The Same People

You missed the point of gay marriage. The point is not a few rights that can be easily reproduced with a visit to an attorney or even "civil union" titles. The point of gay marriage is social acceptance. Homosexuals want to be able to discuss their relationship in the same manner as heterosexual marriages. They want to be invited to the same barbecues and potlucks. The problem is that calling it a marriage actually means calling it a 'marriage'. Conversations will refer to Joe being 'married' to Jack. This is not a magic potion solution that will all of a sudden result in mass social acceptance. There are some sectors of society that have valid, moral objections to homosexual marriage that will not change regardless of the law. I will personally vote against homosexual marriage but honestly, I don't care what you call it. It will never have the same meaning and social standing that a marriage between a husband and wife has. The next step in the battle scares me. When this is over, the next battle (now being seen in Europe) is whether churches and parachurch organizations can discriminate based on homosexuality. I am deathly afraid that my church might one day be forced to hire a homosexual preacher because of anti-discrimination laws. That is when I will care.

So-called "gay" marriage is an oxymoron - a contradiction in terms. No legal fiction or fiat Court will make it otherwise. The proper, not corrupted definition of marriage, is the complimentary union of male and female, husband and wife, mother and father and the sanctification of human sexuality to a higher and more dignified purpose... "life." No human being was ever born to bugger or be buggered. Grow up people. The "gay" rights movement has not only debased human sexuality, but perverted history and science, the Justice system and the education of children, but the entire political process of a once great nation. The "gay" rights movement is nothing more than a sex cult which has co-opted and exploits the language and symbols of normal society.

Marriage is an insitutional from God who has established that homosexuality is and abonmination to Him. People of faith and not of faith need to be concerned because God is going to surely send judgment to avenge His righteousness. Each state is going to be judged. look at the weather pattern, each year is going to get worse for a nation who God had Blessed and a nation who tuned their backs on God to partake in evil. It is appropiate to love all people no matter what and who they are but we do not have to love the sin and in this case, homesexually is a sin against God and will be punished. To marry is perversion.

Anna, this is beautifully written. I can only hope that the discrimination will be over sooner rather than later. I live in a south-western european country where gay marriage isn't legal YET. I'm hetero and married last year. If comes to my mind often that it is utterly unfair that a gay couple, as much in love as I am with my husband, cannot have their marriage ceremony, exchange vows before family and friends, adopt children, etc. Love, as you point out, isn't that abundant in the world that we should be picky about the form it presents itself. Unfortunately I live in an area where the Catholic Church still has a lot of influency in people's morals and views and I guess it will take a while before we catch up with the more modern, open minded people from the nortthen countries in Europe.

Don't kid yourself. This isn't just society "making a little room" for gay marriage. This is judges forcing people who have deeply principled disagreements with homosexual behavior to knuckle under and affirm homosexuality as a good lifestyle. In schools, children will NOT be able to learn anything other than the moral equivalence of homosexuality and homosexual marriage. Any other view is outlawed. Educational institutions, including religious ones, will NOT be able to deny employment to someone whose marriage is legally sanctioned by the state--nor will they be able to get state funds if they do. This is gestapo-like enforcement of one particular viewpoint of homosexuality pressed into every nook and cranny of society. It is an attempt fo marginalize "dissenters." This has been explicitly stated by homosexual activist leaders. It's not "live and let live." It's "affirm our lifestyle or shut up."

Not that simple. Once you break the heterosexual limits given by nature and God, logic and human appetites will take you further. If "love" is the only criterion, why not legalize polyagmy? Group marriage? Consensual incest? Marriage to consenting minors? If you think this is far-fetched, consider their are civil rights lawyers for all the above groups working hard and using gay marriage as their template.

And why stop there? Why can't I marry my same-sex friend even if we are homosexual? We just want the benefits.

The legal and sociological nightmare will cause financial complications, and the emotional and spiritual damage will be enormous.

California jurisprudence is a well known joke. More decisions from the 9th circuit are overturned by the Supreme Court than from any other Disctrict Court. Judges in CA apparently think they are the ultimate and final authority. Fortunately for the people, the PEOPLE are the final authority. The solution to California's recent case of judicial travesty is the proposed constitutional amendment to put into law what people for centuries have known in the country: Marriage is between a man and a woman. No amount of social engineering can make it otherwise, except by intellectual slight-of-hand. The Roman were notortious for the lascivious and amoral lifestyle. Do we REALLY want to use Rome as a model for America? Rome fell from internal corruption and immorality, not from external conquest. Sounds like California is headed in the same direction.

I could care less if gay people want to be together. It should be a states' rights issue. The people voted and said they didn't want gay marriage in CA. Activist judges overturned the will of the majority.....that's MY problem with it...

Although I am a registered Democrat, I am a straight-up Goldwater Republican on this issue. The American Government has no business defining relationships, nor does it have a place in any citizen's bedroom.

"an ordinary life" that's the point is it not? I mean, that's what we are against. Should it be considered ordinary so much that it is accepted at the new "norm". Should our young be allowed to think that it is normal to experiment with such a lifestyle and possibly stay in "just a stage"? What about when our society accepts and the norm is intrigue and eros in the workplace? Don't think it can't happen? Just check out what happened in the Minneapolis Fire Department. What happens in the armed services when jilted love finds it way on the battlefield? Not to mention the business world. This is where society's fabric stretches and tears. We can barely survive an immoral hetero society let alone another "basic human right"

We're all missing the point- Government shouldn't have any say about any marriage. Why did we give govt. the right to SELL us licenses? This should be private, between two people without govt. interference.