Hillary, You Didn’t Win. Now Don’t Whine

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  • Posted By: mvizueta @ 05/31/2008 2:16:57 PM

    Wow! Eleanor didn't know that you were also a women hater. Whine? Such a poor choice of words. But I bet it sells magazines. No one is whining the primaries are close, Hillary has every rigtht to keep on trying and for her supporters to keep on supporting her. Pointing out sexim is whining? I guess all woman should just shut up and get back to the kitchen.

  • Posted By: bill i @ 05/31/2008 2:10:56 PM

    WHY DON'T YOU AND THE REST OF NEWSWEEK'S RADICAL LEFT WING PARTISAN POLITICAL HACKS JUST START YOUR OWN PARTY AND QUIT TRYING TO HIJACK THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. YOU CAN TAKE ALL OF NBC/MSNBC'S PROPAGANDA SPEWING ALLEGED JOUNALIST'S WITH YOU.


  • Posted By: scribe15 @ 05/31/2008 1:58:17 PM

    Your article adds to the real sense of grievance we women are all "whining" about. Your choice of the word "whining" trivializes our concerns...it is a sexist word, like "shrill", often used to denigrate women. You say you acknowledge sexism in the campaign, and then give examples like Obama pulling out a chair for Hillary- as if that is the level of sexism that is occurring in the campaign, and that we are all "silly" (another favorite Obama put-down word) and over-reacting women. We are not. The sexism has been virulent, and it is legitimate to say that Clinton has been disadvantaged by it in her campaign. We have every right to demonstrate outside the DNC meeting today, and Hillary has every right to take her fight to the convention if needed. Enough with the "be a good loser" , "think of the party". The worst sexism of all is the superdelegates betting that Clinton's female supporters are more likely to "come home"- read- DO WHAT WE TELL THEM TO DO- in Nov. because they are women, so not the same threat as "racial unrest" which might come if Obama were not nominated. I can't imagine someone writing a column like yours telling Obama supporters to suck it up and "stop whining", if the superdelegates had had the guts to go for Hillary. Ms. Clift, your loyalties are misguided and your closet Hillary-hate is showing.

  • Posted By: andrewbrobinson @ 05/31/2008 1:45:50 PM

    Thank goodness I never have to take a class taught by O'Connor. The Clinton campaign got this blue dog thinking about voting Repub for the first time in my life. Sexist? Absolutely not. It was the lies, the front, the hustles and the energy draining Clintonian drama. She bungled her campaign; so why would she be a better president? It is these issues and questions that have me adamantly anti-Clinton.

  • Posted By: TexaDem @ 05/31/2008 11:38:56 AM

    I have contributed to both the Clinton and Obama campaigns. And I agree that the media was biased against Senator Clinton. But in my view, that bias is based more on Clinton fatigue and her position as heir apparent. Everyone loves the underdog story and the underdog sells newspapers and magazines and gets ratings. But because of her association with President Clinton, Senator Clinton also has received more attention and credit than would Senator Biden or Senator Dodd.

    • Posted By: Concerned Ctzn @ 05/31/2008 1:37:34 PM

      Thumbs up post!

  • Posted By: glimps @ 05/31/2008 1:35:48 PM

    is any other Democrat watching the FL & MI delegate debate today?

  • Posted By: celested9 @ 05/31/2008 1:19:43 PM

    Eleanor, drop dead!!!

    I won't even bother trying to reason with you.

  • Posted By: wehogal @ 05/31/2008 1:10:21 PM

    Wow, Eleanor, you, an educated woman shock me! The reason men rule the world is because they've got each other's backs. There have been many whining men along the way in power (shock, but they've ruled since the beginning of time), but they didn't sit there and pen how they should stop whining. Instead, they promoted them, gave them bonuses and slapped them on the back and then went out for drinks. Wow, absolutely shocking. When women and you decide to support each other I've got a surprise for you. You and I will rule the world. We will be in equal (maybe larger) offices, make the same pay... So when you women cry (I'm a woman) about smaller offices, less pay, etc., I've got 5 words for you: "YOU VOTED FOR HIM, STUPID!"

