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Alaska is home to gigantic untapped natural-gas fields. But can the state and energy industry finally agree to build a pipeline to transport the fuel?

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  • Posted By: desh @ 09/09/2008 2:30:02 PM

    "Comment: Everyone wants to be "cured" of our oil addiction. We want to be able to hunt polar bears on the ice cap, not on bare ground. We don't want to see the beautiful Polynesian islands sinking under the waves. With the population set to double in the next few decades, there is only one question for the radical environmetalists:

    What is the alternative fuel and can we have it by 3:00 P.M. today? If there are none, then start working with the energy companies to find a way to clean up the fuel we need today and look for that special "clean fuel" you are so adament about, tomorrow. Every time you put in a law suit, you stop the "clean fuel" process 10 fold. "

    That clean full is hear like Europe's massive ocean wind farms, Spains sun towers, or plain old wind turbins.
    If everyone stop complain about how ugly they are you would wonder why don't they put one up in mine, i would like that check every month for a thousand or so for sitting on my fat a** and watching the wind blow. if we took even part of the roughly 1 trillion dollars we spend to other counties (mostly the ery one on our terror list for sponcerinf terrist that kill us in iraq) we could wuild massive farms that would power all major city and go from there and be done in less time than it takes to build new drill sites, which takes at best 10 years to start production, ya that sounds like a quick fix?

  • Posted By: delfairchild @ 06/12/2008 12:32:11 PM

    Everyone wants to be "cured" of our oil addiction. We want to be able to hunt polar bears on the ice cap, not on bare ground. We don't want to see the beautiful Polynesian islands sinking under the waves. With the population set to double in the next few decades, there is only one question for the radical environmetalists:

    What is the alternative fuel and can we have it by 3:00 P.M. today? If there are none, then start working with the energy companies to find a way to clean up the fuel we need today and look for that special "clean fuel" you are so adament about, tomorrow. Every time you put in a law suit, you stop the "clean fuel" process 10 fold.

  • Posted By: firstmental @ 06/09/2008 9:33:29 AM

    Its funny - we're a two continent family, and we just bought a new (our third) Chevrolet Aveo (or Kalos, since its sold under its original Daewoo name in Italy). It is LP gas powered, and CHEAP to fill and run! So why only over there?
    And BTW, its our BIG car! The Chevy Matiz which is our small car, would be great in cities here.

  • Posted By: onocoolie @ 06/03/2008 6:24:42 PM

    Denmill,

    You are so far off it's not really worth my time. Read up on Peak oil. Its real! I don't have to convince you becuse we will know within two years. If the worlds production goes down from 85 million barrels a day to say 83

    • Posted By: denmill @ 06/04/2008 2:40:21 AM

      But guess what at this point we have more oil then those damn terrorist nations. We need to drill and use it now while we creating new energy saving technology. Let's be real, creating new energy saving technology will take several decades. Common sense shows that while the price of oil is being controlled by those terrorists, we cannot wait for 30 years and do nothing for the sake of saving wildlife. In Canada right now there is a booming oil industry, and guess what the bears and the trees are still alive. It is about time to put human beings first, not animals and trees. Why don't the leftist media explainthis concept clearly to the masses.

  • Posted By: getzel @ 06/03/2008 11:14:21 AM

    Those green with envy of those who have acquired much green, and who themselves are not green when it comes to con jobs, have set out to exploit the green grain of truth in matters pertaining to greening the environment. Even our Absolut or Mexican friends who come in search of green-go cards recognize that like the greengo, he is in constant pursuit of much green, some for himself and some for those the other side of the non existent border fence, where the grass is not greener. When your green-goes into the thin, carbon taxed, formerly air filled pockets of the not so green green-gos, you will really long for greener pastures in search of the devalued green backs.

    Intelligence analyst: Getzel

    Environ mentalist defined: Individuals that want others to use less energy; almost invariably the Goree truth.

    You can fool some of the people all of the time and those are pretty good odds.

