The Curious Lives of Surrogates

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  • Posted By: sweetpea323 @ 04/01/2008 3:16:37 PM

    I am being a first time gestational surrogate and this journey is just phenominal. I am about to have my transfer this week. I am so exctied to be doing this and I hope all works out and I can call my intended parents and tell them they are going to be parents. Can you even imagine the joy they will feel. I have a wonderful husband and 3 beautiful kids and I couldnt be more happier with my family. I want others to feel the joy I have with my kids. There are so many women out there that cant carry there own child and need loving, caring women like us all that can help them fufill there dreams. This goes for same sex couples, they have just as much right to have the joy of a child. Being a surrogate isnt about being paid. Its not about how much we make and having ouw womb for rent. Its about giving out hearts, our love, our time and devotion into helping another person in this worlrd. This world needs more love and children give just that. It awesome that all the news channels and magazines want to hear about the world of surrogacy. It nice to get the right words out. I wish everyone the best

    • Posted By: rightwing-leftwing-chickenwing @ 04/01/2008 4:10:09 PM

      Do us all a favor and do not make yourself out to be so self-rightous by saying that it is not about the money. If it were not about the money, than you would be doing it for free out of the kindness of your heart
      and not the kindness of their wallet. That being said, I think it is a TREMENDOUS thing that you are doing
      for someone giving them the ultimate gift of life. I hope that everything works out well for you and more importantly the child involved.

      • Posted By: proudGS @ 04/02/2008 4:52:16 PM

        You are soooo right...it's ALL about the money. If I do the math, considering I'm carrying for my IP's for 40wks WITHOUT a single day off, I'm "earning" less than $2.50 per hour. Then if you want to factor in the time on all the MANY different medications and hormone's I was on....NOT counting any of the medical procedures, invasive and painful procedures, the time away from my family, the blood transfusion I just had, the pain of childbirth,....oh yea, and the many weeks postpartum recovering as well as many other situations...not counting those things, I'm not even "earning" $2. You are just so spot on that it's all about the money. Get a flipping clue and become educated before opening your mouth.

      • Posted By: getzel @ 04/02/2008 11:48:48 PM

        Wombs to rent 50 cents, no phone, some food, no pets, she wont smoke no cigarettes and then 2 hours of pushing brings, a new 7 pound human being.

      • Posted By: nats1908 @ 04/01/2008 10:13:50 PM

        Are you kidding? Do it for free? It's not about the money not at all. The money did not even come close to covering the amount of time off of work that I had to take bcause I wa son bed rest for 2 months at the beginning of the pregnancy. The amount of doctors appointments that I had to go to, again missing work. The fact that my family missed out on things with their wife/mom because I was too big, or on bed rest. The baseball & hockey games I missed because of bed rest (I have two understanding kids and a great husband) The amount of money out of my pocket for daycare while I was on bed rest because my husband still had to go to work. The time off of work after the delivery, I only took 4 weeks, because my job did not feel they needed to pay me for time off when the baby wasn't mine ( I agree with them). No, it's not about the money at all. It's about making a dream come true for another couple, a dream that my husband and I had no problem realizing ourselves. Don't comment unless you've been there.....

      • Posted By: donnarenee29 @ 04/01/2008 8:48:34 PM

        As a surrogate myself the amount of money we receive is no where near the amount that we should get if we were in it for the money. I took shots in the stomach (Lupron) for 21 days and then started Delestrogen which was taken 3 times a week. Then Progestrone everyday in the butt, and then morning sickeness once you are pg. All the while you are still giving yourself the Delestrogen shots and Progestrone shots.

  • Posted By: sama @ 03/31/2008 11:37:03 PM

    I can see how this would be an attractive idea for many, but step back and look at the whole picture: a) This is much different from heart surgery or organ transplants because here a whole seperate, beautiful life is being created. b) The doctors take the creating of life into their own hands as they "can inject a single sperm directly into the egg" . c) I quote with their own words, " The great majority of clinics can now test embryos for genetic diseases before implantation. It's revolutionizing the way clinics treat patients.... these advances have helped "drop IVF miscarriage rates by 85 percent." Behind the words that means that if the embryo (when an egg is fertilized by a sperm it becomes an embryo, at that moment becoming a growing child, like the beautiful little one in the cover picture) is discovered to have a genetic disease they are then destroyed. Thus the doctors kill the babies they just helped create. Yes, we thus have a reduction in miscarriages because genetic diseases are caught before implantation, but the children die either way, this time, sadly, at our hands.

