The Curious Lives of Surrogates

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  • Posted By: manny62 @ 03/31/2008 5:05:52 PM

    To CaBez@ 03/31/2008 2:55:47 PM - I would argue the fool is the one who advocates for a system where all the children in the world waiting for parents to adopt them are overlooked by baby-greedy wealthy parent-wanna-bes who would rather rent a womb than look to give their love to a child that is not biologically theirs but already born into this world and desperately in need of a home and loving parents. But hey, suit yourself and go rent your womb and buy yourself a new plasma tv.

    • Posted By: plaw13 @ 03/31/2008 6:14:22 PM

      First of all, do you know anybody that has dealt with infertility? My sister and brother-in-law have been trying for 7 years. It was heartbreaking to see them get their hearts broken over and over again. They looked at all their options and decided surragacy was the route they wanted to take. They are not greedy and definitely not wealthy. They are expecting twin boys in June and will be better parents than someone as closeminded and ignorant as you are. Why don't you step into the shoes of someone who has been in this situation and then see what you think? I don't think you would feel the same way. Adoption isn't for everyone. Just because a couple decides not to adopt, it doesn't make them greedy to want a baby of their own.

  • Posted By: casmonkey @ 03/31/2008 6:09:12 PM

    My mother was a surrogate for many years, and has given 2 very happy couples a complete family. I think it is an amazing thing that she did, and we still have contact with these families. One lives close and visits with their son every few months, and the other lives in Austrailia and they chat via phone and email every few weeks. We get pictures and stories and my siblings and I think of these children as our extended family. I hope that when I'm older and done with my family, I can give the same gift of life that my Mother did!

    • Posted By: JailynMor @ 03/31/2008 6:12:30 PM

      It is amazing. You should be very proud of her (you obviously are). And the additional blessing is that she has taught her own children how to give joy to others. I will never forget the williingness of some strangers to donate bone marrow to my father. Truly special people in this world make it worth living in! Good luck with your own wish to give life to others.

  • Posted By: Gyrefalcon @ 03/31/2008 6:09:43 PM

    Having seen my uncle, and now my brother and his wife go through multiple failed attempts at having a child, it makes me glad that there are those out there willing to take that chance and help give couples what they so clearly have been unable to do through more conventional means. Surrogacy, like adoption, is no 'easy solution'. Personally though, if I were asked, I'd be happy to help a couple in this way. :-)

  • Posted By: RedTape2 @ 03/31/2008 5:47:51 PM

    Seriously? I understand the desire to want a child, but it is defintely not think it is a "right". Americans have a distorted sense of entitlement. Having children is a privledge, not a to be taken lightly. I think it's really selfish to "create" these kids as a means to fulfill their parents selfish desire to contribute to the gene pool when there are so many children in the world already that need stable and loving homes. Being a parent does not constitute being flesh and blood. I would question the morality of any couple who considered surrogacy in place of adoption. It goes against nature, and is quite frankly... scary!

    • Posted By: JailynMor @ 03/31/2008 6:08:19 PM

      Oops, I am sorry, RedTape2, I just realized you have already adopted. (I just saw your comment "I think it's really selfish to "create" these kids as a means to fulfill their parents selfish desire to contribute to the gene pool when there are so many children in the world already that need stable and loving homes.") Sorry, I didn't realize that your already an adoptive parent. Wonderful! Disregard my other post!

  • Posted By: RedTape2 @ 03/31/2008 5:52:06 PM

    Also, to those who are turned off by adoption because the process is "hard", I have news for you... so is raising kids. It's really hard, especially if you plan on raising them right. If you are that willing to quit before you even try, then I think you should really re-think the reason you feel called to be a parent.

