Is Wal-Mart Too Liberal?

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  • Posted By: 444rob @ 06/09/2008 11:16:53 PM

    (PART II OF MY COMMENT)

    In terms of governmental economics, I agree with Redneckbaron that the economic stimulus plan is a horrible idea (actually, a lot of Bush's ideas aren't within a conservative perspective: increased environmental action, social benefits, higher spending, more taxation, etc. Why start a war when you can just bomb the capital? Ironically, "...the more the Left demands.") China could be wiped out if there were jobs in the United States. How do we get jobs at home? Instead of governmental intervention, why don't we look at the effects of our current policies to determine what epitomizes the "environment" for a corporation to thrive? Lower the minimum wage, so there will be less outsourcing to sweat-shopped communists, and lessen corporate regulation that deters business. Supply-side economics will eventually get money to the workers. Don't like the pay? Work elsewhere. Wal-Mart will offer more money if it has a shoratge of employees- the "supply and demand" of labor.

    Kellya999, wow. All I can say is, wow. Why dont we denounce ALL of conservatism because of the war, which has substantially less casualties than almost every war (unless you count Grenada). Wake the freak up, Kellya999, it is a volunteer army, there is no draft, enlistment is optional, the only reason some are dying is because we do not wish to financially support defense mechansims, such as armor, etc. on the homefront. For what? I guess the freedom of thousands from Islamofacists, the stability of countries with WMD's (Iraq had a reputation by the way; it used chem warfare vs. the Kurds in the Gulf war) and the overall improvement of life for those subject to human rights violations isn't worth allowing noble men and women to sacrifice their lives for a greater cause, not just as citizens to the United States, but the World. Who's the Xenophobe now? Why don't we just cut funding for this HUGE burden upon our wallets, rather than the 55% and increasing amount of money with the programs Medicare and Medicaide, both deemed highly inefficient, which will increase six-fold with Barack Obama (It seems that what I call the "proletariat of the Democratic Party" is focusing on him due to race and/or discourse skills. Hitler anyone?).

    • Posted By: vmt429 @ 06/10/2008 1:28:08 AM

      Are you seriously comparing Obama to Hitler?
      I'll let that question slide as rhetorical- I'm not sure I want to read your response.
      Exaggeration may get one's point across, but over exaggeration in such cases as your above statements just reflects poorly back on you. Stop digging your own grave before it gets to deep for you to climb back out of. I'm not trying to be rude, I'm trying to be helpful- honestly.

    • Posted By: dldheel @ 06/09/2008 11:35:07 PM

      Did you say "lower the minimum wage"? Enough said. Please shut up fellow, everybody knows you're an idiot. The poverty levels would swell and crime would increase.

  • Posted By: cubby @ 06/10/2008 1:22:02 AM

    Boy do i wish i worked at the Wal-Mart you do thats La La land or total bullshit You are constantly reminded your family or your job which is more important You must sit on the board on directors to have good insurance just look at the proxy vote anything that has to do makeing things better for the employees you are ask to vote against but lets give ouselves the cap of 20 million for bonuses a year and the insurance geesh where did you get your research for this article from Wal-Mart themselves i bet i can tell you lots more and back it up jsu noone has the monye to fight Wal-Matr and they will tell you so