    I understand, at least as best I can in my state of life, the feelings of parents who are told they can't have children. But there are other options, such as adoption which may seem old fashioned, but gosh it is necessary! Those orphans need your love! At least step back and think about what happens in invitrofertilization.. pray about.

    • Posted By: Kittyhans @ 04/01/2008 12:54:00 AM

      If you would tell women they should suffer a miscarriage rather than have an embryo diagnosed, you are practicing what my pastor would call "legalism" and is quite callous actually. If you would tell a woman she should suffer a miscarriage for any reason, perhaps you should familiarize yourself with what this type of loss does to families. Here is a great post from below:

      Posted By: JailynMor @ 03/31/2008 8:03:23 PM

      Comment: Amazing video of delivery with surrogate and parents. "Broken Womb Mother Gets Gift of Life" from the Today Show.

      http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/15256404#15256404

      Meredith Viera talks at the end about her own 5 miscarriages.

      • Posted By: getzel @ 04/02/2008 11:54:30 PM

        Wombs to rent 50 cents, no phone, some food, no pets, she wont smoke no cigarettes and then 2 hours of pushing brings, a new 7 pound human being.

    • Posted By: Kittyhans @ 04/01/2008 12:57:17 AM

      sama: Those orphans need your love! When are you expecting your adopted child to arrive?

    • Posted By: Kittyhans @ 04/01/2008 12:49:16 AM

      60-80% of all conceptions do not turn into full term births, naturally. There was a study done, and with IVF you get up close to what your body is doing without your being aware of it. The very very early losses that would normally only wind up on a Kotex, undetected, are detected by tests that infertile women are getting in the process. They are often referred to as "chemical pregnancies" because they don't really go anywhere developmentally.

      Please view this video if you would ever

    • Posted By: SarahJ @ 04/01/2008 12:00:45 AM

      I'm not sure I understand. You seem to be saying that you would prefer a miscarriage to happen within a woman's body rather than have a defective embryo diagnosed before transfer. (That is what they are talking about, checking the embryo to see if it is likely to be a successful pregnancy before transferring that embryo into a woman's uterus.) If you understand that, and still think that somehow is more wrong than a woman losing a non-viable pregnancy, that doesn't make sense to me, and in fact, is quite cruel. I imagine you've never experienced pregnancy loss if you hold this view. Forgive me if I've misconstrued your message.

  • Posted By: laqueen1 @ 04/01/2008 12:39:52 AM

    I'm really interested in helping others and in being a surrogate mother but does 20 sound too young?

    • Posted By: nikkileigh519 @ 04/01/2008 10:12:51 AM

      I am also interested in becoming a surrogate and I am 19. I know it is difficult to find agencies that will accept surrogates this young, but I think if you are emotionally mature enough to do it, your age shouldn't stop you. Have you had any children of your own?

      • Posted By: getzel @ 04/02/2008 11:53:45 PM

        Wombs to rent 50 cents, no phone, some food, no pets, she wont smoke no cigarettes and then 2 hours of pushing brings, a new 7 pound human being.

      • Posted By: Maezleigh @ 04/02/2008 5:18:23 AM

        I have the desire to just be pregnant, but I know my husband and I are not financially able to have a baby of our own yet. We're currently overseas (he's Army) until late 2010 and I wouldn't want to have my own child while here anyways. I want to be home and surrounded by both our families, which will be quite a few years from now. I can agree about the age concern, I'm only eighteen. :-\

    • Posted By: Maezleigh @ 04/02/2008 5:12:51 AM

      I am interested as well, but I'm only eighteen, and seriously doubt an agency would take my offer seriously. I am currently overseas with my military husband. I have no intentions of having children of my own while here, (we're here until late 2010) because I don't like the thought of having children and not being around my own family with their support. I do agree there is concern about maturity, but they shouldn't base it entirely on age...
      I

    • Posted By: karin1975 @ 04/01/2008 12:47:44 AM

      It's wonderful you want to help but you need to be emotionally ready. If you dont have children it may be harder you have to had over a baby you carried. There is no turning back. You need to have a partner that is supportive that is the most important thing. Cause many will shut you down when you tell them. But you have time and many agencies want older woman, my agency I had to b married a certain age, extensive background checks on myself and husband and have had children. Good luck!

