The Coming Energy Wars

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  • Posted By: aXicano @ 06/01/2008 11:49:12 PM

    As an American my biggest complaint is not so much the price of gas, but the total lack of a mass transit system in almost all of our cities. Where I live a bus ride to work across town would take me almost 2 hours to get to work, and I would have to make two transfers. Driving only takes me 30 minutes, but that is not the point. I find this highly unacceptable and blame the voters that have always rejected the bonds for building a working transit system. Everyone complains about the cost and wants to have roads expanded even though the cost would be considerably less of an investment in a mass transit system than in road expansion. I would have have no problem leaving my car at home to ride a mass transit system that would get me to work within 45 minutes instead of the current two hours that it takes now. I rode the bus in college and never complained one bit as it was cheap and took me from point A to point B.

    • Posted By: Williejo0830 @ 06/02/2008 12:06:18 AM

      Well, mass transit would be a good idea if it weren't designed for a singular class of people and subsidized by another. The people with the wealth pay for have nots. I think they used to call that communism. .....

      • Posted By: Jsacal @ 06/02/2008 12:59:10 AM

        And you came out of pocket by how much to pay for that pretty miles long billion dollar ribbon of concrete that you're driving your bimmer to work on each day! spose that's communism to huh?

  • Posted By: hottxboi16 @ 06/01/2008 1:37:46 PM

    Bah some of you people make my blood boil....ignorant claims like liberals this and liberals that blah blah blah

    Clearly you have done no research on ANWR...there is hardly enough oil there to sustain the united states for a few years at MAX....and as you should be already to see with reasoning...although thats something you clearly dont use.....OIL DEPENDENCE or depedence on any non renewable resource is NOT the answer...

    and how will solar panels and wind turbines and such fill up your gas tank? They won't obviously, you need to research electric cars and the possibility of a vehicle to grid system.

    Please don't open you mouth posting ignorant nonsense when you won't even take the time to think of anything but you and your immediate situation at the gas pump.

    • Posted By: WRAY EDWARDS @ 06/02/2008 12:57:06 AM

      OMG...another person who is clueless about the state of electric car technology. The research, at least to the threshold of viability v internal combustion, is complete and tens of thousands of these vehicles will roll off the production lines in the next 24 months,and hundreds of thousands by 2012. After December 2012, if the Mayans are right, the issue will be moot.

  • Posted By: ankfranglin @ 06/02/2008 12:56:55 AM

    Wake Up America! The current problem with $4 gas could have been totally averted if we hadn't forced our Nation into being dependent on foreign oil. Keeping Oil Co's from building refineries and placing so many restrictions on them were the goals of the Greenies of the world. There is NO GLOBAL Warming crisis. 3.5 million years ago the CO2 levels in the Earth were 4 times higher than they are today. I don't recall learning in my History classes very much about factories and Mankinds carbon threat back then! What do you call what people exhale? Are they going to start taxing me to breath? The so called GW experts think they can predict their (politically driven) catastrophic demise of our planet and put the blame on mankinds hands. We can't predict the weather from one day to the next with 100% accuracy, so how can we predict GW'ing in 10 years? Of course all of this will be President Bush's fault. He caused GW'ing, he's the cause oil may hit $200/barrel ... if the Dem's are so concerned about everything they claim - why don't they give us Presidential Candidates that can fix these WORLD CRISIS. You know, the kind that invent the Internet, fly into war zones in body armour under hostile enemy fire - you know, real heroes. Folks, we've got to get these issues right. What we need are generations like past American Generations who faced adversity in the face and made this country great-not the Woodstock era. Today it's too easy for one to stay home and let the govm't take care of them. If you want that, go live in a Communist country - hope you like Grey. We need the likes of an Albert Einstein, Bill Gates, Henry Ford to step up and solve our (world) issues. Some MIT grad or some brilliant non-college indoctrinated genius that can move the hydrogen option forward. Alternative fuels are the answer but using our food supply, come on really. Bamboo, Sugar, Grass possibly. Open your eyes people and see what's happening to our country. We are loosing our identity as American's. The U.N. needs to go to some other country like France or somewhere in Africa. They are worthless, hate and blame the U.S. for everything bad in this world and have nothing more on their agenda than a One-World Government. Watch out people ... this election is more important than you could ever imagine. And Young American's - think before you vote. Read up on your history, before you cast that vote for the 1st time ... think about the consequences of your actions. America does need change - but change that allows us to become American's again. Champions of Freedom, Keepers of Peace, Helping mankind in time of need. Not the meaningless change from pseudo democrats who promise change. Change is not tieing the hands of Oil Companies, not a Windfall Tax, not socialized medicine (the name alone should tell you something), taking Oil Co. profits (Venuezula 2-step). I'm tired and said enough Wake up America.

