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The Toxic Power of Racism

Recent studies document the harmful effects of discrimination on our health.

 
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  • Posted By: tdvs @ 04/19/2008 2:51:44 PM

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  • Posted By: xoegirlpower29 @ 04/03/2008 1:59:39 PM

    Comment: the best part of this story is:

    that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us

    this has nothing to do with the color of ones skin...it is simple...if you live your life with this basic moral you should will be a fine person...i think John Lennon says it best in the song "IMAGINE"

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  • Posted By: bob j @ 03/29/2008 5:32:23 AM

    Comment: ya'all know how black folks eat? well on the weekends we goes down to the potatoe sheds and gets some throw outts and uses em fo bakers,,then we gets some dandelion greens and some plantin fo make collud greens ,then boys shoot couple squirrels with 22 and then go find some farmas field an get watermellon,get ourselves a possum, and we has a bar-b que, it good and the left overs last all week, no eaaten thet fast food stuff fo us,leave that to the white folks ,who get there food spit in cause folks worken fo low wages in fast food place dont like em.

    • Posted By: truthbe @ 04/14/2008 23:38:16

      Comment: bob j: I really hope that you're trying to make a joke, although there's nothing funny about your comment. My black friends don't talk like that and I know that white folks spit in the food as well - I know some people who work at fast food places and the things they do are pretty disgusting. What was your point? Are you trying to keep a stereotype alive? Shame on you.

  • Posted By: meghan21578 @ 03/28/2008 3:04:42 PM

    Comment: Maybe racism does make you sick, but maybe it doesn't...who really cares??

    The fact that it appears that there would be more white on black crime is because anytime it does happen it is all over the news. BUT when there is a black on white brutal murder for no apparent reason, it doesn't make it off the local news. Case in point, the white man who was brutally beaten by 4 black boys on a ramp of a train station.
    Read the story http://www.philly.com/inquirer/front_page/20080328_Subway_attack_was_to_amuse__police_say.html

  • Posted By: jenny7 @ 03/28/2008 11:05:54 AM

    Comment: I think racism is a waste of time . Working in the Nursing field helped me to understand that. I think every racist needs to work in a Nursing Home so that they can see that all their hate was a waste of time, If you live long enough life will prove it. .You will get to see that noone is better than anyone. You all will be reduced to a bed and a nightstand, You will get to see white and black flesh dissintegrate. Everyone will be the same and noone will have anything except the hope , (That they did good enough for
    God's mercy). Also. 9 times out of 10 , it will be a black Nursing Assistant who will watch you take your last breath.

  • Posted By: Mooky_joe @ 03/27/2008 10:55:55 PM

    Comment: Even though I agree with most of what you say , i still find it hard to ignore racism, not the direct kind when people are openly racism first because I am a big man and cowards rarely look me in the eye and do or say racist things to me but as a fairly sucessful Black Man it's the looks and snid remarks under some Whites breathe when we are some place where We so called don't belong , ei the penthouse at trumps plaza or a suit at the dophin hotel in Disney world or a first class restaurant . these remarks hurt especially when I have my family with me . It's hard not to confront this bigotry. then people wonder why you're angery. I don't expect every White person I meet to be a racist bigot so why must I pay for every black criminal. So next time you pass me Man I don't want your wallet or your White women I just want to get on down the street and you more than likely don't have enough money in your wallet to temp me maybe I can help You!

  • Posted By: eddiewhere @ 03/27/2008 5:06:05 PM

    Comment: EVER ONE IS RACIST IN WA OR ANTOTHER. AS HUMANS WE LIKE AND DISLIKE THINGS ACCORDING TO HOW THE LOOK. THIS IS A SCIENTIFIC FACT. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH ONL FEELING COMFORTABLE AROUND OUR OWN KIND. WE SHOULD NOT BE FORCED TO LIVE WITH OTHER RACES UNLESS WE WANT TOO. THERE ARE BLACKS WHO DO NOT WANT TO LIVE IN WHITE NEIGHBORHOODS.
    THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A pERFECT WORLD. RACISM IS NATURAL. IT IS HOW WE DEAL WITH IT. IF RACISM ENCOURAGES ONE TO COMMIT A CRIME THEN IT IS A SICKNESS.

  • Posted By: man-z @ 03/27/2008 4:41:18 PM

    Comment: Black against white violence? Dude, white people have been committing crimes against black since the slavery period. Whites have killed whole cities of black people, and they were never held accounted for there actions! They would hang black men and have a picnic afterwards! These things are not evening recorded by the Department of Justice! Look through history! Talk to an elderly black person or even an elderly white person! Who commits more crime against who?

  • Posted By: man-z @ 03/27/2008 4:40:15 PM

    Comment: Black against white violence? Dude, white people have been committing crimes against black since the slavery period. Whites have killed whole cities of black people, and they were never held accounted for there actions! They would hang black men and have a picnic afterwards! These things are not evening recorded by the Department of Justice! Look through history! Talk to an elderly black person or even an elderly white person! Who commits more crime against who?

  • Posted By: mjhn @ 03/27/2008 12:13:50 PM

    Comment: Yesterday on NPR's Forum, public health researchers discussed the effects of race and socioeconomic status on health outcomes. Tonight is the showing of "Unnatural Causes" on PBS, a documentary on health disparities - I recommend this if you're interested in learning more about this article's topic!

