Hillary, You Didn’t Win. Now Don’t Whine

The sense of grievance that permeates the Clinton campaign hurts her and the Dems.

By Eleanor Clift | Newsweek Web Exclusive
May 30, 2008 | Updated: 11:49  a.m. ET May 30, 2008

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  • Posted By: dogchaser @ 07/25/2008 2:40:38 PM

    Isn't that to bad for the poor little rich girl. Come on, the press cooed and ogled over her as if she were the only female left on the planet. She got more than her fair share of liberal press support than Oboma did during the race, just as now for every 5 minutes of Obama "news" there are only 30-60 second snippets of McCain. She had her chance and blew it with her lies,(miss statements), about being under fire when she was greeted by a flower girl and a leisurely walk to the hanger. Dam, them flowers hurt when fired from a gun. I am a hard fast Republican, but she had me until she started to tell tall tails. Obama on the other hand I do not trust, tat only means one thing for me to do, remain a Republican.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 06/07/2008 1:51:01 PM

    Keith Olbermann is a nutcase. He has that " worst person of the week " contest on NFL Today I think it is.
    Sure comes across as an idiot who doesn't know anything about sports....football anyway.

    My " Worst Person of The Week " award goes to....Keith Olbermann !!

  • Posted By: dreffein @ 06/07/2008 4:20:23 AM

    Comment: Posted By: dreffein @ 06/07/2008 4:09:11 AM
    Comment: Sharenews and other HRC supporters - it hit me tonight that we can do something constructive to show our displeasure regarding the outcome of the Democratic primaries. Unfortunately, I saw Keith Olbermann say that if Barack loses, it's all Hillary's fault. I was in absolute disbelief. I've sent MSNBC e-mails, etc., but to no avail.

    So, here's my idea. Let's set up Operation Payback (Nins - you get credit for the name after thinking I was involved in Operation Chaos). As of today, I've cancelled my subscription to Newsweek and will NEVER watch MSNBC again. My relatives have done the same. If we hit these media outlets who have so mistreated Hillary in the pocketbook, maybe we can at least address some of the anger we're all feeling.

    Obama supporters - do us all a favor and stay out of this with putdown comments. I think that this gives HRC supporters something we can do that is constructive and places blame (at least from my perspective) where it is due.

    Hillary supporters - what do you think? If we pass this along to our friends, families and post it everywhere, I think we can make a difference. Both to salvage some of the hits Hillary has taken and to make sure that the next female candidate gets treated fairly.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 06/06/2008 11:02:14 PM

    Obama ....the man who slipped through the cracks.

    • Posted By: griffin1 @ 06/07/2008 1:32:43 AM

      Thanks for that crack because we need Mr. Obama, right on time

  • Posted By: Ganpat @ 06/06/2008 1:09:12 PM


    Obama's failure is certain.

    All that remains to be seen is whether it happens in 2008 or 2012.

    To placate his get-out-of-Iraq-now supporters he will have to do just that: scram out fast and leave Iraq to bloody chaos.

    That will pin him with a shamer-of-America label and will doom him politically.

    But - poor wretch! - what is the alternative? Stay in Iraq and completely disillusion all the brain-dead folk who have voted him into office.

    Ahem ! Some choice.

    Next problem: the economy.

    To please his followers he will have to spend spend spend, in a dire econoimc situation.

    That will send the economy into a deep deep mess of overspending and deficit.

    But if he doesn't - again, he loses his supporters.

    So talk-your-way-out boy Obama has had it.

    All Hillary has to do is keep cool and wait for 2012.

    There is a short-term way of analysing things and a longterm way. I am opting for the latter.

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 06/06/2008 10:33:00 AM

    Hillary: Bill, I'm going out for a Midnight Stroll.

    Bill: You want me, to come along, Hill ?

    Hillary: No, Bill, You rest your Weary Head, its been a long Campaign and I need to sort through, some things.

    Bill: Alright, Night, Night, Sugar Pants.

    Hillary: Saying to herself.. The Old Grey Goose, is getting more Gullible in his Old Age...

    He!!, I'm going to get some of that (Hot Obama Lovin) !!!

    Bill: After the Coast is Clear...hits his Cellie...

    Thank God, I got Michelle on Speed Dial, Man Oh Man, is Hillary getting Slow, in her old Age !!!

    Once upon a time, Hillary would've caught Me right Dead in the Middle of it, now its just a D@MN Cake Walk.

    Hillary: Thank God, I got Barack in My Fave 5 !!!

  • Posted By: griffin1 @ 06/05/2008 11:27:17 PM

    For those of you are voting McBush to keep our solders over in Iraq do your home work PLEASE
    1. - Our soldiers are doing 2 and 3 terms in Iraq they have no relief
    2.- Our soldiers suicide rate is up 40 %
    3. - McBush states we will stay the course, what course nothing has changed, but Dick Cheney company is over there working on a 10 year contract.

    FACTS: The Bush administration misused intelligence to build a case for the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003, the Senate Intelligence Committee said in a report issued Thursday.

    "Before taking the country to war, this administration owed it to the American people to give them a 100 percent accurate picture of the threat we faced," Rockefeller said Thursday.
    The report also found that the administration misled the American people about contacts between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda
    OBAMA 08'

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 06/05/2008 10:59:08 PM

    Some say in here better get used to hearing more European names in the White House ? What in the heck is that supposed to mean ? Barack Hussein Obama is about as a Non- European name you can get. His name is ..a good guess..Arabic...oh..and he's a Muslim...can't forget that. So we have to get used to seeing Father Pfleger in the White House , Farrakhan , Rev Wright , Rezko , Rev Moss, heck throw Michelle Obama's name in there too...lol !!

    Just last night on the Fox network they asked Ed Rendell, a senior democrat and governor of Pennsylvania,
    that if all this pastor stuff , Trinity United church for 20 years , Michelle's comments, his study of radical Islam as a child, associations with extremists or terrorists like Ayers etc., came out before the primaries in Iowa, New Hampshire etc., would Obama have won the nomination ? Governor Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania said
    " No " ..... " Hillary Clinton would have stormed through the primaries to victory " . Now this is very telling coming from a senior Democrat. Imagine that !! This is the closest that any Democrat of any prominence admitting to the country that the party selected the wrong person for the nominee for President. Heavy duty *** man. !!

  • Posted By: NeverSurrender @ 06/05/2008 10:41:53 PM

    Posted By: IshtaDevata: If women are stupid, they will vote for Mc Lame in November, and vote against their best interests, and vote for more wars. They won't be doing that because they know it might be their kids who get shipped out next. They also know that a vote for Mc Lame is a vote to overturn their right to choose as regards family planning. These women might be mad...and they should be mad at hilary because she couldn't pull it off...but unless they are stupid on top of it, they will be voting their best interests in November.
    Their best interests being Obama.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    You are totally hopeless. You sound like another Obama supporter using threats, ridicule, and fear tactics to try to "persuade" Hillary supporters to vote for their candidate. Your total lack of respect for Hillary and her suporters is part of the problem. If you don't know this by now, there is nothing anyone can say to help you understand. There will be no going back to the abusive DNC and their disrespectful and unfair treatment of Hillary Clinton and her supporters. Many of us have already signed up at JohnMcCain.com and asked the DNC to take us off their mailing list. There will be no going back unless the DNC realizes they have made a mistake and nominate Senator Clinton for President. Did I mention there will be no going back!

