The Curious Lives of Surrogates

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  • Posted By: momof3gs1 @ 04/10/2008 10:46:32 AM

    The entire previous comment is RIDICULOUS!!! You obviously did not do your research, take time to find the "right" Intended Parents, etc. Surrogacy does not prey on single mothers with no money. When YOU MAKE the decision to become a surrogate mother, you have to understand that the baby you will be carrying, IS NOT YOURS! I have carried for a couple myself, not everything is going to be all peaches and cream everytime. The only things I truly prayed for was to carry a healthy baby, make sure I kept healthy for my own family, and make a couple into a family. Everything else like contact after birth, money, etc. seems VERY SMALL compared those things I prayed for. Surrogacy is not for everybody. If you go into this thinking you are going to have a life long relationship with your Intended Parents and the baby that you carry, you could be dissapointed. If you would consider yourself disgruntled for not having contact after birth, SURROGACY IS NOT FOR YOU. It is the Intended Parents right to say whether they want contact after birth. Some just want to move on with their lives. Also, if you phrase it like this..."There are thousands of us disgruntled women who were lied to and cannot talk about it because gag orders are placed on us. We don't sign over our rights to our children because see all the lies we've been told and then we fight for our rights. But, most people think we ought to have no rights at all, making us second class citizens", YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS PURSUING SUROGACY!!! THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE.

  • Posted By: InWyoming @ 04/07/2008 2:31:32 PM

    Payment for carrying another couple's child, or twins or triplets, needs to be far more than $20,000. It is sickening, that the wealthy folks to partake in this practice take such advantage of women who do not have the self worth, education, or wisdom to understand how little money this actually is to compensate for the potential physical and emotional damage, or even death. Large babies, or multiple, or precipitous deliveries cause a woman's genitals to be permanently disfigured by traumatic tears. Corrective surgery is often necessary to retain ones uterus, and to avoid urinary incontinence early in life.

    • Posted By: JailynMor @ 04/08/2008 5:40:08 PM

      Well, my husband and I could not buy a home because all of our money that would have been for a downpayment went to fertility treatments. If we would consider a surrogate, we would have to take out some hefty loans...and we would most certainly do so, if that was what was necessary for me to avoid yet another lost pregnancy.

    • Posted By: Kittyhans @ 04/07/2008 8:20:08 PM

      Wealthy? When you have remortgaged or sold your home and taken second jobs and charged up your credit cards (perhaps one of those infertility treatment credit cards that most banks are now offering) to get infertility treatments, then consider embarking on the surrogate journey, you are not a wealthy person. And, 20,000 is just the beginning for most cases. The legal fees can bring the financial burden to $50,000 to $60,000. On top of that, the medical expenses or insurance policy can be an additional $20,000 or so. Now, having said that.

      Do you know how many infertile people will go to any means possible to overcome their affliction, or how many women who have lost pregnancies or have had still born babies or who have had premature babies die, would stretch themselves beyond any reasonable financial limits in order to have a safe pregnancy (which for some, a surrogate can provide)? Why would you cast such a tremendous stone at these people, accusing them of being rich and spoiled? Most of them are broke and desperate for help. So, this kind of accusation is not accurate, and is quite callous and even cruel.

      As for your claims of genital disfigurement and uterine surgeries needed, I would appreciate it if you would give us some credible sources, such as Reproductive journals, that back up these stories that you are telling us here. I would like to know where you get this information, whether it is valid, and what kinds of statistics there are to back this up, as well as how and why you have come to research this information yourself.

      As for your calling surrogacy sickening, I'm sorry you see it that way. Every one is naturally entitled to their opinion. I am old enough to remember when IVF was first being used though. There were many many people who believed that IVF was sickening, and even frightening. They were called freaks of nature or unnatural. There was even widespread discussion in churches and other places of worship about whether children born via IVF had souls. Many people felt they could not possess souls. Of course, now, most people feel comfortable with IVF (with some exceptions) and nobody wonders whether or not the children have souls.

      I feel that surrogacy will be similarly accepted in time.

