The New Face of Islam

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  • Posted By: swienke @ 06/02/2008 11:12:28 PM

    Montedoro, I suggest you read Reza Aslan's "No god but God: The Origins, Evolution, and Future of Islam." You yourself make some basic mistakes about Islam as well. First of all, you claim that all of these terrorist groups use the full Quran and don't cherry-pick, the implication being that the Quran sanctions such behavior. I don't know any Arabic, but from what Reza Aslan says, the problem lies in the fact that many Arabic words have multiple and often contradictory meanings. For example, the Arabic word for "to support" or "to respect" is also the word for "to beat" or "to hit." Such contradictory meanings mean that the Quran can often be interpreted in two or more ways, with most militants choosing to interpret it in the most violent or restrictive manner. However, this does not mean that the Quran is at fault, only those who choose to interpret it in such a manner.

  • Posted By: Montedoro @ 06/02/2008 7:46:03 PM

    Unfortunately, the authors have far too little knowledge of the Koran and the Hadith to be making these misleading assertions.
    To start with, Bin Laden never said that he had the right to kill "innocents". He used the usual Islamic definition under which no person is innocent who engages, directly or indirectly, in actions against Islam. To Bin Laden, any American who pays taxes to the American government is NOT innocent.
    More important, bin Laden is scarcely the only "extremist" Moslem who relies on the Koran and the Hadith in order to promote what we call "terrorism". There are many Moslem terrorist organizations in addition to al Qaeda, and they are busily killing or plotting to kill people in many countries including the Phillipines, Thailand, Chechnya, Kashmir, India, Sudan, Somalia, Iraq, Pakistan, and many others. Read the Hamas Charter and you will see that their call to murder the Jews is based on the Koran and on the Hadith. Hizbollah, just as murderous towards Jews and also towards Christians, is strictly based on Islamic theology. So, of course, is Shiite Iran. Bin Laden did not "cherry pick" the Koran and the Hadith. He is simply putting into practice the traditional Islamic doctrine of jihad. The entire Muslim Brotherhood, which is usually not involved directly in terrorist acts, is nevertheless in the forefront of the Moslem world for promoting Islamic imperialism by any means necessary. Yes, there was one former terrorist imam who has now come out against Bin Laden, but that is because Bin Laden has been giving Islam a bad name, not because Bin Laden is basically wrong. And, where was this imam for all those decades before last year when, in an Egyptian jail, he suddenly changed his tune? As for Saudi Arabia cracking down on those thousands of extremist imams, they are doing so only in order to protect their own regime against the purists who feel that the Saudi rulers are cooperating too much with the West. In fact, Saudi Arabia, with its unlimited oil wealth, continues to be far and away the largest exporter of Islamic extremism all over the world including the United States. They support mosques, print the hate literature and the korans which are used in them, promote anti-Semitism and general hatred of non-Moslems everywhere. For the authors to focus on bin Laden and as Qaeda is to focus on one Islamic tree and entirely miss the forest of Islamic imperialism which is the greatest threat to western civilization today and for the foreseeable future.

  • Posted By: Holly Garfield @ 06/02/2008 4:06:26 PM

    Radicalism of any kind eventually eats away at the base from which it derives. The Islamic radicals are now having so much trouble attacking the military opponents that it is feeding on its own moderates. Osama bin Laden did a symbolic strike on the two WTC towers. The US did real strikes on two countries. Now the radicals are watched by unmammed eyes on the sky day and night, piloted by people an ocean away. The governments they once ran are now working against them, bringing their nations into the rest of the world. The path the people are following has nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with staying alive and getting ahead.

  • Posted By: Cates @ 06/02/2008 4:02:16 PM

    http://www.apostatesofislam.com - You can be free of Islam!

  • Posted By: sgoldbarg @ 05/31/2008 11:16:26 PM

    C. MacLean is absolutely correct. With the fall of the "powerful" Soviet Union, the party of fear needed a new bogey man to scare us with. Oila! enter the bush crime family armed and trained osama bin laden. Now, we are mired in a "war of civilizations" against the "powerful" Muslim bogey man.