  • Posted By: mavrick04 @ 06/10/2008 1:19:12 AM

    Well I have a couple of comments to make, One I really don???t care if your gay, straight black purple or pink one thing that does irritate me is you shoving what you do down my throat.. You want to be gay be it don???t push it off on me. You are infringing on my rights to not have you push your crap on me. You want to be left wing right wing middle of the road fine don???t push it off on me. You want to be a christen, Muslim, Jew, pagan, I don???t care keep it to your self. So sick and tired of the me generation give to me I want welfare free this free that free I deserve is because I was born bunch of lazy people.
    As far as Wal-mart is concerned I work there it???s my second job they do treat the employees like crap. I was hired on full time to remodel the store then got brought on to unload the trucks and take it to the floor. I was hired in full time for two weeks then made part time shortly after that all of us where. Why so the manager could get his fat bonus check. Wal-mart has a diversity program never mind if you can do the job or speak English just so as long as you are a body you got a job I work at a store and there are people there that can???t speak English are not very well educated running departments.
    You have employees that are clueless to what half the stuff they sell or offer to the customer is or is for.
    Wally world is traveling down the same road as radio Shack and circuit city forgetting who they came to the dance with in the end its going to cost them big time I have no qualms about speaking out to the media about how Wal-mart forces you to clock out so you get no over time they circumvent the labor laws and feed you the open door policy which is a crock.
    Wal-Mart plays a good lie game they care less about you and the comuinty they are greedy and gobble up everything in site.
    Wal Mart has ruined customer service and their we take anything back policy is ridicules people use Wal Mart as a rental store and expect all other stores to follow along.
    Wal-mart has help to lazafi America into sheep.
    My two cents take it or leave it

  • Posted By: mavrick04 @ 06/10/2008 1:16:58 AM

    Well I have a couple of comments to make, One I really don???t care if your gay, straight black purple or pink one thing that does irritate me is you shoving what you do down my throat.. You want to be gay be it don???t push it off on me. You are infringing on my rights to not have you push your crap on me. You want to be left wing right wing middle of the road fine don???t push it off on me. You want to be a christen, Muslim, Jew, pagan, I don???t care keep it to your self. So sick and tired of the me generation give to me I want welfare free this free that free I deserve is because I was born bunch of lazy people.
    As far as Wal-mart is concerned I work there it???s my second job they do treat the employees like crap. I was hired on full time to remodel the store then got brought on to unload the trucks and take it to the floor. I was hired in full time for two weeks then made part time shortly after that all of us where. Why so the manager could get his fat bonus check. Wal-mart has a diversity program never mind if you can do the job or speak English just so as long as you are a body you got a job I work at a store and there are people there that can???t speak English are not very well educated running departments.
    You have employees that are clueless to what half the stuff they sell or offer to the customer is or is for.
    Wally world is traveling down the same road as radio Shack and circuit city forgetting who they came to the dance with in the end its going to cost them big time I have no qualms about speaking out to the media about how Wal-mart forces you to clock out so you get no over time they circumvent the labor laws and feed you the open door policy which is a crock.
    Wal-Mart plays a good lie game they care less about you and the comuinty they are greedy and gobble up everything in site.
    Wal Mart has ruined customer service and their we take anything back policy is ridicules people use Wal Mart as a rental store and expect all other stores to follow along.
    Wal-mart has help to lazafi America into sheep.
    My two cents take it or leave it

  • Posted By: cubby @ 06/10/2008 1:15:34 AM

    where the hell did you do your research on this article i work for Wa-Mart and nothing you say the CEOs say is true Family friendly ny butt youll get fired or ask your job or your kids are more important to you and would you like to see the proxy vote at the bonuses the big wheels get and how they want you vote against any thing that would give or help the employee

  • Posted By: DaveSom @ 06/10/2008 12:04:36 AM

    Long Live to US in Iraq War!
    Long Live to High Oil Prices!
    Long Live to US Recession!
    Long Live to Bankrupted Social Security! VOTE FOR MCCAIN!!!!!!!


    • Posted By: 444rob @ 06/10/2008 12:24:02 AM

      Long Live Islamo-fascist power and human rights violations!
      Long Live overtaxation, outsourcing, and American socialism!
      Long Live Democratic elitism!
      Vote for Barack Obama!!!

      • Posted By: vmt429 @ 06/10/2008 1:13:07 AM

        You shouldn't take things so personally. It's obvious that this person is either advertising or just trying to annoy people who are up to taking the bait. You really aren't helping your cause through such retaliation.