  • Posted By: kim4425 @ 04/01/2008 9:30:48 AM

    Would somone be willing to provide information and support groups on becoming a surrgant mother. I would like to research everything before I talk to my husband about becoming a surrgant. I also have many questions I would like answered. I have an idea of what type of parents I would like to provide a gift of a child to. How much input on choosing parents do you have?

    • Posted By: wannabeasurrogate @ 04/01/2008 9:57:50 AM

      Please post you email, and I will reply directly to you. That way I can answer a lot of your questions for you.

      • Posted By: kim4425 @ 04/01/2008 9:59:45 AM

        ksmith0515@hotmail.com
        thanks!

        • Posted By: getzel @ 04/02/2008 11:53:04 PM

          Wombs to rent 50 cents, no phone, some food, no pets, she wont smoke no cigarettes and then 2 hours of pushing brings, a new 7 pound human being.

  • Posted By: CFMorenoca @ 04/02/2008 9:18:14 AM

    Childless Couple, We beleave that a person willing to help out another is a God sent. We are childless and have tried for the pasted 13 years from one procedure to another. Even overseas adoption with no luck sence we are both considered passed the required age, my wife being 46 and I 57 years old. And now not only would we need a surrogate mother but also a doner., Still hoping and praying.. Montreal, Quebec

    • Posted By: mamomma1 @ 04/02/2008 10:45:54 AM

      I have thought about becoming a surrogate for along time. I have contacted several agencies that say they are looking for potential surrogates but they decline to consider me because I am a single(proud) mother. If you would like to talk with me about this-please feel free to email me-I make no promises but you seem to be very deserving people. My email is lil_momma_peaches@yahoo.com

      Even if you do not contact me I still wish you the best of luck in acheiving your dreams...
      peace and prosperity-Amber Dawn

      • Posted By: CFMorenoca @ 04/02/2008 1:20:27 PM

        Thank you for your consideration and honesty, yes we are childless and have tried for the pasted 13 years and with all the tests that my wife has gone through, it has put her in her change of life mode and there went our hopes. So now we are tring foe a doner and a surrogate, please reply if interrested..

        • Posted By: getzel @ 04/02/2008 11:47:39 PM

          Wombs to rent 50 cents, no phone, some food, no pets, she wont smoke no cigarettes and then 2 hours of pushing brings, a new 7 pound human being.

    • Posted By: mamomma1 @ 04/02/2008 10:39:45 AM

      I have been considering becoming a surrogate, I have contacted several places that advertised they were looking for surrogates, but they decline to even consider me because I am a (proud) single mother.....I am very serious about wanting to do this-and if you would like to talk to me about it-please feel free to email me @ lil_momma_peaches@yahoo.com
      peace and prosperity to you-and best of luck on acheiving your dreams.....Amber Dawn

  • Posted By: FrugalReader @ 04/02/2008 10:25:46 AM

    Quite frankly, it upsets me that these women are abusing the Tricare system and using our taxpayer dollars (and benefits meant for the legitimate medical concerns of military members and their families) for their own financial gain. This should be considered fraud. As a military wife myself (and the sister of a combat medic), I know that medical resources are stretched thin as it is. (There are, afterall, two wars going on...) If you don't believe me, visit a base hospital--you will find it short-staffed due to combat deployments. I was recently in an accident and arrived at the base emergency room with broken bones in my face--it was so crowded and short-staffed that it took over two hours just to be seen by a doctor. Should I--or the war veteran with heart problems, or the recent amputee who were also among those in the waiting room--really have to share limited medical resources with women who are looking to make a buck off the system? I'm sorry if that sounds harsh, but it angers me to see someone like my father-in-law, who fought in both Korea and Vietnam, have to wait weeks to get an appointment at a base hospital...perhaps because thousands of women are taking advantage of a medical system that is already inadequately staffed.

    • Posted By: getzel @ 04/02/2008 11:47:12 PM

      Wombs to rent 50 cents, no phone, some food, no pets, she wont smoke no cigarettes and then 2 hours of pushing brings, a new 7 pound human being.

