American army being this amazing and unequaled fighting force was squandered by its own government. The principles that former American presidents were trying to negotiate into other cultures, are being imposed on other countries which have neither asked, nor wanted them in the first place. The sympathy the American people enjoyed has been replaced by contempt from people that at one time were considered friendly to the US??? So what has Bush accomplished with its type of government? To evidence that the perception of greatness the US once enjoyed is not the reality that they propose other countries to embrace.

  • Posted By: clannad @ 02/27/2008 1:43:41 PM

    to xsoldier...The extremists are criminal no one denies that but you are missing the point being an army of occupation creates more extremists and they have been condemed by all but we are reacting out of fear and not the moral high ground.Many soldiers currently serving in both theatres have lost the belief that what we are doing makes sense,what are you proposing that we put an army in every country to maintain the illusion of safety? we cannot because we are fighting a war of attrition which will eventually drain us of resources and personnel or are you suggesting we nuke everybody then we will have a safe planet to ourselves or can we look at alternatives like communication.There are many things one can do for ones country other than going to war,like prevent one,peace is a better alternative.
    By the way the terrorists are in Afghanistan not in Irag

    • Posted By: xsoldier @ 02/27/2008 5:00:46 PM


      are you sure you know how the soldiers feel about being over there? Are you one--have you served there--or are you just hearing the media. Of course I do not think we can put an Army in every country and have the world safe. THE WORLD IS NEVER GOING TO BE SAFE AGAIN. Peace is always a better alternative, but we have to be realistic. We can't "talk peace" to people who do not believe in it--thier very moral/religious fiber is to kill infidels. Communication does not work here--you will never convince these people that peace is the best option. All I am saying is that we just can't ignore the problem and expect it to go away. We need to finish the job in Iraq and we need to insure our country can be safe. Being an Army of occupation does create some extremists, but if you think if we pull out of Iraq we won't have any more, you are mistaken. You are right, you can do things for your country other than go to war, but not understanding the problem and talking down the government is not one of them.. Charity for those involved is a good option.

  • Posted By: littleguy @ 02/27/2008 4:44:01 PM

    "We dropped two nukes on Japan and they still came back and conquered us with economics"- false statement - competition in not conquest.
    "We wage a cold war with the Chinese and we end up borrowing money from them." False statement - the vast majority of the Cold War was fought against the Soviets.
    "if George had stayed focus on the true target in Afghanistan,AlQaeda would not have been in Iraq." - false statement. There were elements of Al Qaeda in Iraq at the time of the war - it probably is true that more insurgents went there after we went in so this statement is partially true.
    The truth about this war is that it is not been fought for the right reasons we have allowed politicians with hidden agendas( like putting more oil revenues into their pockets) - emotional statement that has no support.
    "Have we not learnt anything from history" - I don't think you have

  • Posted By: clannad @ 02/27/2008 3:08:22 PM

    To wryobserver..........The thing about war is that it comes back to haunt you, even the victor....We dropped two nukes on Japan and they still came back and conquered us with economics.We wage a cold war with the Chinese and we end up borrowing money from them.So as they say be careful what you wish for.John McCain wants to continue the war in Iraq,against AlQaeda but if George had stayed focus on the true target in Afghanistan,AlQaeda would not have been in Iraq.Have we not learnt anything from history ,never fight a war on two fronts you are splitting your resources.Hitler did this and failed.
    If the Republicans were serious about the truth of this conflict the war would have been over long ago and so many of our patriots would not have been killed.
    The truth about this war is that it is not been fought for the right reasons we have allowed politicians with hidden agendas( like putting more oil revenues into their pockets)to turn us into cannon fodder.That is not patriotism that is greed!

  • Posted By: set2free @ 02/27/2008 1:56:18 PM

    If you think for an instant that you can talk to your enemy in this war and settle for their own war manuel states agree with your enemy them kill him bt beheading him. with that as their goal the only things they understand is absolute force to wipe them out and push them back to the dark ages in the hills. Destruction and blood shed is their only weapon to create fear which is what we fear most. the uncertainty of the moment. Even as Thomas Jefferson pushed them out of North Africa in 1700 they have to be "push" back to a place where thy fear the loss of life and limb and all possesions if it includes civilians losses as they would inflict upon us. Take out their cities and religious sites because they only fear absolute power. It makes no difference who is in office the fight will be carried to the whole world unless we stand and fight as in WWII burn and bomb their sites destroy what they hold sacred. Yes it sounds inhumane to bomb and burn but this is what they understand best. We have more to fear than fear itself

  • Posted By: wryobserver @ 02/27/2008 1:55:12 PM

    to clannad: If you would have taken the time to read my comment more carefully, you would have noticed I did not say the Iraqi government ???was stable,??? but that we have a duty to make it so. Regarding the location of terrorists, I guess the group ???Al Qaeda in Iraq??? means nothing to you. As for your comment about drinking Kool-Aid, you employ a favorite game of liberals: whenever you disagree with one, they immediately label you a racist (or sexist or, my favorite, intolerant). As Obama wraps up the nomination, you will see this game played with increasing fervor. The leftist media will stick the ???racist??? label on anyone with any criticism (valid or otherwise) of this anointed boy-king/secular messiah.