  • Posted By: IshtaDevata @ 06/05/2008 4:34:33 PM

    So, ok, go back to your hand-wringing and allegations of sexism and the rest of the crap rationalizations people in your position tend to engage in at these times. It will pass. Reality will set in. Looks like it wasn't the year of the woman...nor the year of the latino...but rather the year of the african-american, because was it not for their breaking in unprecedented numbers for Obama, hilary might have won. Oh, and don't give me that garbage about the unfairness of people supporting their own, because it's the number one reson why old white men have run this country for the past centuries (notice no old white women have ever run it?), why 95% of the cops in chicago used to be Irish, why the god of the bible is a MAN, and why you women supported hilary. It's funny how it all becomes racist and unfair when the traditionally oppressed employ the same tactics their oppressors have used to marginalize them to achieve the same goal. It reminds me of the Haitian uprising and subsequent villification of the people who dared shake off white dictatorship and rule.

    The race is over. Barack Obama is the winner. The false sense of suspense foisted upon us by the media, pretending that the race was anywhere near as close as they made it seem just to keep us watching, has come to an end. Hilary was dead in the water for months, the 'comeback kid' moniker projected on her by her husband's thralls was just a wistful remembrance of the golden age of the 1990s when Bill worked his magic. Somewhere along the lines, these people forgot that Bill and hilary were two different people.

  • Posted By: IshtaDevata @ 06/05/2008 4:34:16 PM

    Better start getting ready to be hearing and seeing a lot more non-european names in the white house- the say is already here, and in november you'll be saying and hearing Presient Barack Obama a lot. As far as disgruntled women...yawn...next.

    Even your own weak candidate, hilary clinton, spoke recently about how the superdelegates could change their minds- she should know this all too well after several of them switched from her to obama. So your claim of millions being slighted is a plea for pity and the claims of sexism and unfair treatment are sour grapes at the end of in ill-planned campaign rife with ideas of entitlement, ego, and inevitability. Don't blame Obama for your candidate's failure. Rather, understand that she is a dinosaur who has officially sunk into the tar pit of history. It's not that we didn't like Bill Clinton- we did. It's that we did not like his wife. Bill was the true talent there, and hilary rode the presidential coattails as long as she could yet proved that the only thing Clinton-ish about her was her last name. Skill by association didn't translate, and her claims of being ready on day one never really sounded credible because she had no relevant experience to speak of aside that she was married to Bill. Most responses seem to be coming from radical feminists whose vicarious existences have all of a sudden been torpedoed by the more viable, younger, MALE candidate who has come out on top. Someone has to win, and someone has to lose; it is the nature of competition. The loser usually always feels slighted as well, even if unjustifiably so. It's the stages of grief.

    As for operation chaos...please. Why you people give credence to that fat moronic limbaugh is beyond me. As soon as the thing was put to the lie he immediately fumbled and sputtered and talked of his new revelation that Obama was now the weaker candidate and his idiotic listeners should switch sides and vote for him next time. There was never another important contest, so we will never know if that moron would have told the listeners to switch yet again to whichever democratic candidate's performance might legitimize his dumb operation chaos. It was a joke and a half. The man was ridiculed on every major news network aside from that non-news network that starts with the letter "F".

    If women are stupid, they will vote for Mc Lame in November, and vote against their best interests, and vote for more wars. They won't be doing that because they know it might be their kids who get shipped out next. They also know that a vote for Mc Lame is a vote to overturn their right to choose as regards family planning. These women might be mad...and they should be mad at hilary because she couldn't pull it off...but unless they are stupid on top of it, they will be voting their best interests in November. Their best interests being Obama.

  • Posted By: IshtaDevata @ 06/05/2008 3:31:45 PM

    Better start getting ready to be hearing and seeing a lot more non-european names in the white house- the say is already here, and in november you'll be saying and hearing Presient Barack Obama a lot. As far as disgruntled women...yawn...next.

    Even your own weak candidate, hilary clinton, spoke recently about how the superdelegates could change their minds- she should know this all too well after several of them switched from her to obama. So your claim of millions being slighted is a plea for pity and the claims of sexism and unfair treatment are sour grapes at the end of in ill-planned campaign rife with ideas of entitlement, ego, and inevitability. Don't blame Obama for your candidate's failure. Rather, understand that she is a dinosaur who has officially sunk into the tar pit of history. It's not that we didn't like Bill Clinton- we did. It's that we did not like his wife. Bill was the true talent there, and hilary rode the presidential coattails as long as she could yet proved that the only thing Clinton-ish about her was her last name. Skill by association didn't translate, and her claims of being ready on day one never really sounded credible because she had no relevant experience to speak of aside that she was married to Bill. Most responses seem to be coming from radical feminists whose vicarious existences have all of a sudden been torpedoed by the more viable, younger, MALE candidate who has come out on top. Someone has to win, and someone has to lose; it is the nature of competition. The loser usually always feels slighted as well, even if unjustifiably so. It's the stages of grief.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 06/04/2008 11:26:35 PM

    Barack Hussein Obama won nothing. The DNC gave him the nomination. The Democratic party slighted millions of voters and now they will receive the real verdict for their misbehaviour in November.

  • Posted By: Nins @ 06/04/2008 11:07:05 PM

    A vote for McCain is NOT a vote for Hillary. A vote for McCain is a vote for Geo. W Bush.

    There are many McCain supporters on this blog posing as Clintonites, urging you to vote for McCain. There are other McCain supporters trying hard to stir up resentment between the pro-Clinton and the pro-Obama Democrats. All of them are trying to manipulate your mind. Don;t forget that your mind belongs to you.

    Clintonites everywhere have to ask themselves some hard questions. I know that Obama has been your rival in the Democratic primary, but it pays to know who your real allies are. If you voted for Clinton because you believe in her policies, you would NEVER vote for McCain, whose political stand is OPPOSITE to Clinton's. Even if your don't like Obama or you are ticked off at the fact that Hillary didn't get the nomination, remember, it is not about who you like as much as it is about WHAT they will do in office. Obama's plans and politics are almost identical to Hillary's. Voting for McCain because you are upset that Clinton lost is like shooting yourself in the foot. Do your REALLY want four more years of a failed economy? Do you REALLY want the recession to become another Great Depression?

    I am a Republican who decided to vote for Obama, partly because I think he is a great candidate, but even more so because I am very concerned about the economy. Early in the race when it wasn't certain who was going to win the Dem nomination, I used to say that if Obama lost I would vote for McCain. My reason for that was that I'm a Republican, but also because I hated the Bill Clinton drama years, and I just couldn't warm up to Hilary's personality. But two months ago I realized that if Clinton gets the nomination, I would have to vote for her, even though I really don't like her, because voting for McCain would be so dangerous for our economy, which is on the brink of ruin.