  • Posted By: libra @ 06/09/2008 8:08:52 PM

    I have worked for Wal-Mart for over three years and when first hired I guess you could say that I was wearing rose-colored glasses. Everyone was so excited when Wal-Mart came to our small southern town. We had only had K-Mart to shop at and everyone was disgusted with them. Now it seems that everyone is just as disgusted with "Wal-Mart". It's not uncommon for there to be an article in our local paper at least once a month about Wal-Mart, all derogatory comments. The sad thing is that most of the coments that the consumers are making are true. Wal-Mart has a double standard in place, one for the minority and another for the majoirty. They don't care about their employees and treat them horribly. Perhaps if every once a while the employees were told "thanks for the great job you're doing" there wouldn't be suc h hard feelings. And if they treated everyone equaly instead of showing favoritism that to would go a long way for employees wanting to show loyalty. Someone posted on here that if you don't like working for them, quit and get another job. That is much easier said that done when there are so few jobs available in a small town and with the price of gas going up you can't aford to go to far to look for work. A good example of the favoritism that is being shown is that Wal-Mart came up with a plan to determine which employees would get another raise when minimum wage went up. However, they did not give the raise to all employees, only the ones that they wanted to have it. If you are going to give a cost of living raise, give it to all and not just to a select few. I could give several examples of employees being mistreated, but what good would it do? Maybe if a union were allowed to come to Wal-Mart there would be changes made for the good of all, both employees and c ustomers alike; however, if a jWal-Mart employee were to even be caught speaking with someone from a union it would be automatic termination. Like so many others have said, it all comes down to the bottom line and the almighty dollar and Wal-Mart only being concerned about themselves.

    • Posted By: jenniab91 @ 06/10/2008 12:57:57 AM

      i work for walmart too. when min. wage went up, some got it and others didn't based on their hire dates, not favoritism! and i have worked for a store that was unionized! all they did was take my union dues. money i could have put in the bank, because i was going to need it!!! i got fired anyway!! unions have never done a thing for me. and as far as i know, i WOULD NOT get fired for talking to a union official. but if i did talk to one, i'd tell him to take a hike. union store prices are generally higher because wages in those stores are higher because the union wants it that way. and there are SOME walmarts that are union. to each his own. but if my store went union, i'd have to think long and hard before i voted on anything. i actually make pretty good $ for someone who didn't finish my degree and is what i call a "scanner jockey". and my bonuses are pretty good. as a part timer, i and getting $245 before taxes in the next one. no union store ever gave me that. walmart has its problems, but on the whole, it's actually not a bad place to work.

  • Posted By: transmigration_110 @ 06/10/2008 12:36:21 AM

    I don't particularly like the politics of people like Flaherty, who trust angry AM radio hosts who barely graduated high school more than scientists who have studied problems using math and established methods for decades, but he does make one good point: Wal-Mart will never win the liberals. This isn't just a problem for Wal-Mart, it's a problem for any organization (for-profit or not) that gets a bad reputation. Those of us who get tired of all the emotionally-driven ideology on the right too often opt for emotionally-driven ideology on the left, making it impossible for any individual or group to do good once a single bad act has been committed. I think we need to criticize Wal-Mart for its continuing stance on things like minimum wage, Chinese labor, etc, but unless we also applaud them for making what changes they have made, they are going to abandon any strategy that aims to appease the left. They will simply decide that we are impossible to win over. If that happens, we are in deep trouble, because Wal-Mart isn't going away-- it will be the store of choice for millions of consumers for decades to come, whether we like it or not.

    • Posted By: vmt429 @ 06/10/2008 12:54:12 AM

      Finally, a person who speaks reasonably. I had almost been entirely compelled to preach Samuel Johnson's example... "As I know more of mankind I expect less of them, and am ready now to call a man a good man upon easier terms than I was formerly."
      Now I can cite, with confidence, The Count of Monte Cristo (Alexandre Dumas) instead (in addition to)... "Until the day when God shall deign to reveal the future to man, all human wisdom is summed up in these two words, 'Wait and Hope'
      Thank you for being another exception- I really am too young to lose anymore faith in man's ability to practice the reason he posseses.