    • Posted By: perumanian @ 06/01/2008 12:42:53 AM

      You liberal jews will learn your lesson when they pour fire down your thoat. Does that scare you?

      • Posted By: mbronner @ 06/02/2008 3:35:31 AM

        Do you not believe that there are millions of liberal Christians, or do you think that all of you share your hatred towards Jews? (rhet.). What year did you drop out of high school? (rhet.) Did your father hit you enough when he wasn't in jail? (rhet.) When did you get out of jail? (rhet)

        • Posted By: emmarcee @ 06/02/2008 1:47:37 PM

          it hit some chords. ... very good. May be it is your inner self...

      • Posted By: sgoldbarg @ 06/01/2008 10:26:05 AM

        Nothing frightens me. As a Jew, I have a close personal relationship with the Holy One. I am never alone, never in danger, never without HaShem.

        If you do not feel the same way, perhaps you would do better to change your religion.

  • Posted By: underdog @ 06/02/2008 12:20:45 AM

    Does the "new face of Islam" include the London subway bombers?

    • Posted By: emmarcee @ 06/02/2008 1:45:26 PM

      of course and those who set up the car bomb in front of embassy in Pakistan. all because some persons drew a caricature of Muhammed. How peace loving.

  • Posted By: Tigerboy @ 06/02/2008 1:41:44 AM

    I would invite you to consider radical Islam as a classic Crisis cult. There are many such examples of crisis cults such as the cult of the shining cross, the ghost dance, and even some of the dance cults in european history. The crisis cult consists of 1. a traditional culture confronted by a crisis and ,2. responds by developing a crisis cult thet, 3. is comprised of a return to tradition and, is mingled with new or syncretic elements and that is, 4. dedicated to radical social changes.
    Radical Islam is a reconstruction of a time and tradition that never was, it is a fantasy.
    The crisis in traditional cultures is the invasion of new ideas by media for which people and especially young people have an appetite such as western movies and music.
    The crisis is within the believer as to how to deal with these desires and retain a sense of decency and pride.
    The radical's jihad (or struggle) is to destroy within himself that which he finds unholy. The struggle is externalized and turned outward as a hatred of the West but it is a hatred of the desires of the self.
    Thus the innocent are destroyed as the Radical fundamentalist sees his own shadow in the souls of his victims.
    The traditional crisis cult falls apart when its members awaken from their fantasy and realize that their vision of glory was of a time that never was and that it promises an empty world that just isn't that much fun. The traditional crisis cult fades when the traditional culture realizes the crisis cult leaders are deluded fools who bring only destruction and ruin.
    Just give them time. Let their fantasy play out and soon they will live in their land of no music or dancing, no love and no joy. One by one their hypocrisy will be exposed and they will face the cruel shariah they have built for others.
    Or, they can simply submit to reality , to creation and creator, and awaken to a World as it is and enjoy it.

    • Posted By: emmarcee @ 06/02/2008 1:43:32 PM

      unless, they procure a n- bomb from one of those "republics".. Very informative, thanks.. But you may have to dwell into the violent history of spread of Islam. (not much different from Catholic Christianity) Hopefully the moderate majority will speak out one day.

  • Posted By: Cates @ 06/02/2008 1:03:06 PM

    All religions rot the mind.

  • Posted By: denmill @ 06/02/2008 12:49:50 PM

    Even moderate Islamic people do not have the courage to denounce the muslem extremists due to fear of retaliation. I believe that I you do not comdem a problem you becoming a silent participant. The bombing of the Danish Embassy is a good example of the cowerdness of the muslem world.

  • Posted By: baybarsorsek @ 06/02/2008 12:16:53 PM

    Turkish approach could be a role model in middle east.A country that is secular and democratic in Muslim world must be an example to all muslim countries,As a Turkish citizen i could support ruiing party if only i can trust them on protecting my liberties.

  • Posted By: Jamal Olugosch @ 06/02/2008 4:57:59 AM

    Relative thinking and analysis toward Mohammad's words are not being expressed freely in some states where Islam is the dominating religion of the people. It is obvious that Turkish scholars are practicing their advantage of living under a secular state, and doing what should have been done to bring old words to current new masses and educate people. Kudos to them!

