As reality shows dominate television, they're finding contestants in an unlikely place: the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Comment: So what the author is essentially saying is that if Archuletta wins, it will be thanks to a mormon conspiracy, not due to any talent on David's part.
Comment: Oh brother, do you think that every mormon sits glued to their tv sets following the progress of every mormon on the countless reality shows? And do you think, with the millions following these shows, that the mormons are a large enough voting bloc to sway the results? Sorry, I have much better things to do with my time that waste it on reality tv. And I would venture to say that the vast majority of my congregation feels the same way. Isn't it refreshing that there are people out there in this world that have values that don't follow the current political correctness of the day? Maybe that's why the average joe/jane take a liking to these "culturally disconnected" mormons.
Atkinson, you talk about cultural disconnect? You probably have a mormon living next door that you don't even know about because you're out of touch with the culture of your neighborhood.
Comment: Oh brother, do you think that every mormon sits glued to their tv sets following the progress of every mormon on the countless reality shows? And do you think, with the millions following these shows, that the mormons are a large enough voting bloc to sway the results? Sorry, I have much better things to do with my time that waste it on reality tv. And I would venture to say that the vast majority of my congregation feels the same way. Isn't it refreshing that there are people out there in this world that have values that don't follow the current political correctness of the day? Maybe that's why the average joe/jane take a liking to these "culturally disconnected" mormons.
Atkinson, you talk about cultural disconnect? You probably have a mormon living next door that you don't even know about because you're out of touch with the culture of your neighborhood.
Comment: Would anyone be interested in starting a fund to buy Jamake a life? Maybe then other people could post comments with out a freakout! If we have any money left over, we'll throw in a brain!!!
Comment: Jamake, I think you need to take a look at your own opiniated mouth for a minute... you lay an attack on Mormons like we are animals... you stereotype us, like we are all some breed of monster...and while doing that, you are attacking us in the way that you have 'not very politely' told us not to attack others. We are also human, we do not claim to be perfect, and each of us have our weak areas too... You say that we preach hatred for gays, single mothers and women who have had abortions...well, I am a devout Mormon, and I have a gay relative, a single mother and a close friend who had an abortion... do I hate them... ABSOLUTELY NOT... so perhaps you need to not be such a hypocrite and not stereotype a religious grroup that you obviously know nothing about..don't tells us all about hatred when you quite obviously have some hatred issues of yoiurown...we are all just human, trying to do our best
Comment: Jamake, I don't think you should be judging the general Mormon population and laying on an attack like you just did. Talk about hatred... I think your comment quite clearly shows a pretty deep hatred of your own... for Mormons. Likewise, we are also not animals, we also have the right to exist without constant persecution from people like you...Mormons are humans to, and we are less than perfect. As for judging the gays, the single moms and the women who have had abortions... my uncle is gay, my mother was a single mom and one of my best friends had an abortion...does that mean Iat mean I hate them? ABSOLUTELY NOT...they are very dear to me...so perhapos your own hatred and racism and religious conflict causes yiou to stereo type Mormons and hate us. Think next time you make a judgement...cos I think you contradict your own argument.. quite a hypocrite. Like every other human...we have to gtry too...
Comment: Jamake is foaming at the mouth.
Comment: and don???t be attacking the gays. leave the gays and lesbians alone! or I will open my big opinionated mouth again and telling you mormons what to do and where to go.
so what if they enjoy being with each other. they aren't harming anybody. leave them be.
they aren't evil. only in your eyes you think they are sinners. tell your church leaders to go stick a *** up their tight virgin mormon a$$es!! stop preaching hatred for any race of people or anyone's sexual preference either.
don't be starting to attack them like you did with black people, native american indians, asians, etc.
LEAVE THE FCUK THEM ALONE!! don't condemn them, preach to them, hate them - whatever your good at.
YOU MORMONS TAKE A LOOK INTO YOUR OWN DARK, EVIL,SICK, DEMENTED & COLD HEARTS BEFORE YOU START JUDGING A RACE OF PEOPLE, GAYS, SINGLE WOMEN WHO ARE MOTHERS OR WOMEN WHO HAD AN ABORTION. PEOPLE ARE FREE TO LIVE THEIR LIVES AS THEY PLEASE WITHOUT YOU IDIOTS TELLING THEM THEY ARE BAD OR SINNERS. JUST BECAUSE YOU LIVE COMFORTABLE LIVES AND HAVE GOOD CLEAN RICH HOMES DOESN???T GIVE YOU A RIGHT TO JUDGE ??? ANYBODY!
FOR CHRIST'S SAKE THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO EXIST!! THEY ARE HUMAN BEINGS. NOT ANIMALS.
grow some big mormon balls and be a real christian and show love, compassion, forgiveness and charity for them LIKE YOUR FRIGGIN' JESUS CHRIST DID!!!
Comment: Jamake: I always feel bad for people like you that have so much anger and hatred stored up inside for people you don't even know. Mormon's aren't any different than anyone else. People who actually know Mormons usually like us. You really need to check your facts before you go posting completely ridiculous and uninformed comments. It seems like you have a bit of an anger problem - screaming in a pillow can sometimes help relieve that type of stress, jk.
Comment: satan is on my side :P
yeah i am a devil worshipper. and i hate mormons. so sue me.