    • Posted By: Concerned Ctzn @ 05/31/2008 1:13:25 PM

      Wow! Sounds like you need a McDrink.

      • Posted By: NO OOOOOOOOO @ 05/31/2008 1:17:51 PM

        Concerned Ctzn...I agree wholeheartedly with wehogal...but I must admit, I chuckled at your response! Thank you for the humor...it is refreshing.

  • Posted By: Concerned Ctzn @ 05/31/2008 12:54:50 PM

    POLITICAL POETRY

    Mc Green vs. McSame

    What a McShame

    But anything's BETTER than another four years of McHIll and Mr.Bill.

    Gee, what a McThrill that would have been to see McShrill put good ol' Bill

    through the McMill for 4 long, long years

    It's all your fault McSame

    you were supposed to go head-to-head with this powerful McDame

    But in the end, there will be no GE for her, instead ....

    The over-ambitious, self-destructive McFlamed-out

    will go down in history as a Honorable Mentioned

    in the distinguished "DemKat" Hall of Shame.

    End of Game McDame

    Good luck ma'am, here's a buck ...


    Sincerely,

    WTF Chuck


    P.S. Vote NOT 4 the McGreen Party ...
    and get HOT for the Libertarian Party 2008!

    P.S.S. That was a McShameful attempt at poetry by the this McGrumpy old man

  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 05/31/2008 1:04:49 AM

    Well, well, well....looks like The BarackStar attached a $200,000 earmark to a bill. Earmark was for FATHER FLAMER. Hmmm....this gets better and better.

    NOBAMA!!!

    • Posted By: msvcraig @ 05/31/2008 12:02:38 PM

      Politicians are in the business of helping people money is earmarked to many organizations during ones political career. Obama is not the mouth police for everyone that says they support him. The priest's statements can only be attributed to him...as foolish as they may be...make him accountable not Obama.

    • Posted By: INDEPENDENTFORHILL @ 05/31/2008 2:35:10 AM

      The New York Times reported in early May that the Catholic Church run by Rev. Pfleger received a $100,000 earmark from Sen. Obama and that Pfleger is one of the religious leaders whose "faith testimonials" is posted on the Obama presidential campaign Web site.
      The same Rev Pfleger that trashed Hillary and all white people in general is actually listed on Obama's web site!!! Don't tell me he isn't a closet racist. Problem is (for him, at least) his "mentors" keep opening the closet door!!!

      • Posted By: TruthForward @ 05/31/2008 8:36:18 AM

        No the Catholics don't take earmark moneys. But anyway, Obama does not have to pay off people to be liked: But that's exactly what the Clintons do, Clintons pay off churches.

        • Posted By: damitajo1 @ 05/31/2008 9:36:29 AM

          Yeah, ok. Obama only cures leprosy, right?

          • Posted By: tired and old @ 05/31/2008 10:12:06 AM

            OBVIOUSLY HE FAILED IN YOUR CASE !

            SEE WHAT HOLY ROLLER CAN DO FOR YOU !

  • Posted By: NO OOOOOOOOO @ 05/31/2008 8:12:53 AM

    Give it up busby and INDEPENDENT...The Os are all so far gone it's pathetic...I sit here in amazement reading their posts. You could put something directly in front of them, something TOTALLY OBJECTIVE, and they'd find some excuse for O. Oh oh oh wow!

    • Posted By: TexaDem @ 05/31/2008 12:00:00 PM

      Most people who troll the comments sections of various articles are strong supporters of their particular candidate. And the sort of behavior you describe (i.e., reading an objective piece and finding an excuse for their candidate) could also apply to Clinton supporters and McCain supporters, alike. But as someone who contributed to both the Clinton and Obama campaigns, I am not incapable of being objective. Finally, as a sidenote, nothing is TOTALLY OBJECTIVE.