      Thanks.

  • Posted By: momof3gs1 @ 04/08/2008 9:56:50 AM

    I think that the snide comments and remarks on here, are simply coming from individuals who have no clue what they are talking about! Until you have walked a mile in an infertile couples shoes or been a surrogate yourself, shut your mouth. You need to educate yourself before you bash others.

    There are many couples who have sought out adoption before coming to surrogacy. There are so many Intended Parents looking to adopt in the United States, than there are children being placed for adoption. I have witnessed couples and individuals wait for many years and spend countless dollars trying to adopt a child. Surrogacy is an option for those who are still able to produce eggs and have a biological child and it also gives them the opportunity to be involved in the pregnancy of their unborn child. Becoming a surrogate mother for someone is the most selfless, loving, and generous act one can do for another. What would god not like about that?!!!

  • Posted By: kellgski @ 04/08/2008 12:38:30 AM

    What about the other side of your story? You failed to consider those women out there that act out of pure generosity, kindness and love to give others in need the gift of a lifetime. Not all surrogates are strange, crazy women out to make a buck as implied by your story. My best friend acted as a surrogate for my husband and me and gave birth to our amazing twin daughters. Not only that, but my sister tried twice for me as well. Neither received or wanted any financial compensation. It was never about money or some strange desire to be pregnant. Instead, both are truly amazing women that acted out of kindness and generosity. My best friend gave me a priceless gift wanting only in return the knowledge that she helped someone she loved. I have a bond with her like I have with no other that will endure forever. We are not simply friends, we are family and what better gift to give our respective children but the love and support of even more wonderful people to share their lives with. I can???t tell you the number of people, complete strangers, I have brought to tears by telling them my story that there are incredible people out there that help others for nothing in return. I never knew from my tragedy I could spread so much joy to so many people. It was and will always be one of the best experiences of my life. Next time please do more research rather than just trying to sell more magazines.

  • Posted By: hhelmcamp @ 04/04/2008 2:37:22 PM

    I was a surrogate in 1997 delivering healthy twin girls in Jan 1998 - they just turned 10! I thought the article was interesting and touched on all the stuff I went through - the crazy psychological exam, the relationship with the parents, the let down feelings afterward cause the 'adventure' was over - I had three boys 17, 15 and 10 at the time - I was 37 when I delivered - I felt no bond whatsoever with the babies - they were not mine genetically. I did think it ironic that I gave them twin girls when i couldn't get my own girl all those times i wanted one. The biggest thing is this: - I used my money for home repairs and remodeling - i did it 50/50 for the money and for the experience and let me tell you this: just like the article says: there is NOTHING that can equal the feeling in the delivery room when a loving couple that has struggled to have their own child for years and cannot, sees their babies and holds them for the first time. i have literally changed someone's lives for the GOOD - I tried a few more times for other couples but was unsuccessful. I wished I had started being a surrogate sooner than my 37 years so I could have been successful at it a few times. It is one of the highlights of my life.

    • Posted By: Kittyhans @ 04/07/2008 8:05:09 PM

      Lovely story. Thanks for sharing.

    • Posted By: BigMike @ 04/07/2008 11:49:42 AM

      I completely agree. It is very sad when the journey is over.

    • Posted By: JailynMor @ 04/04/2008 6:11:29 PM

      What a beautiful post, hhelmcamp, thanks for sharing your story. I got chills reading the part where you describe the delivery room atmosphere. Did you ever see this video? It shows images of a couple who lost pregnancies repeatedly and then shows them in the delivery room with their surrogate. It's pretty amazing!!

      Also Meredith Viera talks about her own five miscarriages:
      www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/15256404#15256404

    • Posted By: getzel @ 04/04/2008 6:03:15 PM

      Wombs to rent 50 cents, no phone, some food, no pets, she wont smoke no cigarettes and then 2 hours of pushing brings, a new 7 pound human being.

