What an uninspired article. You have completely missed the beautiful joy that surrogacy can be.
Thousands of largely invisible American women have given birth to other people's babies. Many are married to men in the military.
What an uninspired article. You have completely missed the beautiful joy that surrogacy can be.
sorry for the multiple posts but it kept telling me it couldn't add my comment so I kept clicking. oops!
And let me add, I am offended by your insinuation that I am not a "stable" candidate and that I need psychological counseling. However syrupy you make yourself sound, you are still insulting me. The fact is this child is my child biologically and spiritually, no contract will change that nor will anyone's biased opinions. I suspect your opinion comes from the idea that you need to choose a side in this surrogacy battle but let me tell you it is not so black and white. There are many IP's that choose to have continued contact with their surrogate and you had a poll, many surrogates woulsd not even agree to work with a couple that wanted no contact afterwords. People deceive eachother all the time and it is never ok. It is never ok to lie to an unexpecting person especially when it comes to something as lifechanging as creating a child. I wonder, would you be telling the birthmother of a child put up for adoption that it was not her child? What is the difference? A country where you do not have the right to change your mind would not be a free country. No other mother in this nation is without the inherent right to raise her child if she chooses to do so.
And let me add, I am offended by your insinuation that I am not a "stable" candidate and that I need psychological counseling. However syrupy you make yourself sound, you are still insulting me. The fact is this child is my child biologically and spiritually, no contract will change that nor will anyone's biased opinions. I suspect your opinion comes from the idea that you need to choose a side in this surrogacy battle but let me tell you it is not so black and white. There are many IP's that choose to have continued contact with their surrogate and you had a poll, many surrogates woulsd not even agree to work with a couple that wanted no contact afterwords. People deceive eachother all the time and it is never ok. It is never ok to lie to an unexpecting person especially when it comes to something as lifechanging as creating a child. I wonder, would you be telling the birthmother of a child put up for adoption that it was not her child? What is the difference? A country where you do not have the right to change your mind would not be a free country. No other mother in this nation is without the inherent right to raise her child if she chooses to do so.
And let me add, I am offended by your insinuation that I am not a "stable" candidate and that I need psychological counseling. However syrupy you make yourself sound, you are still insulting me. The fact is this child is my child biologically and spiritually, no contract will change that nor will anyone's biased opinions. I suspect your opinion comes from the idea that you need to choose a side in this surrogacy battle but let me tell you it is not so black and white. There are many IP's that choose to have continued contact with their surrogate and you had a poll, many surrogates woulsd not even agree to work with a couple that wanted no contact afterwords. People deceive eachother all the time and it is never ok. It is never ok to lie to an unexpecting person especially when it comes to something as lifechanging as creating a child. I wonder, would you be telling the birthmother of a child put up for adoption that it was not her child? What is the difference? A country where you do not have the right to change your mind would not be a free country. No other mother in this nation is without the inherent right to raise her child if she chooses to do so.
And let me add, I am offended by your insinuation that I am not a "stable" candidate and that I need psychological counseling. However syrupy you make yourself sound, you are still insulting me. The fact is this child is my child biologically and spiritually, no contract will change that nor will anyone's biased opinions. I suspect your opinion comes from the idea that you need to choose a side in this surrogacy battle but let me tell you it is not so black and white. There are many IP's that choose to have continued contact with their surrogate and you had a poll, many surrogates woulsd not even agree to work with a couple that wanted no contact afterwords. People deceive eachother all the time and it is never ok. It is never ok to lie to an unexpecting person especially when it comes to something as lifechanging as creating a child. I wonder, would you be telling the birthmother of a child put up for adoption that it was not her child? What is the difference? A country where you do not have the right to change your mind would not be a free country. No other mother in this nation is without the inherent right to raise her child if she chooses to do so.