    While diet is of course largely responsible for health issues, so too is the access to fresh fruits and vegetables and the affordability of these commodities. To blame the victims (African-American or other groups with statistically poorer health) for making decisions they don't have complete control over is ill-productive and gives the impression that it is acceptable for us to abandon our charge to take care of our fellow neighbors that are obviously suffering from these health disparities.

    Of course racism affects health. Having no control over your heritage and having others judge you based on your appearance is an understandable source of stress. That racism seems to play out in health care (as some studies seem to suggest...?) is an incredibly unfortunate outcome, if it's true. Health care is a service that operates on principles of integrity and ethics... it should be indiscriminate.

    • Posted By: noelcd @ 03/27/2008 16:21:27

      Comment: Unlike you I think it about time black folks stop blaming others for the choices they make in life. Fresh foods are the cheapest stuff in the grocery store. Fast foods, sodas, eating out are expensive. You can also plant a backyard/window garden for things like tomatoes, sweet peppers, herbs.

      I am black and probably have been judged many times over and could not be bothered one way or the other. Because whilst they are judging me I am busy getting on with my life. That is the best revenge for racist folks.

      • Posted By: THE RAVEN @ 03/27/2008 17:54:38

        Comment: So--you're saying that all balck people have to do to ward off the negative health effects of racism is to plant a garden and eat fresh fruits and veggies? Man--HOW OLD ARE YOU? You must have been raised in a cave. If you think you can just turn your back, and everything is going to be all right--I feel sorry for you when reality smacks you in the face--HARD. And do you think YOU are the only black person like--YOU?
        Ok--I will agree with your last two sentences--but you are making this issue too simplistic, young man.
        If you do not confront racism face to face, one day you will find a knife sticking out of your back. And all the fresh fruits and vegetables in the world won't help that!

  • Posted By: noelcd @ 03/27/2008 10:18:36 AM

    Comment: After the dust settles on this election we will come to the realization that when a man come to you with a HOPE&CHANGE message you need to clarify and confirm. Moreover people respond to a message based on their own experiences. When I listened to Obama I heard a populist voice like Hugo Chavez and the CONS outweighed the PROS. For folks like Hugo Chavez burst upon the scene with an agenda to divide and conquer. The most obvious ploy is to pitch rich versus poor. Note Pasor Wright rail against the rich white folks & in Obama message that gets toned down to be the Washinton Lobbyists (but it is the same thing). But not satified with that he subtly pitch blacks & browns versus the rest - a rather incendiary mix.

    With respect to the issue under discussion, rather that look at the end result why not focus on the root causes? One of the most obvious factor is the differing eating habits. The diet of African-Americans (rich/poor) diet leaves a lot to be desired. And there is something to be said when I attended my doctor (who happens to be black) and he marveled at my robust health - he swears I will live to 100 yrs. To quote him - every black person have lots of health issues by the time they are my age (mid-thirties). Yet my vital signs exhibited no trace of degeneration. Why is that? I do not eat fast food, canned foods, processed foods, soul food, soft drinks, ... Or maybe it is my gene pool - my great grandmother lived to 107 years and my grandmother to 98 years. Either way how can we say that this is a manifestation of racism.

    • Posted By: THE RAVEN @ 03/27/2008 12:45:47

      Comment: Well, if he's black, he MUST speak for ALL blacks, huh? You white people are sick. Maybe you people live longer because you perpetrate racism. Maybe racism makes you racist pigs feel good, and live longer, racist lives. And of course, no white people eat fast foods, canned foods, processed foods....you moron. And ALL black people eat "soul food", too, right? Have you not seen all the fat a$$ white people bouncing around America. We are the fatest country on the planet, and it's not because of black people, stupid. Get yourself another doctor--if he tells you such ignorant things about black people, he's probably lying about how good your health is. But how hard is it to have good health in your mid-thirties--nut?

      • Posted By: umkano2 @ 04/17/2008 17:05:06

        Comment: Hey Raven. If things are so bad here why don't most of you go to Africa? Maybe because Black on Black killing is there as well? I mean really, If you and anyone else do not like the lack of change in America, move to another country. I would if i were you. As a women, i would never go to Africa, black women here have it made compared to Africans. Go away. Black men make all kinds of excuses for not caring for thier children and that -THAT- is the real reason our race sucks fro the most part. Black men. So, go away. I have found a wonderful man who wants to stay with me, and yes, he is Asian, never black. Men are the problem, especially black men. Talk about an ego who will use any excuss in the book.

      • Posted By: noelcd @ 03/27/2008 15:09:46

        Comment: Apologies, I forgot to state that I am black. I have read some of your posts and you are an angry soul. It can only harm your health. Read on to get my point ...

        According to article, stress is a key contributing risk factor to the health situation for blacks. And statistics may well show this to be a valid causative agent. However, can we imagine that black folks are blameless? Let me elaborate a bit. Say I attend a church (like Pastor Wright) that injects me with hate and suspicion against whites on a weekly basis. Then during the week I will be on the lookout for the evil intent of these white folks. Every glance or word I may well magnify as a slight on my person. Naturally, that will cause me stress and it will most certainly undermine my health. To rule this out as a factor then compare non-American blacks vs. American blacks. You may find there is a real difference in the level of stress as a consequence of racism. Not that I am saying that biases do not exist. But the ATTITUDE with which the two groupings handle the situation is vastly different. One grouping receives it as a put down (stress induced moment) and the other grouping sees it as an affirmation that these white folks are indeed ignorant and needs to be helped along to a greater level of awareness (stress relief moment).