  • Posted By: sab1868 @ 04/07/2008 5:58:32 PM

    I have been reading numerous blogs regarding this article and was bothered by those that feel our tax dollars should not go towards the medical expenses of military wives who choose this route. At first I was excited to find another surrogate market to look into, I am unable to have children, but then thought that those critics had a point, and then I saw a teenage mom walking the mall at 9:30 PM with her toddler who was sucking on a Pepsi....at that point I decided that I disagree because if anyone thinks that our tax dollars are not somehow going to, or will go to that toddler and her mother than we are mistaken. The difference between the tax dollars being spent is that for the surrogate it will be medical expenses for 9 months for the unplanned child to a teen age or drug dependent mother it will be a life time of social services to both the child and the parent. I would rather spend my tax dollars on the short term medical expenses knowing that the child's recipients are responsible, stable and mature enough to be parents.

  • Posted By: sab1868 @ 04/07/2008 5:57:54 PM

    I have been reading numerous blogs regarding this article and was bothered by those that feel our tax dollars should not go towards the medical expenses of military wives who choose this route. At first I was excited to find another surrogate market to look into, I am unable to have children, but then thought that those critics had a point, and then I saw a teenage mom walking the mall at 9:30 PM with her toddler who was sucking on a Pepsi....at that point I decided that I disagree because if anyone thinks that our tax dollars are not somehow going to, or will go to that toddler and her mother than we are mistaken. The difference between the tax dollars being spent is that for the surrogate it will be medical expenses for 9 months for the unplanned child to a teen age or drug dependent mother it will be a life time of social services to both the child and the parent. I would rather spend my tax dollars on the short term medical expenses knowing that the child's recipients are responsible, stable and mature enough to be parents.

  • Posted By: InWyoming @ 04/07/2008 2:46:56 PM

    If one is truly willing to endure the long term physical affects of a pregnancy for another, purely as a desire to create happiness for a couple, who cannot bear children, that is great. A rich person avoiding stretch marks, sagging breasts, and disfiguring of their vagina, by renting out some poor woman's womb, is sick and wrong. This is someone who is not suited for waking up several times a night, looking like hell in the morning, smelling like baby vomit, or dealing with an adolescent's awkwardness and anger. It is quite simple, neither she nor her husband has what it takes, and allowing them to have a child via surrogacy is a crime.

  • Posted By: technokid @ 04/05/2008 9:09:25 AM

    When you do stories about adoption, you never speak to adoptees. It's great to see you're keeping up your standards by not talking to anyone who was the product of a surrogate birth.

    It's all about what infertiles want, right? Who cares about the feelings of the children used as pawns for their desires.

    • Posted By: Kittyhans @ 04/07/2008 12:59:39 PM

      If you see folks wanting to be parents as using kids as pawns for their desires, that should apply to all people wanting kids, no? I don't understand why you target people who have an affliction with this kind of accusation, which is quite illogical. If you have been adopted and have pain around that (which I know does happen for some adoptees) please consider counseling. I don't mean to be condescending, that is a sincere, not a sarcastic comment.

      Also, keep in mind, most families have their pains: from favoritism to a host of other unfair dynamics. You don't have to be an adopted person to feel hurt by your family situation. It's pretty darn universal in my opinion, and then we take those hurts and try to use them for good.

    • Posted By: crystalbh @ 04/05/2008 2:35:39 PM

      What? Pawns for their desires? Please explain.

  • Posted By: JOBTHESECOND @ 04/04/2008 11:07:02 PM

    Another comment. as far as Federal funds being used for this, there is already precedent. Birth mothers have been doing it for years on Medicaid, which in most states is partially federally funded. What kind of insurance do women who give up their babies have? I'd be willing to bet over 50% are on state aid,.

    • Posted By: wannabeasurrogate @ 04/07/2008 10:14:26 AM

      Agencies do not allow you to be a surrogate if you are on public assistance such as medicaid.

  • Posted By: getzel @ 04/06/2008 9:53:29 PM

    Wombs to rent 50 cents, no phone, some food, no pets, she wont smoke no cigarettes and then 2 hours of pushing brings, a new 7 pound human being.