  • Posted By: debby2350 @ 06/10/2008 12:49:47 AM

    WalMart has not become more liberal, not when salaried employees and hourly associates cannot email each other because this is considered working off the clock. Salaried and hourly employees also cannot go to lunch together since this is considered fraternization. I have worked at other companies where this was accepted but not at WalMart. WalMart is a good place for a woman to work because women can have a good job and rise in the company. Women count at WalMart and for good reasons!

  • Posted By: debby2350 @ 06/10/2008 12:45:53 AM

    I work for WalMart and they are not too liberal when salaried people are not allowed to email hourly associates because that is considered working off the clock. Salaried people are not allowed to associate with hourly associates like having lunch together. I have worked at other places where that was fine, but not here. WalMart has become tougher on its employees lately-salaried or not and they expect more from all of us. A woman can still get a good job here and a chance to go up in the company. I do not care what anyone says because I have seen it happen. Women count at WalMart and for good reason!!!!!!

  • Posted By: trex257 @ 06/09/2008 11:47:03 PM

    Alright people, this is Wal-Mart we are talking about, not the United States government. Issues of liberalism or conservativsm should not even come into question when it comes to a retailer like Wal-Mart. It is good that they are offering organic foods (though they are more expensive), and it is good they are offering more energy efficient light bulbs. So what if they contain mercury, flourescent light bulbs contain gases that are harmful to the environment, but does that mean we should stop buying them? NO. Just as we should not stop buying the longer lasting light bulbs. They save money, and right now, money is what people need to be saving. It is the conservative government that has ruined this country over the past eight years with the idiot president we have in office. Gas prices are over $4 a gallon because our government is stupid. Our president can't see that we are in a recession and all he can say it that "it's a period of slow economic growth." Come on, someone needs to beat the hell out of President Bush for being such a dumbass. Just like someone should smack this idiot Flaherty. It is a good thing that companies like Wal-Mart are trying to be environmentally friendly. Believe it or not folks, global warming if for real and anything that can be done to help the situation is good. The human race is on target to destroy the planet Earth and everyone, liberal and conservatives, need to due their part to save the planet. I am sick and tired of conservative tight wads complaining and whining about gays and lesbians, that global warming isn't real, and that the American people want tax cuts and nothing else. That is CRAP! Tell me something, have you ever really heard of something happening to a "liberal" company like what happened to "conservative" companies like Enron and World-Com? Not really. Think about it. Conservatives only care about one thing, money. That is it. They do not care about other people (except those with the same skewed conservative views), they don't care for the environment, and they don't care for the human race as a whole. Personally, if Wal-Mart started supporting more conservative efforts, I would stop shopping there. I don't shop there that often anyway because I don't think the savings are that good anyway, but to each his own. The point is that the country, and the world needs more companies to look at the big picture of how they are affecting their fellow man and the world. Wal-Mart is trying, and other companies should take notices. Seriously, one Halliburton and one Dick Cheney is enough for any world, we don't need any copycats where that is concerned. So you tell me, if a conservative company is better given their deplorable track record. Just a little something to think about.

    • Posted By: vmt429 @ 06/10/2008 12:40:44 AM

      "No matter what side of an argument you are on, you always find people on your side that you wish were on the other." Jascha Heifitz

    • Posted By: 444rob @ 06/09/2008 11:59:43 PM

      You are merely a slave to propaganda- you fail to provide evidence regarding the "reality" of Global Warming.
      http://ultimateglobalwarmingchallenge.com/
      The reason one does not hear of such incidents is because, generally speaking, "liberal" stores lean more towards small-shops, go out of business quicker, and because liberals control the media.

      • Posted By: vmt429 @ 06/10/2008 12:16:43 AM

        Just as the economy naturally has ups and downs, the earth naturally has global warming- there really is no reasonable debate on that FACT. Today's common use of the statement 'global warming' as far as saving the environment is the increased rate of change.
        HINT: look up 'ice core drilling' and what scientists use it for.