        To sum up - ATTITUDE is what separates winners from losers ....

        • Posted By: THE RAVEN @ 03/27/2008 17:37:00

          Comment: You'll a black man, noelcd? Well, I guess you MUST be right, then, huh? I mean... if you say this and that about black people, and YOU yourself is black--YOU MUST BE RIGHT!
          However...I'm sure you understand why I made the mistake of calling you white, don't you?
          Your condescending, cavalier attitude reek of honkism.
          I've read some of YOUR postings, too--and I wonder how can you write anything while kissing yourself. No wonder you are in great shape!
          Ah, the ANGRY BLACK MAN ploy! Or, in your case, the "angry soul" tactic. Tell me something. Why is it that you white people--(oh, I'm sorry--you're black, aren't you?) are always quick to label a black person angry when they do not claim to love you, them...whatever? Or say something you-they (I'm getting confused, now!) don't like to hear?
          Believe me, black man, I am far from being an angry soul. I'm about 15-20 years older than you, and I probably look only several years older. I have never smoked a cigarette in my life, don't drink or eat that crap you accused black people of eating, played ALL sports while growing up, and ran track all the way to college. Never been hospitalized, never had an operation, don't have high blood pressure, 5 feet, ten inches tall, 155 pounds, have two college degrees, a nice, cozy job, a beautiful BLACK woman, my daughter who has just recently been accepted at Wilmington college in Wilmigtom, Ohio(Pre-Med, I might add), ....well, you get my point.
          I don't have a problem with you or your views--free country. But judging by your comments--YOU ARE FULL OF YOUSELF!

  • Posted By: Ruthless Toothless @ 03/27/2008 12:30:05 AM

    Comment: Yeah, this guy has us crying about "RACISM" but does he mention that black males rape 40,000 White females every year? White males rape less than 10 black females by comparison.

    How about that? Instead of moaning and groaning about "Racism" let's talk real crime and violence against Whites.

    • Posted By: THE RAVEN @ 03/27/2008 12:19:11

      Comment: I looked for a topic of interest that, even if it had race as a subject, would not include dirty name-calling, accusations and finger-pointing, petty racial hatred, bigotry... BOY! I'M GLAD I DIDN'T FIND ONE!
      You honkies are unbelievable! You can make ANY subject a topic of your black racial hatred.
      Typical inbreeding, trailer park rearing, huh? I mean--if your sister is constantly being molested by your father--while your mama turns her head--and then YOU start phuking your OWN sister, it must mess with your minds.
      You turn on your own kind in an instant, too--if he says ANYTHING that points to your racial mentality. You crackers hate to hear your own species call you out, don't you?
      Not only is race an issue/problem in the medical field, it's a problem in EVERY aspect of white American society--whenever blacks must deal with one of you people. You red-necks are breed to be racists. You people are brainwashed to believe you are superior to everybody who is NOT white. No matter how stupid and ighnorant most of you are.
      This man is stating what has been obvious for centuries, and has been said millions of times before. You crackers are in such denial as to your racist behavior, you people really believe you're innocent.
      No wonder you inbreeders spawn serial killers like John Wayne Gacy, Richard Speck, Jeff Dahmer, The green river serial killer, Ted Bundy, and your hero, Charles Manson.
      Don't blame black people for your ignorance and blindness!

    • Posted By: realpages @ 03/27/2008 09:24:57

      Comment: Man, you make it hard to be on your side of anything when you call yourself Ruthless and Tootless.

  • Posted By: Ruthless Toothless @ 03/27/2008 12:28:01 AM

    Comment: A new government report found the difference in life expectancy between poor black men and affluent white women to be more than 14 years (66.9 vs. 81.1 years)!

    [Obviously, this guy sucks as a doctor, with this idiotic comparison of apples to oranges. He's comparing the life expectancy of men and women of different races, and then screaming "RACISM". First off, there are obvious genetic differences between Whites and blacks, and so a difference in life expectancy should be expected in the same way there are life expectancy differences between orangutans and chimpanzees. No basis for comparison. The two populations are inherently different. Then of course he compares men and women longevity. It's well known that women live longer than men. I think his sly, jewey attempt here is for people to focus on the number "14" and then say, "Racism is the cause". Try again, jew. And I'd rather be treated by Jack Kevorkian than this guy]

  • Posted By: Karen J. Severud @ 03/26/2008 10:57:38 PM

    Comment: Hi - I come from mixed Polish and Norwegian ancestry. My immediate family did not live in this country
    during the period when slavery was lega. I never heard the N word in my entired life from either of them.
    But, as a maybe not so "typical white woman" who chose to teacher in the inner city schools in Richmond, near Oakland, I'm not really impressed with the hardships that Obama and his wife claim to have endeured.
    You see in my day, which was not so long ago, women were not allowed to go to medical school, or become lawyers as there were what me might call "quotas". I ended up being a teacher so I can't identify withy the
    high powered saleries Obama and his wife have. I'm really disappointed he has not taken a better position on NCLB a nd how it hurts the low income schools with sanctions. Promoting performance pay for teachers is not really a winner either. Teachers are devoted to their students not money for test scores. Through all the controversy about which church we should belong to or who is the most bigoted, I'd like to see some
    adult discussion about sexism in this country and the world. From where I stand, I see lots of bigotry
    of African Americans toward Latinos. I also see much disrespect for female teachers in the Latino
    community from male students and adult males. It would also be interesting to inform readers that
    as a teacher I have participated for years in a long term cancer study. It seems teachers are high
    risk for breast cancer, etc. We don't get to have articles in Newsweek or make speeches. K.