  • Posted By: denmill @ 06/03/2008 11:00:03 AM

    Well the price of gas is $10.00 a gallon in France. That what the environmentalists are counting on. They want the price of gas to increase and pushing their agenda while blaming the oil companies . They want us to stop driving. All that charade about questioning the oil CEOs is politic. They want us to change our lives, walk, use bike and awful public transportation, while they are riding their limos and private jets. It is all about socialism, it is all about controling us, is is all about global health, not US needs. We need to know that the more restriction that they put on the oil companies, the more we will pay at the gas pump. And that is the agenda of these radical tree huggers (reverse psychology ( we will stop using our cars when we cannot afford to buy gas by making us think that all the problems come from the oil companies).. we the people need to take control of our own lives and put drilling in our ballots, so we can vote on it . I heard the crazy Maxime Walters in Congress threaten the oil CEOs that the government will take control of the Oil companies and "socialize the oil industry". What a moron! The government cannot even take care of the postal services nor DMV. Wait for a hold up of the oil industry by Obama and you will see the cost of gas.

  • Posted By: denmill @ 06/03/2008 10:57:19 AM

    Well the price of gas is $10.00 a gallon in France. That what the environmentalists are counting on. They want the price of gas to increase and pushing their agenda while blaming the oil companies . They want us to stop driving. All that charade about questioning the oil CEOs is politic. They want us to change our lives, walk, use bike and awful public transportation, while they are riding their limos and private jets. It is all about socialism, it is all about controling us, is is all about global health, not US needs. We need to know that the the more restriction that they put on the oil companies, the more we will pay at the gas pump. And that is the agenda of these radical tree huggers (reverse psychology ( we will stop using our cars when we cannot aford to buy gas by making us think that all the problems come from the oil companies).. we the people need to take control of our own lives and put drilling in our ballots, so we can vote on it . I heard the crazy Maxime Walters in Congress threaten the oil CEOs that the government will take control of the Oil companies and "socialize the oil industry". What a moron! The government cannot even take care of the postal services nor DMV. Wait for a hold up of the oil industry by Obama and you will see the cost of gas.

  • Posted By: denmill @ 06/03/2008 10:51:13 AM

    Well the price of gas is $10.00 a gallon in France. That what the enviromentalists are counting on. They want the price of gas to increase and blame the oil companies while pushing their agenda. They want us to stop driving. All that charade about questioning the oil CEO is politic. They want us to change our life, walk, use bike and awful public transportation, while they are riding their limo and private jets. It is all about socialism, it is all about controling us, is is all about global health, not US needs. We need to know that the the more restriction that they put on the oil companies, the more we will pay at the gas pump. And that is the main goal of these radical tree huggers (reverse psychology ( we will stop using our cars when we cannot aford to buy gas by making us think that all the problems come from the oil company).. we the people need to take control of our own lives and put drilling in our ballots, so we can vote on it . I heard the crazy Maxime Walters in congress threaten the oil CEO that the government will take controle of the Oil companies and "socialize the oil industry". What a moron! The government cannot even take care of the postal services nor DMV. Wait for a hold up of the oil industry by Obama and you will see the cost of gas.

  • Posted By: denmill @ 06/03/2008 10:31:21 AM

    Comment: The answer is to use the oil that we have in Alaska, Utah and Texas to say the least and built more power plants. It is unreasonable to think that we are not going to pay more for gas when we are dependent on the terrorists to furnish us our oil. They want to control the US Election and put their cousin Barack Hussein Obama, that is the reason that they are doing black market. The enviromentalists like GORE and Obama have their 10,000 Sqft mansions, their private jets and their many big luxurious SUVs. However, they want to dictate our lives. Obama said that the American people must be ashamed of their attitudes and that we must use small uncomfortable cars, live in shacks, and not keeping our houses at 72 degrees in summertime. Hell no!!! This is not the old Soviet Union. France, a country that the American leftist enviromentalists seem to admire more than the US, is using nuclear energy as a source of power, and I don't hear the enviromentalist maniacs complaining. We cannot survive with that crazy mentality of saving the bears rather than saving ourselves. You enviromental maniacs need to take your complaints to China and India who do not give a damn about the evironment. Go to hell with all of your communistic charade. The enviromentalists are the enemies within. Global warming is a Fallacy. There it is!!! Take your preachings to hell!~!!!! In the meantimes we need to drill to be in control of our own life. If Bush wasn't a coward, he would give an excecutive order to start drilling. This is an SOS emergengy.

