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  • Posted By: milton245 @ 04/19/2008 7:58:23 PM

    This ideal about 50 miles to the gal is bull as if one were to check the news from watertown daily times I think in the 80 it had a piece about a man who bought a caddi with a 500hp engine getting such and the company wated the carb back as they said it had a tag saying it was expermintal and he refused to return as it was on the car when sold..Car companies can get more gpm, they are just greedy..I bet if we were to dig we would see they hold a pretty good stock in oil cpmpanies..

  • Posted By: ltcarpio @ 04/04/2008 2:58:29 PM

    I was just hit in a major rear-end collision. Got hit by an older Buick Century. If I had been driving my little Honda (traded in 3 months ago) I would have been rushed to the hospital, AFTER they had cut my car open to extricate me. As it is, my Lincoln MKZ was fixed in only 1 week and I suffered NO injuries whatsoever. On the highways that most Americans travel, expecting these cute little cars to protect you from anything is except gas prices is naive and short-sighted. With a plethora of Hummers, Hummer wannabe's, trucks, etc. all thinking they own the roads, I'd rather have some thirsty steel around me.

    • Posted By: sosebee2 @ 04/04/2008 4:08:41 PM

      Your little Honda would have done fine. Read crash rating and quit sucking on your tail pipe. You aren;t getting enough oxyegen to your brain.

      • Posted By: good4u2know @ 04/19/2008 5:51:05 AM

        The litttle honda would of been creamed just go to car-accidents.com or just pay attention to accidents in your own city, I've seen a lot of compact cars nearly destroyed in normal 35-40 mph accidents in the city. I owned a compact car for a while but after working as a delivery driver for the past 6 years I've seen alot of horrific accidents most of them involving compact cars. I am perfectly happy in my midsized 2007 Kia Optima which gets 30-32 mpg in the city (swapped out the plugs with premuim denso iridiums) and has a 5 star safety rating all around including the highest rating for front and back in its class. Safety ratings: safercar.gov or iihs.org be sure to check out car-accidents.com it will make you think next time you go out driving.

  • Posted By: good4u2know @ 04/19/2008 4:55:02 AM

    I averaged 55mpg in my 95' Dodge Neon driving from Tucson to Omaha using premium gas. I miss that old car nowadays sigh.

  • Posted By: Midwest_Straight_Talk @ 04/19/2008 1:53:46 AM

    This is total lie that the auto makers are telling this writer, total BS! How soon we all forget about the numerous gas sippers from the 80s and early 90s models of gas engines, there were numerous cars that got in the 40-60 mpg range all the time, with good comfort, plenty of power and modest affordable pricing, little or no maintenance. Bottom line - automakers got fat, lazy and soft sucking up large outrageous profit margins since mid to late 90s selling the American public these titanic boats called SUVs, large trucks and sports cars, even mini vans with these larger gas guzzling engines and low geared high powered transmissions! Why do you think they fight Congress so hard about raising mileage standards and lie about how auto plants will close and they will lose jobs and no it goes! AND auto makers will not start making the switch or producing gas sipping autos until the American public stops buying those gas guzzling autos and refuses to buy the gas guzzlers, then once you hit the automakers profits, as has been the case in the past 2 years will they finally start considering and making affordable high mileage autos! And notice they all claim only their over priced hybrids can only now get 40-60 mpg, funny how those models are all priced at $25,000 to $30,000 a piece, I mean come on, once again it is all about maintaining those fat profit margins and sticking it to the American public at all of our expense, they could care less what we have to pay at the gas pump!

  • Posted By: jcolby05 @ 04/17/2008 4:13:47 PM

    Something doesnt' add up here. Just two years ago, I put my Ford Festive to rest (275,000 miles). It was a no-frill run-about with manual transmission and no air conditioning. On the highway, I would get almost 60 mpg!!! I could drive from Chicago to Marquette, MI on one tank of gas.

    This was a 1991 model year car. It had a 1.3 liter, EFI, 4-cylinder engine. Don't tell me we can't put cars on the road with 50 mpg.

  • Posted By: craigmair @ 04/14/2008 9:20:13 PM

    just go to www.fiat.com and then ask why are these vehicles not avaliable in the US. FIAT is an italian car company. My first car was a FIAT Uno, it had a one litre engine and got 70 MPG on the highway.