        • Posted By: 444rob @ 06/10/2008 12:34:03 AM

          True, but at which rate will our contribution affect Global Warming? Also, isn't it true that at a certain point in time, the melting of the ice caps, however soon, will lead to similar effects ( equal magnitude as normal ice ages) and simply an earlier time scale (will take place sooner)? (Read my earlier, large posts for correct context)

  • Posted By: joeray @ 06/10/2008 12:37:54 AM

    Goooooooo WalMart, you cannot be beaten. We senior citizens as well as every other intelligent person needing medicines for wahtever reason, have YOU to thank for the low price generic program you have started and which ministers to us in so many ways. I say this present government loving the high pricing pharmaceutical monsters, should turn our healthcare and medicine system over to WalMart. You already outshine anything the administration will ever do. I say even turn energy over to YOU, and we'd be getting the best price per gallon of gasoline that could be expected. You were the first to the victims of Katrina as we all should remember, so FEMA should be yours as well. Forget Republican or Democrat, and let's all vote for the WalMart Party. This is what all these whiners should be preaching at every stockholder's convention! I rest my case. Go WalMart!

  • Posted By: aimwildman @ 06/10/2008 12:11:16 AM

    wal mart rate of divorce caused by other employies brake up marriages and wal mart say they have family values here local at least 10 marriages have led to divorce because other employies hit on fellow workers that are married due to bs polocies at wal mart i lost my wife and also my son got taken by the state as i was trying to save my marriage..thank you wal mart for no family values and polocies of lies

    • Posted By: 444rob @ 06/10/2008 12:26:11 AM

      I really don't want to interject on your personal life, but I strongly disagree that your wife having sex with other employees is based solely on Wal-Mart policies, because Wal-Mart didn't throw them into a room and tell them to mate.

  • Posted By: OHIOFUN @ 06/10/2008 12:19:04 AM

    Mr Flaherty if you are white...married...3.2 kids...educated...and your $$$....ooops ducks in a row; I for one compliment you for frothright thinking. Realist as some of us are there is only a small percentage of you and agreat deal more then other. And women working for wal-mart,target or k-mart...Have never had a fair deal. It is just now changing. So please keep carping on somthing you really do not know about....it just stirs up people from all sides...to find out the truth. AND WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON...behind those doors you want to shut.. I thank the good LORD his moral soul decided who to create and not you and those who BAAAAAA
    follow your thinking.

  • Posted By: ab123 @ 06/09/2008 10:59:19 PM

    Yes there are pay caps for every job grade. It is up to the associate to determine if they want to continue to stay in the position or if they want to be promoted to other positions. Most areas have several different levels of pay and dont require an associate to work at a "higher work level." Im not exactly sure what that is supposed to mean but every job is different based on the skills you have and have the ability to learn and/or want to learn.

    • Posted By: headstrong @ 06/10/2008 12:18:35 AM

      It is the associates descision to be promoted or not, What BS is that?!?!

      Companies do pay MINIMUM wage, but NOT a LIVING wage. $8.00 an hour may be a lot for a seventeen year old in Kansas, but here in California that will not pay your gas and groceries, not even counting rent and other expenses.

      Or is it also my responsility to move to another state.

      Wal-mart is the epitome of destruction. They go into small communities that less corporate consumer options and KILL the local economy. Have you been to a downtown area in one of these small towns. The once middle class store owners are pushed out by Wal-mart to be hourly workers at, often times, minimum wage. So tell me again how Wal-Mart is the best company ever!! Create a suprlus of hourly workers by killing local economies and taking their money to send to arksansas. F Wal-Mart.