And let me add, I am offended by your insinuation that I am not a "stable" candidate and that I need psychological counseling. However syrupy you make yourself sound, you are still insulting me. The fact is this child is my child biologically and spiritually, no contract will change that nor will anyone's biased opinions. I suspect your opinion comes from the idea that you need to choose a side in this surrogacy battle but let me tell you it is not so black and white. There are many IP's that choose to have continued contact with their surrogate and you had a poll, many surrogates woulsd not even agree to work with a couple that wanted no contact afterwords. People deceive eachother all the time and it is never ok. It is never ok to lie to an unexpecting person especially when it comes to something as lifechanging as creating a child. I wonder, would you be telling the birthmother of a child put up for adoption that it was not her child? What is the difference? A country where you do not have the right to change your mind would not be a free country. No other mother in this nation is without the inherent right to raise her child if she chooses to do so.
And let me add, I am offended by your insinuation that I am not a "stable" candidate and that I need psychological counseling. However syrupy you make yourself sound, you are still insulting me. The fact is this child is my child biologically and spiritually, no contract will change that nor will anyone's biased opinions. I suspect your opinion comes from the idea that you need to choose a side in this surrogacy battle but let me tell you it is not so black and white. There are many IP's that choose to have continued contact with their surrogate and you had a poll, many surrogates woulsd not even agree to work with a couple that wanted no contact afterwords. People deceive eachother all the time and it is never ok. It is never ok to lie to an unexpecting person especially when it comes to something as lifechanging as creating a child. I wonder, would you be telling the birthmother of a child put up for adoption that it was not her child? What is the difference? A country where you do not have the right to change your mind would not be a free country. No other mother in this nation is without the inherent right to raise her child if she chooses to do so.
And let me add, I am offended by your insinuation that I am not a "stable" candidate and that I need psychological counseling. However syrupy you make yourself sound, you are still insulting me. The fact is this child is my child biologically and spiritually, no contract will change that nor will anyone's biased opinions. I suspect your opinion comes from the idea that you need to choose a side in this surrogacy battle but let me tell you it is not so black and white. There are many IP's that choose to have continued contact with their surrogate and you had a poll, many surrogates woulsd not even agree to work with a couple that wanted no contact afterwords. People deceive eachother all the time and it is never ok. It is never ok to lie to an unexpecting person especially when it comes to something as lifechanging as creating a child. I wonder, would you be telling the birthmother of a child put up for adoption that it was not her child? What is the difference? A country where you do not have the right to change your mind would not be a free country. No other mother in this nation is without the inherent right to raise her child if she chooses to do so.
A bit late here, but to technokid below (nice nickname, seems to be a commentary on children who are born with the help of medicine--a little prejudiced there I see): Your post, technokid, where you said, "It's all about what infertiles want, right? Who cares about the feelings of the children used as pawns for their desires" was ludicrous. If you will accuse people with infertility who want children selfish, you need to consider calling all parents who desire children the same thing. Doesn't make a lick of sense, does it?
As for your referring to people who suffer from various afflictions that cause infertility, "infertiles" (did you really say that? Hard to believe it.) Do you refer to quadripalegics as "cripples" or do you refer to mentally retarded people "retards" ? How about calling people with various disorders that cause spasms, such as Parkinsons disease, "spaz?" I think you need to take a look at what you have said in this forum. It is pretty ugly stuff, but perhaps you don't realize it.
Noralynn- I read technokid's comment and I think you took it way out of proportion. T was just saying what about the kids who are a product of surrogacy, when many of them find out, they have become angry. And your comment anbout "infertiles"? I have never heard anyone say that was offensive EVER until you. I think you need a valium
Why are military spouses allowed to utilize the government medical system (Tricare) for a child that isn't going to be theirs? They are even offered more money because they are offsetting the medical cost to the soon to be parents. Taxpayers should be questioning this FRAUD!!!
Fraud is a profoundly unfair characterization of this compensation. Would you scream fraud regarding someone such as my relative who donated bone marrow whose insurance paid for the donation? Didn't think so. At the base of such accusations, I believe, is a cruelly judgemental view of people who suffer from the afflictions that cause infertility.