    • Posted By: JailynMor @ 03/31/2008 6:03:03 PM

      Since you imply with this post that you are a great parent, I think you should consider adopting a child yourself. There are many children out there who need people who know how to parent. It would be wonderful for your kids to see you reach out and help a needy child, what a wonderful lesson for them. How wonderful for a child needing a family to have siblings welcoming him or her into a home. Why don't you consider doing this? You will likely truly be blessed. This is one of the best adoption agencies that I know of: http://www.adoptionsbygladney.com/ I hope you consider giving them a call.

  • Posted By: pureheart @ 03/31/2008 6:01:21 PM

    you kno wat i think that its just plain wrong to pay another person to have a baby for you..do u kno wat that person goes through..and for wat....moments after birth you take that baby..and u kno wat if that bay finds out the ral story o boy ur in big trouble....n y not adopt..maybe its just not meant to be for u...to have ur own genetic kids but theres always another way

  • Posted By: libbie13 @ 03/31/2008 5:58:08 PM

    I am matched with a man who is finally at the point in his life that he can raise a child. I would never pass my moral judgement on anyone. Everyone has an opinion and that is what makes this such a diverse country. I am glad that I am able to help this man have a child of his own. Sometimes adoption is just not the answer. How long should you have to wait to adopt, 2 years, 5 years, 10 years? What is you are single or gay? It is not "easy" to adopt. Put yourself in that other person's shoes. I think of my life without my children and then I think of me being able to give someone else that joy and no matter what anyone says, It is definitely worth it!!!

  • Posted By: Hawaiigirl @ 03/31/2008 5:56:25 PM

    No, adoption has become very very risky. As a scammed adoptive parent, the problem is, both with agencies and without, both with background checks, and the like, there is no way to stop the scamming. You see, we have to pay living expenses to birth mothers wanting to give up their children. While many birthmothers are just wonderful, our last two were anything but monsters. Our birthmother, from our most recent failed and very expensive attempt, took our payments of $3,000 per month for seven months and also took two other families' living expense money. She promised the baby to all of us, all the while taking our money. The DA in most of these cases doesn't prosecute. While we realize we will never get our money back, unless she is prosecuted, it never shows up on a record for the background check and she can then do this over and over and over to many families like ours who have had to save for over a year to get the chance to adopt again. We are broke, brokenhearted and just tired of domestic adoption. Surrogacy is something we are trying to do now. We'll see how that goes. Adoption is a hit or miss kind of thing, you are either lucky and get the baby right away, or like us and have to keep plugging at it, and hopefully after spending tens of thousands of dollars you will have your little bundle of joy. The adoptions in this country are not regulated as far as paying for expenses, because they say its ethically wrong. I agree and disagree. I think we should have to compensate the birthmother, but my question is, is it ethically wrong to steal money from people and get away with it. Granted, she could "change" her mind, which would be just as heartbreaking, but so many more times then not, its not just changing her mind, its a scam. In our cases, she accepted money from multiple parents, she only has one baby, thats a scam. So yes, adoption is geting passe, because people are getting sick of the way the system is run. I support surrogacy, thank God there are woman out there who care enough about couples like us to help us. I think they are blessings, and this is our next attempt to become a family. We just have to save for another year first, AGAIN.

  • Posted By: Hawaiigirl @ 03/31/2008 5:54:45 PM

    No, adoption has become very very risky. As a scammed adoptive parent, the problem is, both with agencies and without, both with background checks, and the like, there is no way to stop the scamming. You see, we have to pay living expenses to birth mothers wanting to give up their children. While many birthmothers are just wonderful, our last two were anything but monsters. Our birthmother, from our most recent failed and very expensive attempt, took our payments of $3,000 per month for seven months and also took two other families' living expense money. She promised the baby to all of us, all the while taking our money. The DA in most of these cases doesn't prosecute. While we realize we will never get our money back, unless she is prosecuted, it never shows up on a record for the background check and she can then do this over and over and over to many families like ours who have had to save for over a year to get the chance to adopt again. We are broke, brokenhearted and just tired of domestic adoption. Surrogacy is something we are trying to do now. We'll see how that goes. Adoption is a hit or miss kind of thing, you are either lucky and get the baby right away, or like us and have to keep plugging at it, and hopefully after spending tens of thousands of dollars you will have your little bundle of joy. The adoptions in this country are not regulated as far as paying for expenses, because they say its ethically wrong. I agree and disagree. I think we should have to compensate the birthmother, but my question is, is it ethically wrong to steal money from people and get away with it. Granted, she could "change" her mind, which would be just as heartbreaking, but so many more times then not, its not just changing her mind, its a scam. In our cases, she accepted money from multiple parents, she only has one baby, thats a scam. So yes, adoption is geting passe, because people are getting sick of the way the system is run. I support surrogacy, thank God there are woman out there who care enough about couples like us to help us. I think they are blessings, and this is our next attempt to become a family. We just have to save for another year first, AGAIN.

