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Just How Low Will They Go?

With 'elitist' a choice slur, candidates are trying to win over the new 'It' demographic: 'low-info voters.'

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  • Posted By: Nins @ 07/06/2008 11:00:55 PM

    Did you know that if McCain is elected you will have to pay income tax on the value of the medical insurance that your employer gives you? Worse still, he is offering a tax break for people who pay their own insurance, BUT only $2,500 for individuals and $5,000 for families.

    Let's say you have a family of four. Your insurance policy costs would be at least $1,500-2,000 per month under a self-pay plan, which cost more than employer group plans. So, you pay $18,000 -$30,000 per year for insurance, and you get to deduct only $5,000 of that. If you paid $25,000 for you insurance, you would be out of pocket $20,000 per year. This is FAR WORSE than the current system, where if you are self employed you can deduct 100% of you medical insurance costs.

    So, if you're not self employed, you would stick with your Employer's plan. Employer plans for a family of four have a value of $900-$1,500 per month totaling 10,800-$18,000 per year. Surprise! On April 15th, you owe tax on all of that as INCOME to you. Say your bracket is 25%, and the value of your Employer medical plan is $14,000. You will OWE THE IRS an additional $3,500, and that's ON TOP of whatever monthly premium you already pay to your employer for your insurance.

    Many analysts say that McCain's new rules would encourage employers to stop offering health benefits. If that happened, then far fewer Americans would be insured than are insured today, because what family of four can afford $18,000-30,000 out of pocket per year for self-pay health insurance?

    Furthermore, McCain's plan does not require insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions of people who self-pay their insurance. People under employer group plans have all of their pre-existing conditions covered. This is a hugely unfair aspect of the current system. Insurance companies can afford to cover the pre-existing conditions of the much larger pool of people with group insurance, but they refuse to pay the pre-existing conditions on the smaller pool of self-pay customers. They have been allowed to price gouge the self-pay customers, which is a form of market manipulation that should be illegal.

    So let's say one of your kids had diabetes and you have high blood pressure, then your employer stops offering insurance. You now have to buy your own, but you and your child are INELIGIBLE due to pre-existing conditions. Oh, yeah, they will let you buy the insurance, but you can't use it for any pre-existing condition until you have paid on time every month for two years. And you know what happens at one year and 11 months? You get a letter saying your policy has been cancelled. I have many patients this has happened to.

    McCain's plan SUCKS.

    It does nothing to help middle class working Americans afford or obtain medical insurance. In fact, it makes the current system WORSE.

    • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/07/2008 9:20:32 AM

      did you know that under obama's plan you will pay more for medical insurance because of the cost sharing program that he will put in place that means all ilegals here be getting free health care paid for by the american worker self employed or not !! p.s. there are aprox 15-18 million ilegals here and more to come !!

      • Posted By: Nins @ 07/07/2008 1:05:27 PM

        Illegal aliens ALREADY get free care at public hospitals all over America. Who pays for it? We do. Me personally, I do not think that this is good, but it is the way it is. Emergency rooms, by law, must see and treat any patient who shows up, regardless of their ability to pay, their citizenship, gender, religious beliefs, etc.

        Nothing in McCain's plan changes this. Obama's plan tries to make it cheaper for us by allowing these people to go to clinics, which are much less costly than ERs. Neither candidate solves the problem, but at least Obama addresses it and makes it cost us less money.

        • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/08/2008 5:06:40 PM

          yes mccains paln do address this he wants them to leave the country and or get a id card so we can try and recoup the money that is spent on them obama just wants to turn a blind eye to the after all thier peopel too thats the liberals way of thinking !!

        • Posted By: loriw @ 07/08/2008 3:09:44 AM

          Nins if you were truly in nedicine as you claim you would know that there are already clinics for low cost/free health care for those that need it but they still insist on flooding the ER instead. Why, because a lot of them are too lazy to get out of bed to go to appointments or to take the bus across town to the clinic so instead they wait and go to the ER which is closer. In at lot of cases the clinics expect them to take some responsbility for their care- lose weight, stop smoking, stop using drugs etc In the ER they just treat you and get you back home. Besides if you are drugging and you get messed up in the middle of the night- guess what the free health care clinic isn't open so they go to ER. Nins do you preactice medicine in the real world?

    • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/07/2008 9:24:08 AM

      go to the canidates web sites to see for your self www.barackobama.com www.johnmccain.com there you will see the differance

  • Posted By: archmsu @ 07/07/2008 2:44:51 AM

    What does this say about the educational level of our country?

    • Posted By: Nins @ 07/07/2008 1:07:03 PM

      It says that Obama is right, we really need to improve our education system. The NEA (a national association of teachers) have come out in support of Obama.

      God bless our teachers.

      • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/08/2008 5:04:07 PM

        the association you spoke of is just a neat name for organized labor with a union who have thier very own agenda that obama will fulfill with taxpayer money !

      • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 07/08/2008 5:01:42 PM

        take a long look at the school system in chicago and see obama's good work they have the 2nd highest dropout rate in the country what does that say about obama clean the mess in your own back yard before you try and save the world !!

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/07/2008 5:13:17 PM

    New PRO-HILLARY website launched today. Sign the pledge to get her name on the ballot for nomination.

    Here is the new site. Check it out: http://www.together4us.com/


    THE PLEDGE OF TOGETHERNESS: SPREAD THE WORD!

    We stand together with her 18 million voters in pursuit of all of the following:

    Bring us together by honoring Hillary Clinton and her supporters at the Democratic National Convention in Denver by:

    Placing her name into nomination (following traditional protocol)

    Ensuring a roll-call vote

    Inviting her to speak, during prime-time, on August 26th, the 88th anniversary of Women's Suffrage

    Bring us together by adoption of policies on the Platform Committee that Hillary Clinton has championed.

    Bring us together through reform of the primary and caucus system to reflect the basic principle of one person - one vote.

    Bring us together through outspoken denunciation of all gender bias, racism and other forms of discrimination.

    Bring us together by making a concerted effort to retire her campaign debt.

    We are being asked to embrace Party Unity without the fair representation of Hillary Clinton and her 18 million voters. Party Unity requires bilateral action. We ask Barack Obama and the DNC to respond.

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 07/06/2008 8:27:04 PM

    What is this article doing back again . . . Isnt publishing it once enough? Are you that short on newsworthy articles?

  • Posted By: annalembke @ 06/29/2008 8:56:53 PM

    Some superb commentary on this article:
    http://www.shootthemessengernyc.com/index.php?/video/player/low_info_voters1/

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/11/2008 7:46:58 AM

    Posted By: sharenews @ 06/11/2008 6:46:41 AM
    Comment: IMPORTANT BULLETIN FOR ALL BLOGGERS ON THIS SITE:

    TO NEWSWEEK STAFF:

    This is to report that there is a FRAUD going on, on this site, in which bloggers are using the names of various bloggers (Obama supporters are most likely the culprits) who are fraudulently writing blogs that are deplorable and tagging them under other bloggers names (non-Obama supporters names). I officially reported such a fraudulent abusive use of fake postings that I just viewed on this site today that affected me personally. This is what it said in which the blogger fraudulently used my name as the poster:

    IT SAID THIS. I NEVER WROTE THIS. SO ALL OTHER POSTERS, ESPECIALLY FORMER HILLARY SUPPORTERS, BEWARE:

    Posted By: sharenews @ 06/11/2008 03:05:43

    Comment: I agree. So why do so many Obama supporters make him out to be a Messiah?

    I NEVER wrote the above comment or ANY mention of Obama being a Messiah. At this point I am ready to bring this abusive process that you are using on your site to FOX NEWS as I have done this before and they are very responsive. I have copied this report to send onto the media if I dont see a stop to the smearing of my name or others on this site moving forward!

  • Posted By: guyblank @ 06/09/2008 7:17:28 PM

    Another reason our founders placed restrictions on who can vote. I call for them again. And please don't think this is some neo-con/libertarian saying this, I'm a liberal middle class African American Democrat. It's funny that "elitist" is considered such a bad word when the founder's intent was that those who lead this country actually be more educated and well-bred than the common rabble-the so called "low-info" voter. It's funny that the candidates are throwing back beers to connect with the "regular citizens" while the founders are rolling in their graves. :)

  • Posted By: speckelbelly @ 06/03/2008 6:34:57 PM

    BIG DEAL!!! SO WHAT IF THERE IS A TAPE WITH WHITEY ON IT?HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU SAID ***?GET OVER IT!!! DAMM RACIST FREAKS!!!WHAT COMES AROUND GOES AROUND! AT LEAST OBAMA TRYS TO UNITE!

    • Posted By: smc341 @ 06/09/2008 12:38:49 AM

      You must be one of the low information voters, you spelled "tries" wrong. Why can't anyone in this country spell correctly and write a coherent sentence???? Jeez....

  • Posted By: RMax304823 @ 06/08/2008 1:58:36 PM

    There always have been "low info voters" and there always will be. The problem is that their numbers seem to be growing. And the media is complicit in this, although the writers don't seem to realize it. Videorecorders and tapes follow the candidates around and every slip that an exhausted speaker makes is recorded and played dozens of times over programs that purport to be serious sources of news. McCain's "Iran is training al Qaeda." Obama's "they cling to guns and religion." If there isn't a slip, the media will invent one for you -- Bill Clinton's offhand remark that Obama's candidacy was "a fairy tale" is turned into a racist remark. Hillary's "cackle" is ridiculed and when viewers tire of that, her "tears" are played and replayed. And the public is complicit too. Fewer than HALF of college juniors can place the American Civil War in its proper half century. For a substantial number, Toronto is a city in Italy. They can't find Iraq on a map, although many are perfectly willing to have others die there, for reasons never clearly explained by any of the candidates. Oh, well, who cares? Did you know Obama wears boxers?