    • Posted By: coteclan @ 04/02/2008 3:35:57 PM

      I'm a Navy wife and have been a surrogate 4 times for 3 different couples. My feelings on the use of Tricare are this:
      Why should a benefit that is rightfully OURS (also tax paying citizens) not be utilized for OUR pregnancy?
      Tricare allows us to use it currently - only excludes payment for the infertility costs which our couples pay.

      If I were to get pregnant any other way, even to adopt out a child to another couple, Tricare would pay.

      Military wives work at other occupations that cause potential harm or involve risk (much like a pregnancy) and Tricare still pays for those hospitalizations.

      Just because we are compensated for our time and effort in caring for someone else's child (like any childcare worker or nanny - we do it prenatally) our rightful medical benefits should be taken away? Then this should apply to all pregnant military wives working as childcare providers too!

      People it comes down to this:
      Surrogates receive payment for our services in the same way the reproductive doctors, obstetricians, attorneys, psychologists, and agencies involved in the process are compensated for their services. Many surrogates however receive far less then minimum wage or refuse any compensation at all because they may chose to carry for a family member or friend.

      It isn't an unethical or demoralizing act to carry a child that is VERY much wanted by these couples who have struggled for years and lost the ability to carry a pregnancy...without surrogates their options to have a child are limited (especially for those who can't adopt due to age, marital status, or sexuality).

      Adoption is a beautiful option too, but the staggering statistics show that the turnover rate for the birth mothers to actually relinquish their biological children is MUCH lower then with a surrogate where one or both parents are related to the child. Plus, the financial obligations to birth mothers who adopt out their children still exists for couples - sometimes at a higher rate of compensation for the mother's "expenses" and agency/attorney, then that of what a surrogate and IVF clinic require. Don't for one second believe that adoption is a cheaper or better option for couples...many however do chose to go that route if an attempt at surrogacy fails.

      Finally, the beauty that exists in surrogacy arrangements and ability for the intended parents to share in the pregnancy (as though it were their own) is much more valuable then genetics, or the financial requirements.

      As a surrogate I can say with or without compensation, I'm blessed to have contributed to helping others and the emotional gains FAR out weight any compensation I might receive!

      You can read more about my journeys in the recent May issue of Pregnancy magazine or here:
      www.coteclan.com

  • Posted By: jd2010 @ 04/02/2008 2:51:11 PM

    This is totaly wrong. I don't believe God intended for this type of thing to be done. No born again christian would do such a thing. The lord opens and shuts the womb for different reasons.

    • Posted By: SarahJ @ 04/02/2008 8:19:58 PM

      jd2010's comment is well meaning, but quite misguided. If you believe that God gives people disease and affliction, you are misreading your Bible. I also assume from your message that you do not believe in (or use) birth control. Since, as you state, God opens and closes wombs and is in complete control of procreation, birth control would be interfering with His plan.

      • Posted By: getzel @ 04/02/2008 11:46:34 PM

        Sarahmoron: maybe G-d wanted them to take birth control. Bye ditzie

      • Posted By: getzel @ 04/02/2008 11:45:17 PM

        Wombs to rent 50 cents, no phone, some food, no pets, she wont smoke no cigarettes and then 2 hours of pushing brings, a new 7 pound human being.

    • Posted By: getzel @ 04/02/2008 11:44:48 PM

      Wombs to rent 50 cents, no phone, some food, no pets, she wont smoke no cigarettes and then 2 hours of pushing brings, a new 7 pound human being.

    • Posted By: JailynMor @ 04/02/2008 9:44:45 PM

      This kind of judgement is one of the reasons that the experience of stillbirth, miscarriage, and infertility are so particularly painful. Needing to hear people say that the death of your child, or the loss of a pregnancy, or the deformity you have in your reproductive organs, or the disorder or disease you have in your reproductive or endocrine system that has caused your affliction is somehow God's doing is a crushingly cruel blow to people who are suffering.

      As for your comment "no born again Christian would do such a thing" -- even though your personal views, I assume, as a born-again Christian somehow lead you to these conclusions, you are incorrect in proclaiming that born-again Christians do not use surrogates. Since I am involved in the infertility community, I have met several who have (or wiill) use a surrogate.