    I really respected Huckabee's morals and loved his personality, but when I thought it through, I couldn't see him as President, he just wasn't strong enough to tackle the problems facing us today. McCain is in the same boat. You may not like Obama, but you have to admit he ran a great campaign and has some serious chops as a politician. He can get the job done. Hillary could have too. And who knows, she may be the next VP, and in 2016 the first woman President.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 06/04/2008 7:43:07 PM

    The Independent movement has started and Hillary Clinton is the leading the charge.

  • Posted By: Lanee @ 06/04/2008 6:54:49 PM

    Enough is enough!

    Hillary Clinton has more than earned the right to take as long as she needs to determine her next course of action.

    Quit second guessing, quit antagonizing, quit criticizing, quite berating this outstanding public servant and courageous woman.

    Over 17 million people in this country have cast their vote and support for her because they trust she has their best interests at heart. Over 17 million people believe she would make the best democratic nominee and president of the United States.

    Leave her be. This is not a decision to be made lightly. As always she is thoughtfully considering this country, the Democratic Party, the people she has met along the campaign trail, and the over 17 million voters who supported her in this Democratic Nominee race.

    In the meantime, be respectful and patient.

    And shame on you Eleanor, you have been around politics for some time now. Have you lost your heart? Is it really that hard to support another woman? Why is it that women cannot rally around and support one another?


    We are living in historic moments. Try not to dimenish or tarnish this time. This is no time to be throwing around insults and disparaging remarks.

    Both candidates are quite remarkable and admirable.

    Hillary Clinton has paid her dues. She has earned the right to take as long as necessary to consider her next step.

    • Posted By: YesSheCan @ 06/04/2008 7:41:15 PM

      Lanee - you said it perfectly.

  • Posted By: Lanee @ 06/04/2008 6:35:55 PM

    Enough is enough!

    Hillary Clinton has earned the right to take as long as she needs to determine her next course of action.

    Quit second guessing, quit antagonizing, quit criticizing, quite berating this outstanding public servant and courageous woman.

    Over 17 million people in this country have cast their vote and support for her because they trust she has their best interests at heart. Over 17 million people believe she would make the best democratic nominee and president of the United States.

    Leave her be. This is not a decision to be made lightly. As always she is thoughtfully considering this country, the Democratic Party, the people she has met along the campaign trail, and the over 17 million voters who supported her in this Democratic Nominee race.

    In the meantime, be respectful and patient.

    And shame on you Eleanor, you have been around and reported on politics for some time. Has it hardened your heart? Is there no compassion for a woman vying for the highest office in this land? Is it that hard to support another woman who has the courage to run for president? A well qualified, experienced, smart, and qualified woman at that.

    Give her the respect she deserves and has certainly earned.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 06/04/2008 3:09:27 PM

    Rumour has it Barack Hussein Obama is getting desperate to find a running mate. He might have to settle for one of the stage hands who worked in his campaign. You know what they say... " It gets lonely at the top".

  • Posted By: Monetfan @ 06/04/2008 2:49:00 PM

    Hillary is delusional again. Like her take on the sniper fire incident, she is having great difficulty seeing what is really going on. How does a man of such grace as Senator Obama deal with this graceless woman? I think the burden is solely on her shoulders to end this VP talk. She should come out today and heartily and sincerely congratulate Obama. She should say that she will enthusiastically support the ticket - but that SHE WILL NOT be on the ticket! She should call her surrogates like Lanny Davis and instruct them to end all of this absurd VP petition talk. After last night's ungracious display she proved that she cannot think beyond her own ambitions. She is not a team player. But she better act like one now. She is quickly losing the respect of many of her most ardent supporters like Charlie Rangell - and even the ladies on "The View!" She totally blew it last night. And every minute that goes by without her conceding that this race is over is doing permanent damage to her legacy.

  • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 06/04/2008 2:36:58 PM

    It looks like the right wing operation chaos folks are out in full force posing as Clinton supporters.

    • Posted By: Nins @ 06/04/2008 11:13:43 PM

      Johnson, you are right, they are out in full force. Notice how many new bloggers there are all of the sudden since Obama got the nomination? "YesSheCan" and "DavidGergen" have both appeared only in the past 24 hours, but each one of them has referred to comments that I made months ago. It is pretty obvious that they have been on this blog for ages, but now have taken new names and are trying to stir up anger between the pro-Obama and the pro-Clinton Democrats. They are pretending to be pro-Clinton and are bear baiting the Obama supporters as if they are angry Clintonites, but really they all are supporting McCain and have been since the beginning. It's just more Operation Chaos. Democrats are too smart to fall for that again.

  • Posted By: craig.whiten @ 06/04/2008 2:26:48 PM

    2 words: vetting process: How can the Clintons expect to be back in the white house? with all the shaddy funds they received for bill Clinton's fundation and library? they will not pass.
    as well Obama does not want to loose this incredible chance in the presidency by having a bill Clinton
    on the loose cursing to the press and hitting on every intern

    .

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 06/04/2008 11:33:06 AM

    Barack Hussein Obama is not legitimate. The DNC gave him 63 unearned delegates from Michigan. That could mean the difference between winning and losing. Anybody in Hillary Clinton's shoes would understand how ticked off she would be. Hussein Obama's win is an "empty" win. Its a false outcome. There is no other way to define it. Great disservice was done to democracy here...no doubt about it.

    Hillary Clinton was screwed and tattooed ten ways to Sunday by the DNC and the mailicious media and they have the audacity to say ... " oh my...Hillary...you must concede...you lost and be gracious....we want you to unify the party...please say you to be VP with Obama..." .....what a load of malarkey. What a grand spectacle in stupidity. Hillary Clinton owes nothing to no one. Hillary can rightfully say to everyone to .. " unify this !.. "

  • Posted By: lwta @ 06/04/2008 5:53:16 AM

    As a non-white woman under 35, I was having trouble understanding the level of 'rage' and indignation that some of the more vocal Hillary supporters (as mentioned) were exhibiting in almost caricature-like (or so it seemed to me) proportions. I felt that the campaign was just preying upon emotions and playing up the you-go-girl angle on overdrive--I frankly found it bizarre, ludicrous, and troubling. However, I appreciate this article--it helped me attempt to see that emotion on display from a different perspective. For what it's worth, I feel like I can better understand where they're coming from. I hope they'll realize, though, that this is not their one chance. Every year, more women pick up more positions of power in the realm of politics. But I also hope they'll realize that not all males who didn't vote for HRC are "misogynists." I think of my father, who has long said that a woman would better run this country. He would gladly vote for a woman--not voting for her wasn't about her gender whatsoever. There were more important things to consider--like character, track record, leadership style, vision. I think that when we get to the point where all men judge a candidate based on those things--not seeing gender as a negative--it'll be a new day. The new day is just not the day that we all vote for a woman because she's a woman. But now I understand why it's valid for some to do that.

    • Posted By: craig.whiten @ 06/04/2008 2:31:29 PM

      this is not bizarre. if you remember, a few months ago there was a magazine cover showing Hilary clinton and some aids : not a single man. .. scary thought to have a white house full of woman with Bill around. it would mean another presidency with 4 years of scandals. since she did not divorce him, it seems it was not a real problem for her.