  • Posted By: Randyh @ 06/02/2008 12:54:35 AM

    The real reason that prices are out of our (US) control is that we have not built a new refinery in over 30 years. We are also not allowing US oil companies expand drilling for oil within the US. The demand for oil and gas has increased significantly over that time. Our politicians seem to have no problem with us being taxed for those things, they will not take action needed that may help bring down gas and oil prices. They could do this by eliminating those taxes, immediately building new refineries, immediately allowing more drilling for oil, while at the same time investing in our future by investing more in technoligical research to make more energy efficient vehicles and etc. This would help us to become less energy dependent on foreign oil companies and gradually get us to a point where we use less oil due to technological advances. What exactly have our politicians been doing over the last several years ? Coming up with a plan to help get us out of this mess does not really seem that difficult, why are none of them making this kind of recommendations? They say that eliminating those taxes will not make a difference (where is that money going anyway ??) They continue to point the finger at big oil companies despite their lack of a plan. Our Members of Congress and Senators need to get busy taking care of the peoples, and if they can't do that, we need to elect new members who will.

  • Posted By: Randyh @ 06/02/2008 12:54:20 AM

    The real reason that prices are out of our (US) control is that we have not built a new refinery in over 30 years. We are also not allowing US oil companies expand drilling for oil within the US. The demand for oil and gas has increased significantly over that time. Our politicians seem to have no problem with us being taxed for those things, they will not take action needed that may help bring down gas and oil prices. They could do this by eliminating those taxes, immediately building new refineries, immediately allowing more drilling for oil, while at the same time investing in our future by investing more in technoligical research to make more energy efficient vehicles and etc. This would help us to become less energy dependent on foreign oil companies and gradually get us to a point where we use less oil due to technological advances. What exactly have our politicians been doing over the last several years ? Coming up with a plan to help get us out of this mess does not really seem that difficult, why are none of them making this kind of recommendations? They say that eliminating those taxes will not make a difference (where is that money going anyway ??) They continue to point the finger at big oil companies despite their lack of a plan. Our Members of Congress and Senators need to get busy taking care of the peoples, and if they can't do that, we need to elect new members who will.

  • Posted By: vinstewart @ 06/02/2008 12:54:09 AM

    Wake up America, there is not a shortage of oil. The number one problem in the US is the lack of REFINERIES to process the oil into gasoline, diesel and other fuel oils. With the billions of dollars in profits the oil companies are making every month, why would they build more? Our so called representatives in the House and Senate along with Bush, Clinton, McCain and Obama all know this is one of the reasons we're paying $4 for a gallon of gas. We can drill and find oil in each of our backyards but until it's refined, you can't do anything with it.

  • Posted By: nells @ 06/02/2008 12:23:40 AM

    wow, we blame everyone else for our current energy problems (dems, conservatives, big oil Ect) How about putting the blame where it truely lies, on ourselves. We are a wasteful nation that refuses to change our lifestyles to abapt to this new energy era. If you haven't embraced Hybrid technology, energy conservation in your home, recycling, carpooling, mass transit, buying local produce and products, organic, supporting green business ECT then stop your bitchin about fuel prices. If we all put our minds to it and embraced conservation to its fullest, we could put a huge dent in our energy usage and buy us the time needed to get alternative energy solutions up and running. The solution to our energy problems is not trying to find more oil but to simply use less.

    • Posted By: Savecito1966 @ 06/02/2008 12:54:00 AM

      FINALLY!!! Someone who finally agrees that we are a wasteful nation, we chose not to change, we're now paying the price....

  • Posted By: Shirttailcreek @ 06/02/2008 12:53:01 AM

    Oil prices will go up, the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer. The 10% of the population will have more and the 90% of the population will have less. It's good to have a revolution now and then.

  • Posted By: b.romberg @ 06/02/2008 12:51:14 AM

    the way i see it is our president isn't breaking a sweat by bringing down the oil prices, he's about to leave office and he needs that extra money for retirement, somebody is sleeping with the arabs. if china and india are paying these outrageous prices than let them get screwed without being kissed first, the american people are not idiots, but washington is leading us like lambs to the slaughter and it's our decision when enough is enough, we need to open our eyes and be aware of whats happening around us, we are working class just making the oil people richer while theyr'e laughing at us all the way to the bank.

  • Posted By: greatmogul @ 06/02/2008 12:49:41 AM

    We in the western world have enjoyed cheap food, clothing, women's rights, equallity for all and democracy. Democracy is one the best things in the world today but with many former communist or socialist countries moving towards full or partial democracy, the cost of upholding these rights increases the financial burden on the rest of the world.
    25 years ago china would have never disclosed the number dead from the earthquake that hit that country. They are one of many large and there are also small countries trying to develop their internal infrastructure to that of the British and American ways.

  • Posted By: charles11 @ 06/02/2008 12:48:08 AM

    I guess it's true! What goes up comes down. Maybe it's our turn.