  • Posted By: fellowmilitarywife @ 04/02/2008 4:15:48 PM

    No, Coteclan, it comes down to this. I am a military wife and had to fork out a huge amount of money for a procedure that Tricare would not cover. You stated your couples pay the infertility costs. GEE, THEY ARE SUCH DARLINGS!!!! If they can afford to pay the infertility costs, THEN THEY CAN PAY FOR EVERYTHING!!!!!! A military wife just lost her battle with leukemia, and they were having fundraisers to offset the costs, THANK YOU, COTECLAN FOR SCREWING TRICARE. HEY, BETTER YET, WHY DON'T YOU FORWARD ALL YOUR BILLS TO THOSE DARLING COUPLES OR TURN OVER THAT COMPENSATON MONEY YOU GET TO TRICARE!!!! I have to hand it to these "desperate couples." They are screwing you and Tricare. I'm sure they are smirking all the way to the delivery room. Way to go, Coteclan!!!! Heather, THE MILITARY IS SO PROUD OF YOU!!!

    • Posted By: getzel @ 04/02/2008 11:44:19 PM

      Enter Your CommentWombs to rent 50 cents, no phone, some food, no pets, she wont smoke no cigarettes and then 2 hours of pushing brings, a new 7 pound human being.

    • Posted By: coteclan @ 04/02/2008 9:56:02 PM

      Oh, my dear...they absolutely ARE proud (I've never had a medical professional at any MTF tell me otherwise).

      Believe it or not, but if you look it up in the Tricare handbook, you'll see that it states surrogacy is a covered benifit! Get your facts straight...we aren't defrauding anyone by having OUR pregnancies paid for! And I'll have you know with my first surrogacy I requested that Tricare not pay for my surrogacy as my IPs had purchased a supplimental policy for me...however Tricare wouldn't deny the payments for the other policy to take over payments. And due to my pregnancy being a surrogacy Tricare even offered to pay additional ultrasounds that we had already paid (they reimbursed my couple for them).

      What we are doing by using our coverage isn't faud or immoral...it was put in front of congress to change the policy to deny surrogacy claims through Tricare, but it failed to change...our policy STILL reflects that surrogates have coverage.

      Tricare paying for Viagra for old men to have sex or paying for plastic surgery for active duty service women to have fake boobs installed...that is absurd! Paying for a legit medical condition (pregnancy) isn't fraud! Give me a break!

      Your heartless comments show your true colors...I'll pray for you to get over your envy and hatred for others.

    • Posted By: JailynMor @ 04/02/2008 9:51:43 PM

      Hello military wife. First of all, thank you and your dear husband for serving our country. After reading your post referring to the atmosphere inside the delivery room when a surrogate gives birth for a couple, I thought I'd share a video that actually shows a real surrogate and a couple in the delivery room. It is from the Today Show: www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/15256404#15256404

      Thanks again for doing what you do for our country.

  • Posted By: straw_24_ @ 04/02/2008 7:43:41 PM

    Amy Kaplan, brilliantly put. Tricare should follow suit with the large majority health insurance providers. Tricare MUST immediately stop and DEMAND couples purchase a plan for their surrogates. You stated, "If Tricare changes its policy to no longer cover surrogate pregnancy, many people may not be able to have a family through surrogacy due to the cost of insurance." GOOD! More money to be applied to our disabled veterans from all wars. What a joke. It is absolutely disgusting. Then again, I'm sure these surrogates are laughing all the way to the bank on Tricare's dime.

    • Posted By: SarahJ @ 04/02/2008 8:24:29 PM

      Gosh, these are very cynical comments. Comparing people's pain and making a list of what you believe to be deserving and undeserving people (and with such anger) makes me wonder what has happened in your life to make you come across here as so very judgemental and bitter. You may have very good reason, and I'm sorry for it if true.

      You may or may not be interested in this article on the affliction of infertility:
      http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article756401.ece

      • Posted By: getzel @ 04/02/2008 11:43:49 PM

        Wombs to rent 50 cents, no phone, some food, no pets, she wont smoke no cigarettes and then 2 hours of pushing brings, a new 7 pound human being.

      • Posted By: straw_24_ @ 04/02/2008 10:02:43 PM

        You are absolutely right, SarahJ. I pray every night for our military and their families. Let's just hope that none of these military surrogates won't have to endure what other military families are enduring, if their husbands are hurt. I am more than confident these Surrogate agencies and couples will be dropping money in their mailboxes.