  • Posted By: laurie.mcculloh @ 04/05/2008 4:23:15 PM

    Doesn't anyone have a problem with the way that surrogate parents are getting around paying the medical bills for the future children because they target military women with great benefits. I am a military wife and am forever grateful that my health care is a hard earned benefit that the people of the United States pay for my husbands sacrifice. To read that these women can get a $5,000 benefit because of this health plan made me infuriated. As a side note, the surrogate Hagar, used by Sarah and Abraham, had nothing but misery after being throw out due to Sarah's jealousy after she had a child of her own. The entire scheme was against God's plan for them from the beginning.

    • Posted By: JailynMor @ 04/06/2008 9:12:03 PM

      Hi Laurie. In response to your concern about jealousy, I think this video demonstrates the exact opposite of jealousy between a surrogate and the biological mother:

      www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/15256404#15256404


      In fact what you see instead (and what I've seen with the couple of surrogates, as well as a mom who used a surrogate) is mutual support in bringing about a safe passage for a baby who might have died otherwise.

  • Posted By: rfranklin12 @ 04/06/2008 7:40:41 PM

    I am doing an independant study class to complete my masters and decided to make the topic on surrogacy. Recently, however, mys husband and I decided to begin the process of gestational surrogacy. However, for my class I need to interview someone via e-mail with questions who has been a surrogate. If anyone knows of blogs, websites, information please e-mail me at rebecca_franklin@adelphia.net

  • Posted By: rfranklin12 @ 04/06/2008 7:38:15 PM

    I am doing an Independant study class to complete my Masters and chose Surrogacy as my topic. My husband and I as well have recently decided to utilize gestational surrogacy. I wanted to know if anyone knows of websites, blogs or surrogate mothers I can send interview questions to vis e-mail. Please let me know at my e-mail address rebecca_franklin@adelphia.net

  • Posted By: Vibrani @ 04/06/2008 5:04:17 PM

    "Womb for Rent" was a good article on surrogating. However, what I find missing in every article on surrogating is the rights of the baby born to surrogates. Ironically, children seem to be left out of the equation that is all about their being born. Children are the vital key, yet left out of the contract. As an adoptee, I had to face the fact that the government was entitled to know my heritage, but I wasn't. I feel we all have the inborn right to know where we come from, who are our parents, and the circumstances of our birth. That is something most people take for granted because they are biological children of the parents raising them. With laws in place that now forbid the surrogate's eggs to be used, that is a positive step because it means that the child will most likely know one or two biological parents. While some parents may stay in touch with the surrogate who gave birth to their child, there is nothing in place that says the child has the LEGAL RIGHT to know. It's about time the rights of the child are protected.

  • Posted By: getzel @ 04/06/2008 5:23:00 AM

    Wombs to rent 50 cents, no phone, some food, no pets, she wont smoke no cigarettes and then 2 hours of pushing brings, a new 7 pound human being.

  • Posted By: blchhead @ 04/04/2008 1:16:35 PM

    Your cover story, "Womb for Rent", left out an important component of the surrogacy process: the quality of the "donated" egg. You painted a fairly rosy picture in terms of how these births generally turn out. As the father of a beautiful baby girl born through egg donation in 2006 I can assure you that this is not always the case. We soon found that our little angel was afflicted with a genetically transferred and terminal disease known as Tay Sachs. Even after subjecting our Krystie to chemotherapy and a cord blood stem cell transplant to try to reverse this monster of a disease, her prognosis is not entirely good, and she will never know a normal life.

    Surrogacy and egg donation are quite unregulated as your article notes. Surrogate agencies are generally started by former surrogates themselves. They have no medical background. The "psychological testing" of surrogates and background checks on egg donors are superficial at best. There is no national database. In our case, we later found that our egg donor had donated several times using different agencies before we came upon her. She paid for her education this way. It is quite possible that there are frozen embryos from her donations that carry the same genetic mutation that will kill our little girl. Saddest of all, this same young woman could be out on the streets today donating more tainted eggs to unsuspecting intended parents, and another Tay Sachs baby could easily be born. Make no mistake, Tay Sachs kids suffer and die a horrible death.