  • Posted By: DrMan @ 06/01/2008 8:42:00 PM

    I am so tired of the econuts screaming more wind and solar power. Don't you morons think that if it was viable everybody would be using it? And don't give me this crap about the oil companies controlling everything. The only reason for less usage of oil is the high price. The majority of us couldn't care less about the spotted owl or polar bears. We've got the oil why don't we get it and use it. I don't care how little there is, it's better than nothing.

    • Posted By: seanw3 @ 06/01/2008 11:13:26 PM

      agreed.. but we cant drive a species into extension so you could have cheaper gas...look at the crises that are going on with honeybees now. If they die and they are mysteriously dying out right now, we all go, because the little bee is responsible for everything growing.. well most everything on the planet that is.

      • Posted By: WRAY EDWARDS @ 06/02/2008 12:47:21 AM

        Finally, an intelligent comment from seanw3...except for the species thing...the caribou are breeding so fast because of the heat from the trans Alaska pipeline, they don't know what to do with them all. As for the polar bears, their populations in most of their habitats are at all-time highs causing some of them to travel long distances to find food. That's why they're finding them so strung out.

  • Posted By: surprize @ 06/02/2008 12:45:05 AM

    I have lived and worked in Japan and Mexico. The Japanese developed great cars over a period of time. Our auto industry has also developed very desirable cars especially in the past five years. Japan copied our auto industry and made improvements. I was there and I saw it. Next, I do have a big issue with the enviromental movement they seem to have so much confidence and influence because people are afraid to stand up to them. We all want clean air and clean water and they don't own this country and they can be challenged. We have too many lawsuits whenever any kind of energy is developed. I was just in Wyoming and South Dakota and people in individual states should have power to make their own decisions about drilling for oil and gas and not San Fransico lobbyist or Portland Oregon enviromentalist. We have ceded too much power to people who are not capable of working to solve a problem.

  • Posted By: andystractors @ 06/02/2008 12:44:56 AM

    Fuel cell is good technology, so is stirling technology, if developed. The automotive industry touts hybrids as new technology, but R.G. LeTourneau was using that 50 years ago on earthmoving equipment. Much old technology can be improved to suit our needs, and others developed. I doubt we can do away with trucks, too much tax revenue to maintain and build roads, but there should be efficient propulsion systems designed for them, it has to do with money and engineering. In many countries the railroad systems are amazing, but here in the US they are a disgrace, still yet, I really don't want to wait at a railroad crossing for the conductor to make a delivery at the local 7-11!

  • Posted By: Tee'dOFF @ 06/02/2008 12:42:29 AM

    Oh PLEASE!!!!!!!! This is all about the BIG BOYS Portfolios, and Prez. Bush and all the Bush family making a flippin killing in Oil now. There is NO SHORTAGE. We have 130 yrs of oil in Alaska, 25 in LA, and more in other places I am sure. It is AL about makin a buck for the Oil Boys/BIG FAT BOYS. It is shameful, and a means to the end of our world as we know it. In the Bible-in the book of Revelations, it speaks about this in parable. It's HERE. Get ready.

  • Posted By: ruger44 @ 06/02/2008 12:30:15 AM

    I have a tought, why don't we all go back to using candles,sleeping at a campfire and hunting for our food with an old style bow and arrow or better yet how about using clubs and stones. To h*ll with civilized living. Maybe we all can survive off of tree bark and grass.

    • Posted By: underdog @ 06/02/2008 12:40:16 AM

      Can't have campfires anymore, to easy to start a forest fire, and PETA along with most of SanFransisco would have something to say about killing, let alone eating animals. Sorry. The most you can do today is have a nice salad and a glass of mineral water. Make sure the water does not come from a plastic bottle.

  • Posted By: soulrider1979 @ 06/02/2008 12:38:57 AM

    Dot get scared, get tough and get smart. Were there is a will there is a way. The anwer is the the sun. Bottom Line. Cant take that away and cant use it up. Infintite resource.

    Peace-

  • Posted By: samacox1 @ 06/02/2008 12:37:09 AM

    The only way to secure the American dollar, while at the same time balancing the national budget, nationalizing health care, strengthening social security,improving infrastructure while eliminating the filing requirement for all taxpayers making less than 500K on an inflation adjusted basis, is to declare a national emergency and put a $4 (at least) additional federal tax on gas suld at the pump...(the stick) while making the income tax more palatable and providing important additional needed services to our people.

  • Posted By: greatmogul @ 06/02/2008 12:35:11 AM

    Brazil one of the world's largest consuler of oil started way back in the oil crisis of the 1970's to consume less oil and go green. 29 years later they announce that they have gone green. Yeah right, who are we trying to fool. The greater percentage of people working the land tend to have their generations move away from that life to one they think better one which is fast paced, gozzles energy and uses the limited agriculturqal land. This has been 20 years in the making with all the technological advancements of the 21st century.

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