  • Posted By: lwta @ 06/04/2008 5:50:06 AM

    As a non-white woman under 35, I was having trouble understanding the level of 'rage' and indignation that some of the more vocal Hillary supporters (as mentioned) were exhibiting in almost caricature-like (or so it seemed to me) proportions. I felt that the campaign was just preying upon emotions and playing up the you-go-girl angle on overdrive--I frankly found it bizarre, ludicrous, and troubling. However, I appreciate this article--it helped me attempt to see that emotion on display from a different perspective. For what it's worth, I feel like I can better understand where they're coming from. I hope they'll realize, though, that this is not their one chance. Every year, more women pick up more positions of power in the realm of politics. But I also hope they'll realize that not all males who didn't vote for HRC are "misogynists." I think of my father, who has long said that a woman would better run this country. He would gladly vote for a woman--not voting for her wasn't about her gender whatsoever. There were more important things to consider--like character, track record, leadership style, vision. I think that when we get to the point where all men judge a candidate based on those things--not seeing gender as a negative--it'll be a new day. The new day is just not the day that we all vote for a woman because she's a woman. But now I understand why it's valid for some to do that.

  • Posted By: AmericanPatriots @ 06/04/2008 5:14:37 AM

    This reporter as well as other writers and speakers, pundits forget how close the number of

    supporters there are. This was not a runaway nomination.

    Now that Obama is the Democratic Nominee the whole weight of all the challenges over the next few

    months is tremdous. Obama has to find some way to convince over 18 million American who

    supported Hillary to vote for him. He hasn't done it so far.

    Obama's speeches seem so good as compared to President Bush's verbal fumblings and logic.
    So I can see how people can be misled. He doesn't have any real plans at least not well

    researched or effective. Now Obama has to work twice as hard making the campaign trail seem like

    nothing. He has very little time to really be honest and sincere in addressing the critical

    issues for the American people.

    We need effective action day one for four years if he is elected.
    The republicans don't care if my family has healthcare. The republicans don't care if my family

    members have a job that pays a living wage. Otherwise Obama will bomb big time.

    • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 06/04/2008 10:08:54 AM




      Half of them are loyal Democrats and have already thrown their support behind Barack Obama the rest will eventually support him. He will not get 100% of them and that was never expected but in the end if we want what this is all about "The American People" having a voice again then they will support the Democratic Nominee and we will win back out country and start on job of repairing the damage to our great country from the last eight years.

      "ALLOBAMAINALLWAYS"

    • Posted By: Driver of wagons @ 06/04/2008 10:08:31 AM




      Half of them are loyal Democrats and have already thrown their support behind Barack Obama the rest will eventually support him. He will not get 100% of them and that was never expected but in the end if we want what this is all about "The American People" having a voice again then they will support the Democratic Nominee and we will win back out country and start on job of repairing the damage to our great country from the last eight years.

      "ALLOBAMAINALLWAYS"

  • Posted By: NO OOOOOOOOO @ 06/04/2008 3:28:08 AM

    This is a sincere comment to all of those Obama supporters with whom I've sparred over the months and all of those I didn't. Congratulations on the nomination of your candidate...it is finally done after a long and hard-fought battle.

    • Posted By: Nins @ 06/04/2008 11:15:46 PM

      Thank you. That was really nice.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 06/03/2008 9:01:20 PM

    How can people say Hussein Obama can reach the number tonight to be nominated even though he received 63 unearned delegates from Michigan ? This is a false outcome to say the least. Anybody in Hillary Clinton's shoes would be pissed to say the least.

    Thats what happens when you have a DICTATORS NATIONAL CONGRESS running a national political party.
    The DICTATORS NATIONAL CONGRESS ( DNC ) rigged this whole thing for him to " win ". Hussein Obama didn't win on his own merit. Enjoy the " empty ' win DICTATORS NATIONAL CONGRESS...more interested in making history to get an African American to run for President instead of listening to the will of the people and be concerned for the best interests of the United States.

    African Americans upset a lot of people in the US and in the world. Out of all the African Americans to pick for a candidate for President they couldn't pick a worse person to represent African Americans. You guys really blew it. Might as well of picked Louis Farrakhan while you're at it.

    So , Hussein Obama enjoy your " empty " and unearned victory. We're thrilled. People are dancing in the streets. Ticker tape parade tomorrow. Be sure to hide Michelle.....she'll be your doom.

    Rumour has it this real American , John McCain , will be the next President.

  • Posted By: crawford.2 @ 06/03/2008 8:09:06 PM

    The Black Man got the right to vote before women did. I think it is interesting that this is playing out in a diffrent way today. Women are not very good at sticking together and that is why Hillary is losing.

  • Posted By: kathyfnp @ 06/03/2008 7:30:04 PM

    It has been a fascinating political cycle. As a woman, I have realized that we have a long distance to cross to achieve a gender neutral society. I watched as Father Flager ridiculed a senator of the United States on the basis of her being white and female. Something tells me that if Senator Clinton would have had a minister in her home church do a similar sermon but reversed the names, sexes and races, the media would have declared it a fatal blow. NBC, Newsweek, MSNBC in the form of commentators like should register themselves as political lobbyist for the Obama campaign. Women have long memories. Please do not attempt to tell us how we should think. I look forward to President McCain and hope he would be bipartisan enough to select Hillary as his running mate. Mrs. Clift please do not attempt to speak for women. We can speak for ouselves and we will.

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 06/03/2008 7:55:15 PM

      Actually, the only shocking thing about the Catholic priest's parody of Mtrs. Clinton is that he took anything even remotely political to the pulpit - parody or not.

      Catholics are not supposed to get involved in politics in any country - they're supposed to remain neutral. I'm sure the Church reprimanded him.

      Secondly, all political candidates are subjects of derision in any race, we've just all lost any sense of humor in our extreme efforts to be "politically correct' -- painfully so. If I'd been Hillary's advisor, I would have recommended she laugh this one off - I saw it on the news one night and thought it was funny in a vulgar sorta way. He was totally parodying Reverend Wright, by the sounds of it. I don't think it was that bad.

      I like Hillary very much and hope she takes a strong, important role in Obama's Administration. I think Obama will win in a landslide victory this fall.

      • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 06/03/2008 7:56:58 PM

        I mean Catholic priests are not supposed to be overtly involved in politics. Catholics can certainly get involved in politics - sorry - correction of my statement above.

  • Posted By: powin @ 06/03/2008 5:48:41 PM

    Obama is ahead of Clinton by 45,000 votes in the overall count (CNN) provided that all of the uncommitted votes in Michigan stay awarded to him (and they will). By actual votes cast, Clinton leads by well over one hundred thousand votes (CNN). Media wise, Obama's FEW battleground victories (CNN) are of no acknowledged importance by superdelegates, and Clinton hangs on to these viable arguments which, in fact, should be acknowledged. Obama won Colorado, a swing state, which may prove to have a strong republican turnout in the fall. He will have to campaign hard to win the majority of battleground states that Clinton won in the primaries. Undoubtedly, Obama will be the party nominee, nonetheless. He eclipsed Clinton by delegates; hopefully he will do the same against McCain in the fall.

  • Posted By: powin @ 06/03/2008 5:45:35 PM

    Alvy wrote, "You may have had a fat mom or something who didn't care - I don't know. I don't think so. Hey. Is your mom so fat she sh*ts Crisco?"

