The Same People

THANK YOU, Ms. Quindlen! We're a gay couple--a schoolteacher and a bureaucrat--blessed with a challenging, kind, affectionate child who has autism. Our experience with our son has shown us that love does indeed win out. Perhaps we're seeing the little miracles that love can work in changing hearts and minds on a societal level now. As someone who believes such miracles are signs of God's love for all people, let us say that "God is good--ALL THE TIME!" Peace, noahsdad

THANK YOU, Ms. Quindlen! We're a gay couple--a bureaucrat and a schoolteacher--doing our best to raise a wonderful child who has autism. Our family deserves the same respect as other families. You're right than love wins out--our experience with our son is that love can indeed work miracles. Perhaps we're seeing similar miracles--the changing of hearts and minds--on a societal level now. As someone who believes that such miracles are evidence of God's love for all people, let me say that "God is good--ALL THE TIME!" Peace, noahsdad

The CA Supreme Court properly defines marriage as a legal term that is often confused with the Sacrament of Marriage religious term. The judges granted equal civil rights to gay couples that is long overdue, no matter what religious fanatics may say

eLIEzer,
You demonstrate a clear lack of understanding of the basics of addictive disorders. Addictive disorders get in the way of family, friendships, being able to function. Addictions keep you from being able to work, to eat healthy, to take care of yourself and your loved ones. Homosexuality does not prevent any of those things.
The second thing you don't understand is that an addiction is something mild or normal taken too far. If there are alcoholics (out of control) and people who merely enjoy the occassional drink (in control) then there must be a level of gayness that is well within control. Something only becomes addictive once the person can no longer moderate their use.
The third thing is that many, if not most gay people recall knowing they were gay long before they ever had sex. People arrive at addiction through use. There has never been the case of someone who knew they were an addict prior to ever having exposure to the substance in question. There are no smokers who, at age three, realized they were "different". No one hangs around with their friends and realizes "my goodness, I think I might be a heroin addict!" without ever having done the drug.
Finally you are wrong in asserting that gays account for most molestation cases. This is patently false. When a man sexually assaults a boy, that does not make him gay, that makes him a child molestor. Gay people have healthy relationships with adults, not children. Pedophiles, on the other hand, either are fixated on children and have no interest in a sexual relationship with adults of either gender OR claim vehemently to be straight and have girlfriends, wives, and sometimes children of their own to prove it. Even IF you suggested that men who attack boys must be homosexual, then the facts show these are not out, proud, homosexuals who have relationships with adults. Which would mean it is the CLOSETED homosexuals, are the ones you should worry about, not the Out Proud Gays such as myself.

eLIEzer,
You demonstrate a clear lack of understanding of the basics of addictive disorders. Addictive disorders get in the way of family, friendships, being able to function. Addictions keep you from being able to work, to eat healthy, to take care of yourself and your loved ones. Homosexuality does not prevent any of those things.
The second thing you don't understand is that an addiction is something mild or normal taken too far. If there are alcoholics (out of control) and people who merely enjoy the occassional drink (in control) then there must be a level of gayness that is well within control. Something only becomes addictive once the person can no longer moderate their use.
The third thing is that many, if not most gay people recall knowing they were gay long before they ever had sex. People arrive at addiction through use. There has never been the case of someone who knew they were an addict prior to ever having exposure to the substance in question. There are no smokers who, at age three, realized they were "different". No one hangs around with their friends and realizes "my goodness, I think I might be a heroin addict!" without ever having done the drug.
Finally you are wrong in asserting that gays account for most molestation cases. This is patently false. When a man sexually assaults a boy, that does not make him gay, that makes him a child molestor. Gay people have healthy relationships with adults, not children. Pedophiles, on the other hand, either are fixated on children and have no interest in a sexual relationship with adults of either gender OR claim vehemently to be straight and have girlfriends, wives, and sometimes children of their own to prove it. Even IF you suggested that men who attack boys must be homosexual, then the facts show these are not out, proud, homosexuals who have relationships with adults. Which would mean it is the CLOSETED homosexuals, are the ones you should worry about, not the Out Proud Gays such as myself.

The homo-erotic dysfunction is a compulsive addictive disorder, more addictive the longer it is practiced & to the degree environment is supportive. It takes mettle & insight to overcome personal limitations, qualities seldom mentioned. Just as there is AA, sexual addicts anonymous groups inculcating healthy psycho-sexual dispositions are needed. Over time, the fictional homo-erotic persona can be overcome. The environment must be supportive. The greatest challenge??? The predatory & skewed disposition of our places of learning & the tendency to place monetary values on every sphere of human existence. Once again, victimology is a "science" of the regressive left & it's fellow travelers, who exploit & take advantage. Weaknesses are pragmatically used for political goals. Social engineering is... social engineering, & it's difficult for anyone in today's world to rise to positions of authority unless they ARE corruptible & CAN be manipulated. Sexual indiscretions are frequently playmates to blackmail. When it comes to homosexuality, the word for adult sexual induction of youth, is pederasty, not the catch-all, pedophilia. Proportionately, "gays" molest far more youth than those referred to as the "heterosexual" community. According to "gay" speak, one IS a pederast, & thus has no choice but to seek out sex with young boys. As a society of human beings ostensibly constituted to uplift & guard human dignity, especially the youth among us, we have serious issue. The sexualization of Kulture, & the Kinsey "everything and everyone," he construed as a legitimate sexual "outlet," does not imply a positive prognosis. Far from it, the major places of learning, the American Bar & Legal Associations, & policy shaping bodies like the APA & "Justice," have all been infected with Kinsey's virus to varying degrees. Kinsey engineered the scientific pretext for the "solution," which for Rockefeller was the dissolution of the American Constitutional Republic based upon moral principle apllied in common law & the unalienable rights to life, liberty and property. These guarantees are anathema to the interests of the CORPORATE COLLECTIVE, operating under commercial or Admiralty law. Under such color-of-law, human beings are cast AS brainless animals & "sexual outlets." The scope of this project is far greater than so-called "gay" rights. It reaches to the very core & foundations of the New World. Today were are assaulted by an appendage of the Old World... a New World Odor. The two pillars of human civilization are, honest weights & measures & a moral & healthy sexual constitution. For Americans to survive with their rights to life, liberty & property in tact - for America to be preserved as a bastion OF these rights, Americans must forgo entertainment (brainwashing) & convenience -

Thank you Anna Quindlen for your insightful article, and thank you California, for helping a wrong to finally be righted. All people are equal and all people deserve the same basic rights as everyone else. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. What a concept!
For all of you out there that have a problem with gay marriage, that is what it is, your problem. What gives you the right to decide what is right for others? As the Martin Luther King Jr. said, and preached: "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere." Equality for all. Amen.