An article about infertility if you are interested: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article756401.ece
I have been a surrogate and I was lied to by the couple. They told me I would have an ongoing relationship with my child and that is why I chose them. As soon as I had my biological child, they tried to erase me. Every story is not a happy one. There are thousands of us disgruntled women who were lied to and cannot talk about it because gag orders are placed on us. We don't sign over our rights to our children because see all the lies we've been told and then we fight for our rights. But, most people think we ought to have no rights at all, making us second class citizens. Every other contract in the nation you can get out of by paying a fee. Courts don't allow us to do that. They force us to give up our baby that we never sign away. The only thing signed is prior to conception and every other biological mother in the nation cannot consent to terminate her parental rights until after the child is born. Surrogacy is a world of secret, horrible lies that preys on young single mothers with no money to fight for their rights.
Oh my, oh my. I am so sorry you had such a horrid experience. I have only a small amount of exposure to the world of surrogacy, but I was under the impression that a single mother would not be a candidate if you went through an agency. I certainly would never choose to ask a single mother, as I think the situation would be fraught with potential for hurt. I think a single mom does not have the support at home (typically) that would make her a stable candidate. Did anyone ever advise you that maybe this was not such a good idea? Did you go through an agency?
What is also quite surprising to me is the idea that there would be an agreement to have frequent contact. Isn't that pretty unusual?
I also understand that some agencies (again my knowledge is limited, but this is what I've learned) will not allow a surrogacy to take place unless the surrogate seeks some sort of support group environment. Also, a psychological screening usually takes place, and one goal is to make certain the potential surrogate is not in a state of need: either financially or emotionally. This I do know is a critical part of what a good agency does. If a candidate is showing signs of having hopes of remaining attached to the child she carries for the couple after he or she is born, from what I understand, the candidate will not be accepted into the program. Correct me if I am wrong, but this seems to be common sense (although I understand the emotions are not so easy to manage, I???m sure).
The other red flag here is that you refer to the child as your child. You are obviously in a great deal of pain, so I am not wanting to be cruel here. I have lost pregnancies, so I know what losing a baby feels like. This is obviously not the same thing though, because the reason for the conception was to help a couple create the family they have struggled for. Regardless of what you are going through, I commend you for that act of generosity.
I hope you consider getting counseling to help you move forward. I do not dismiss the pain. It must be tremendous. And I am sorry that bad judgement and misunderstandings and perhaps a falling out seem to have led you to a place of great difficulty. I wish you healing. I wonder how long it has been since you gave birth. I know it took me many many months after I went into labor with my lost baby for my hormones to get back to normal. Aside from the grief, that was the most distressing part of the losses. My body longed to hold babies that were not there. I think you are suffering from that ???empty arms syndrome??? too.
Wishing you the best. Good luck.
"I was told by multiple people???congressional staff, doctors and even ordinary taxpayers???that they overheard conversations of women bragging about how easy it was to use Tricare coverage to finance surrogacy and delivery costs and make money on the side," says Navy Capt. Patricia Buss, who recently left the Defense Department and now holds a senior position with Health Net Federal Services."
I find it surprising and disappointing that a supposed respectable publication like Newsweek would publish such blatant hearsay without checking their facts. I'm genuinely offended on behalf of military wives and legitimate journalists. Before you decide to report anymore information on the subject perhaps you should do some fact checking first. I'd like to see the proof backing up that statement. Or at the very least, hear that information from someone who has actually heard the women say that, not from some secondhand source like a game of telephone.
You sure have got that right, kimberoo. The state of journalism is a sad one when hearsay is used as information. This reporter also included the word "bragging" -- so I guess if women who were pregnant with their own biological child were discussing their insurance policies, and some of them shared the fact that they had good insurance coverage, they would be "bragging?" Ahem. Nope, didn't think so. By choosing that word, Captain Patricia Buss is allowing her prejudice to leak through very clearly.
