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Christopher Dickey

Terrorist Triage

Why are the presidential candidates—and so many counterterrorism experts—afraid to say that the Al Qaeda threat is overrated?

 
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  • Posted By: Calamad @ 05/09/2008 8:34:50 AM

    Comment: Al- Qaeda is indeeed a booming business here in Turkey,although its activities run counter to the state,s policies and interests.But then there has been thr British connection which is both extensive and verifiable:but who is there to listen and after that have the imagination to see and believe?

  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 05/08/2008 3:39:38 PM

    Comment: But they are nations. And both were infinately more destructive to the world than is Iraq. Indeed,WWII remains the worlds most devasating conflict,of which the American military was given an amazingly,and successful,free rein by their governments to engage in nation-building. Thus there is precedent for this condition for the use of solider-diplomats/politcians. You forget that terrorism relies upon an umbrella of apparatuses that add to their successes,that must be confronted by agencies much more cohesive than police forces alone. Thus it is not simply a matter of neatly excising a singular terrorist leader[as MOSSAD can instantly tell you],but a warren of terrorist training facilities,camps,cell and network safehouses,international funding sources,and the effects of what occurs,as in Lebanon right now,when terrorist organizations move to absorb entire nations.


    Even the casual reader of my above list can instantly pick out areas most in tune with ''police/intelligence'' work,even at a gumshoe level,and where armies must decide contests.[Then too,it does not help in the efforts of such intel and ''good police work'',when such efforts are splashed all over the front pages of the New York Times,as they were in 2006 in totally blowing the SWIFT banking program which was critical in tracing where terrorist funding originated,and where it ended up.Terrorists read the Times too].Make no mistake. Armies will not crack cell locations in individual European and American cities,and cops,will be helpless in dealing with terrorist organizations large enough to organize themselves,like HEZBOLLAH and ISLAMIC JIHAD,and TALIBAN ,into army level brigades and battalions complete with anti-air,armour and heavy weapons assets. If Basra was so ''pathetic'',then why is it is Iraqi hands?[including the entirety of its critical ports and oil loading systems]. How could the Iraqi Army do in two weeks what the British Army could not do in four years? [and where did this poor showing fit in the the smashing defeat of the Labour liberals by the conservatives last week in Britain]? Why has JAM jammed itself into its last redoubt in all of Iraq,that of Sadr City, where it is being destroyed as we speak? What good would your ''cops''be stacked up against the likes of these?
    You would have had a point thirty years ago,when we were only talking Euro BAADER-MEINHOFS,RED BRIGADES,and American SLAers. No longer. The petro-dollar rich Middle East has the power to craft terrorist organizations into standing armies that would rival those of several democracies. In such an environment tandem,effective strategies involving both uses of power ,law enforcement and military,must be crafted to confront these. If ''only military solutions''will not work,you can depend upon it that ''only law enforcement''[as Clinton found to his dismay],or only ''political''solutions [as Carter is finding to his],will not work either.

  • Posted By: gvillagra @ 05/08/2008 12:31:45 PM

    Comment: Mr. Holmes. It goes without saying that Iraq is no Germany or Japan. To compare the problems that we have in Iraq to the ones experienced by our Army in post war Germany or Japan is not even worth trying, so I will not waste my time on this topic.

    When it comes to ways to stop terrorism , let me tell you again that good police work, good intelligence and special ops is not only the way to go, but the only way to go. That is unless you discovered a new way that makes us go around invading countries because they have terrosist cells. Who's next Mr. Holmes? Iran, Syria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Lebanon ???? All of the above???

    As for your comment about Basra, I simply have to tell you that I am at a coplete loss on how can the pathetic showing, and complete failure of the Iraqi Army to destroy Moqtada al- Sadr 's Mahdi Army translates in your view as a U.S. Army "patent success" for iraqi Arms. Are we lookig at the same war Mr. Holmes?

    Finally dear Sir, Let me remind you that if one wants to untie a knot "staying put" is not an option.

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