FRIGGIN' DON'T BELIEVE IN YOUR GOD OR YOUR SATAN. OR YOUR MORMON HEAVEN!
sick of mormonism. just fcuks you up and everyone else associated with this cult.
hope the missouri state doesn't allow mormons to set up shop there.
yeah, this is where the new zion is supposedly to be for the mormons.
stay in utah. and be only allowed to practice your wicked evil faith there.
WARNING TO THE STATE OF MISSOURI OR ALL MISSOURI NON-MORMONS - DO NOT LET THESE NUTCASES SET UP THEIR NEW ZION OR NEW BETHLEHEM IN YOUR HOMELAND!!
Comment: I am so sorry for you that you have such hatred for a people you obviously really don't know about. Please don't confuse us with the Fundamentalist Mormons. Hatred is defintely the tool of the advesary.Enter Your Comment
Comment: shudda up! MORMON LOSER.
what is god going to curse me like the laminites were? or the blacks? asians?
fcuk that.
god loves all........even the nutball religion mormons, too! ugh. hard to believe.
Comment: just because a race of people isn't christian doesn't automatically make them devil worshippers. so what if they practice their own religion or spirituality? it's their culture and beliefs - don't try and push your demented religion down their throat and call them devil worshippers!
for crying out loud. not all people are christians on this planet. they have right to be black, native american indian or asian. doesn't make them lacking in soul and a good heart.
i am so ashamed of being a white person and ex-member of the church now. saying you blacks, indians, asians, etc. have no spirit or soul or god won't love you 'cause you don't believe in mormonism. we have no right in condemming a race of people and not welcoming into the church and calling them a cursed people, be it in the past or not.
god loves you if your black or red or yellow. no matter what. even if you happen to be gay also. and he will still love you if you aren't a MORMON!!!!!!!!!!!
Comment: As an Ex Latter-day Saint, you should know that we do not shun Blacks, Asians, Indians. Yes, there was a period of time in early history that Blacks could not hold the priesthood. They were never denied membership. Thankfully that has changed. My caucasian daughter is married to a wonderful black man. We believe we are all equal in the site of God.
For those who think we as Latter-day Saints do not believe that non Christians are considered evil are wrong. My very best friend is Jewish and I have a great respect for her beliefs. Yes, there are many that have their own belief system and the LDS Church honors and respects all those that believe in serving their fellow man and doing good works or whatever. The only thing I think we might have a problem with are atheists that actively try to turn Christians away from their belief system.
I live in the East and in the Bible belt. Because our LDS members are so actively engaged within the communities as Lawyers, Doctors, Politicians, Teachers, etc. We are becoming widely respected. It's sad though to have those not of our faith be so biased and unkind as to find fault with us as a people.
We are not all perfect and will make mistakes but aren't we all to love our fellow men?
Comment: Look, when blacks were being restricted from holding the priesthood by the LDS church, it was a time when socially that was the nature of the world the founders lived in. Not all things are explicitely explained to us by God. Some things we are left to disciver for ourselves. This one such thing. The leaders finally came to the realization that such a practice was morally wrong and sought permission from the Lord to change their practices to which I am sure the Lord responded, by saying "it's about time you asked that question...yes, by all means please do it!"
Every religion has had a period that it may not be too proud of and they then must work all the harder to overcome those periods where the ill's men's hearts held sway over the common goodness. Understand that our hearts are good, we accept all men and women and we hope for all things good.
Comment: Look, when blacks were being restricted from holding the priesthood by the LDS church, it was a time when socially that was the nature of the world the founders lived in. Not all things are explicitely explained to us by God. Some things we are left to disciver for ourselves. This one such thing. The leaders finally came to the realization that such a practice was morally wrong and sought permission from the Lord to change their practices to which I am sure the Lord responded, by saying "it's about time you asked that question...yes, by all means please do it!"
Every religion has had a period that it may not be too proud of and they then must work all the harder to overcome those periods where the ill's men's hearts held sway over the common goodness. Understand that our hearts are good, we accept all men and women and we hope for all things good.
Comment: any religious group that criticizes a race of people (in their case it was black people, native american indians, asians) and says these people were once cursed races and lived wicked lives before and refuses to allow them into their church is just pure EVIL
Comment: YET THIS IS THE SAME CHURCH - THE CHURCH OF JESUS FRIGGIN' CHRIST OF LATTER DAY SAINTS - THAT WOULDN'T ALLOW BLACK PEOPLE AND NATIVE AMERICAN INDIAN PEOPLE INTO THEIR CHURCH 'CAUSE THEY VIEWED THESE RACES OF PEOPLE CURSED AND WICKED! ACCORDING TO THEIR BELIEFS. HOW RACIST!
THEN AFTER THE 1960's WERE OVER - SUDDENLY THEIR GOD TOLD THEM IT WAS OKAY FOR BLACKS AND NATIVE AMERICANS AND ASIANS TO JOIN THEIR CHURCH! AND ALLOWED THEM TO HOLD THE PRIESTHOOD ALSO.
HOW FCUKING STUPID IS THAT??!!!
IT'S A CULT. THEY TRY AND PASS THEMSELVES OFF AS ELISTISTS AND THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE RELIGION. NOT SO.
DO NOT JOIN THIS CULT!!
Comment: yeah, yeah, yeah --- holy jesus christ!!! --- criticize the screwball cult religion the mormons and all these friggin' mormon holier-than-thou religious nutcase mormons come out of their gay closets and start to say don't criticize us mormons 'cause we are the one true church on this earth.