Yes, I made the decision to become a surrogate because I struggle financially as a single parent. I realize that and I also realize that I have a right to my biological child as well. I have a right to change my mind. momof3 whatever, you don't even know me, you don't even know my story and yet you berate me for speaking my piece. You are actually proving exactly what I said, it is hard for women like me to come forward because of people like you. You call my statement ridiculous? I fail to find the ridiculousness in my daily nightmare. Myself and the Ip's verbally agreed on continued and frequent contact. I was lied to. As are many other women. I am sure that surrogacy has been a great experience for you, although you come across so angry that it makes me wonder who you are trying to convince-me or yourself? But, it has not been a great experience for everyone. All sides need to be looked at not just the fantasy world of surrogacy. WHy are you so afraid of people like me speaking out? Don't I have a right to speak? Don't I have a right to share my experiences. I guess women like me will continue to be second class citizens as long as there are people like you and fraudulent IP's in this world
I didn't read all of your posts yet, I'm running out, but I'd like to read about what happened to you. You have obviously experienced a terrible disappointment. I am sorry for that. Just looking at this one post however, my instinct is that either you did not use an agency, or if you did, they may not have been a good one. I think anyone who goes into a situation such as a surrogacy might not understand fully the emotions that will be involved. I think that goes for both the IP's and the surrogates. I think that is where a good agency can help with expectations. May I ask if you have considered the possibility that you were not lied to, but instead that the IP's are not able to go any further emotionally, and did not plan to deceive you regarding a future relationship? I don't doubt that these relationships can sour, any relationship in life can be less than we hoped it could be. I hope that is all it is, and that it is not fraudulence. Though, a friend of mine who sought a n egg donor was approached by someone she later found out was scamming people who were advised to use an egg donor. The scary part was that she was registered with multiple agencies, until they were informed of course.
i dont agree or disagree with this practice. i realize that some women cant have children and want at least half of their child to share DNA with a parent, something that cant be acheived through adoption. i just dont understand how a mother can look into their childs face and not see themselves. i couldnt live with knowing that child wasnt mine.
Maybe if you had to walk in others shoes your eyes and heart would not be so shallow minded. My husband and I have 4 children, one which is not his form a previous relationship. My husband has raised our daughter and adopted her as well. He does not stare at her and think "Oh hell she doesn???t resemble me so I want nothing to do with her" no he loves her just the same.
My daughter, Stephanie, started a surrogacy agency (Simple Surrogacy) after being a surrogate mother. When Steph first told me she wanted to have a baby for a childless couple, I had my doubts about the entire procedure. However, having a baby for this couple was one of the most fulfilling experiences she has ever had. Unfortunately, the agency my daughter went through was a nightmare, which was the major reason she started her own agency. I have read many of the comments on this board, where people think surrogates are in it "for the money." I can attest to the fact that the money a surrogate receives is not "big bucks." Working at McDonalds would pay more, and not leave the physical or emotional scars attributed to the pregnancy, the birth or the giving up of the child. I don't know what profits other surrogacy agencies make, but I know my daughter makes barely enough to live on....she makes it as easy as possible for intended parents to afford their dream. Stephanie is on the phone with her intended parents and her surrogates from early morning until very late at night, 7 days a week. SHE CARES. So, for all of you people out there that think this is just a big business and that surrogates are in it "just for the money", let me set you straight. These surrogates and some of these agencies actually enjoy making a difference in this world by making dreams come true for those less fortunate in childbearing .
If it was such a great experience, why did Stephanie say in the article that she closed her eyes and handed over the baby without looking and then cried for a month? It's scary she owns a surrogacy agency since she didn't handle the experience well herself.
It's obvious that you have no idea what it is to give a part of yourself for the benefit of another. It was "hard" for her because the agency that represented her offered no support system. Stephanie offers support for her surrogates. I doubt you would find a surrogate represented by Steph that feels all alone out there.
What is obvious is you are trying to drum up business for your daughter. Must be tough since she can barely make a living, right? Where were you during all this? You didn't give your daughter the support she needed? Pretty sad.
I for one would like to comment on this discussion. I happened to come across this post and it made me very upset that there are closed minded individuals like yourself that obviously have nothing better to do than bash on others. Stephanie owns and operates a wonderful agency. In fact I am a GS with Stephanie???s agency and I have been treated with respect throughout our entire process. Stephanie is available to her surrogates and IP's at any time, any day, and any hour. I have learned a lot form Stephanie and I'm grateful that I was excepted by Simple Surrogacy and I have been matched with a wonderful couple. I'm also glad that Stephanie???s mom came on here to support her daughter.