    • Posted By: THE RAVEN @ 03/27/2008 12:33:29

      Comment: So it's black people's fault you didn't get an article about teachers with breast cancer? My mother, a black woman with breast cancer, and other black women are far more likely to get breast cancer and substandard medical service then you--a white woman. Stop &itching.

  • Posted By: bob j @ 03/26/2008 10:17:59 PM

    Comment: when one from another race p's or spits in your food at a resturant because they dont like you ,that can make you sick!

  • Posted By: C. MacLean @ 03/26/2008 8:33:28 PM

    Comment: There are real disparities in health care in this country that cut along racial lines, but it is too simplistic to say that being on the receiving end of racism is what affects a person's health.

    By that logic, women should have less longevity than men, since they are subject to gender bias and sexism, but we know that women as a gender live longer than men.

    The racial disparities in our country have more to do with lack of access to health care, education levels, ability to obtain health insurance, and general mistrust of the health care system. (And after Tuskegee, that mistrust seems somewhat appropriate). It also has to do with the fact that the vast majority of doctors, nurses, and other health care personnel are white.

    Dr. Ornish may wish to direct his comments to the medical and nursing schools in this country as a way to begin to address these problems, rather than focus his attention on studies that stir the pot without contributing anything really useful.

    • Posted By: THE RAVEN @ 03/27/2008 12:48:18

      Comment: It's easy to say race isn't an issue when you're white. You ARE white, aren't you?

  • Posted By: somethingclever @ 03/26/2008 6:34:44 PM

    Comment: ig - no - rance: the state or fact of being ignorant: the lack of knowledge, learning, information, etc.
    This term is so often ignorantly used. Probably because the people using it are ignorant.
    However, a knowledgable person may form an opinon based on facts, statistics, or personal experience.
    To call them ignorant is, well, ignorant.

  • Posted By: neppy @ 03/26/2008 6:34:40 PM

    Comment: "Statistics tell the story"
    Hehe,"there are 3 kinds of lies; lies, damn lies and statistics. - .Mark Twain

    Doctor Omish didn't mention whether the black americans who percieved rascism in greater degrees also had distrust for the medical sysytem as well. Did they wait longer to seek out medical attention and if so was it due to projected perceptions of racism? Should we not take into account the scale of perception? I was bullied severly in grade school but hardly since, how would that be graded?

    This article on whole is thought provoking but very simplified and unscientific. Your articles criticizes treatment stayed because of black patients being poorer risks, well were they poor risk patients or not, you never really got around to mentioning those statistics. Failure to compare diet and exercise to percieved racism or proclivity to not have routine screening tests are all as culpable as percieved racism.
    Added to that the issue of gender. Well we have to distinguish sexism from racism is it either or, or a little of each? I hate to say it but we can do all the studies and take all the statistics in the world-- it will not stop some segments of society needing to feel superior to others, it is always something.
    The problem is that haters are free to reproduce at will in this land of liberty.
    My portuguese-american great grandmother lived to 77 but she was in a nursing home and fairly incoherent for many years. Doesn't quality of life count? just more statistice to compile.

  • Posted By: tmattocks @ 03/26/2008 6:25:12 PM

    Comment: Interesting, these responses. I think a lot of the writers are "projecting." They are afraid of Obama because they think an Omaba Administration would to onto whites as whites have done onto blacks. They assume "the worst" coz they've done "the worst." Ye protest too much!

    It is very clear, however, that Obama is more of the Mandela mold. He wants us to be FREE of the racial. This is not denial, but more like the reconciliation councils of South Africa. I know, this in itself, causes fear among whites -- but it is not the wholesale slaughter that right wingnuts envision. Perhaps, it's even harder: account for the past - make way for the future.

    Let's face it. "Many" prefer the status quo. But that time is over. Jump on a new bus!!
    It WILL NOT be as bad as you imagine. Healing - will propel us forward.

  • Posted By: sdeces77 @ 03/26/2008 5:59:21 PM

    Comment: Ignorance is a severe illness, many of you may not have the opportunity to recover, simply because not given the chance to confront your fears about race, discrimnation, violence ...Peace to you all, that is my wish to you!!!

  • Posted By: john boy @ 03/26/2008 5:32:25 PM

    Comment: I believe racism can make you sick......I throw up every time I look at Obama.

  • Posted By: somethingclever @ 03/26/2008 4:08:13 PM

    Comment: Thanks for proving my point AttyMc. Face smashing, as a response, would be a great way to fit the stereotype. Elementary school lessons teach about run on sentences.