WHAT A BUNCH OF LUNATICS THIS RELIGIOUS CULT IS!
Comment: I wonder what other religious groups may eventually have reality TV shows about them? (If eventually there is a reality TV show with Amish contestants, the irony will be that there won't be any of their fellow Amish viewing the show or text-messaging their votes.)
Comment: Jamake, stupidity is its own reward. Have a nice day.
Comment: I've been a Mormon my entire life and never once have I felt "controlled" by the church like "jamake" states in his/her comment. The LDS church is all about choice. No one in the church is forced to do anything and like most decisions in life we are encouraged as members to seek answers for ourselves through study and prayer. For "jamake" to infer that the Church tries to "control one's life-cult like a grip" couldn't be further from the truth. I'm proud to be a "Mormon" and am proud of Mormon's and those of other faiths who are true to their principles. To liken the LDS church (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints) to the FLDS church is wrong. The LDS church doesn't practice polygamy and hasn't since the late 1800's, nor does it condone abuse of children in any form. It's members are not confined to some compound and live ordinary lives in the midst of society. The two faiths are worlds apart.
Comment: used to be mormon but quit. way too much control over one's life - cult like grip! best thing i could've done in my life. and no, just 'cause you aren't mormon anymore or aren't mormon you aren't going to hell.
most of the world isn't mormon or christians.
must SUCK BIG TIME TO BE A MORMON now. with all the negative press in the media about those mormons in texas and how they abused and had sex with those innocent teenage girls. and most americans won't be able to tell difference that they are a breakaway sect of the mormon church or the furtherest thing from the real mormon church. they will just think they are regular mormons.
YEAH, IT SUCKS TO BE A MORMON. ANYBODY WOULDN'T DARE SAY THEY ARE ONE FOR FEAR OF RIDICULE AND HATE.
Comment: I have been reading these comments with interest, astonishment and amusement (at times). It is good to have an open discussion and most of the LDS I know are as appalled as any other sort of Christian (Baptist, Methodist, etc.) by the situation in the RLDS encampment in Texas. Like all things filtered through the media we will have to wait for the other shoe to drop I imagine. As to the article (what?) ~ it's interesting I suppose to see that Mormons participate in the world of TV as much as anyone else, but I'm not sure that huge amounts of time should be allocated to TV in general, nevermind these *reality* shows. Not very many folk I know have this sort of *reality*. Guess I'm just an old-head who can't get mine wrapped around the significance (if any) of highlighting any particular segment of the population for being self-serving, no matter who OR what. Service should *I think my gmom and mom taught me* uplift and support OTHERS...
Comment: What religion is jamake? From his/her comments, it's very difficult to determine his/her beliefs. He seems to hate Mormons, but I can't tell what he loves. Based on his comments, I assume he is just full of hate.
Comment: EVERYONE HATES MORMONS AND KNOW FOR A FACT THE ARE A SICK TWISTED DEMENTED RELIGION!
WOW. AND THE LIZARD SPOKE TO THEIR LEADER JOESPH SMITH. HOW WACKY IS THAT?
JUST AS STRANGE AND ODD AS THOSE SCIENTOLOGISTS WITH THEIR LEADER AND UFO BELIEFS.
MORMONISM IS A MADE UP RELIGION JUST LIKE SCIENTOLOGY!
BEWARE OF THE MORMONS FOR THEY ARE LOSERS!!!
DO NOT JOIN THEIR CHURCH!!!
Comment: JAMAKE: I always think it's great to hear debates from different points of views. But let me caution you...if you are truly trying to sway other's opinions, it's probabl best that you at least make valid arguments instead of just screaming one-liners. For example, how can you be brainwashed and choose to be mormon at the same time. Your contradictions in your arguments show your lack of wisdom and isn't really changing anyone's mind; just making you look foolish.
Comment: ewwww. gross. beyoncegirl92. slut. and a stupid mormon!
MORMONS ARE EVIL AND SO IS THEIR IDIOT RELIGION!!!
WARNING ----- DO NOT JOIN THIS EVIL CHURCH!!!!!!!!!!!
THEY ARE A NUTBALL CULT!
Comment: In response to oxymoronic's concern that the LDS church use it's time to feed the hungry, clothe the naked and administer to the needy, I invite him and others to visit ldsphilanthropies.org to see how much the church is involved in these things. It's not necessary to "sound a trumpet in the street" to announce charitable acts, but those who seek will find how involved the LDS people are in helping others, without regard to borders or
beliefs.
Comment: Two other random (and not necessarily complementary or complimentary) thoughts:
1. The internet is a wonderful thing, but it creates an amazing opportunity for people to anonymously display their ignorance by using poor grammar, poor spelling, poor sentence structure, poor logic, and unpersuasive arguments to comment on subjects about which they apparently have little or no knowledge or understanding. Exhibit A: see comments below. Exhibit B: see comments just about anywhere else on the internet.
2. If Mormons and their enemies would both take half of the time they spend either defending or condemning the LDS religion, and use that time instead to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, or administer to the needy in other ways, the world would be a much better place and we would all have a greater claim to be called Christians.