  • Posted By: MaiJaden @ 05/31/2008 11:44:35 AM

    Eleanor, Get a grip. I have never heard or read that ANYONE thought it was sexism to pull out Hillary's chair for her. You are dillusional and a fabricator of issues. What a crappy journalist.

    • Posted By: TexaDem @ 05/31/2008 11:53:06 AM

      Clift was merely pointing out that some women's rights advocates object to those "gentlemanly" gestures as being patronizing and sexist. She didn't express her own view on that, although I suspect she does not find it objectionable based on the general tone of her piece. She is not delusional. As a person who is only 10 years removed from college and 7 years removed from law school, I can attest to the fact that there are people who have these views.

  • Posted By: bluelagoon @ 05/31/2008 11:44:48 AM

    HILLARY IS RIGHT! IN AMERICA OR ANY PART OF THE WORLD EXIST MAN WHO DISRESPECT WOMAN AND FAMILY.. SHE SLEEPS WITH ONE EVERY NIGHT OR SO: BILL CLINTON!

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 05/31/2008 1:06:49 AM

    MacLean......you're nothing but a cult follower with blind loyalty and a traitor to the United States of America.
    I suggest you sign up at the Trinity Church to complete your transformation into a sick twisted Obamabot !!

    • Posted By: C. MacLean @ 05/31/2008 11:43:13 AM

      I am far from blind, and I'm not particularly loyal to Obama - I would have much preferred to vote for Governor Richardson, or even Joe Biden, but neither made it to my state's primary.

      I think McCain is headed in all the wrong directions, and I just don't see that HRC is all that, so Obama it is.

      Since this is a country where we have free speech, your are free to say anything you chose, as am I, but I do not appreciate being called a traitor to my country because I happen to have opinions that a foreigner doesn't agree with.

      You would be better served to find someone in your own country to insult.

    • Posted By: yupik1 @ 05/31/2008 2:59:35 AM

      How can you call someone a traitor when you're a citizen of Canada, eh? You probably left the U.S. when NAFTA sent our jobs to Canada....Who's the traitor now, eh?

      • Posted By: damitajo1 @ 05/31/2008 9:35:34 AM

        Our jobs didnt go to Canada. LOL. They mainly went to China, India, and mechanization.

  • Posted By: bluelagoon @ 05/31/2008 11:41:41 AM

    HILLARY IS RIGHT IN SAYING THAT OUT THERE EXIST MANY PEOPLE WHO DISRESPECT WOMAN BECAUSE SHE SLEEPS WITH ONE EVERY NIGHT OR SO: BILL CLINTON!

  • Posted By: TexaDem @ 05/31/2008 11:32:56 AM

    It's not particularly startling to me that Professor O'Connor would say that, all else being equal, for her gender is more of a tiebreaker than race. That is a fair value judgment for her to make as an individual. But her position is completely undermined by the fact that all else is not equal between Senator Clinton and Senator Obama. From a policy perspective, sure. But Presidents are not made or unmade by policy positions alone. It is also about their leadership abilities, and Senator Obama's superior leadership style has shown through during his campaign. Moreover, Professor O'Connor is wrong about the future of women in presidential politics. Senator Obama could select a woman vice presidential nominee from the many prominent women who serve a leadership role in his campaign. But what this primary campaign has demonstrated more clearly than anything else is that a viable candidate can come from virtually nowhere and derail an heir apparent. If Senator Obama does not select a woman as his vice presidential nominee, I predict that there will be several viable woman candidates the next time the Democratic primary is contested. Apart from the triumvirate of Govs. Napolitano and Sebelius and Senator McCaskill, my personal favorite is Congresswoman Stephanie Herseth Sandlin.