  • Posted By: GoHybrid @ 04/07/2008 6:31:58 PM

    My 2003 prius gets over 5ompg here in Denver with lots of hills and no oxygen. If Americans weren't in such a damned hurry to get to the next stoplight to get to an immediate stop, any car can by far exceed its EPA rating. Hell, I took the same car to Texas at 70 mph and cleared 54mpg...its all about efficiency and consistency. American's need to pull their heads out of their *** and become better drivers. Secondly, the American Auto Industry needs to pull their heads out and learn how to compte. Bigger is not better folks.

    • Posted By: getzel @ 04/11/2008 11:34:21 PM

      Nail on the head Mr Hiroadbreed. Racing to lights that are red and burning as much gas as they can hoping to push the price of gas just a little bit higher. My Prius gets 47-53; yes I putz in the right lane and take off slow to get it going: on electric.

      War ends We win: when we pass a law that makes the minimum price of gasoline at the pumps: $1.75/gallon.

      The ethanol investors do not build ethanol distilleries because monopoly OPEC would lower the price of crude/gasoline to rust out the billion dollar/million barrel a day ethanol stills.

      Brazil is energy independent: ethanol; All their cars come built running on ethanol; The gas station fills the tanks with ethanol, no gasoline.

      Archer Daniel Midland made millions in the USA selling $1.00 gallon ethanol in the 1990s;

      That trumps any canard/invalid objection to ethanol. Use Cellulose ethanol, not corn ethanol.

      Cellulose Ethanol energy independence in the USA, will balance the trade deficit, create full employment, bring down the price of fuel, break the monopoly on the pricing of fuel, balance the USA government budget, create less pollution, make the USA energy independent, and end the war because we will stop funding the bad guys everyday at the gas pumps.

      With all the cars running on ethanol; the price of oil will collapse and the radical Moslem hordes will no longer have the funds we used to give them from gasoline sales to finance the war against us.

      I built a distillery and converted my GM car to 160 proof ethanol by 1982; and tried 25 years to get the USA off of gasoline. Unless the strategy I am outlining is adopted, the war that is coming, regardless of who is elected, will make Vietnam look like a cake walk.

      Sharia people are at war with The West because Sharia people believe Islam can not survive against: a free market economy with free speech to criticize Islam.

      International law, has defined a set of war rule parameters that guarantee no war can be won by good guys and that guarantee nice long lasting wars with lots of weapons sales.

      Generals: Patton. Eisenhower, Marshall , Sherman et al would all be war criminals under international law and Europe would be under Hitler; the American civil war would not be over if fought under the current rules; which, intentionally or unintentionally, are designed for a hundred year terror war.

      Cut off terrorist infested countries/areas: no phones, no lights, no motorcars not a single luxury. No food, no water, no ships/airplanes in and out, no trucks cross their borders; nothing till they give up the terrorism. Better the terrorist should die right there than have a war where the world is terrorized for 100 years.

      The leadership that sponsors these terrorist suicide murders are the Heads of state in Tehran, Riyadh, and Damascus.

      Intelligence analyst: Getzel

  • Posted By: MinnesotaRose @ 04/10/2008 7:33:42 PM

    We had Honda Civics in the 70's and early 80's. They consistently got at least 40 mpg on the highway. Very hard to find that gas economy since! We sold our last Honda Civic in 1983. This must be proof of the domestic cartel!

  • Posted By: Cheap @ 04/10/2008 11:35:40 AM

    I've been driving my Plug-in Hybrid for a year now. In a month, for about 2,100 miles I use 15 gallons of gas, and 18.00 of electricity. At today???s cost of $3.25 per gallon, that is a total of $66.75. That works out to be about 3.2 cents per mile. In a standard Prius, that would be 6.5 cents per mile. In my Yukon that would be 27 cents per mile.
    Look at it this way, at gas costs of $3.25;
    Yukon, $568.75/month
    Prius, $136.5/month
    Plug-in Prius, $66.75/month

    There are some numbers you can take to the bank!