I am going to be a surrogate for a wonderful couple within the next two months. We are working with a different agency that I think is amazing. They offer plenty of support. I don't think that my mother or anyone else not involved in surrogacy could give me the kind of support that all of us surrogates and the agency give each other. I'm sure she's an amazing mother, to be so concerned about her daughter, but she couldn't have given her that kind of support. I think its wonderful that she cares about what her daughter did and is doing.
It is very sad that you feel compelled to criticize this women, I would suggest that you look into yourself to find the root of your anger. I am currently a gestational carrier and resent the lack of reverence many have for this extremely complex issue. Furthermore, as a graduate student, financial compensation did play into my decision to be a carrier, but the relationship that I have already built with the mother has far exceeded my expectations. Surrogacy is not an issue that can be easily understood or represented by stereotypes, it is a uniquely deep and personal endeavor that deserves far greater respect from the public.
Wow, where does all this hate come from? Excuse me for being proud of my daughter and congratulating all you ladies that give so much of yourselves for the benefit of others.
I dont understand why you must attack this woman this way. I saw her response to you was insinuating that you were less than compassionate, and maybe she should have refrained, but your message telling her that it was "scary" that her daughter has an agency was very provoking. Even if you don't agree with what her daughter has chosen to do, I am sure you can disagree or express concern without making a personal attack or being insulting, can't you?
Wombs to rent 50 cents, no phone, some food, no pets, she wont smoke no cigarettes and then 2 hours of pushing brings, a new 7 pound human being.
It gets very tiring always seeing articles in your magazine regarding sensitive issues pertaining to women. The way the articles are presented are always negative and distorted. The way the articles are written is as if it is all fact and in reality it is very off base.
Newsweek writes these articles like women are doing something wrong or are a walking disease. It seems like the writers are a bunch of insensitive men who have nothing better to do than find some controversial issues pertaining to women and then to exaggerate it. The writers are very sexist and discriminating.
This is exactly why I did not renew my subscription to Newsweek and never will again.
Wombs to rent 50 cents, no phone, some food, no pets, she wont smoke no cigarettes and then 2 hours of pushing brings, a new 7 pound human being.
"I was told by multiple people???congressional staff, doctors and even ordinary taxpayers???that they overheard conversations of women bragging about how easy it was to use Tricare coverage to finance surrogacy and delivery costs and make money on the side," says Navy Capt. Patricia Buss, who recently left the Defense Department and now holds a senior position with Health Net Federal Services."
I find it surprising and disappointing that a supposed respectable publication like Newsweek would publish such blatant hearsay without checking their facts. I'm genuinely offended on behalf of military wives and legitimate journalists. Before you decide to report anymore information on the subject perhaps you should do some fact checking first. I'd like to see the proof backing up that statement. Or at the very least, hear that information from someone who has actually heard the women say that, not from some secondhand source like a game of telephone.
I lost my daughter at 38w5d of pregnancy in 2004 due to a blood clot in the umbilical cord. After multiple failed IUI's and IVF's, I researched an explored the idea of surrogocy. My doctors recommended I not try to carry my own child again due to the high risk factors it carried to both myself and baby. I do have a six-year-old son, and I cannot imagine my life without him. All I can say is that women who willingly sacrifice their bodies so that others can be parents should be commended. Fortunately, after several years of trying I was able to conceive with PGD/ICSI/IVF. After my journey, I WISH I had the ability to bring the joy of parenting to those who cannot achieve that goal on their own. I love all of my children, alive or not. I understand it is a business transaction and the surrogate SHOULD BE paid, but the satisfaction and joy of giving someone something they otherwise would not have should be the surrogate's primary motivation- and I believe that is how most surrogates feel. (But as I said, they deserve to & SHOULD BE paid- and well!) As far as the government insurance (Tricare) is concerned- HECK YES utilize those benefits. Our military makes little enough money already and if the wives of those men RISKING THIER LIVES to fight for our right to complain about this want to help out another couple, feel good about what they are doing, and make some extra money by doing so- I say GO FOR IT. I'll gladly continue to pay my taxes. These women do without the "normal" family life enough- most of them wake up every day wondering if they're going to become a widow. Just my two cents.
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