        • Posted By: SarahJ @ 04/02/2008 10:48:32 PM

          I pray too. And I will be sure to pray tonight for you and your family to receive the medical care you seem to be struggling to receive. I hope that struggle will cease soon, and you or your family will heal. Thank you for what you do for our country.

          As for the sarcastic part of your comment, I understand your meaning, but I don???t understand the connection you are attempting to make. Are you certain it is accurate and fair?

          Again, I hope and pray for you, far better care than it seems you are getting presently.

  • Posted By: robgsilvia @ 04/02/2008 11:15:00 PM

    i mean, i dont agree or disagree with this. i just dont understand how a mother can look into the face of a child and not see some of themselves. you know? i would see the child every day and just have this lingering feeling in the back of my head that this child isn't mine.

  • Posted By: Pennypal @ 04/02/2008 2:42:46 PM

    This story is so interesting. I was surprised and kind of horrified by the description of the ???shallow New Yorkers who have their babies by surrogate to avoid the stretch marks.??? Do those women really exist?

    • Posted By: SarahJ @ 04/02/2008 8:28:01 PM

      This article was referring to that scenario as a sort of "urban myth" -- started by people who have great difficulty with empathy for people who experience pregnancy loss and infertility. This Today Show video vividly displays what it is really like (and Merideth Viera talks about her 5 miscarriages): http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/15256404#15256404

  • Posted By: getzel @ 04/02/2008 8:03:10 PM

    Wombs to rent 50 cents, no phone, some food, no pets, she wont smoke no cigarettes and then 2 hours of pushing brings, a new 7 pound human being.

  • Posted By: straw_24_ @ 04/02/2008 6:51:52 PM

    These military wives are profitting at the taxpayers expense, which also includes those in the military because we pay taxes, too. It is wrong to profit personally from publicly funded healthcare. If they wish to become surrogates, they should not be paid, if their medical expenses are covered by government -funded healthcare. It's a complete abuse and disgrace when we have veterans who can't get adequate care. The Department of Defense should put its foot down on this disgrace. All military personnel should contact their military provider and demand this convenient loophole for these "selfless" surrogates be closed. If these military wives want to do something nice for a childless couple do it without stealing money from our permanently disabled veterans.

  • Posted By: West Coast Surrogacy @ 04/02/2008 5:47:59 PM

    As a surrogate mother and the founder of a surrogacy agency, I am thrilled that surrogacy is being discussed at such a level. The article addresses many areas of surrogacy that the public at large does not know.

    Surrogate mothers do form emotional attachments during pregnancy. However, the attachment is generally with the intended parents rather than the baby or babies she is carrying for them.

    The article also explored the health insurance side of surrogacy. The large majority of health insurance providers do not cover surrogate pregnancies; Tricare is one of the few. Most couples purchase a plan specifically for their surrogates??? pregnancy costing them approximately $25,000. If Tricare changes its policy to no longer cover surrogate pregnancy, many people may not be able to have a family through surrogacy due to the cost of insurance.
    -- Amy Kaplan, founder West Coast Surrogacy

  • Posted By: getzel @ 04/02/2008 5:37:36 PM

    Wombs to rent 50 cents, no phone, some food, no pets, she wont smoke no cigarettes and then 2 hours of pushing brings, a new 7 pound human being

  • Posted By: realitychick @ 04/01/2008 10:18:32 AM

    Enter Your Comment
    I do not mind my health premiums going to a colleague who needs a bone marrow transplant for cancer -- in fact, I'm glad if my $5 increase per week can save someone's life. Surrogacy is not the same thing. Giving birth is expensive, and it is not a right. My health premiums ARE going to subsidize someone else's lifestyle choice. Military families have inexpensive health insurance compared to the rest of use (I am an army brat by the way, I know what I'm talking about.)

    As per the London Times article -- I am well familiar with this point of view -- that infertility is an illness. But I'd argue that it is society that deeply stigmatizes those of us for whom the baby thing didn't work out by completely excluding us from social discourse. And again, I repeat -- a serious illness is not the same thing as being perfectly healthy and in emotional pain from not having a child. One can live with the latter, not the former, and I know, because I experience both. And please note, I did not "condemn" surrogacy. I just don't want to subsidize it in any way. Perhaps building a charity to fund it would be the fairest option -- that's what we with serious illnesses must do to fund our research. Many perfectly healthy animals in nature do not reproduce. Some creatures just don't -- those of us who were not destined to be parents -- perhaps this can be understood as a normal state of life?