  • Posted By: Spokane @ 03/26/2008 4:06:34 PM

    Comment: African-American.......hmmm, why don't we just call black people African or maybe everyone would prefer to just be referenced as an American. America's divide just becomes more and more amplified with all these hypens. As Ronald Regan said "a hypened America is a divided America". In this era of political correctness the wedge is driven even deeper. The writer of this article is a naive putz!

    • Posted By: realpages @ 03/26/2008 16:31:16

      Comment: That's a 'naive-putz-American' to you.

      • Posted By: Newsbuff @ 03/28/2008 08:39:54

        Comment: The reason you don't just call black African is manifold: 1) They didn't all originate from Africa 2) many of them, if not most, have a background that involves more than one race; most notably Caucasian (who didn't have a problem raping the slave women they brought over from Africa and the Carribean. The reason for hypens in the name is to acknowledge the heritage of the individual ( whether it be African, Japanese, Jewish, Chinese, Cuban, Hispanic) or wherever. There is no one face of America. There are many. That is why people make such effort to come here to work and live. This place, that boasts about its Statue of Liberty and its "open door", is supposed to allow people of all races, creeds, and national backgrounds to live and work on an even footing. That doesn't mean they should have to forget their culture and the aspects of it that make their American experience unique.

  • Posted By: AttyMc @ 03/26/2008 3:56:40 PM

    Comment: The majority of the comments as reflected in responses to the article is compelling evidence of the ills that afflict this country. I state here and now that as a Black man, I do not believe that a very large number of white people will ever change. In my mind, there is no hope whatsoever for person(s) that are ignorant, and I mean truly ignorant and they truly do not know that they are really ignorant. I would bet that if we had a method to know the actual educational level of most of these people that posted here, we would find that some of them have not been educated beyond parrotting back what they have heard. They will never seek knowledge or understanding that will lead them to truly question their ignorance and why they hate with such vennom. As a Black man whom has lived in this country for 65 years, I too at times find myself wanting to smash the face of these type of people because even though they know that they are afflicted with a terrible disease that cause them to be mean, and vile, they refuse to do somthing that is simple and that is, seek to look at themselves in an objective way looking within themselves for information. I question whether such persons have that ability to look at themselves so as to gain an understanding of themselves as far as they are concerned to look at where such ignorant and hatred come from. On this day after reading some of your responses, I truly feel sorry for you. I suggest that you seek to educate yourself and find answers that will aid you in lifting the veil of ignorance that covers you and your mind.

    • Posted By: realpages @ 03/26/2008 16:29:04

      Comment: Sounds like you hate more than any poster I've read here. You are the only one who wants to smash faces; the rest of us are just talking about race like Obama asked.

  • Posted By: somethingclever @ 03/26/2008 3:45:46 PM

    Comment: Stereotypes are usually earned by the actions of the majority of people who fit a stereotype. If certain races would cease the actions that have given them negative stereotypes, racism would began to cease. Sure there would still be the few that base hatred on skin color, religon, etc. Without actions worthy of a negative stereotype, these people would have nothing to base their racism on and would be discredited as ignorant.
    It is the historically and statistically proven actions of people that give racism creedence.
    This article is terrible. For example, it could be entirely possible that poor black men die before affluent white women because a larger number of them smoke, drink heavily, do drugs, eat foods that are bad for them, etc. Where are the statistic to dispute this? Or do they do these things because of discrimination.
    Excuse me while I go vomit.

  • Posted By: somethingclever @ 03/26/2008 3:43:19 PM

    Comment: Stereotypes are usually earned by the actions of the majority of people who fit a stereotype. If certain races would cease the actions that have given them negative stereotypes, racism would began to cease. Sure there would still be the few that base hatred on skin color, religon, etc. Without actions worthy of a negative stereotype, these people would have nothing to base their racism on and would be discredited as ignorant.
    It is the historically and statistically proven actions of people that give racism creedence.
    This article is terrible. For example, it could be entirely possible that poor black men die before affluent white women because a larger number of them smoke, drink heavily, do drugs, eat foods that are bad for them, etc. Where are the statistic to dispute this? Or do they do these things because of discrimination.
    Excuse me while I go vomit.

  • Posted By: Bottomfish @ 03/26/2008 3:20:44 PM

    Comment: "Some critics say that racism cannot be objectively measured and so does not lend itself to rigorous research. However, the latest studies show that it is the perception of chronic stress that determines whether or not it is harmful. For example, two people in the same job may react very differently to a boss's demands???one may perceive them as an exciting challenge and not experience them as stressful, whereas the other person may experience them as chronically stressful and have a higher likelihood of illness."

    Stress is measurable in a number of ways. But how do we measure the perception of stress? If someone says he is stressed by racism, do we simply have to take his/her word for it, since stress itself is apparently not the issue?

  • Posted By: Bottomfish @ 03/26/2008 3:16:10 PM

    Comment: "Some critics say that racism cannot be objectively measured and so does not lend itself to rigorous research. However, the latest studies show that it is the perception of chronic stress that determines whether or not it is harmful. "

    So it doesn't matter if you are really stressed - all you need to do is say you are. The writer should have spent some time n this difficulty.

  • Posted By: Tampa Diva @ 03/26/2008 12:55:17 PM

    Comment: ver y good article!