  • Posted By: sgoldbarg @ 04/04/2008 8:22:18 PM

    We also have the technology to set up hybrids to run e85, cutting the amount of petro consumption by 85%

    The real problem has been that oil companies control the White House and controlled the republican Congress. Oil companies want high priced oil, and their government gives them what they want.

    If we controlled the government, we could get what we want.

    • Posted By: Braes @ 04/09/2008 12:24:45 AM

      Agree, the markets are fixed and we have been raked over the gas pump.

  • Posted By: douglas.pilbrow @ 04/05/2008 1:45:58 AM

    Not so my friend. Every single passenger new vehicle sold in France must be fitted with a catalytic exhaust, but not trucks because of the trucking lobby, but that will hopefully soon change. My petrol Fiat Panda, European Car of the Year 2004, uses 5.5 liters per 100 kilometers with a CO2 emission of 114 grams per kilometer, with the European goal as stated by Brussels being 140 grams per kilometer. The virtual cabal in the United States composed of the manufactures, the oil companies and the government has suckered the consumer into believing the kind of nonsense expressed in this article. I think you need to do a bit more homework.

    • Posted By: Braes @ 04/09/2008 12:23:38 AM

      Fiat Pandas rock, I drove a one liter engined Uno in the mid 80's in Germany that got near 50mpg most of the time. I wish we could have them in the US, but you are right, a domestic cartel and it's shills are killing us.

  • Posted By: andy30tx @ 04/04/2008 5:54:56 PM

    I already get fifty miles, my vehicle didn't cost much, and it's faster than yours. Of course, i own a motorcycle so it's also more fun than yours. If more people braved the roads on bikes you'd be surprised how fun your commute is, how fast it is, and how cheap a fill up is.

    • Posted By: Silvernail @ 04/08/2008 3:05:50 PM

      Yes! My Harley gets 50 mpg when I'm solo, 54 with my wife on the back (!!!) and 58 if she has a backpack on!!! Answer: aerodynamics. What we really need is a 2-seater roadster for commuting, and the occasional trip handled by a sedan. The vast majority of my driving is in the commute mode. The roads would therefore be loaded with smaller, fuel-efficient cars with 1 or 2 passengers, able to get super milage, without a significant sacrifice in safety since all would be in the same weight range (for the most part). Then I could drive my 53 MG TD to work and feel as if I were driving a Packard... at 35 mpg.

  • Posted By: jboswel @ 04/07/2008 7:04:43 PM

    Yes, auto companies can build 50-mpg vehicles, but such cars that meet today's cost, safety, and comfort standards (and public expectations) aren't coming instantly.

    I do believe we should reduce consumption and emissions as much as possible, but expecting immediate results is ridiculous. For example, when the Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards were passed in 1967 no one imagined that decades later cars would be equipped with 6 airbags, traction control, and active safety systems. The same will prove true of the recently upgraded CAFE standards.

    Auto companies only build what we will buy. Gas-guzzling SUVs like the Explorer and Suburban will stay on the market as long the American people allow. Their popularity is vital to domestic automakers; the tiny profit margins of smaller cars just won't cover their enormous healthcare costs. Just one more problem automakers have to solve.

    The 50-mpg car must be practical, safe, affordable, roomy, comfortable, etc. etc. Right now it just isn't possible, but in time it will come.

  • Posted By: Romans122 @ 04/07/2008 9:05:16 AM

    Let's face it, the auto companies are heavily invested in the oil companies. Why should they make a product that uses less fuel, when that would decrease the revenues of the very companies they invest in? If you owned a restaurant, would you want people going on a diet?

    As long as Americans continue to drive like there's no tomorrow, we will continue to fund terrorist states bent on our destruction. I am a political conservative, but drive a hybrid and a diesel, both of which average 40-50 mpg, and have all the airbags and traction control and safety cages you could want. This political clap-trap about "$50k aluminum" Focuses (Foci) is just a smokescreen, people. Your pusher doesn't want to sell you less drugs, your waitress is happy when you order drinks and desert, and the oil companies are perfectly content to watch you piss away your country's economic and political future on their product.

    Drink the cool-aid this story puts in your cup, or wake up and go buy the cars that already get better mileage and thumb your nose at OPEC and Chavez and the rest of their ilk. Driving high-mileage cars is patriotic, and is the best thing you can do to prevent more wars to secure the lifeblood of our industrial society.