Comment: Joseph Smith once claimed that a messenger from God told him that both good and evil would one day be spoken of him among all people. At the time he made this claim, he was an obscure young man living in a quiet rural area far from the population centers of the world. Whether or not you accept his claims, you can't help but find it remarkable that so many people spend so much time and energy either praising or reviling him and the religion he founded. In his own words: "It caused me serious reflection then, and often has since, how very strange it was that an obscure boy, of a little over fourteen years of age, and one, too, who was doomed to the necessity of obtaining a scanty maintenance by his daily labor, should be thought a character of sufficient importance to attract the attention of the great ones of the most popular sects of the day, and in a manner to create in them a spirit of the most bitter persecution and reviling. But strange or not, so it was, and it was often the cause of great sorrow to myself." (From Joseph Smith's history). Nearly 200 years later, those words still have quite a ring of truth.
Comment: Hey Jamake...I have been reading these posts...and I think you SUCK!!! Please keep on posting, I think everyone is laughing @ you :) You are very sick in the head with all your twisted and deranged posts and comments...I came to read responses to this article and am amazed at how stupid you are. You make no sense whatsoever and you are trying to be anti-mormon, but you arguments are just sad, as I can tell you are a retard, you can't give any factual evidence or backing of what you are blabbering...I am taking your posts as testimonials of your physiological disorder. I really feel bad for you and am sorry that you have this disorder....I hope you will find treatment soon!
Comment: Great article! Thank you for writing this. It appears that bigotry is still the real deal in America. I wonder how many of these haters actually knows a Mormon? A lack of knowledge is usually the cause for misunderstanding. Please get to know a member of our church before you judge us. Have a good day folks!
Comment: Remember, Christ and Satan are a package deal, you can't believe in Christ and not know that many people spend their lives tearing down everything that is good...in religious debates, political debates, school boards, discussion boards.....
Anyone interested in the truth has full and free access at www.lds.org where every lesson the church uses/teaches is available for review, prayerful consideration or even personal gain (you could build a profitable following with this stuff and raise some excellent youth in the process).
Those that follow the LDS mantra: "We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men;.....If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things" ......can turn out to be excellent and caring people.
If you rip on that you are just twisted!!! anyone?
Comment: I will try again. I would like to first clarify that the LDS Church is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The is capitalized. We carry the name of Christ in our name and are avid Christians or try to be.
The Fundamentalist Mormon Cult are not affiliated with the LDS or Latter-day Saint Church. All the Latter-day Saint individuals participating on T.V. are not Fundamentalist Mormons but are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. We do not practice polygamy nor do we separate ourselves from the community. Our members are actively engaged in their communities and many hold political offices. We value the family first and believe in developing our talents and use them to benefit others. Yes, we sometimes use the term Mormons to describe us but we are trying to break from that name due to the Fundamentalists and use LDS or Latter-day Saints. We are really wonderful people and believe in a loving Christ that is a respector of all mankind. Please learn the difference of our Faiths so you will understand you are making serious accusations against those individuals participating in the Reality Shows.
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Comment: long live the normal christian people.
and hope the mormon religion dies off.
for good. no need for nutcase cult religion anywhere in u.s. or canada.
Comment: Hey Jamake...I have been reading these posts...and I think you SUCK!!! Please keep on posting, I think everyone is laughing @ you :) You are very sick in the head with all your twisted and deranged posts and comments...I came to read responses to this article and am amazed at how stupid you are. You make no sense whatsoever and you are trying to be anti-mormon, but you arguments are just sad, as I can tell you are a retard, you can't give any factual evidence or backing of what you are blabbering...I am taking your posts as testimonials of your physiological disorder. I really feel bad for you and am sorry that you have this disorder....I hope you will find treatment soon!
Comment: I just had to go back and check... You spent almost 6 hours spewing hate.
Maybe you could have spent your time learning the truth, looking up facts or in the service of your fellow beings.
I hope you have a better day tomorrow.
Comment: thanks sjbrock80. was getting attacked by all these mormons on all sides here. or should i say morons!
felt like the native american indians being attacked by the mormon settlers who came to utah.
they should've chased their sorry mormon asses back to the east coast and let the others finish them off there.
Comment: Everything you say is true, jamake. Good points. Don't let the brainwashed, cult members stop you!!
Comment: Not everybody hates Mormons, but most people have no use for bigotry and ingnorance, I guess that would mean YOU! Too bad you talk out your a**!
Comment: guess i am pi$$ing off the mormons on here.
then their real ugliness of the mormons is revealed. and there wicked side begins to show.
what no love for your fellow. my how their preaching this and that soon turns to evil.
see told you mormons are evil and a big cult. weirdos and losers.
thank god i am not a member of that church.
and who chooses is beyond me. brain washed into their little religious cult.
Comment: a mormon is a mormon is a mormon. doesn't matter if they are a breakaway sect this and that. people will get the impression all mormons are alike if they hear one horror story over another.
Comment: guess one can't help if you are born into that church. but you can always leave. no crime in that.
GOD WILL STILL LOVE YOU IF YOU AREN'T A MORMON.
Comment: but everybody thinks mormons are a joke!
and their religion too.
Comment: Do us all a favor and go get some therapy for your dumba** issues and shut up!
Comment: and if you got hurt by any of the negative comments i made about mormons and mormon religion.
well, that's just too bad. maybe you shouldn't hang around these sites if you're going to be a big baby.
can't help if i have a big mouth and so dam fcuking opionionated. that's just me. and no, i won't apologize for saying anything bad or negative about mormons. my right. my freedom. this is still a free country.
it isn't me who is the only one in the world who thinks less of mormons. no siree. that's life. if you don't like it. then quit your church. can't be that important if it causes you grief. you're an individual, not a slave to some cult. god won't throw you in hell 'cause you don't belong to the mormon church. he will still love you. same as he loves gayboy mormon survivor winner todd herzog. and he's a practicing mormon and practicing gay person.