  • Posted By: ceazarhoneybee @ 03/26/2008 12:47:54 PM

    Comment: Your story loses most credibility when you compare age expectancies of black MEN and white WOMEN. Stop using whatever statistics you need to prove your point.

    "Statistics tell the story. A new government report found the difference in life expectancy between poor black men and affluent white women to be more than 14 years (66.9 vs. 81.1 years)!"

  • Posted By: cpogordon @ 03/26/2008 12:38:33 PM

    Comment: Give me a break! Evidently another Obama supporter trying to divert from Obama's poor judgment with this article based on the Obama "Need to discuss" diversion.

  • Posted By: john boy @ 03/26/2008 12:21:59 PM

    Comment: One time in band camp..........I was playing my flute.
    This story is as stupid as all the people voting for Obama.
    Elect Obama and watch our taxes increase and the handouts to all of the people who have babies by different men so they can get their hair done and their nails done and drive their Cadillacs.

  • Posted By: Sakmhaiel @ 03/26/2008 11:49:51 AM

    Comment: I am a witness that racial hatred can make you ill. I moved to a small west Texas town to retire. I had my own money and decided to invest in a small lunchroom. Things went well until an incident where I found out that the owners of the building would go in at night, ate my food, and fed their dog out of the dishes I used to serve my customers. On this discovery, I confronted the owner, and he admitted ithat it had happened in such an off-handed manner that I went ballistic. Needless to say, I was forced out of business after that. I received a phone call that stated: "Look around you. Do you see any other n.....r businessess down town. I promise you you will e out of business before the end of this month." I was. I went to thte Economic Development to get money to open my business in another location. I was met with so much hatred that it pierced my soul. I went t an attorney and was told: You will not find an attorney within 150 miles from here that will sue another white man for a black." I went to the bank with which I was doing business and was told in confidence: :I wanted so badly to tell you not to put your business there." When asked why he didn't, his answer was: "If I had told you that and you repeated it, I would have been branded as a "N" lover." You can leave this place, I can't.

    Needless to say, I suffered a breakdown, went into a deep depression, became suicidal. Thank God for a very good psychologist. Oh, by the way, that was in 1996, and it still haunts me to this day. It helped when I put it in a book, but the scars are still there.

    • Posted By: realpages @ 03/26/2008 11:59:50

      Comment: Man, those low down west Texans don't even care for whites not from around there (unless they are country singers or strippers) much less white people. I am sure this experience is real and I regret that it happened to you, especially with your retirement funds. Things like this need to be talked about too.

  • Posted By: Sakmhaiel @ 03/26/2008 11:47:46 AM

    Comment: I am a witness that racial hatred can make you ill. I moved to a small west Texas town to retire. I had my own money and decided to invest in a small lunchroom. Things went well until an incident where I found out that the owners of the building would go in at night, ate my food, and fed their dog out of the dishes I used to serve my customers. On this discovery, I confronted the owner, and he admitted ithat it had happened in such an off-handed manner that I went ballistic. Needless to say, I was forced out of business after that. I received a phone call that stated: "Look around you. Do you see any other n.....r businessess down town. I promise you you will e out of business before the end of this month." I was. I went to thte Economic Development to get money to open my business in another location. I was met with so much hatred that it pierced my soul. I went t an attorney and was told: You will not find an attorney within 150 miles from here that will sue another white man for a black." I went to the bank with which I was doing business and was told in confidence: :I wanted so badly to tell you not to put your business there." When asked why he didn't, his answer was: "If I had told you that and you repeated it, I would have been branded as a "N" lover." You can leave this place, I can't.

    Needless to say, I suffered a breakdown, went into a deep depression, became suicidal. Thank God for a very good psychologist. Oh, by the way, that was in 1996, and it still haunts me to this day. It helped when I put it in a book, but the scars are still there.

    • Posted By: bob j @ 03/26/2008 22:27:49

      Comment: you should really get out of the south and the red neck areas,,come to oregon,,espescially up around portland ,,lived there for many years and blacks and whites lived in harmony. still may be some racism in southern oregon in some of lily white areas ,but not nearly as much as some places in the south.isnt worth the hastle living around these morons. theyll never change.

  • Posted By: fsilber @ 03/26/2008 11:35:43 AM

    Comment: So, basically, for the sake of people's health we have to convince them that their troubles are not caused by racism. Those who tell people their problems are the result of racism are slow murderers.

  • Posted By: Darkie Extremo @ 03/26/2008 11:30:43 AM

    Comment: Its funny when race is brought up everyone gets edgy....it just shows how far we have not come in the last 200 years. Race is still apparent but we obviously give it more credence that we should, and how so many people mistake facts with fictions regarding race. For example jcd28, you talk about affirmative action for blacks, but the group of people who have benefited most from this is white women....hmmmm and this is proven fact. Also you are correct that the typical black does look for a hand-off, but how can blacks outnumber any race when it comes to welfare when they are the minority. There are more Appalachian whites on welfare than blacks. The typical black is someone who does not regard the American dream as achievable by their own measures, and the typical white is someone who still believes that everything is equal, but prefers to work with people who "look like them" in their daily life. Not every white or black is typical....and those are the individuals who need to work harder to help other typical blacks and white become non-typical.