  • Posted By: getzel @ 04/06/2008 10:21:03 PM

    War ends We win: when we pass a law that makes the minimum price of gasoline at the pumps: $1.75/gallon.

    The ethanol investors do not build ethanol distilleries because monopoly OPEC would lower the price of crude/gasoline to rust out the billion dollar/million barrel a day ethanol stills.

    Brazil is energy independent: ethanol; All their cars come built running on ethanol; The gas station fills the tanks with ethanol, no gasoline.

    Archer Daniel Midland made millions in the USA selling $1.00 gallon ethanol in the 1990s;

    That trumps any canard/invalid objection to ethanol. Use Cellulose ethanol, not corn ethanol.

    Cellulose Ethanol energy independence in the USA, will balance the trade deficit, create full employment, bring down the price of fuel, break the monopoly on the pricing of fuel, balance the USA government budget, create less pollution, make the USA energy independent, and end the war because we will stop funding the bad guys everyday at the gas pumps.

    With all the cars running on ethanol; the price of oil will collapse and the radical Moslem hordes will no longer have the funds we used to give them from gasoline sales to finance the war against us.

    I built a distillery and converted my GM car to 160 proof ethanol by 1982; and tried 25 years to get the USA off of gasoline. Unless the strategy I am outlining is adopted, the war that is coming, regardless of who is elected, will make Vietnam look like a cake walk.

    Sharia people are at war with The West because Sharia people believe Islam can not survive against: a free market economy with free speech to criticize Islam.

    International law, has defined a set of war rule parameters that guarantee no war can be won by good guys and that guarantee nice long lasting wars with lots of weapons sales.

    Generals: Patton. Eisenhower, Marshall , Sherman et al would all be war criminals under international law and Europe would be under Hitler; the American civil war would not be over if fought under the current rules; which, intentionally or unintentionally, are designed for a hundred year terror war.

    Cut off terrorist infested countries/areas: no phones, no lights, no motorcars not a single luxury. No food, no water, no ships/airplanes in and out, no trucks cross their borders; nothing till they give up the terrorism. Better the terrorist should die right there than have a war where the world is terrorized for 100 years.

    The leadership that sponsors these terrorist suicide murders are the Heads of state in Tehran, Riyadh, and Damascus.

    Intelligence analyst: Getzel

  • Posted By: wjbarry @ 04/06/2008 3:36:08 PM

    Be careful comparing European and USA mpg figures. The Imperial gallon is 4.546 litres vs 3.785 litres for the USA gallon. Put another way, 50 mpg US = 41.6 Imperial mpg. Anyway, Europeans (except UK) use a litres per 100 km measurement rather tan mpg!

  • Posted By: getzel @ 04/05/2008 8:41:23 PM

    War ends We win: when we pass a law that makes the minimum price of gasoline at the pumps: $1.75/gallon.

    The ethanol investors do not build ethanol distilleries because monopoly OPEC would lower the price of crude/gasoline to rust out the billion dollar/million barrel a day ethanol stills.

    Brazil is energy independent: ethanol; All their cars come built running on ethanol; The gas station fills the tanks with ethanol, no gasoline.

    Archer Daniel Midland made millions in the USA selling $1.00 gallon ethanol in the 1990s;

    That trumps any canard/invalid objection to ethanol. Use Cellulose ethanol, not corn ethanol.

    Cellulose Ethanol energy independence in the USA, will balance the trade deficit, create full employment, bring down the price of fuel, break the monopoly on the pricing of fuel, balance the USA government budget, create less pollution, make the USA energy independent, and end the war because we will stop funding the bad guys everyday at the gas pumps.

    With all the cars running on ethanol; the price of oil will collapse and the radical Moslem hordes will no longer have the funds we used to give them from gasoline sales to finance the war against us.

    I built a distillery and converted my GM car to 160 proof ethanol by 1982; and tried 25 years to get the USA off of gasoline. Unless the strategy I am outlining is adopted, the war that is coming, regardless of who is elected, will make Vietnam look like a cake walk.

    Sharia people are at war with The West because Sharia people believe Islam can not survive against: a free market economy with free speech to criticize Islam.