  • Posted By: daisyful @ 03/31/2008 5:45:02 PM

    I would love to be a surrogate i think its special doing something like this for people who cant have kids of there own.I have a 2 month old and would in a heart beat provide a family with love and emotions of having a child.If anyone has any ideas on how i coulod become a surrogate please let me know.

  • Posted By: jswwkm @ 03/31/2008 5:40:05 PM

    iw ould love to have met some wondeful woman to bear me a child as i cannot have one of my own but at last i also cannot afford their fees either. so my hats off to all the women who give someone the gift of a babby and by doing this making that person or couple complete.

  • Posted By: kim4425 @ 03/31/2008 5:38:57 PM

    I am a 34 educated women who is married with 2 children. I research surrgacy a few years ago and did not go through with it. Not because I did not want to do it, time just got a way from me. I have always had a passion to help others. I have been on the bone marrow donors list for a few years and have been called twice. I loved being pregnant but do not wish to have anymore of my own children. After reading this I am going to look into becoming a surrgate as I feel sadden by all the men and women that cannot enjoy the things that I from my children.

  • Posted By: kim4425 @ 03/31/2008 5:32:40 PM

    I am an educated 34 year old women married and has 2 children. I love children and feel sadden by the men and women that cannot have children. I researched being a surragate a few years ago and never went through with it. I think it is wonderful idea. I have been on the bone marrow list for a few years as I want to help anyone in need. I would love to be pregnant for another family as I do not want any more childen. From this articule I think I am going to research this again.

    • Posted By: JailynMor @ 03/31/2008 5:36:50 PM

      Good luck, Kim. You sound like a wonderful person. I too am on the bone marrow donation list, as my father had needed one years ago. Thanks for doing such wonderful things in the world! If there were more people like yourself, our world would be a far better place! Good luck if you pursue surrogacy!

  • Posted By: Diedre @ 03/31/2008 5:30:34 PM

    I am one of those woman who have suffered many years because of my inability to conceive. I am married for 7 years and believe I live like most middle-class Americans. However, I do not have access to lump sums of money to do IVF, adopt from oversears, or pay a surrogate. BUT if I did, I would not hesitate to use a surrogate. I commend any woman who is willing to give the gift of life to deserving people. Surrogacy has to be one of the most unselfish acts as a human being-to give that gift to someone you don't know just for the pure joy of it is amazing!

    • Posted By: saenglert58 @ 03/31/2008 5:36:35 PM

      My son and daughter-in-law both 30 and having been married for over six years have tried everything. He is a pipefitter and she is a school based social worker. I think that surrogacy is an incredible gift that one person can do to help create more loving families out in the world. Women who choose to do this for another family are incredible selfless human beings and if they get paid to do it - so what. We pay everyday for things in the US we are not given choices about. At least with surrogacy there is a positive outcome. Adoption waiting lists are long and overseas adoptions are expensive and take a long time.

  • Posted By: jswwkm @ 03/31/2008 5:36:27 PM

    jswwkm@aol.com
    i would love to have met some wonderful woman like that to carry me a child as I cannot have one of my own
    but i cannot afford to hire a surrogate either. so my hats off to all the women willing to give a life to make someone else's life complete.