  • Posted By: mbronner @ 06/02/2008 3:27:41 AM

    To pretend that Islam is only one thing is to pretend that Christianity is only one thing or pretending that Judaism is one thing. The "New" Face of Islam isn't "new", but that buzz word certainly got my attention.

  • Posted By: andy_f90 @ 06/02/2008 3:10:22 AM

    As a Muslim, although I intially agreed with Dickey, the Turkish project is just hilarious and ridiculous.

    As someone who is a successful, pious, peace-loving, and educated I don't need the religious authorities of the Turkish gov't to "interpret" (just like bin Laden would interpret it another way) what I consider essential narrations and creed of my faith.

    Islam is a pretty straigt forward and spirtual way of life, those Muslims and non-Muslims who seek it, live it, and practice it would not go wrong regardless of the political trends and winds that blow ever constantly.

  • Posted By: liberaldemokrat @ 06/02/2008 1:23:08 AM

    Islam does not despise anything. They are humbled in its grace.

  • Posted By: thorlin @ 06/02/2008 12:51:42 AM

    Welcome to fantasy island...

  • Posted By: perumanian @ 06/01/2008 12:41:03 AM

    stupid Newsweek Editors, say this to people who died in Bomb blast last week in India... where do they get there sugared folktales? How much stake do Arabs have in Newsweek now adays?

    • Posted By: sgoldbarg @ 06/01/2008 10:39:04 AM

      Tell it to Nichols and McVeigh. Tell it to Ted Bundy and Jeffrey Dahmer. Tell it to Hitler, the choir boy, and Stalin, the altar boy.

      How much of a stake does perumanian have in the cult of fear?

      • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 06/02/2008 12:32:42 AM

        Your analogy is foolish. Those individuals were just that. Individuals. Islam is a major religion. Islam is Islam. Islam despises all thngs non-Islamic. Islam rules through intimadation and fear. Islam will stop at no bounds, in order to institute Sharia Law. Islam is a cult of death and bondage. To see it as anything else, is naive....and dangerous. It is evil, incarnate.

        NOBAMA!!!

  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 06/02/2008 12:25:29 AM

    Islam is the spawn of Hell. A deception and lie created by, an alliance of a pedophile warrior and the father of all lies. The children of, Ismael were at one time, a great people. World leaders in, the Arts, Sciences, Literature, Medicine, Architecture, Astronomy, Archeology, etc. It is virtually all gone. The children of Ismael, now have few of these great gifts. What happened? Islam happened. It has taken from them the Gifts, of Father Abraham, and replaced them with bondage..A complete lack of freedom of choice. A culture death and destruction.

    I pray for the children of Ishmael, that these bonds may be broken. And true peace and freedom once again, be a birthright.

    NOBAMA!!!

  • Posted By: ben nevis @ 06/01/2008 6:46:22 PM

    Known narrations of the profhet's "sayings" total 170,000! Impossible! What does it mean to "tone down the fire and brimstone"? You still have FIRE AND BRIMSTONE!

  • Posted By: eveeeet @ 06/01/2008 11:32:06 AM

    I was born in a contry that, %99 of the people are muslims. I've never seen or heard of FGM for 26 years that I've spent there. Then another muslim told me after I moved to the States (after 26 yaers) thatthey do it in some muslim contries. I was suprised but as Vatican not being the sembol of christianity, egypt or saudy arabia is not the sembol of islam. Muhammed (S.A.V) was the sembol of islam. Now everybody is responsible for themselves, there is no FGM in Qur'an.

    • Posted By: filizly @ 06/01/2008 11:52:59 AM

      are you from turkey?
      please read my writing above..

    • Posted By: filizly @ 06/01/2008 11:52:17 AM

      are you from turkey?
      please read my writing above

  • Posted By: filizly @ 06/01/2008 8:19:50 AM

    islam dont need reform.
    feto is stupid.
    in turkey there are a lot of st??pid muslim, like feto.
    anyone doesn change islam.
    bot you can change yourself.

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