    OMG, Alvy??? Is it totally necessary to strike w/o mercy? I've read the whole dialogue and I think it's time to ignore people.

  • Posted By: RENEA @ 06/03/2008 5:14:22 PM

    ONLY A WOMAN COULD GET AWAY WITH TOUTING VICTIM AT EVERY TURN! PEOPLE WOULD NOT TAKE THAT FROM A MAN! THEY WOULD DESTROY A WHINER MAN.HILLARY DID NOT WIN THE POPULAR VOTE. IF SHE DID THAN WHY IS SHE LOSING? IT LIKE THE BOSNIA STORY IF YOU REPEAT IT ENOUGH TIMES THE PUBLIC THINKS IT TRUE!

    • Posted By: Concerned Ctzn @ 06/03/2008 9:52:16 PM

      Typical Klinton strategy. Problem is that STRATEGY doesn't work anymore. People are gettin' hip to old school politics.

    • Posted By: powin @ 06/03/2008 5:48:19 PM

      Obama is ahead of Clinton by 45,000 votes in the overall count (CNN) provided that all of the uncommitted votes in Michigan stay awarded to him (and they will). By actual votes cast, Clinton leads by well over one hundred thousand votes (CNN). Media wise, Obama's FEW battleground victories (CNN) are of no acknowledged importance by superdelegates, and Clinton hangs on to these viable arguments which, in fact, should be acknowledged. Obama won Colorado, a swing state, which may prove to have a strong republican turnout in the fall. He will have to campaign hard to win the majority of battleground states that Clinton won in the primaries. Undoubtedly, Obama will be the party nominee, nonetheless. He eclipsed Clinton by delegates; hopefully he will do the same against McCain in the fall.

    • Posted By: DATONE @ 06/03/2008 5:27:13 PM

      OBAMA BLEEDER!!!!!!

  • Posted By: DATONE @ 06/03/2008 4:09:41 PM

    ACTUALLY THE PEOPLE DID SPEAK AND POPULAR VOTE HAS HRC WINNING---BUT NOW WE HAVE ANOTHER HAND FULL OF PEOPLE THAT GO AGAINST THE POPULAR VOTE AND CHOSE OBAMA...ONLY IN AMERICA!!!!

    • Posted By: DATONE @ 06/03/2008 4:24:16 PM

      IT'S GOING TO BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT THE COUNTRY WILL BE REAPING!!! IT WON'T BE GOOD!!!!

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 06/03/2008 4:13:24 PM

      As you sow, so shall you reap.

  • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 06/03/2008 3:22:14 PM

    HOORAY!!!

  • Posted By: Factarereal @ 06/03/2008 3:08:55 PM

    God has spoken
    The Democratic Party has spoken
    The people of America have spoken

    Obama is the nominee!!!

    God bless Senator Obama!!

    • Posted By: DATONE @ 06/03/2008 3:57:23 PM

      WE NEED TO "GOD BLESS THIS COUNTRY" FOR WE ARE IN DIRE STRAIGHTS NOW WITH OBAMA IN THE RUNNING---I HONESTLY CAN'T BELEIVE THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD WANT A MUSLIM, NONE SUPPORTING OF OUR COUNTRY PERSON TO RUN AMERICA!!!

  • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 06/03/2008 1:25:38 PM

    Concerned Canadian - I'll tell you when people overseas saw us as a "Banana Republic" and a "Dictatorship" - it was when Bush Jr. was "elected" after the fiasco in Florida in 2000. His ol' man, Bush Sr., called in his good ol' boy buddy (the former Democrat-turned-Republican in the Civil Rights era, as he was too prejudiced to go along with the "liberal" policies that LBJ had inherited from JFK), the one and only James Baker. It was then taken to the Supreme Court, because for weeks (months?) we didn't know who cheated, who won the popular vote, who would be our President.

    That was unprecedented. Aren't you all glad we "voted" for Bush Jr. now? A remnant of the Texas bastion of the KKK and the old boys' network who treated Hispanics and Blacks like slave labor and whose "culture" made it perfectly okay to discriminate against women and all minorities, as a rule of thumb.

    Look how far we came during the Bush Jr. years -- now we can hardly wait to elect a dignified, intelligent person to lead our country -- Obama!

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 06/03/2008 12:53:54 PM

    Feel for ya DATONE....the whole sees whats happening in the US primaries and let me tell you, my contacts tell me they are not impressed.

    I keep hearing comments directed to the USA like, " Banana Republic " , " Dictatorship " , " Rogue State " ,
    " Anarchist ".....but they know for sure its not democracy.

    Americans are a pretty confused and disillusioned bunch these days. Really letting themselves spiral downward fast...pretty scary...politicians taking the USA to hell in a hand basket. And the media ! Oh my God...every single political pundit in every single network.....absolutely retarded !!

  • Posted By: DATONE @ 06/03/2008 10:43:07 AM

    i'm very Democrate--but i will not vote for obama---nor mcain, i think i'll write in

  • Posted By: Concerned Ctzn @ 06/03/2008 10:21:03 AM

    Here's the "TRUE" Democrat rankings list based on proven LEADERSHIP ABILITIES and overall QUALIFICATIONS: (And I'm not a Democrat!)

    1. Bill Richardson
    2. Joe Biden
    3. Chris Dodd
    4. John Edwards
    5. Hillary Clinton
    6. Dennis Kucinich
    7. Barack Obama

    Gee, go figure! Democrats had a real shot at taking back the W.H. this time around and you folks BLEW IT!

    Do Democrats really believe that this ROOKIE from Chicago, ILL is going to beat John McCain come November? Granted, he has got a much better chance than HRC would have; nevertheless, it's a long shot! The Dem Party never learns do they? This was supposed to be a walk in the park for you folks this election year. But no, IMHO, you folks chose to present America with TWO of the weakest Democratic Candidates and then have the audacity to call it a historic primary race. Please!

    Had you put forth one of the real top-tiered candidates like Richardson, Biden (even Al Bore) your party would have walked right into the Oval Office. No doubt! In fact, I probably would have voted for either Richardson or Biden. Heck, a "Richardson / Biden" Ticket would have been the HOT TICKET!

    But nooooooo ... you folks tried to shove two of the most unqualified candidates down the American people's throat just to boost the amount of new Democratic voter registration among African Americans, Women, and College Kids. Well ...

    I guess only time will tell if your brilliant planned worked. Personally, I don't think so, but we shall see.

    I think we ALL NEED to pray on this election!!!

    P.S. Excuse any typos or mistakes, I'm just getting up. Haven't had a full cup yet.

  • Posted By: DATONE @ 06/03/2008 9:34:57 AM

    It's a shame that the American people can't vote and be counted anymore, so much for the majority wins. Since it only takes Super delagates to make the choice for America, why even have a National vote??? Seems to me the Super delagates are making the choice here not the actual Americans... So much much for America< looks like she has been flushed down the tolit along with her pride and GOD! Please, GOD BLESS AMERICA, she needs it!!!!!

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 06/02/2008 11:30:40 PM

    Hussein Obama has misrepresented himself and lied to the American people long enough. Hussein Obama says he resigned from his ???church??? but what about his beliefs in the Black Liberation Theology taught in this place and he was there for 20 LONG YEARS!!

    Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a Black Muslim from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHIEST from Wichita, Kansas.

    Moderate Muslims can???t tolerate Obama. Michelle Obama says she???s not proud of her country. She???s waiting for Americans to elect her husband for President before she changes her claim that all Americans are racist. Hussein Obama is close friends with radical, racist disturbing people. This list includes William Ayers, Rev Wright, Rev Moss, Father Pfleger, Farrakhan and not to mention his shady deals with Rezko and Mayor Daley.

    Hussein???s parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Hussein Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia. When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a Catholic school. Hussein takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim.

    He is quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school." Hussein Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that Hussein???s introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Hussein Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education. Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Hussein Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Hussein was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta. Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. The terrorists that crashed into the Twin Towers were once all enrolled in the study of Wahabism..just as Hussein Obama was!!

    Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public office in the United States, Hussein Obama claims to have found ???Jesus Christ??? in this Trinity United Church in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background.

    Be cautious concerning Obama's expected Presidential candidacy. The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President of the United States, one of their own!!!! ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office - he considered to use the Kuran, not the Holy Bible, ( Kuran is Muslim ???Bible??? but very different beliefs) Hussein also refuses to pledge allegiance to the USA flag.

    How can the DNC let this guy slip through the cracks? Hussein Obama is not electable. Ammo for the GOP !!

  • Posted By: Concerned Ctzn @ 06/02/2008 9:29:47 PM

    notroubleatall1963 - Re: a part of your comment:

    "Guess what? Maybe all our Presidents are pre-determined by the "wise men" who run the country behind the scenes. Maybe a lot of folks, high and low, are just tired of the Clintons."

    My comment:

    Spoken like a true wiseman/woman. You nailed it. Spot on! Hit the mark!! Personally, I think the Wash-Establishment (aka: Insider Club) chooses who they want LONG in advance. Bottom line is each party takes its turn in the W.H. One Party's raises taxes and the other Party lowers taxes. And that's all by design, but I've already covered that in some of my other post. I come from a family of politicians, and for that reason, I chose to stay away. More of a personal thing. Plus, I've heard way too many horror stories of what really goes on behind close doors. No thank you folks!

    Now most people here are going to think I crazy for saying this (esp Hill supporters), but I really believe that HRC was supposed to be the CHOSEN ONE this time around. She was supposed to walk right into the W.H. Heck, even "W" and the First Lady were saying that she was the most qualified candidate out there in the beginning of the Primary Season---heck, even before the primes started. Continued

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 06/03/2008 1:11:36 PM

      Yes, I agree with you that Hillary was supposed to be the "The One" - I think Bill Clinton and Bush Sr. were palling around together during the aftermath of the Tsunami in Asia, raising money for Relief efforts, and that's when I think they cooked up a little "Deal" - Bush Jr. will do his second term and Hillary will get to win in 2008. It was pre-determined.

      But Obama came along - and was perhaps backed by certain other factions in the Democratic party, the folks who didn't always see eye-to-eye with Clintons, and he has won.

      I think our electoral system is extremely complicated and almost defies description - I think we should move to a direct vote - or some system where winner takes all in every state - it should be simplified.

      I back Obama anyhow, but I would have voted for Hillary if she had emerged as the true front runner. I do really like Obama as a leader - I think he will bring a lot more to the table in terms of pusshing the USA back into the forefront of Foreign Policy, Diplomacy, Economic Theory and other areas that fell short during the Bush years.

      Really fell short.... Thank goodness a change is imminent.

    • Posted By: Concerned Ctzn @ 06/02/2008 10:07:53 PM

      Does anybody here think that it was a coincidence that the past two decades the W.H. has been owned by the Bush's and Clinton's? Talk about a dynasty! We went from Bush Sr.--to--Bill--to Bush Jr and guess who was supposed to be next in line? Yup, you guessed it, HRC.

      It was all part of the Master Plan. "W" was suppose to hand-over the Throne to Hill so that she could convince all of America that the Republicans (right-wing nut-jobs) screwed up so bad over the past 8 years and now I have to ask ya to kindly open up your wallets to pay down their mess. (I guess BO will do it now)

      IMHO is all just part of the game "THEY" play on us stupid, naive folk. At least they think we're all still deaf, dumb and blind. Obviously, that is no longer the case. Just by reading through some of the post here there are a lot of folks here that are very politically astute.

      Of course, there are a lot of people here that are just plain ignorant---and that's being nice. Now ... as the script is always written, after 8 years of Democratic Rule, people would be crying and begging for another compassionate conservative (haha) to take back the W.H.

      So who do you think would be patiently awaiting in the Washington-Dugout in 2016. Yup, you all guessed it again: Jeb Bush.

      You gotta love it! Well guess what? HRC foiled the plan and there are a lot of folks in Washington that are in "SHOCK" that this young kid from Harvard stole her dynasty. Needless to say, politics are politics. Once a politician (and Big Corp Exec's) realize that the Titanics sinkin' ... it's time to jump ship and get on the NEW FAST-TRACK EXPRESS. Loyalty only goes so far in politics. We all know that.

      Anybody see things different? I'd really like to hear how other folks here see things.

      • Posted By: Concerned Ctzn @ 06/02/2008 10:17:22 PM

        Oops: " ... SHOCK" that this young kid from Harvard stole her "DESTINY."

        • Posted By: EKS25 @ 06/03/2008 1:30:19 AM

          Young kid? He is 46

          • Posted By: Concerned Ctzn @ 06/03/2008 9:26:42 AM

            How' bout green junior Senator from .... uhhh ... where's the kid from again?

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 06/02/2008 9:24:17 PM

    Well, he's lucky to live in Canada. Prescription drugs are reasonable and I imagine that he will be able to treat his teenage acne pretty cheap. Soon as things clear up enough to go outside, he'll find a good friend of the opposite sex and forget all about politics. Meantime, we need to let him play on the rug with his torn up dictionary. Give him a break.

  • Posted By: Obamanator @ 06/02/2008 9:19:33 PM

    Everybody, just ignore Concerned Canadian. He is not a serious person. He's just a s*** disturber, gets his kick lobbing grenades into discussions.

    Just ignore him and take away his oxygen....

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 06/02/2008 9:16:26 PM

    Old boy from Canada is kind of like an exploding dictionary. The pieces of the pages fall down, he stirs 'em up and shares them with us. Whether we need it or not. It's real hard to mix Nazi Germany, 1932-1945, together with Chelsea Clinton. Uses a candidate's second name instead of the first for dramatic effect. I would guess that he doesn't like the U.S. How about, "this guy is kindergarten"? Concerned Canadian is likely a graduate of the George Bush school of grammatical usage? I didn't know that they had a Canadian branch. Keep 'em coming, concerned canadian. Like the monkey at the telegraph key. You are going to make sense if you keep trying. We are all for you. Hard to make a mistake in politics. Almost everything is true.

    • Posted By: Obamanator @ 06/02/2008 9:22:24 PM

      'Harde to make a mistake in politics. Almost everything you say is true.'

      Priceless....

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 06/02/2008 9:05:17 PM

    Hillary Clinton will tell everyone to screw it...she will tell Hussein Obama you're on your own !!