  • Posted By: jcd28 @ 03/26/2008 11:19:34 AM

    Comment: Obama ,makes racist remarks about typical whites, what about typical african americans, looking for handouts, affirmative race-action and welfare, give me a break. Nobama08!

    • Posted By: realpages @ 03/26/2008 11:49:35

      Comment: I don't agree that any typical American is 'looking for handouts, affirmative race-action and welfare'. I don't believe there are any facts that would bear out your contention that such behavior is typical of any group. I'm oppossed to Obama's nomination too, but let's frame our opposition with real facts. What your post does prove, and I am sure is a fact, is that you won't, and I won't, and a growing number of white Americans won't be voting for that sly talking Sylvester the Cat either. (Sylvester, you know the one that Granny be the stuffings out of. Well, Granny votes too!)

  • Posted By: Stormcrow @ 03/26/2008 10:41:14 AM

    Comment: Wow, for an author so hell bent on promoting equality and revealing our racist tendencies with regards to health, his writing is eerily hypocritical. I can point this out over and over again in his writing. He constantly refers to people of African descent as "African American" where those of us who are of European descent are merely referred to as "White" rather than giving us the more respectful distinction of "Caucasian" or "European American". This embarrassing double standard was so easily overlooked by the author as well as Newsweek. There will come a time when this sympathizing and subversive discrimination against us poor "whites" comes to an end.

  • Posted By: pinkpanther87413 @ 03/26/2008 10:09:01 AM

    Comment: Well so much for the million dollar question. do we need asst with affimative action? the answer is not, due to Obama and Clinton its not needed any longer! keep on reading proof to follow and prior to this post of enough racism and sexism to justify affermative action! So way to many morons back east answering the question at 3am, where i live, and now the answer might accomidate the question! Blacks can affect the health of whites, and whites can affect the health of blacks, SO WHAT!! Turn a white man, a black man, a hindu man, a itilian man, a holy man, and a pagan, turn them inside out!! If you can show me who is who, i'll eat my shorts. You can't even tell me the difference between a gay man and a streight man, can you?? so why complain about the outside! ATTITUDE IS EVERY THING,EVERY THING! Discrimination just shows your lack of a second grade education or further! A white boy on the side of the black man-go figure? maybe I did learn in the military ,even a black life or a gay life is special! Because both have saved mine! "Death don't discriminate, nor will I" Today I wish I was the world! so we could just get out of this racial hole, we keep the ladder from!

  • Posted By: Tom Metzger @ 03/26/2008 9:48:56 AM

    Comment: I wonder if there will be a study made about how black racism that works itself out through violent crime affects the health of white people?

    • Posted By: realpages @ 03/26/2008 10:48:14

      Comment: Please see my post below. Seems like Dr. Dean does not believe trips by whites to the emergency room or the morgue count as being toxic.

  • Posted By: efnwestport @ 03/26/2008 9:40:03 AM

    Comment: Thank you for this article. I have never been a fan of racially or income based medical statistics, as presented by the media. They are never complete. You have provided the background that in fact does complete these statistics. Finally !!!! We will never be the nation we intended, and hoped to be until we are a nation of equals. This absolutely includes equal opportunity health care and quality of life.

  • Posted By: Roy Keane @ 03/26/2008 1:36:33 AM

    Comment: Real Pages, it cracks me up that you would have to look up statistics to prove your own prejudices. Social Darwinists such as yourself justify holocausts, enable genocide, and encourage societal degeneration.

    If your only contact with the black community is through freestatistics.com, I have two choice words for you:

    Get lost.

    • Posted By: noelcd @ 03/27/2008 10:18:19

      Comment: After the dust settles on this election we will come to the realization that when a man come to you with a HOPE&CHANGE message you need to clarify and confirm. Moreover people respond to a message based on their own experiences. When I listened to Obama I heard a populist voice like Hugo Chavez and the CONS outweighed the PROS. For folks like Hugo Chavez burst upon the scene with an agenda to divide and conquer. The most obvious ploy is to pitch rich versus poor. Note Pasor Wright rail against the rich white folks & in Obama message that gets toned down to be the Washinton Lobbyists (but it is the same thing). But not satified with that he subtly pitch blacks & browns versus the rest - a rather incendiary mix.

      With respect to the issue under discussion, rather that look at the end result why not focus on the root causes? One of the most obvious factor is the differing eating habits. The diet of African-Americans (rich/poor) diet leaves a lot to be desired. And there is something to be said when I attended my doctor (who happens to be black) and he marveled at my robust health - he swears I will live to 100 yrs. To quote him - every black person have lots of health issues by the time they are my age (mid-thirties). Yet my vital signs exhibited no trace of degeneration. Why is that? I do not eat fast food, canned foods, processed foods, soul food, soft drinks, ... Or maybe it is my gene pool - my great grandmother lived to 107 years and my grandmother to 98 years. Either way how can we say that this is a manifestation of racism.

    • Posted By: realpages @ 03/26/2008 10:46:09

      Comment: Socal Darwinists??? Roy, you heard a buzz word in an into to whatever class in school and you throw it out like you know something. Jeezee-Peezee boy, you are embarrassment to somebody. What I have written in no way reflects Social Darwinism.