  • Posted By: WMLizard @ 03/30/2008 2:13:33 PM

    I just can't help wondering why people just can't adopt? Why do we need to be so egotistical to go through all of this effort to have a child that shares our genes, when there are children out there who would like to be loved by a family? For the amount of money and time that's spent on IVF treatments and payments through the surrogate process, many of these couples or individuals could adopt. There are some exceptions, since there are still bizarre rules against gays and single people adopting in many places, but what is the problem with hetero married couples adopting?

    • Posted By: saenglert58 @ 03/31/2008 5:32:36 PM

      Adoption takes a lot of time and money and the heartbreak of the wait is horrible. If you have the funds, yes adoption is a good thing in any sense, however, it can take 4-6 years to get some adoptions to go through and what then. I guess I feel like every option should be available. My son and his wife are 30 and have spent so much trying all the fertility stuff and nothing. At this point, surrogacy, adoption are both options they can explore. It should be a choice.

  • Posted By: JailynMor @ 03/31/2008 5:32:25 PM

    I know some wonderful adoption stories, and I also know some real heartbreaker stories (unbelievable actually, and far far too much to go into in much detail here). Those who say "just adopt" are mostly people who have not been anywhere near that process, and don't realize one thing about it except the happy end result for some people. (Age limits you in many countries as well. I have a friend whose daughter has been languishing in China for years now--it is extraordinarily painful for them. I know another couple who were tricked by the Ukranian orphanage they contracted with--they basically held these kids hostage and made sure the process would not happen, and counted on the fact that most of the couples who had come that far would not waste their energies in court. It was a real scheme. I know many other stories such as this, but this is not a story about adoption. We are not to tell others how they should build their families. I believe if you will dismiss an infertile couple with the "just adopt" comment when they are attempting to be treated for their affliction, or if they ask someone with a tremendous heart for helping others who wants to give them life where there was none (or where there was death) God bless them and be thankful you do not have to suffer those afflictions or make those painful choices. If you advocate adoption, do so yourself first.

  • Posted By: mother1 @ 03/31/2008 5:30:06 PM

    I'm sure that the ones that have commented on this, are not in the situation that requires you to make this kind of decision. I think it is a beautiful thing that someone would carry a child for a complete stranger. At the age of 24, while giving birth to my daughter, the doctor messed up, which caused me to have to have a hysterectomy. I would have loved to other children and now my only choice would be to adopt or have a surrogate mother carry my child. As for adopting, there is fee with that as well, depending on where you adopt the child from, but it's usually around $10,000. and if you try to adopt from the state, Good Luck! You get a complete run around, only for them to tell you that they don't have a child for you. As for the medical costs of a surrogate mother, usually the family of which the woman is carring the baby for is responsable for all the medical costs. I give a lot of credit to all the surrage mothers and what they are doing, if the tables were turned and I was still able to carry a child, I would be a surrogate mother in a heart beat!!!

  • Posted By: getzel @ 03/31/2008 5:29:38 PM

    Wombs to rent 50 cents, no phone, some food, no pets, she wont smoke no cigarettes and then 2 hours of pushing brings, a new 7 pound human being

  • Posted By: happy513 @ 03/31/2008 5:29:26 PM

    I am a 34 year old woman that was diagnosed with Ovarian Cancer five years ago. Unfortunately I had to have a hysterectomy and of course unable to have children. I believe anyone who does this is unbelievably selfless and this is the most wonderful gift you can give a couple that cannot have children. One of my closest friends has offered to be a surrogate for us. I don't understand how people can be negative about this experience. I would love for them to live in my shoes for a day. I wish adoption was not so difficult but it is what it is. This gift makes me cry everytime I think about it. I am getting choked up just writing this comment. I look forward to this time in our life. Thank you to all the wonderful women out there that make motherhood possible for women like me. You really do give us hope.

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