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Oil's Bright Future: Hess
THE FUTURE OF ENERGY

Why We Can’t Quit

Even at $100 a barrel, oil is still cheaper than a Starbucks latte.

 
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At the age of 7, when most kids are climbing trees, John Hess was surveying foreign oilfields. The son of Leon Hess, a forceful entrepreneur who built a small home-heating business in New Jersey into a global oil company, the younger Hess immersed himself in the oil world from an early age, studying Arabic and Farsi to better connect with Middle Eastern oil executives. Now the CEO of Hess Corp., he's become an advocate for energy conservation and investment in alternative fuels. NEWSWEEK'S Fareed Zakaria spoke to him about the new world of $100-a-barrel oil, and the likelihood of an energy crisis. Excerpts:

Zakaria: Why has oil moved over $100 a barrel?
Hess:
We've moved from a supply-led market to a demand-led one. In the past, the world has relied on OPEC's spare capacity, which in 1985 was 10 million barrels per day. Today that number is about 2.5 million barrels a day. We no longer have a safety margin to ensure price stability in the face of supply interruptions and demand spikes. Right now it's hard to see any relief in sight. Then there's demand. About 50 percent of oil demand is for transportation, and auto ownership in the developing countries is growing swiftly, especially in India and China. Goldman Sachs estimates that by 2050, they could have 1.1 billion cars on the road, up from just 20 million three years ago. That's an overwhelming increase in the need for automotive fuel. Put those two things together—limited supply and increasing demand—and you get high oil prices.

Oil prices have quintupled in the past six years, from $20 to $100 a barrel. Why hasn't that weakened demand?
I think that's been a huge surprise to everyone. I remember meeting with government officials when oil was heading towards $25, and they thought economic disaster was around the corner. They thought the same thing at $50 and $75 a barrel. The reason we've withstood the increase is that consumer income has grown faster than energy expenditures have. We spend about 6 percent of our income on energy, down from 8 percent 20 years ago. Energy just isn't the largest or most important item in our personal spending. Even after the recent price increases, gasoline is still two times less than the cost of Evian water, and 10 times less than a Starbucks latte.

Do high oil prices make affordable new methods of recovery that weren't possible before?
Definitely. They have increased investment in exploration and production, which is currently about $350 billion a year. Some of that money is going to new frontiers, like deep water. Ten years ago you wouldn't even think of drilling in 7,000 feet of water. Now people are doing that in the Gulf of Mexico, Brazil and West Africa. There are also unconventional oil resources now being brought to the market, including shale oil from tar sands.

Will that solve the supply problem?
No. The two big tar-sands deposits are in Canada and Venezuela. They produce 1.7 million barrels a day of it, and, if everything goes right, that could be 4 million barrels a day by 2015. But the world is consuming 86 million barrels a day, and each year we use 1 to 1.5 million barrels a day more than we did the year before. An extra 4 million barrels, while nice to have, is a drop in the bucket. We don't just need more investment in tar sands; we need a whole new oil province every year, a new Azerbaijan or Alaskan North Slope. The recent discoveries in Brazil's Santos Basin are very exciting, and very promising. But you're probably not going to get much new supply from it until eight or 10 years from now, and by then we're going to need a new one at least as big.

 
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  • Posted By: smokey_joe @ 03/30/2008 1:18:42 PM

    Comment: The final answer to Leon Hess and Fareed Zakaria is: "Yes we can quit OPEC oil by means of ethanol from biomass which will only cost one-third or less of the current cost of gasoline".

  • Posted By: david-fahey @ 03/22/2008 9:33:40 AM

    Comment: fareed; do you know how many of the u.s. wellls that were capped in texas and okla. etc. during 'cheap oil' remain capped despite record oil prices? and how many 2000 dollars would it take to buy a bbl. of oil today?

  • Posted By: smokey_joe @ 03/20/2008 9:00:37 PM

    Comment: To my knowledge, there is no such thing as a "water-powered car". Do you mean a hydrogen-powered car? The problem with most sources of hydrogen is that you have to consume the same energy in a fossil fuel in order produce hydrogen fuel. Hydrogen is difficult to store because it is so light and it easily escapes most container vessels.
    Coskata Corporation ( www.coskata.com ) has stated that they can produce ethanol from non-food biomass for LESS THAN $1.00 PER GALLON in their joint announcement with General Motors Corporation. When their output volume increases to the level of imported OPEC oil, we will have achieved energy independence and the US economy will be restored to its former vibrancy. When ethanol from biomass becomes the dominant supplier in the American fuels marketplace, the threat of declining lifestyle in America will be eliminated and we can once again look forward to rising aspirations for future generations of Americans. When America becomes an ethanol exporter to the world, our trade deficit will be eliminated.

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