  • Posted By: Andrea M. @ 06/03/2008 1:15:44 AM

    You're absolutely right, RHO2784610, we have to beware of those dangerous environmentalists. They might just force you to cure yourself of your petroleum addiction. After all, what is a little thing like global warming or species extinction to get in the way of continuing to operate our economy on a resource that will run out in 50 years? Get a clue. Your children and their children will be the ones suffering as a result of your kind of ignorance.

  • Posted By: RHO2784610 @ 06/02/2008 8:26:10 PM

    There is a cultural war going on and it's for all the marbles. The radical environmentalists will shut down our way of life if we let them. They have bought into this sham totally. The problem is that there is no voice of reason coming from that movement. They want to go whole hog. There is also no voice of reason from the democrat party. They are all solidly in step. We need to understand what is at stake and be ready to fight for what we believe and I mean fight for real. The global warming legislation that is before Congress will change our way of life forever. Those of us who can think and reason need to put pressure on our representatives to oppose this bill. This is not a joke anymore, these idiots are for real, and only a rigorous effort will win the day.

    • Posted By: breeze68 @ 06/02/2008 8:46:29 PM

      "There is also no voice of reason from the democrat party" And what voice of reason came out of the Republicans when they had Congress for 12 years, and the presidency for the last eight?

  • Posted By: kladegard @ 06/02/2008 8:14:02 PM

    Andrea M. can preach from her soapbox when she lives a life free of plastic, gasoline, heat for her home, and electricity. She should also consider quitting breathing since the CO2 (hot air) she's emitting is contributing to global warming. These sensationalist rants do nothing to help... instead let's develop resources RESPONSIBLY while continuing to research clean alternate energy sources.

  • Posted By: RHO2784610 @ 06/02/2008 7:53:28 PM

    Yeah Andrea, let's shut down the global economy and send hundreds of millions of people into poverty and starvation. Get a clue.

  • Posted By: CMJNM @ 06/02/2008 7:52:29 PM

    Not all scientists believe that using the oil will hurt our planet. There's enough oil in Alaska, and the massive oil field that they just found in North Dakota, to last us over 50 years. Hopefully, we'll find alternative energy sources way before that. It buys us some time, without me having to decide if I can afford to drive to work today or feed my kids breakfast. If gas prices get to be $5.00+ per gallon, I WILL have to make that decision. At that point, I value my children more than what little harm is being done to the planet.

    • Posted By: denmill @ 06/03/2008 10:50:38 AM

      Well the price of gas is $10.00 a gallon in France. That what the enviromentalists are counting on. They want the price of gas to increase and blame the oil companies while pushing their agenda. They want us to stop driving. All that charade about questioning the oil CEO is politic. They want us to change our life, walk, use bike and awful public transportation, while they are riding their limo and private jets. It is all about socialism, it is all about controling us, is is all about global health, not US needs. We need to know that the the more restriction that they put on the oil companies, the more we will pay at the gas pump. And that is the main goal of these radical tree huggers (reverse psychology ( we will stop using our cars when we cannot aford to buy gas by making us think that all the problems come from the oil company).. we the people need to take control of our own lives and put drilling in our ballots, so we can vote on it . I heard the crazy Maxime Walters in congress threaten the oil CEO that the government will take controle of the Oil companies and "socialize the oil industry". What a moron! The government cannot even take care of the postal services nor DMV. Wait for a hold up of the oil industry by Obama and you will see the cost of gas.

  • Posted By: Andrea M. @ 06/02/2008 6:36:35 PM

    Yes, let's drill for more oil while we destroy our one and only planet, create dangerous climate patterns, and wipe out entire species of animals at unprecedented and unbelievable rates. Insanity. We deserve everything that's coming to us, and it won't be pretty.