    We spent several hundred thousands of dollars using the best agencies, doctors, and lawyers that money can buy. We followed all the rules suggested to us. What no one suggested, however, was that we have a complete genetic work up of our egg donor. A simple medical test would have determined that she was a Tay Sachs carrier. Just in the case of Tay Sachs disease, 1 in 50 Irish Americans is a carrier. In the general population, 1 in 250 Americans are carriers. In fact, Gov. Schwarzenegger has proclaimed April to by "Tay Sachs Awareness Month" in California.

    As a member of the Board of Directors of the Cure Tay Sachs Foundation, I urge anyone interested in becoming parents via egg donation and/or surrogacy to have the individuals involved highly screened far beyond what a busy fertility doctor might suggest. Invest those few extra dollars. There needs to be a shift in the paradigm of the surrogacy industry to "Buyer Beware".

    Rick Karl
    Minneapolis, MN
    www.curetay-sachs.org

    • Posted By: proudGS @ 04/05/2008 5:15:43 PM

      I'm very sorry to hear about your daughter. Unfortuantely things like that can and obviously do happen, and it's tragic. I think it's tragic no matter how the child was conceived. However, your statement "The "psychological testing" of surrogates and background checks on egg donors are superficial at best" is not accurate in many of the cases. I too went through a reputable agency, the best lawyers, etc here in MN, and there was nothing "superficial" in the least. The psych testing that both my husband and I went through (as well as the IP's..not 100% sure about the ED's, so I won't comment on them) was intense and more than thorough. The medical testing I went through...AND the ED was very thorough and comprehensive as well as the background checks. No stone was left unturned.
      Yes there are many surro agencies out there started by former surros w/out that medical or legal background, but a good many of them have Dr's, clinics and lawyers that they work with very closely. There is a reason why these former surros felt the need to start their own agencies, and it's almost always due to a shortcoming that they encountered during their own journey.

      My heart and prayers are with you and your daughter. It sounds like she did get a very loving dad!

    • Posted By: getzel @ 04/04/2008 6:02:44 PM

      Wombs to rent 50 cents, no phone, some food, no pets, she wont smoke no cigarettes and then 2 hours of pushing brings, a new 7 pound human being.

    • Posted By: getzel @ 04/04/2008 6:02:12 PM

      Wombs to rent 50 cents, no phone, some food, no pets, she wont smoke no cigarettes and then 2 hours of pushing brings, a new 7 pound human being.

  • Posted By: getzel @ 04/05/2008 8:44:44 AM

    Wombs to rent 50 cents, no phone, some food, no pets, she wont smoke no cigarettes and then 2 hours of pushing brings, a new 7 pound human being.

  • Posted By: getzel @ 04/04/2008 9:38:16 PM

    Wombs to rent 50 cents, no phone, some food, no pets, she wont smoke no cigarettes and then 2 hours of pushing brings, a new 7 pound human being.

  • Posted By: NoraLynn @ 04/04/2008 8:33:13 PM

    To jd2010, who said the following in a post way down below:
    ???This is totally wrong. I don't believe God intended for this type of thing to be done. No born again christian would do such a thing. I believe the Lord opens and shuts the womb. For different reasons.???

    First of all, you are practicing what my pastor would call ???legalism??? meaning you cling to and are blinded by a personal understanding of something of doctrine without opening your eyes to a real human being right in front of you who needs to be treated with Christian lovingkindness. Remember that word: legalism, while you watch this video which has been posted several times here. I dare you to watch this, and then continue to insist on what you have said above. Watch this woman lose baby after baby and tell her that God is ???opening her womb??? for ???different reasons.??? What a grotesque and callous perversion of scripture.

    Video: /www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/15256404#15256404

    So basically, your message dictates to a woman like this that she should continue to endure her babies??? deaths, and not seek help. Did you watch? Do you still dare to say such things to a person going through this awful awful nightmare? Your comment reminds me of that couple last week who refused to bring their daughter for diabetes treatment and wound up killing her???their own child???due to dogma. Legalism.

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