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 06/02/2008 8:50:11 PM

    Well system88...the US media is the Nazi Germany propaganda media machine for Hussein Obama. How bout that chump college student asking those phoney vile questions to Chelsea ? The idiot probably was a plant for Hussein Obama. The media propaganda machine made a stink about it for all the wrong reasons...they wanted to embarrass the Clintons. Thats it...thats all. Now, if I was Bill Clinton I would have kicked that chump idiot college punk in the balls...if he had any !

    Hussein Obama got the kingmaker treatment from the DNC. Hussein Obama , despite outspending Hillary Clinton by trillions in the primary race couldn't close the deal. Hussein Obama....this guy is kindergarten.
    Merry Christmas Hussein Obama...even though your a Muslim...the DNC covered your ass. All those 59 delegates for free from Michigan and for good measure they stole 4 delegates from Hillary Clinton and gave them to you. Nice gesture...that'll go a long way to unite whatever it is you are trying to unite. And it took the dumb DNC ...what....15 hours to come up with this brilliant idea.....useless waste of skin these DNC members...plain and simple.

    I like this..its funny.....hey Donna Brazile .." you Momma !! " ....nice..really nice.

  • Posted By: systems88 @ 06/02/2008 7:43:47 PM

    Look at the New York Post story. Why do they attack their own Senator? Grace starts with the MSM. You've had absolutely none and I can't imagine you developing any. You will be the ones to decide if you continue to bash Senator Clinton for her loss and/or Bill's craziness or celebrate Obama's win allowing Senator Clinton to transfer roles gracefully. She'll survive no mater what happens and come out on top of the MSM.

    Do you ever consider how Chelsea feels? 'Pimped out' like Shuster thinks? Why did CNN have that disgusting college student on--twice? What about the nutcracker? Just think of her as a daughter who had to live in the public eye through all that as a teenager. Grow some kind of humanity. Do you realize Chelsea can't go anywhere without seeing the hate directed at her mother? Senator Clinton's grandchildren will be reading this one day--and your children. Will they be proud of your words? Your lack of simple respect and kindness? Chelsea's mother got the same amount of votes as the Democratic nominee - over 17M voters voted for a woman. Recognize it for once. Why do we always hear about race? Instead of mocking the Clinton supporters for their unfound "grievances", acknowledge how it feels to have your nominee come back from an 11 in-a-row losing streak. Rocky indeed. And not only did Senator Clinton come back - she campaigned better than Obama. Even the biggest Clinton hater has to admit to that. Look at the massive point spreads in the homestretch not. Whose limping home? Who couldn't throw the KO punch? Why?

    How important are the delegates from Idaho and other red states? This election is much closer than the MSM is willing to admit. And it has been since TX & OH. Just remember the best thing you can do for Obama is to leave Senator Clinton alone. Let's see how much you wanted Obama to win vs you wanted him because it wasn't Clinton?

    • Posted By: loriw @ 06/03/2008 12:49:24 AM

      Feel sorry for Chelsea because her father was a public adulterer and from the most public house in the nation? Yes, I realize children can't choose their parents....
      But I had to explain to my children why President Bill was being impeached and why everyone on the news was talking about Monica and the stain on the blue dress. What do they tell their children about how they don't respect the President they grew up with?

    • Posted By: Obamanator @ 06/02/2008 8:32:35 PM

      First, it's the New York Post for God's sake!

      Also, neithe4r side has a monopoly on virtue here. Go to the rooms where they discuss race and you'll see another kind of hatred that has also been a factor here. I could have read thoe comments and decided that Clinton was a sleazy racist. But I do not confuse the comments in the blogosphere with the candidates or what they stand for....

    • Posted By: dreffein @ 06/02/2008 8:09:36 PM

      Systems88- very well said. Thank you.

  • Posted By: systems88 @ 06/02/2008 6:15:58 PM

    This is just more crazy Newsweek blog propaganda based on personal bias, an unwillingness to be enlightened and puerile attacks. Aren't you of the same generation? You just don't get it. There is a huge chasm that just keeps widening because of articles like this and Obama bloggers. He wants to unite the Party? Then let Senator Clinton have the popular vote. Why did he have to accept the four Michigan delegates? He's doing nothing to heal the divide. George McGovern and NARAL coming out the day after her huge win in WV. Claiming the nomination Tuesday night would irreparably split that chasm. Wednesday after a final night of celebration - fine. Then Al Gore can cast the deciding vote with full pomp and circumstance in front of the MSM and then the slaying of the Clintons will be complete. The Vanity Fair article was timed to make sure that there was no chance of Senator Clinton being offered the VP job because of Bill. Who derailed the campaign? Bill. Who owned the campaign? The DNC and MSM especially Newsweek. This campaign was decided in part behind closed doors and so it can never be considered non-biased - unless there exists a complete recording of the proceedings. The Democratic Party directly impacted the process thus corrupting it. Show some class and give Senator Clinton the respect of the next 24 hours if you even remember what it is. Think. Why would Senator Clinton say she was getting out before the voters had a chance to really participate? So that their votes mattered too. This will never happen again. Get out of the picture and for once show Senator Clinton some respect. Any unification of the Party has to begin with the Obama camp which means the MSM/DNC. It's in your court. Do the right thing. Even if Rep. Clyburn went back on his promise to remain "neutral". What a joke.

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 06/02/2008 6:51:21 PM

      Guess what? Maybe all our Presidents are pre-determined by the "wise men" who run the country behind the scenes. Maybe a lot of foiks, high and low, are just tired of the Clintons. They're valuable to the Democratic party, absolutely, but maybe it's time to step aside for a new generation of politicians.

      Guess what? Having a female for Prez is hardly a ground-braeking idea any more. Germany, the UK and even India and Ireland have had Lady Leaders, to name just a few. Great Britain has a history of Queens (Elizabeth I, for example) who have run the country when it was a world power in its own right. There is nothing avant garde or very unique about having our first Lady President.

      Now having an African American for our President - THAT sets a precedent for the Western World as a whole, and sends a great message of peace, unity and diplomacy - and CHANGE - to the rest of the world. It sets the US apart and ahead of the pack, once again, and establishes a real break with our own miserable past.

      So think positively and constructively, all you Clintonistas - we all love Hillary too and there is a place for her in the Sun. Just not at the Head, perhaps... we'll see.

      • Posted By: busby @ 06/03/2008 8:50:39 AM

        Too damn late. Your vicious name calling, the blogs becoming a playground for the juveniles who know nothing of the really hard times we could go through, and mostly, your utter lack of respect for a former first lady whether you like her or not, has cooked your own goose. Do you honestly think you can repeatedly kick a person in the face and, when you need them, they'll come running? I have a different perspective than you. So what? The left in this country, the rotten good for nothing media and the sincophants who comprise the democratic party thought they could get their way by brutality and intimidation. What all of you forgot is that most of this country is moderate - not blind lunatics. Are our presidents preordaIned by the powers that be? You bet, and the stupid lemmings follow what the hype says and have totally abdicated the right to think for themselves. But some of us "old, hysterical" things believe that we can still make choices. I'm not jumping on the band wagon just because you have decided you need us. Too damn late. And, by the way, learn to iron your own shirts!

        • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 06/03/2008 1:16:20 PM

          Huh? I know how to iron my own shirts!! What are you so angry about? I didn't call anybody any names?

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 06/02/2008 6:03:50 PM

    Hussein Obama and the Obamabots must feel very proud of their " empty ' win. The bum won because the primary process was rigged for him to win. Hussein Obama didn't win on his own merit.

    Come November , Hussein Obama will earn a nice defeat. People will elect an American for President..McCain.

    • Posted By: kshortSD @ 06/02/2008 7:15:08 PM

      I don't know how they vote in Canada, but down here we vote. It's really funny how some people keep trying to hint that Obama somehow "stole" the nomination when he won fair and square. Funny...

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 06/02/2008 6:52:20 PM

      Concenred Canadian - You're a goof ball and you are not even a voting citizen, by the sounds of your username! What do you care?

      • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 06/02/2008 8:38:08 PM

        Put a wall around your country because of the rest of the world is sick and tired of seeing and hearing you stupid idiots. Your country is so effed up...you don't even realize it. Racism is not your addiction...its stupidity...and there is plenty of it to go around in the US.

        • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/02/2008 9:04:30 PM

          You are a disgrace to your country if you are truly Canadian. When Obama wins in November it will be sweet revenge for all the lies you have posted and all the insults you have directed at both he and his wife, his supporters and the journalists of many of the articles you have not agreed with for the last two months.

          • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 06/04/2008 11:25:40 AM

            I love you too Pia....want to join me for some nice red wine and delicious pasta ?

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 06/02/2008 5:56:37 PM

    We are getting ready to kick the republican door in. Hillary and Bill are absolutely necessary in this task. They are too professional to drop out. Their legacy and our history are at stake.

    • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 06/02/2008 6:58:17 PM

      So what do you suggest? That the Clintons steal the nomination and ace Obama out? Then you'll have a mess on your hands.

      I blame Hillary for splitting the Democratic party this season - she has been much too combative and should have realized that earlier on - she may have won if she'd only focused on her positive messages rather than look for opportunities to deride Obama. That is old-school and so yesterday's politics. Everyone is so sick of dirty tricks afer 7 years of Bush lies. Enough already - people are ready for a change. And if you're not sure how that will manifest, why not take a leap of faith that the Democrats will figure it out and Obama will lead the charge? Hillary and Bill are valuable, sure, but why on EARTH do they want the WHITE HOUSE BACK after 8 previous years of scandal, controversy and antagonism?? What is prompting them to INSIST that they must have it back? There should be a limit on the number of years a single family can dominate the White House - and that applies to Bushes too.

      No more Clintons, no more Bushes. Yeeeccchhh!!!!

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 06/02/2008 5:53:47 PM

    I must say that only a lady could get by with using the word "whine" in the title of this article, and it is not certain that she did get by with it.

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 06/02/2008 5:52:07 PM

    It is very difficult to remove gender from a society which consists of people almost equally divided in number between the two genders. Then, some are more sensitive than others, and easy to take offense when none is intended. There are very complex relationships between the genders involving courtship, mating, and reproducing that come into the picture. It is to our credit that we are trying to do this in such a way that all citizens can live in a state of equality, same as we have so energetically done in matters of race for many years now. It will probably never be completely done right, but, for heaven's sake, give those of us who have tried with all our might to make happen a break. Try not to be so damned sensitive when we inadvertently screw up. We are doing our best.

  • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 06/02/2008 4:52:02 PM

    Why are the Clintonistas so "angry" anyway? Hillary ran a fabulous race, showed herself to be a strong and talented leader, and established a clear possibility for 2012, if not an actual VP or other high-level role in the next Democratic Administration. What is there to be ANGRY ABOUT?

    She lost the nomination, not because she is a woman, but for many complex reasons, and many of which point to poor planning and possibly an underestimation of Obama's and/or other candidates' chances of beating her. She overestimated, perhaps, her strengths - and it's only been lately that she seems to have found her message and her stride. She did EXTREMELY WELL and all Hillary supporters should BE VERY PROUD.

    But Obama is the likely winner. And being angry, hurt, pissed off, ranting against the unfairness of the rules (that she in fact wanted to bend, despite agreeing to them in the first place), is just plain dumb. Get over it, and get behind Obama .. He too is highly talented, charismatic, brilliant -- but he's also an extraordinarily gifted organizer, manager and communicator - I think that is the reason he is winning. It has nothing to do with Hillary being treated unfairly by the press or anyone else. This guy is just a master - the master at his game, and with so much more potential to add to his already splendid performance and Presidential debut during the campaign season.

    Nobody could have seen him coming, at least not like this, and nobody means any disrespect for Hillary. I myself graduated from her same alma mater (college) and I would normally have supported her if I hadn't been so impressed with Mr. Obama.

    So let's join forces and get over the "anger" and the sense of "unfairness" -- it's just not really rational or reasonable and we need all the help we can get in the Fall to get a Dem in the White House. It's not likely to be Hillary.

    Go Obama!

    • Posted By: kshortSD @ 06/02/2008 5:29:57 PM

      Nice post! It does no good to play the blame game now, and Obama deserves credit for running a stellar campaign to come out of nowhere and beat the long-favored front-runner. Clearly, he's doing something right. Let's rally and win in November!

    • Posted By: EKS25 @ 06/02/2008 5:14:30 PM

      After watching Obamanator's link http://youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM I now can understand why a lot of people are angry. I don't watch TV so I had no idea how mean and hateful the media was to Hillary. It makes me sick. I never took seriously when anybody claimed sexism but it is the only explanation.
      I never heard anything like regarding a politician or anybody else.

      • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 06/02/2008 7:02:55 PM

        Oh lighten up - if this links to the mocking preist in Obama's church (I can't download from my current computer), then I thought it was food for Saturday Night Live - how could you watch that man and not laugh at his parody? It was silly, it was funny, and it was meant tongue-in-cheek. Does Hillary not have a sense of humor??? Is everyone else losing theirs?? The commentator on the news could barely hold back a smile once she aired this footage on the news - and she was an avowed Hillary supporter! For pete's sake, folks, lighten up!!!!

        It's parody - P-A-R-O-D-Y - check into it!

      • Posted By: kshortSD @ 06/02/2008 5:41:45 PM

        I just watched the Youtube video. It definitely shows the ugly side of the media's coverage of this election. I would expect more from professional journalists.

        However, Senator Clinton, in my opinion, has put herself in the position to receive some criticism and mocking. In reference to her changes in personality and behavior, her attempts to do whatever it takes to win votes are pretty obvious, and one can rightfully accuse her of being somewhat phony in this regard. Her act of being hard as nails one minute to show she's strong enough to be commander-in-chief, then crying for the female voters the next minute is calculated. And how can we not poke fun at someone who will fabricate a story about dodging sniper fire in order to look tough? Putting on a false Southern accent when speaking in Southern states is another example. Claiming that every vote counts, then disregarding caucus states and "insignificant" states. Her behavior has invited some ridicule.

        • Posted By: EKS25 @ 06/03/2008 1:37:13 AM

          You and the media didn't feel you have to poke fun at Obama, when he said his pare