    • Posted By: akbosco @ 06/04/2008 3:41:28 AM

      Are we talking about the polar bear that is more populous than ever before but is 'endangered' due to predictions of doom by scientific models that don't match what has already occurred? And the first lawsuit is not to stop the global warming gases that supposedly are causing this ice shrinkage but off-shore drilling that won't be anywhere near the polar bears' ice range by this wonderful modeling?

    • Posted By: akbosco @ 06/04/2008 3:36:24 AM

      Are we speaking of the polar bears that are more populous than ever before but are endangered due to modeling by scientists whose models don't match the past that it is based upon?

  • Posted By: jschmidt2 @ 06/02/2008 6:32:09 PM

    We need all the oil and gas we can get until alternative energy technology is ready for prime time. We need drilling in ANWR, and offshore , windmills, nuclear energy. It will take 10-20 years until we can start reducing oil dependence and we'll need all the oil and gas we can get for the economy to grow. If we wait, we'll have to resort to the 250 year supply of coal which will be worse for the environment.

  • Posted By: jschmidt2 @ 06/02/2008 6:29:23 PM

    While we develop alternative energies, we will still need the current technology of oil and gas. We need to drill for as much and anywhere it is possible, including ANWR and offshore. It will take 10-15 years to get the alternative energies including nuclear developed. Our economy cannot stand a shortage of fossil fuels otherwise we would have to resort to the 250 year supply of coal we already have which would be worse for the environment.

  • Posted By: RI Mom @ 06/02/2008 6:20:44 PM

    Wouldn't it be cheaper, more prudent and beneficial if we were to repair our contry's infrastructure with a serious overhaul of mass transit and a demand for more efficient smaller cars?

  • Posted By: Saltydog_0 @ 06/02/2008 4:59:40 PM

    $26 billion for a new pipeline?!!! That's almost 10 times this year's budget for alternative energy research! ($2.7 billion)

    Where are our priorities when we outspend new technology vs. the old destructive status quo by more than 9 to 1? (Actually we outspend by a much higher ratio. The $26 billion for this pipeline is just a drop in the bucket.)

    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. America; The home of the free, the brave and the certifiably insane..

  • Posted By: Saltydog_0 @ 06/02/2008 4:33:00 PM

    Good God! We Americans are so unbeleivably stupid!

    We're running out of fossil fuels. Even if we weren't our continued use of fossil fuels is destroying our environment. The answer is not to find more oil and gas!!!

    We're sick. Truly, undeniably, hopelessly addicted. There is no cost too high; no reality we can't ignore; nothing important enough to get us to pull our heads out of the sand. Our prognosis is not good.

    "C'mon Alaska. Please baby. I need it reeeeaaall bad. Can't you just give me a little bit?. C'mon baby. I'll suck your. . . . . . ."

    • Posted By: denmill @ 06/03/2008 10:30:10 AM

      The answer is to use the oil that we have in Alaska, Utah and Texas to say the least and built more power plants. It is unreasonable to think that we are not going to pay more for gas when we are dependent on the terrorists to furnish us our oil. They want to control the US Election and put their cousin Barack Hussein Obama, that is the reason that they are doing black market. The enviromentalists like GORE and Obama have their 10,000 Sqft mansions, their private jets and their many big luxurious SUVs. However, they want to dictate our lives. Obama said that the American people must be ashamed of their attitudes and that we must use small uncomfortable cars, live in shacks, and not keeping our houses at 72 degrees in summertime. Hell no!!! This is not the old Soviet Union. France, a country that the American leftist enviromentalists seem to admire more than the US, is using nuclear energy as a source of power, and I don't hear the enviromentalist maniacs complaining. We cannot survive with that crazy mentality of saving the bears rather than saving ourselves. You enviromental maniacs need to take your complaints to China and India who do not give a damn about the evironment. Go to hell with all of your communistic charade. The enviromentalists are the enemies within. Global warming is a Fallacy. There it is!!! Take your preachings to hell!~!!!! In the meantimes we need to drill to be in control of our own life. If Bush wasn't a coward, he would give an excecutive order to start drilling. This is an SOS emergengy.

  • Posted By: johncoyne @ 06/02/2008 3:32:40 PM

    Highly informative article on a badly underreported aspect of our energy problems. Let's have more from Alaska.

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