  • Posted By: BIG JIM @ 05/31/2008 10:14:02 AM

    Ms, clift,

    stick it up your ugly skinny ass

    • Posted By: tired and old @ 05/31/2008 11:29:11 AM

      BIG JIM OR SLIM JIM !

      YOUR STILL WRINKLED AND GREASE FILLED.

      CLIFT HAS AN OPINION AND BIG ? HAS NOTHING TO SAY, TO SWAY, THOSE THAT WANT LOGICAND REASON.

  • Posted By: scabo @ 05/31/2008 11:14:02 AM

    Father Pfleger's vile message is the message of the Obama campaing. Clinton run on issues, and she first went negative in Texas with the 3 A.M.-ad and still within her issue of experience. Obama-campaign ran subtle negativiies from day one, one day he opens the door to call her assasine, evil and killer on the RFK-remarks, and the next day he plays all innocent forgiving "excusing her" blaming fatighe, when it was not even a gaffe. Not like his "Sweetiegate" or all those Auschwitz lies he told of his grandfather, which she left (and unfortunately the press too). He disrespects her daily and plays dirty. It's easy winning elections when you bully opponent out before election day. Obama is a thug, he's done it before. Stand up to the bully! If anyone can do it, she can.

    • Posted By: tired and old @ 05/31/2008 11:25:12 AM

      SCAB !

      PLAYING DIRTY HILLARY TRICKS IS WRONG.

  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 05/30/2008 5:46:31 PM

    Liberalism should be re-classified as a mental disorder.............

    As simply as I can put it, Modern Liberals firmly believe that the average person is a danger to himself and others. They believe that the purpose of government is to protect us all... not from external enemies, but from internal enemies... inside our heads. Liberals believe that people need to be protected from themselves; that they are incapable of making rational decisions; that people are sheep who need to be led. And they believe that they, the Liberals, are the proper shepherds. Liberals have a complete disdain for the "common herd", and show it in every plan they acclaim, in every law they propose, and in every phrase they utter.

    Liberals have an unhealthy fear of human differences, and yet also have a hatred of the "normal". For instance, they believe that people -- and by "people", they mean "you" -- are not capable of responsible gun ownership, because you just might go wild and shoot someone, controlled by something scary inside your head that you don't even know is there, and can't fix. They believe that you, if you ever had ancestors from Africa, are unable to compete on an equal basis with people of European descent -- nor can you females compete on the same level as males, nor any of you non-white-males compete with white males equally. They believe that you need to be helped, protected, given advantages, and consoled (with money) when you fail. They believe that you white males are full of secret hatreds that you don't even realise you harbor, and that you need to be trained not to express -- and if you DO express your "wrong" opinions, it can cause actual harm to others. Liberals believe that as children, you should all be taught that you are no different than anyone else -- no winners, no losers, no ranking, no grades, no pass, no fail, no punishments and no rewards -- and then want you to "celebrate your diversity". Is this not the sign of some kind of mental disease?

    NOBAMA!!!

    • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 05/30/2008 5:55:52 PM

      You exhibit in your first sentence why nothing you post should be given any credence whatsoever.

      • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 05/30/2008 6:04:24 PM

        So you disagree with the assesment??? Don't mumble. Make a point. I know that is tough for obamamohammeds. Try at least.

        NOBAMA!!!

        • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 05/30/2008 6:08:45 PM

          You have no credibility. According to you I have a mental disorder. So why would I read your diatribe?

          Unfortunately for you, the majority of us with this 'mental disorder' are still allowed to vote and Obama will be our next president. Perhaps you and the other right-wing nutjobs should think about the coup they will need to overturn the coming election.

          • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 05/30/2008 6:18:43 PM

            No he won't. Delusion is another sign of acute liberalism. Hussein has a near 0% chance of becoming POTUS. 15 states MAX. That will take some doing.

            NOBAMA!!!

            • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 05/30/2008 6:21:51 PM

              Obama will win unless someone takes him out first. Ah ha! Do you know something? After all, it was your crowd who took care of the Murrah building in Oklahoma.

              • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 05/30/2008 6:35:12 PM

                Ya'll left-wing loonies are all a bunch of sissies. McVeigh was arrested, convicted, and executed. Unlike many of the punka*s mohammed's who try to but, are to stupid to accomplish something similar..

                NOBAMA!!!

                • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 05/30/2008 6:37:28 PM

                  He was executed. I bet you wore black that day for your fallen comrade.

                  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 05/30/2008 6:47:10 PM

                    Not quite. Unlike yourself and the other looney-tunes, I love my nation. I hate all her enemies. Both foreign and domestic. I guess you fall under domestic. Don't know about Hussein though. He has dual-citizenship. Could be considered both.

                    NOBAMA!!!

                    • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 05/30/2008 8:39:22 PM

                      You are an enemy of America. All intolerant christofascists like yourself are an enemy of the American Way. You should just kill yourself. It would be the most dignified thing for you to do.

                      • Posted By: tired and old @ 05/31/2008 11:15:44 AM

                        NOT VERY NICE !

                        HOLY IS CONFUSED; BUT, DEATH ?

                        IT ALL COMES IN ITS OWN TIME, JUST BE PATIENT.

                        O.J. SIMPSON AND BIN LARDASS BEING THE EXCEPTION, UNFORTUNATELY.

                • Posted By: tired and old @ 05/31/2008 11:05:34 AM

                  I GUESS YOUR NOT A SISSY !

                  TAKES A LOT OF GUTS AND STUPIDITY TO GO TO A GAY BATH HOUSE AND CHANCE GETTING AIDS.

                  ALL FOR BUBBA WEENIES !

        • Posted By: tired and old @ 05/30/2008 6:32:52 PM

          I CONFESS, I HAVE A MENTAL DISORDER.

          I GOT IT IN VIETNAM, I WAS A PRISONER OF WAR. I WAS TORTURED REPEATEDLY.

          I WAS BRAIN WASHED INTO BELIEVING I SHOULD RUN FOR PRESIDENT.

          NOW I AM.

          SORRY ! FOR A MOMENT I THOUGHT I WAS JOHN Mc CAIN.

          ROCKY DOES HAS SOME GOOD POINTS:

          LIBERALS LIKE HILLARY WANT TO MOTHER US, WE ARE HER BABIES ----NOT !

          • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 05/30/2008 6:40:24 PM

            I THOUGHT YOU GOT YOUR DESIRE TO BE PRESIDENT FROM AN AYATOLLAH IN INDONESIA...

            SHOOK SOME CHICKENBONES AND DEDICATED YOUR SOUL TO SATAN

            OBJECTIVE TO CREATE A HELL ON EARTH

            HEAD TAX FOR NON-ISLAMISTS.

            BONDAGE FOR THE REST

            WOMEN AS PROPERTY

            MEN AS SLAVES

            ABOUT RIGHT???

            NOBAMA!!!

            • Posted By: tired and old @ 05/30/2008 7:32:40 PM

              HOLY !

              THE ARC WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER WITH LESS MARKS AFTER " RIGHT ".

              • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 05/30/2008 9:21:44 PM

                You are correct. I was in a hurry. Still pretty good though. My cell phone was ringing. I think it was Rev. Wright, asking for spiritual guidance. Hung up before I could answer. Guess he's still on that Highway To Hell.

                NOBAMA!!!

                • Posted By: tired and old @ 05/31/2008 11:02:20 AM

                  HOLY !

                  THERE IS STILL TIME GET ON YOUR MAGIC CARPET AND CATCH UP TO REV. WRIGHT ( MR. WRONG ), YOU HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO GET TO HELL.

                  ITS NOT GOING ANYWHERE !

            • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 05/30/2008 6:43:21 PM

              Don't quit your day job. So you're a racist, jingoist, and xenophobe? The triple threat. Your poor children must be so proud.

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