Comment: why does the media hate mormon cults anyways? i'd be embarassed to say i was one. let alone utter the word for fear i'd be ridiculed or run out of town. must not be easy in this day and age to be a mormon. and who'd choose to be one is beyond me. scary.
Comment: Jamake, The more you write the more you make it clear how pathetic you really are. Please, get some counseling. You are making a fool of yourself
Comment: but shouldn't hate mormons if you don't agree with their nutball crazy religion.
they have much right to exist just as long as they don't come to your house bothering you to join their cult.
leave them be. unless they are having sex with teenage girls like in texas. then round them up and throw them in jail and throw away the key and let them rot. god will take care of the rest and punish those perverts.
Comment: had so much fun today.
thanks to all you dumb mormons for responding with your dumb comments.
love telling off people who think they are above everyone and holier than thou.
MORMONS ARE NOTHING SPECIAL. just another group of people in their crazy religion. gotta love bashing mormons. should make a point of doing it everyday.
Comment: any mormons who are unhappy in the church and want to leave the church. GO AHEAD.
and no - you won't go to hell for leaving.
it's just a religion. not important. god will still love you if your not a mormon.
don't be brainwash like i was.
Comment: mormons aren't going to be the only ones in heaven.
fcuk - there's going to be catholics, anglicans, jews, muslins, arab, iranians, iraqs, asians and yes black people too. every imaginable race and religion. and there's nothing the mormons can do or say about it.
god just doesn't love only the mormons and only want just mormons in heaven. but there will be plenty of space in hell for the bad mormons!
Comment: the word mormon leaves a bad taste in your mind. and no positive thoughts either.
ask anyone who isn't mormon what they think of them. believe me it won't be positive.
Comment: the mormons have no allies or friends. especially among other christian religions. not even their own government.
every normal human being just cringes at the word MORMON when they hear it and run the other way.
the word MORMON is mostly associated with cult. weirdos comes to mind also. and a joke.
and screwballs and nutcase religion.
Comment: send that GAY BOY MORMON BOY todd herzog of survivor china here.
he'll have a better time being openly gay and at least he can get married legally here. at least he won't get beaten up for being gay there. or harassed. or worse killed for being openly gay.
Comment: i am just joining the bandwagon here. i didn't start the discussion of mormons this and that. it was here when i got here. we all hate mormons here. or rather don't care for them. not one bit.
but all the mormons who appeared on reality tv brag about being mormon. then their true ugliness manifests for all the world to see. fair game. if you are going to be on tv and proclaim to be a goody-goody mormon then anybody can say what they want about you. even your stupid religion.
but saw it and it's fun. fun making fun of mormons 'cause they are losers.
anybody a mormon fan sout there? speak up. guess not. america isn't ready for the crazy mormons in texas who do crazy things in there bedroom with multiple young teenage wives. and these people came from utah, just another sect or breakaway mormon church. scary. who knows what goes on in utah.
Comment: I wanted to reply to the person who is talking about pologomy and the LDS Church (mormon). There is no association between the two; so you should probably know what you are talking about before you spout out an uneducated opinion.
There are wonderful people competing on Idol and I don't think it should matter what religion you are.
I think mormonism gets so much attention because a lot of people don't know much about it and their curiousity sets in.
Maybe those with negative comments should educate theirselves about the religion before bashing it.
There is good in all religions; so it should matter what church you belong to.
How people act is not necessarily dependant on their particular religion it is dependant on the individual and the choices they make.
Just my two cents.
Comment: David and the Mormons have my vote now that Brooke is off the show! (Sad to see you go, Brooke!)
There is something about character that makes talent even sweeter.
Comment: David has my vote!
Comment: I was always taught if you can't say anything nice, keep your mouth shut!
Not to mention if you can't speak period keep your mouth shut jamake!
I have noticed that ignorant people seem to be the first ones to pass judgement on others.
Color, race, sex, or religion should have no effect on reality TV contestants. They should be judged soley on thier talents and abilities!!!!! So if you vote for someone just because he is your religion, you are helping them to cheat!
Comment: be careful what you say about jews. jews are way better than the mormons. i love the jews. but am not one of them.
my last foster dad was a jew. best dad i could ask for in the whole world. never said anything negative about mormons or muslins or any kind of religion or spirituality. even though he knew i was a former mormon. and he knew i didn't care for the jewish religion. never expected me to convert to his beliefs.
better than the first foster family who were MORMON and just plain EVIL and MEAN. that mormon family is where i was sexually abused and emotionally abused. guess you could say spiritually abused too by the mormon religion.
THANK GOD MY JEWISH DAD SAVED ME FROM THE MORMONS! even if he was only my foster dad. god saw i was suffering at the hands of mormons and saved me and sent me to him to be taken care of and loved in a real loving family (can't say christian home, but just the same).
Comment: who said i was canadian? i am both. dual citizenship. i am both an ugly american and a stupid canadian.
but gladly not a mormon anymore. thank god for that.
the only good mormon is a dead mormon. opps. i thought john wayne said the same thing about native american indians. god rest his soul - IN HELL!