    • Posted By: sterlling @ 04/02/2008 5:22:29 PM

      thanks for lowering me to "animal" status. im glad you have never felt like killing yourself because you hurt so badly about not being able to have a baby. Gee i wonder what would happen if your illness was only cured by a funding from "charity" . I dont really mean to bash you here but come on... i diddnt just give up roll over and die (though i felt like it) and i have 2 HEART BREAKINGLY SWEET BABIES. perhaps you were just never cut out to be a parent if you could so easily get over it.

    • Posted By: Kittyhans @ 04/01/2008 2:09:06 PM

      In regard to your comment, "......those of us who were not destined to be parents..."

      Maybe you, realitychick, were not destined for good health, either.

      Now, of course I don't mean that. It would be cruel. Just making a point.

    • Posted By: JailynMor @ 04/01/2008 12:19:05 PM

      Just a response to your post saying, "...a serious illness is not the same thing as being perfectly healthy and in emotional pain from not having a child. One can live with the latter, not the former." : Depression is considered illness, as I am sure you know. As for your emotional pain and illness, I am sorry you experience these ailments. From my point of view, as I've said below, I would choose my illness (a chronic disorder that has attacked my liver, heart, thyroid, bones, and other systems, and was life-threatening for a time (I nearly died). I would choose that over and over and over and over again rather than having to suffer even one miscarriage or infertility. So, I obviously have a different perspective from yours.

      I hope your illness resolves. It sounds as if you have something for which research is being done. I hope that a cure is found for you.

      And, I hope women and men with the affliction of infertility get the treatment and/or help they deserve as well.

  • Posted By: easycode68 @ 03/31/2008 10:56:57 PM

    I was just curious as to whether the parents of the child that was born of the surrogate mother have to adopt the child or is a birth certificate made up showing both of the parents to be the legal parents of the child and the surrogate mother has no name on the birth certificate at all?

    • Posted By: proudGS @ 04/02/2008 5:03:23 PM

      I'm almost 32wks carrying for a gay married couple in MN and we just had our prebirth order(PBO) signed by the judge. The bio-father's name will be on the birth certificate and depending on if the judge has signed it yet or not, the other father's name may go on the birth certificate immediately as well, leaving my name off. If it hasn't been signed yet, then we go to court so that he can do a 2nd parent adoption, at which time his name will go on the birth certificate and mine would be removed. (it's still up in the air at this time if mine will "have" to be listed or not, as my eggs were not used, so there is no biological connection)

    • Posted By: JailynMor @ 03/31/2008 11:30:24 PM

      It depends upon the state within which the birth takes place. There is a range of possible processes apparently. Some states have what is called a "pre-birth order" and that typically names the parents on the birth certificate. There iis a lot of work going on to update laws (they had been written before surrogacy was medically possible, so they need to be updated).

    • Posted By: happysurrogate @ 03/31/2008 11:28:38 PM

      I believe it depends on the state. In Florida the original birth certificate has the surrogate's name on it, the hospital ahs to report it to the Dept of health that way. Then the IP's petition the court to have it changed. It seems to be a very straight forward procedure as long as the lawyer knows what they are doing.

  • Posted By: sterlling @ 04/02/2008 4:49:26 PM

    sorry enter button got stuck : ^ P

  • Posted By: sterlling @ 04/02/2008 4:45:13 PM

    i use to live in Huntsville, i now live in Athens. My husband and i tried for 7 years to have a baby. finally 1 step short of invetro we conceved (between meds no less!) My cousin cant have babies and shes 22. I have thought about if i could have used a surrogate or if i could have been one to her in turn. i think i could be one as long as the egg wasnt mine. i loved being pregnant (i was able to have 2 babies 13 months apart!) but dont think i could handle having a part of me "missing" if it was my egg.

  • Posted By: sterlling @ 04/02/2008 4:44:37 PM

    i use to live in Huntsville, i now live in Athens. My husband and i tried for 7 years to have a baby. finally 1 step short of invetro we conceved (between meds no less!) My cousin cant have babies and shes 22. I have thought about if i could have used a surrogate or if i could have been one to her in turn. i think i could be one as long as the egg wasnt mine. i loved being pregnant (i was able to have 2 babies 13 months apart!) but dont think i could handle having a part of me "missing" if it was my egg.

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