  • Posted By: dmc24 @ 02/27/2008 1:15:54 PM

    I would love to "finish what we started" but the way we're doing it is obviously not working. As for giving everyone a chance at democracy - that's a great sentiment but you can't force a culture, political, social or otherwise, on a group of people. U.S. forces were also the best equipped and trained in the world during Vietnam and you see how that turned out. Being in Iraq is not making this country any safer and it's not doing much for Iraq, either. It's time to cut our losses and stop throwing good money after bad.

    • Posted By: yuri.zavorotny @ 02/27/2008 1:41:03 PM

      Posted By: dmc24 @ 02/27/2008 1:15:54 PM
      "Comment: I would love to "finish what we started" but the way we're doing it is obviously not working."

      No, it is working. The violence is down, the political process is moving (the recent law enabling provinicial election later this year). Why not continue and see where this momentum will take us?

      "As for giving everyone a chance at democracy - that's a great sentiment but you can't force a culture, political, social or otherwise, on a group of people."

      Like US did in Japan? Yes, there were failures, like in Vietnam, but there were sucesses too. So it is possible to bring democarcy to the place like Iraq. And if the momentum is on our side, it does not make any sense to cut and run.

  • Posted By: clannad @ 02/27/2008 1:18:31 PM

    Yes conservatives are war mongers and no the iraqi government is not stable because its existence is dependent on men like sadr who hates us,when is the failure of GWB the fault of clinton,I suppose the lack of armoured vehicles in 2003-2008 is Clinton`s fault even though he was out of office for mor than 2 years which in your own words the GWB government couldn`t rectify just goes to show you the man`s influence goes beyond imagination.....By the way the army the marines and the navy all complain that they have not been getting the support or supplies that they ahve requested from the GWB gov...Rumsfeld told a soldier who complained about the lack of equipment that he should fight with what he had been supplied with....Just recently the Marines have ordered an investigation into the delay and possible criminal neglect of the leadership of the corp ....or is this Clinton`s doing as well?By the way is accusing someone of drinking Kool Aid a new racist code word?

  • Posted By: wryobserver @ 02/27/2008 12:54:39 PM

    So, conservatives are warmongers b/c they advocate finishing what we started by allowing a stable government to take root in Iraq? Fine. Unlike you (& most elitist liberals), I believe everyone should have a chance at democracy, not merely certain countries. By the way, the US armed forces are the best equipped & trained in the world (as much as that probably pains you to hear). Much of the alleged lack of supplies can be attributed to Clinton's decimation of the military's ranks. Like yourself, he was another liberal who chose to ignore the danger of Islamofascism (I'm talking about the first Trade Center bombing, Khobar Towers bombing, 2 African embassy bombings and the USS Cole bombing--in case all the Kool-Aid you've been drinking has allowed you to forget).

  • Posted By: yuri.zavorotny @ 02/27/2008 12:51:49 PM

    Dikey have all the reasons to avoid fight, his position is indefensible. Leaving now, when thing just started to get better is a nonsense.

    In what capacity US troops needs to stay when Iraqis start to take over? As an insurance and as proof of US commitment. Leaving now can cause all hell break loose, staying will maintain the current momentum.

    Iraq is a failed state? Well, may be this is a good time for breaking it up (a loose confederation, or something). Before the surge the argument against breaking up Iraq was that Anbar will become an al-Qaeda heaven. But had anyone noticed that this is the first time since the war has started when all three major Iraq fractions -- Kurds, Sunny and Shia -- become friendly to US?

  • Posted By: yuri.zavorotny @ 02/27/2008 12:51:19 PM

    Dikey have all the reasons to avoid fight, his position is indefensible. Leaving now, when thing just started to get better is a nonsense.

    In what capacity US troops needs to stay when Iraqis start to take over? As an insurance and as proof of US commitment. Leaving now can cause all hell break loose, staying will maintain the current momentum.

    Iraq is a failed state? Well, may be this is a good time for breaking it up (a loose confederation, or something). Before the surge the argument against breaking up Iraq was that Anbar will become an al-Qaeda heaven. But had anyone noticed that this is the first time since the war has started when all three major Iraq fractions -- Kurds, Sunny and Shia -- become friendly to US?

  • Posted By: clannad @ 02/27/2008 12:30:44 PM

    To wryobserver.............It is your comments that are pathetic.....you conservatives are really coming across as rabid warmongers and trust me we will be well rid of your government in Nov..By the way it is your conservative Generals in the Pentagon that is jeopardizing the troops safety by not giving them armour vehicles that were needed in Iraq and afghanistan or have you chosen to ignore that inconvienient truth

  • Posted By: wryobserver @ 02/27/2008 12:09:46 PM

    Just more pathetic liberal blather undermining our success and our troops' safety. Shouldn't you be writing about how great Obama is anyway?

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