      Societal degeneration??? I am not promoting societal degeneration. I am asking for an END to societal degeneration in the form of one race's apparent brutalization of another ... if you look at the facts about current day America. You are the one who proposes that the solution to such disagreements between ethnic groups should degenerate into genocide. I think that if you look at history you will find that it's usually the groups that believe they are in possession of absolute truth that propose holocausts. And, because the side you stand with so firmly believes in the absolute truth of their stance and are absolutely unwilling to look at or consider statistical facts, it leads me to believe you think your side is in possession of absolute truth. I find that very frightening as a member of a race that today is being brutalized by another race.

      So here's the deal then that one supposes from you post. Obama wants to talk about race and race problems, but what that really means to him and Wright and you is that what we can only talk about the problems that blacks are having related to race. Great, then let's be very clear and very honest and very vocal about that fact, since Obama wants to be clear and honest and vocal and practice the new politics. But in fact, it's a lie that he or Wright or you want to be clear and honest. Tell me Roy, where is the Hope for Change then?

      Ha! As Jack said, Roy, 'You can't handle the truth.'

    • Posted By: Cavallino_Rapante @ 03/26/2008 09:52:31

      Comment: If you can't trust the statistical data of US Law Enforcement, then what credibility does the 'Good Doctor's" data have? NONE. I suppose those White College Girls in North Carolina shot themselves to death?

      Clown....

  • Posted By: the-big-pill @ 03/26/2008 12:54:42 AM

    Comment: .Dr Dean is a DUMB___ and his MAMA is stupid. That's the only response his dogma is worthy of

  • Posted By: the-big-pill @ 03/26/2008 12:52:37 AM

    Comment: Dr Dean is a bumb____ and his MAMA is stupid.

  • Posted By: realpages @ 03/26/2008 12:10:02 AM

    Comment: Dr. Dean,

    First of all, let me start by saying that in his speech, Obama did not refer to his grandmother as his beloved grandmother. You made that 'beloved' part up. Obama only THREW GRANNY UNDER THE BUS.

    Second, if you want to talk about the toxic effects of racism and race relations in American why don't you point out the the most unhealthy toxic result, the vast wave of violent black-on-white crime that has swept the continent for the past 40 years.

    Let me cut and paste here:

    1) Granny said she was afraid of black men.
    2) Obama said her comments made him cringe.
    3) 2005 - 37,460 Black on white rapes/sexual assaults (about 100 per day) - near ZERO white-on-black.
    See Department of Justice link: www.ojp.usdo.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/cvus0502.pdf
    4) Granny is no fool as she walks down the street. Just ask Jessie Jackson.

    Don't just call me a racist for this post. (You might give me cancer.) Look up the facts about black-on-white crime. The numbers are dramatic. It doesn't matter why things are the way they are to an old woman, she is just wise to protect herself. She is not necessarily being a racist, narrow-minded, ignorant, or exhibiting racist behavior by being afraid of a particular group. She is being human.

    Check the facts. Just because they do not agree with your preconceived notions and prejudices does not change them. (See table 42 of the DOJ link.) According to the link in 2005, there were 550,000 violent crimes committed by blacks against whites and 53,000 violent crimes of whites against blacks. That means there were 10 times as many crimes by blacks against whites than whites against blacks. Since there are 4 times as many whites as blacks, that means that statistically a black person is 40 more times more likley to commit a violent crime against a white person than a white person to commit a violent crime against a black person.

    So, please, doctor, when are making the diagnosis, note all of the symptoms of the patient, especially the ugliest ones that are right in front of your face.



    • Posted By: Alvy @ 03/26/2008 20:15:34

      Comment: Hey realstupid;

      Same cut and paste again huh?

      The facts as you have written don't ring true or accurate.
      Your 'research numbers' are false - and you don't say which hillbillie site gave them to you.
      They also don't ring true for the majority race either Realcrap.
      You should know that because you were beaten up pretty bad on the other blogs after the paste.

      Any minority reading your drivel will dislike you. But as is your moniker of reastupid, you probably believe they're all wrong, and you're right.

      You never did reveal who you're voting for and why Mr. Stupid. Most would like to now so they can account for your candidate. You never really addressed why you only address race in politics too.

      Still stupid.

      • Posted By: realpages @ 03/26/2008 22:31:24

        Comment: I cited the DOJ link. You can ape all you want, but the facts are true. Go to the site and see if you can understand them. Then, perhaps after being bewildered with the 'maff' on the site, you can come back and post some horrid remarks about white victims. You know, like the horrid posts you made on other blogs about McCain and his Vietnam POW experience. Let me suggest Eve Carson of UNC. She would be a very good white victim for you to start with. Come on, show everyone how educated, clever, and evolved you are Alvy. Make fun of her murder and this real current day problem I have written about just like you did of John McCain being tortured. Make Wright proud with your post rants Alvy. Make can Obama smile approvingly with that rock star smile too Alvy, as you slime a dead white person. Go on now. He will approve. Heck, he'll even sit and listen to you going on about how Eve Carson for ... oh ... about 20 years and never get tired of hearing it.

  • Posted By: RA Chappy @ 03/26/2008 12:02:21 AM

    Comment: Fear and ignorance drives racism. Right now, there are many ignorant and fearful people?
    In addition, many of whom are stressed.

  • Posted By: LSD4u2 @ 03/25/2008 10:00:37 PM

    Comment: Ronald Reagan said it best, "Greed is good" .

 
 
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