Comment: i'd rather go back to the catholic church (ugh!) if i had no choice over the mormon church anyday.
any friggin' day!
at least you got more freedom in that church than a cult like the mormon church.
nope sorry, been there, done that and mormonism isn't for me after more than 8 years of B. S.
Comment: that's 'cause i say what i feel. i tell it like it is babycakes
last time i checked we still had freedom of speech in this country. or has dumba$$ anti-christ george bush taken that away too.
and if you mormons don't like it - LEAVE. just don't hit your virgin mormon a$$es on your way out.
Comment: Imagine.
Comment: GOD ISN'T A MORMON!! you dumb fcuks!
thank god, my god isn't mormon. nor would he say one religion is superior than all other religions in the world like the mormons do.
Comment: My answer to all the people on this blog, who one way or another feel they have the right to attack others regarding their religions or belief is what Jesus told King Herod when he was taken before him: ________, in other words there is no answer to such comments, whatever one may say will always be misinterpreted according to your faith or belief. We are all entitled to our opinions and belief. My personal opinions is, If we all just concentrate on doing what Jesus taught "Love one another", this would be a better world. Instead of attacking each other we should be more tolerant and more concerned in helping each other, after all, if we are all sons and daughters of God, then we are just attacking our brother or sister, our own family. I rather see the good that's in people of any condition in the world. And I try to help anybody in need whenever the opportunity arises no matter their religion, race or nationality. I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. It's my choice and prerrogative and I have learned that the most important thing in this world is to love people and help others even the ones that don't like you. When you do this they return kidness with kidness. To all of you on this blog I wish you the best . If I am wrong in my belief, then I am wrong and I will deal with it, if I am not what is it to anybody really? In the end it's all a personal choice. It's between God and I and I'll rather let Him be the Judge. I wish that God my bless everybody with everything they need, with love and happiness. Life it's hard enough as it is. Problems and trials there are many. So let's concentrate in what is important lifting each other instead of tearing each other apart. Differences are the most beutiful thing in the world we are all different and that makes for a fun place to live. If we were all carpenters then who would do the singing. If we were all singers who would build the houses. I love to be on this world with all kinds of people. We need to start finding more of what we agree and less of what we disagree. I'm pretty sure everybody wants to be loved and give love. I'm sure we all would like to be helped when we need it. Guys, just take care of each other. That's what God wants, no matter how you believe in him, he would rather you take care of your brother and sister after all they are his children and what parent want to see his children fighting and bickoring all the time. GOD BLESS.
Comment: Jamake, I really hope you can get some sort of counseling. You really need help. Your comments are so distorted, pathetic and dishonest. You know the things you have said are false and you are accountable for them. Please get some help.
Comment: I find it humorous (and in an odd way comforting), that whenever ANY online article are published that discuss the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the "usual assortment" of negative comments (and anti-mormon hobbyists) arise that in most cases have nothing to do with the article being published. Get a life people and show a little more tolerance for others.
Comment: guess i shut up alot of these mormons now.
good.
now we can get back to talking about normal IMPORTANT stuff in the world - like american idol.
and all the idiot mormons on reality shows.
Comment: You are an embarassment to other Canadians. You are even an embarassment to anti-mormons. At least "good" anti-mormons will do their homework and try to win their arguments with some form of logic. You just rant incessantly and just come across as very very immature, spiteful and crude.
Comment: Blah, blah, blah. Get a job, or pet or hobby or something. You are way too wound up and way to dumb to be making a point on any subject of any kind.
Comment: I can't recall ever seeing so many off-point, ill-informed, bigoted, comments in one place at one time. Why is it that seemingly reasonable people that wouldn't dream of saying the N-word, wouldn't express any anti-Semitic sentiment, or wouldn't dare make a polish joke think they can spew ignorance and bigotry toward Mormons? You'd think in this day and age that we, as a country, would be past this. But alas, no. The article simply states that Mormons seem to be hitting a chord that resonates with the feelings of the country. Empirical evidences would suggest that the article is right. I don't recall the article being a referendum on the beliefs of the Mormon faith. Perhaps the haters posting here just needed to have something in print to set them of on an anti-anything rant. Come on folks; come into the 21st century with the rest of us. Hey Newsweek, would you please do an article on disproportionate number of Jews in the entertainment industry (tongue in cheek)? And if you did, do you think there would be an outpouring of anti-Semitic posts such as the anti-Mormon posts related to this article?
Comment: donny osmond isn't going to mormon heaven.
he didn't serve on a mission.
mormon men who don't serve on a mission don't get into the upmost coveted mormon heaven. nope no telestial kingdom for poor old donny osmond.
Comment: Wow!!! You don't even know what you are talking about and you have a lot of that ignorant to say. Why are you so hateful? What did the Mormons do to you? They live by a high moral code, they are family centered and Christ loving people. What in the "bleep" is wrong with that?
Comment: ONE TRUE CHURCH MY A$$.
Comment: is the salamander going to appear before the mormons again? like he did to joesph smith.
hope not. someone step on that lizard before he opens his big mouth. squish him.
or rather let the snake bite him and eat him.
Comment: so glad i am not a mormon anymore!
