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  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 03/03/2008 4:31:35 AM

    Comment: IN THIS ENVIORNMENT OF ECONOMIC FEUDALISM WHERE THE MIDDLE CLASS MUST SUFFER IN ORDER TO INCREASE THE pROFITS OF MULTINATIONAL CORpORATIONS, WHO BENEFIT FROM CHEAp LABOR, THE AMERICAN DREAM HAS BEEN LOST.
    MULTINALTIONALS FROM INDIA HAVE BROUGHT THEIR CHEAp WAyS TO AMERICA. WE NOW HAVE AMERIANS GOING TO GET HEART SURGERy IN INDIA BEAUSE IT IS CHEApER. OUR INFORMATION TECHNOLy JOBS HAVE BEEN OUTSOURCED TO INDIA.
    CHINA WAITS UNTIL WE INVENT IT AND THEN THEy STEAL IT. WHy REINVENT THE WHEEL.
    ARABS FINANCIERS OWN OVER TWELVER pER CENT OF OUR ECONOMy AND IN RECENT MONTTHS HAVE "BAILED" OUT OUR BANKS. IN ADDITION, ARAB INTEREST FROM DUBAI AND KUWAIT HAVE FINANCED OUR pOLITICAL LEADERS ENDEVOURS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE pOLITICAL SpECTRUM.. IT IS TIME FOR A CHANGE.

    We have been fooled by our own government and there is no way any Republican is going to win this election. THE Middle class has had it with all this Bin LADEN terrorist crap. WE are now scared of our own government more than we are of the terrorist because the decisions this government is making on our behalf is not in our best interests and it is killing us. The government is now dominating our civil liberties. They are giving the states millions for Real ID Cards. This is just the start of government intrusion. Combine this with the misuse of the Patriot Act and the future Plans of insurance comPanies and corporations to have full access to our personal records and we have a real crisis.
    Credit Card companies have already started selling and sharing our personal information with the private sector. We really have to wake up and protect our constitution it is all we have to defend ourselves against interests that become too rich and powerful in this country. The government keeps expanding and is being predominantly controlled by special interest and lobbyist. The middle class is being weakened and our civil liberties are being threatened. Real ID Cards will not make "us safer" infacat terrorists can obtain fake ones and move about freely. The American people did not vote on Real ID Cards, we need a vote. Our constitution would have to be ammended in order for Real ID's to become legal. I do not know what has happened in Washington but it is getting out of hand. They know what they are doing is unconstitutional so they are trying to bribe the states by offering them money. I hope every state agrees with me and Prevents the federal govenment from imPosing THIS unconstitutional law. If the states allow the government to do this then they would have set a bad Precedent that could lead to further government violations.
    WHy IS THERE A NEED TO WIRE TAp EVERy CITIZEN. ARE yOU KIDDING ME. yOU NEED A WARRANT. THIS IS MADNESS. THIS IS COMpLETELy UNCONSTITUTIONAL. SURVELLIANCE IS CARRIED OUT OVER A pERIOD OF TIME, WHAT IS SO HARD ABOUT GETTING A WARRANT FOR SUSpECTED TERRORIST.
    GOVERNMENT

  • Posted By: Winter360 @ 03/02/2008 9:32:55 PM

    Comment: Well Jimbo, it seems you're the one who hasn't gotten past the GOP talking points on this issue to the actual sustance of it. There are 2 conflated issues here. First is the telecom immunity in the bill, which has jack to do with expanded surveillance powers.. The telecoms are being sued for illegal domestic spying (wiretapping - without warrants.) You know, to include that program so patently illegal that the upper ranks of the DOJ threatened to resign over it in 2004? Domestic. That's spying on US citizens. And clearly telecom companies behaved illegally, or they wouldn't require retroactive immunity. Then there's the expanded warrantless eavesdropping powers the administration wants without real oversight. Foreign to foreign international calls don't require warrants and I haven't seen any proof, other than the administration's word, that anyone's ruled you need to have them when the call is routed through the US. A fix for that would be simple, straightforward and noncontroverisal, though. But instead, they want to be freer to spy on Americans - on US soil - when they make or recieve an international call., so long as they're not the primary target. And eavesdropping on Americans in America has required a warrant. And should continue to require a warrant. And maybe guys named Jimbo can't quite wrap their heads around the whole thing, but they might stop criticizing others' takes on it,

  • Posted By: pointus @ 03/02/2008 8:18:28 PM

    Comment: Immunity will pass the house by this time next week. The House leadership (Pelosi & Hoyer) are pushing an immunity provision, to be voted on separately from the FISA "upgrade". But there are still enough votes, between the united GOP caucus and right-wing Democrats, to pass immunity. Keep watching, and weep as our once great republic (and the Bill of Rights) swirls down the toilet.

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