    International law, has defined a set of war rule parameters that guarantee no war can be won by good guys and that guarantee nice long lasting wars with lots of weapons sales.

    Generals: Patton. Eisenhower, Marshall , Sherman et al would all be war criminals under international law and Europe would be under Hitler; the American civil war would not be over if fought under the current rules; which, intentionally or unintentionally, are designed for a hundred year terror war.

    Cut off terrorist infested countries/areas: no phones, no lights, no motorcars not a single luxury. No food, no water, no ships/airplanes in and out, no trucks cross their borders; nothing till they give up the terrorism. Better the terrorist should die right there than have a war where the world is terrorized for 100 years.

    The leadership that sponsors these terrorist suicide murders are the Heads of state in Tehran, Riyadh, and Damascus.

    Intelligence analyst: Getzel

  • Posted By: billjenkins @ 04/05/2008 1:19:22 PM

    Ethanol is a terrible fuel. Please do some research on it because its benefits (which are few) are outweighed by many, many negatives. Most experts say that fuel shouldn't compete with a food source and that makes sense. If corn goes up in price, so does nearly everything that uses corn... chicken, beef, products made from corn like tortillas and even Tostitos.

    As mentioned by Jimb47, diesel is probably the way to go. The author didn't mention that most of Europe now drives Diesel automobiles while they are still uncommon in the USA.

    I drove a Diesel Dodge Caliber 2.0 CRD and that car not only had power, it got up to 45MPG. I wish I could buy one (silver, please!) but I can't unless I live in Europe. The cars are made here in the USA, too. What a shame.

    I'd put the blame first and foremost on the auto industry and they're paying the price for their stupidity by losing sales. Next would be the politicians...both the ones twisting their arms to be "safe" and heavy but still fuel efficient AND the ones that are ignoring Detroit's obvious arrogance. Oh yeah, the ones pimping Ethanol, oddly enough from the corn producing states, should be voted out of office.

    • Posted By: getzel @ 04/05/2008 8:35:07 PM

      billstinkin: The oil industry rep. who lies about ethanol. Thanks for the lies billstinkin: traitor or brainwashed moron.

      War ends We win: when we pass a law that makes the minimum price of gasoline at the pumps: $1.75/gallon.

      The ethanol investors do not build ethanol distilleries because monopoly OPEC would lower the price of crude/gasoline to rust out the billion dollar/million barrel a day ethanol stills.

      Brazil is energy independent: ethanol; All their cars come built running on ethanol; The gas station fills the tanks with ethanol, no gasoline.

      Archer Daniel Midland made millions in the USA selling $1.00 gallon ethanol in the 1990s;

      That trumps any canard/invalid objection to ethanol. Use Cellulose ethanol, not corn ethanol.

      Cellulose Ethanol energy independence in the USA, will balance the trade deficit, create full employment, bring down the price of fuel, break the monopoly on the pricing of fuel, balance the USA government budget, create less pollution, make the USA energy independent, and end the war because we will stop funding the bad guys everyday at the gas pumps.

      With all the cars running on ethanol; the price of oil will collapse and the radical Moslem hordes will no longer have the funds we used to give them from gasoline sales to finance the war against us.

      I built a distillery and converted my GM car to 160 proof ethanol by 1982; and tried 25 years to get the USA off of gasoline. Unless the strategy I am outlining is adopted, the war that is coming, regardless of who is elected, will make Vietnam look like a cake walk.

  • Posted By: sirhc @ 04/05/2008 7:41:34 PM

    THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS VERY REAL. I TRIED TO DENY IT BUT WHEN YOU HAVE AL SHARPTON MAKING COMMERCIALS WITH PAT ROBERTSON AND NEWT GINGRINCH DOING COMMERCIALS WITH ANNCY PELOSI ALL FOR THIS-THEN THAT'S A LOUD AND CLEAR SIGNAL. Go to www.dakshidin.com for the environment uptick on other energy source(mainly air and wind-I saw on Glen Beck about the air powered car-HOPE SO!)and www.greenglobeint.com for the companies that specialize in tourism and traveling in the most green way because traveling is very, very much a pollutant as people discard and tarvel more frivilous than when they are home.

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