Comment: maybe utah mormons are more educated, refined and hospitable than the mormons we got in southern alberta.
hey, can we send these redneck racist mormons to you guys in utah?
hate them. sure put a poor example of what it is to be mormons.
why do the Cardston, Alberta Mormons hate their fellow brethen Laminites that live on the reservation just outside Cardston? i thought we mormons were suppose to uphold and value the laminite generation? and love them? "they shall blossom as a rose" i distinctly heard it said about the laminites once by the mormons.
Comment: If you want the easiest way to find out what the church believes in, go to mormon.org. It's that easy.
Comment: This must be a therapy session for you jamake. Do you feel better now?
Comment: I am so deeply saddened to read the hateful comments made by people who are so bitter and misinformed. As members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day-Saints we try to be good neighbors and good citizens. Like other Christians, we read the Bible and try to live good Christian lives. Christ is the center of our lives and we strive to be like him. If anyone wants to know the truth, please log in to LDS.org. Please don't allow alienated, bitter and dishonest people to define us. We are not the people they describe.
Comment: YOu are good people and good neighbors. I know a lot of you. But you're blind to the falseness of your church. It is a lie. It's made up. It's not a Christian church.
Comment: and then in the 80's this one man sold hoax mormon documents he created to the mormon church.
church leaders bought into it and thought those were actual old documents dating back to early mormon times.
they didn't have the insight to tell real from fake. and god wouldn't tell them. god wouldn't speak to the church leaders in utah telling them not to buy those documents 'cause he didn't care for the mormons anymore and how corrupt and greedy mormons had become. he abandoned them. guess they weren't holy enough to hear god. or god just didn't care.
and this man who sold these fake documents was even a member of the church and he made thousands and thousands of dollars from the mormon church selling those gullible mormons fake documents.
but he paid the price in the end. he died. killed himself. the end.
then it was back to mormon business as usual.
Comment: Jamake, I feel sorry for you. You are bitter and pathetic. You know the things you have written are distorted and false. I hope you can get some sort of help.
Comment: oh my god. i hope all those dead people will forgive me that i did baptisms for the church in the mormon temple in cardston.
sorry about that you dead people. i regret allowing my former church into using me to perform baptisms for the dead when you didn't have a body anymore. what a fool i was.
Comment: once the get married to their mormon man, they let themselves go.
except for marie osmond.
hey, why did they allow her to get divorced? isn't that against mormon doctorine?
and why are her kids doing drugs? way to go mormons - keep your word of wisdom. except if your famous like the osmonds then you can do anything and still be an active member.
Comment: mormon women are ugly.
Comment: yeah, foster mom. she was a total fcuked up nutcase.
that's when foster MORMOM DAD started sexually abusing me. guess she wasn't woman enough to satisfy her mormom man.
so glad i got to leave that MORMOM home. it was a nightmare.
Comment: make that east to west. mormons fled east u.s. to west.
Comment: if you *** up to canada please don't visit CARDSTON ALBERTA if you're a native american indian or as they say "laminite".
this is the most prejudice RACIST TOWN IN ALBERTA. and it's all 'cause the mormons in that town absolutely hate the native indians living outside on the edge of their town.
maybe the natives should round up their sorry mormon a$$es and run them back to utah like the easterns in the u.s. did before the mormons fled east long time ago.
Comment: oh god. it's the preachers quoting this and that from the book of moron. run. hide. go far away!
let's be nazis and burn some of their books and throw in a couple of bibles on top.
anybody want my book of moron? have no use for it. just collecting dust. heck i will ship it to you FREE anywhere!
Comment: mormon women aren't allowed to hold the priesthood in the church.
their roles are reduced to just making babies and nagging at their husbands.
god it's worst than the catholic church!
Comment: I am amazed by the prejudice I've read here! Some of you are definitely living in your own very narrow reality and need to get some perspective. I grew up in another religion but joined the Mormon church after graduating from college....it was by far the best decision I ever made. As a nurse, I had a marvelous career, but I also had the opportunity to serve as a nurse in a third world country through the Mormon church....talk aabout gaining perspective on life! I went on to marry and raise a family of 5 kids who are absolutely wonderful people who are obtaining advanced degrees and contibuting in valuable ways tyo the world around them. The Mormon church answered so many of my questions and helped me in raising a great family! It was by far the BEST decision I ever made to become a Mormon!
Comment: WORST MISTAKE IN MY LIFE --- BEING A MEMBER OF THE MORMON CHURCH!!
was even more ashamed to admit it to anyone. but not anymore. thank god he let me see the light and see me free.
FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST. THANK GOD ALMIGHTY WE ARE FREE AT LAST!
Comment: I am amazed by such biased comments! Some of you are truly living in your own reality and lack perspective. I was raised in a different religion but joined the Mormon church as an adult after graduating from college. It was the best thing I ever did! As a young woman, I had many career opportunities as well as opportunities to serve as a nurse in a third world country through the Mormon church. Since that time I have married and raised 5 absolutely great kids who avoided alot of the pitfallls of growing up due to their membership in the Mormon church. Two speak fluen Chinese, one daughter is married and about to graduate medical school and they are all pursuing advanced degrees as well as establiching their own fafamilies. Yes, thjat decision to join the Mormon church was the BEST one I ever made!
Comment: So "the faithful" now can only vote for David Archuletta? Archuletta's good but not as good as Cook. Call me unfaithful but David Cook has my vote.
Comment: Jamake, you're referring to Jehovah's Witnesses when you talk about the 144,000. Also Mormon's don't believe they are the only one's who believe they will make into heaven. I'd suggest talking to some missionaries, you know, the guys in suits? It seems if you were a member of the church these would be some of the basic tenets you would know.