  • Posted By: thmsmam @ 06/09/2008 8:08:39 PM

    WHY IN THE NAME OF GOD DOES THE GOVERMENT LET THESE SWIRLED LIGHT BULBS BE PRODUCED KNOWING THEY PUT OUT MERCURY WE WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER I WOULD RATHER PAY MORE RATHER THAN GET CANCER. I WORKED AT WALMART AND THEY ARE NOT GOOD EMPLOYER'S LOW WAGES LONG HOURS LACK OF SLEEP, THEY NEED A UNION BADLY FOR THE WORK THIER PEOPLE DO THEY WOULD MAKE MORE MONEY AND MAYBE THEN THEY WOULD GET A DECENT NIGHT'S SLEEP. SHIRLEY

    • Posted By: jesusluvme @ 06/10/2008 12:17:55 AM

      To the person who commented "what's the big deal about mercury in these fluorescent bulbs"...the big deal is that if one breaks in your home, you have to have a HAZMAT team come to your home to clean up all the mercury. You can't just vacuum and clean it up - doing so disperses mercury into the air, poisoning you and your family and your pets. Ever had HAZMAT come and clean your home? It's to the tune of about $2000 a shot. I don't know about you, but I don't happen to have that kind of change hanging around my home. Stick to the regular light bulbs - They are now making extended life regular bulbs that are supposed to last twice as long as regular bulbs, and they are only about 70 cents more per 4-pack at Wal-Mart. Another issue concerning the mercury in the fluorescent bulbs - most communities have no place to dispose of them because of the amount of mercury in them - in my city, people are not allowed to throw them in the landfill and there is no disposal center locally either. People are stuck with them once they stop working and don't know what to do with them. The city can't find anyplace anywhere to ship them to, so people are just stuck....consequently, sales at Wal-mart locally for them are down because there is no place for disposal, so people aren't buying them much.

  • Posted By: OHIOFUN @ 06/10/2008 12:16:40 AM

    Mr Flaherty if you are white...married...3.2 kids...educated...and your $$$....ooops ducks in a row; I for one compliment you for frothright thinking. Realist as some of us are there is only a small percentage of you and agreat deal more then other. And women working for wal-mart,target or k-mart...Have never had a fair deal. It is just now changing. So please keep carping on somthing you really do not know about....it just stirs up people from all sides...to find out the truth. AND WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON...behind those doors you want to shut.. I thank the good LORD his moral soul decided who to create and not you and those who BAAAAAA
    follow your thinking.

  • Posted By: Dreamer19 @ 06/09/2008 7:54:03 PM

    To Citizenlobbyist, Equally distributing wealth is a communistic approach... you ask someone from a communist country what that is like... I think you'd reconsider. Those CEO's that make thousands/millions, deserve it... they worked hard to get where they are. If they work FOR someone, that job could be taken away from them at any moment. I used to be jealous about the money they make... but not now, I realize I can do the same... I just have to work as hard, or harder than them. If you worked that hard to get where you are, would you want our government to take YOUR wealth and distribute it to those who will not work hard??? What's the incentive to work hard at anything? Too many people want a free ride!

  • Posted By: uncahal @ 06/09/2008 9:00:13 PM

    LOL.Give me a break. Wal-Mart floods the market with cheap Chinese junk, pays slave wages to its" "associates" that are members of the working poor.They destroy communities and bankrupt towns that can't afford the food stamps and public assistance for the extremely low payed "associates". They couldn't care less about anything or anybody but the share holders.Does that sound liberal to you? Newsweek is garbage and uses the word liberal like it's a dirty word.Liberals are much better with the truth.

    • Posted By: jesusluvme @ 06/10/2008 12:09:18 AM

      LOL..liberals wouldn't know the meaning of the word "truth" if it jumped out at them and bit them in the ***! They are masters at glossing over the truth and not answering a question straight forward.

    • Posted By: BUBBA HAYES @ 06/09/2008 9:28:57 PM

      11.00 an hour is not slave wages .standing in air conditiond store helping people find things they want to purchase is not that tough!LAZY PEOPLE SHOULD WAKE UP BEFORE THE CHINESE TAKE US OVER.

  • Posted By: DaveSom @ 06/10/2008 12:06:17 AM

    Long Live to US War in Iraq and 10,000 dead!
    Long live to High Oil Prices!
    Long Live to US Recession!
    Long Live to Bankrupted Social Security! VOTE FOR MCCAIN!!!!!1

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