Comment: Yes, talk to the missionaries. They have graduated from the "indoctrination school" at the top of their class. They will provide you with a completely objective analysis of this faith, which you will then appreciate and accept. Buy your special temple grunders now.
Comment: Julsdy,
Do you believe Jesus was with the Father when he created the heaveans and the earth? Do you believe Jesus is God, as he states in the bible, I and the Father are one?
Comment: You keep referring to the Bible like it is some sort of fact based book. I have a belief in God. Do I believe in the Bible. How can I? A bunch of guys had a party and wrote down stuff they had heard about. None of the books are written by God or Jesus. Just people who believe they spoke to them. Hey I say that documentary! Faith is eye of the beholder. Not in a religion. And not in a church.
Comment: mda3333,
Your facts would be gladly received that can disprove any part of the bible. I will check back later to see what your write.
The bible are facts, well documented, and written by those who were personally taught by Jesus. They were cannonized about 150 years after his death, even though they were written over a hundred years earlier.
When the Dead Sea scrolls were found after over 1900 years, they actually proved the facts that are written in the bible.
Also, as it is written in scripture, all scripture is God breathed, or learned directly from God or Jesus himself. As I ask, please share with me your proof you have that will prove any part of the Bible as being wrong. God Bless you.....
Comment: "written by those who were personally taught by Jesus" Doesn't your mere statement make it hearsay? Don't get me wrong. You and everone else can believe in what ever fiction you wish. That's what make us humans special. As stated before God, yes, Bible come on. A few lines of print appear to have profitic experiences and it's supposed to govern all lives. No thank you. My faith is mine, not yours, not any books, and not any churches. As for proof, how can I have any I wasn't there either. I know only my life and what's been presented before it. Everything else is just guesswork.
Comment: I also forgot to state, the Old Testament are facts taught from God the Father, while the New Testament are facts taught by Christ......
Comment: You kep using that "facts" word. Says who? Oh ya the book that say so......
I keep forgetting. Because they said so then it's true.....
What was I thinking..
Comment: I'm sorry "jamake" but the LDS church does not subscribe to that 144,000 people in heaven bit. Your facts are wrong. And to "Judesgold" - the first article of faith in the LDS church states "We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost." So no worries there.
Comment: David Archuleta will definitely make it all the way he has such a great voice, but for Brooke White...it is more of an acquired taste...it took me a while to start listening to her.. I think these two mormons have a lot going on for them. I do think that the top 3 american idols are all great...I really can't decide who should win this thing as David Cook and Syesha are fantastic singers as well. Good luck to them all in the next few weeks!
Comment: Interested One, those points you make, were ones I brought up yesterday. I would be interested in more, as you asked in yesterday's post.....Those were valid differences......
Care to share more....??
Comment: Hi Cal! Thank you for thinking so highly of my posts and for referencing them. I will do better than just list some more of the differences, I am going to give you a location to really get at the meat of the Doctrines. Check out this link: http://www.waltermartin.com/
Now a quick, but VERY important blurb about that link. Dr Martin is either Loved or Reviled, depending on which side of Christianity a person falls. He led an amazing fight against the Cults (other religions that hold trappings of Christianity, but markedly differ from its core theology) before he passed away in 1989. Because of his stand on such issues, Christians love him and "Cultists" hate him. If you Google him, you will find an amazing number of websites that denounce him and attack the validity of his Doctorate, or the validity of his Ordination, or any number of wild rumors or speculation. All of these accusations have been dispelled easily (i.e. School records for the Degree, Baptist ordination records, etc). Further, if you look at any of these sites denouncing Dr Martin, you will discover invariably that they are sites established by Jehova's Whitnesses, LDS folks, Christian Scientists, etc.
However, at the end of the day, his credentials are not what is important. What is important is what he said. I have found in my study of various different religions that his research has stood up every time and his Christian theology has been rock solid. But as he often quotes from the Bible: "Test all things, hold fast to that which is good".
The website lists many CDs that can be purchased for 6$ each (I think) that are very in depth lectures on various central doctrines of many cults and the doctrines and defense of the Orthodox Christian Church. I am in no way affiliated with the site, by the way, though one might think so to read this post. :)
Anyway, I hope you find it useful Cal, as well as any others who are interested in learing more.
Comment: Interested One,
Your Welcome. I will look into that, and I can see from the immediate response, it is exactly as you explained. I have not gone there, but will look into.
I too have also noticed in your posts sharing the differences, not one person refuted any of the points. I have also noticed, on each of my questions, no one gave me a sound answer supported by scripture. Is Hewbrews 1:1 in their Bible? If so, I am curious as to their take on this scripture? I base my faith entirely on the God breathed word of the Bible, and Christ's commands during his teachings. I can not change anyone's view, I can only share in the truth God has given us. Thank you once again, I may see you post again another time.
Have a blessed day, it's off to play golf with my son after school.......
Comment: Walter Martin was exposed many years ago as a CHARLETON AND A FRAUD! This includes the university degrees that he claimed. It turns out that the institutions he claimed to have degrees from never even heard of him. In reality all he had was about two semesters of education from some obscure college. His resume was a total fabrication. This man had NO CREDIBILITY WHATSOEVER! He made a lucrative living off distortions, lies and vicious attacks. Please be better informed.