  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 06/03/2008 1:00:46 PM

    whitey alert!!!...whitey alert!!!...whitey alert!!!...whitey alert!!!...whitey alert!!!...

    Is There a Shocking Michelle Obama Recording?

    Monday, June 2, 2008 4:34 PM

    By: Newsmax Staff Article

    An untold story lies behind Hillary Clinton's determination to remain in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination ?? the possible revelation of a shocking recording of rival Barack Obama's wife Michelle.

    That's the word from longtime political analyst Roger J. Stone Jr., who writes on his The StoneZONE Web site that the recording purportedly documents Michelle Obama making racist comments in a speech.

    According to Stone, Hillary aides are in a race with Republicans to get their hands on the offensive recording.

    On the heels of Michelle Obama's quote that she. has never been proud of her country, until now, the new controversy could turn the contest upside down, but it is more likely to benefit, John McCain than to boost Hillary Clinton to the nomination, if the alleged recording exists, Stone writes.

    He also asserts that Mark Penn, Clinton's former chief campaign strategist, has told sources that the bombshell "could come this week."

    © 2008 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

    Looks like The Great Unifier and his Cruella DeVille(w/a tan) sweetie, are about to finish off his hopes of being POTUS. I told ya'll this over a week ago. Hold on to your burqua's. IT'S COMING!!!

    NOBAMA!!!

    • Posted By: hotstuff @ 06/04/2008 8:18:29 AM

      The lunatics are out on the rampage again!

    • Posted By: Huachuca @ 06/03/2008 4:16:02 PM

      CAN'T WAIT!!!

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 06/03/2008 11:42:28 PM

    Republican VP made a joke about incest, quipping: ???I had on both sides of the family???and we don't even live in West Virginia.??? Several West Virginia officials went ballistic, including 90-year-old Sen. Robert Byrd, who criticized the vice president???s ???contempt and astounding ignorance toward his own countrymen.???Republican really makes this West Virgina Feels bad that someone they feed bites their hand.

    Later that day, Byrd was hospitalized.

    Far be it from us to speculate as to whether Byrd???s ill health was a direct result of Cheney???s insult.

  • Posted By: daddyo159 @ 06/03/2008 4:37:02 PM

    BLAH BLAH BLAH OBAMA SPEECH BLAH BLAH BLAH THE TRUTH IS THE GRASS ROOTS YOU SPEAK OF GOT SMOKED IN CHICAGO HE ADMITTED TO IT AND JUST SO YOU KNOW HE TALKS ALOT BUT SAYS NOTHING I HAVE LISTENED AND NOT HEARD HOW OR WHEN HE'S GONNA MAKE THE CHANGES JUST A BUNCH OF BULLSHIT LIKE ALL THE OTHERS I'VE SEEN IN MY LONG TIME AS A VOTER SO WITH THAT BEING SAID I'LL TAKE THE PROTECTION OF THE U.S. AND OF ISRAEL OVER SOME MORE POLITICAL JARGON !!!!

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 06/02/2008 10:57:35 PM

    GRASSROOTS SPOKEN -ITS ALL ABOUT PEOPLE-nothing can match if AMERICANS count as ONE........DIVERSITY in UNITY.......What goes around comes around.....YES WE CAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..." TIME TO CHANGE THE WAY HOW WASHINGTON BEEN OPERATED.LONG OVER DUE AS ONE PEOPLE INSTUITION NOT AS ONE INDIVIDUAL AGENDA.

    • Posted By: daddyo159 @ 06/03/2008 4:35:34 PM

      NO YOU CAN'T ...............YOU DON'T KNOW JACK !!!! NO HUSSEIN VOTE FOR McCAIN !!!

  • Posted By: daddyo159 @ 06/03/2008 4:32:53 PM

    Barack Hussein Obama & Mahmoud Ahmadinejad 08 does that sound real american?............................................... yeah right the Musliums have come here to roost .............................................................................................................no Hussein vote for McCain !!!!

  • Posted By: bella12 @ 06/01/2008 1:24:11 PM

    Those who supported Bush/cheney and now support McCain thrive on low-info. Anyone who will vote to continue sending young women and men to die in a war that was cooked up by the Republican party is a mouth-breather. The word republican is synonymous with ignorance.

    • Posted By: No To DNC @ 06/01/2008 3:40:47 PM

      Oh stupid one is for using the military young men and women. They are there to go where their country needs them. If not Iraq it will be somewhere else. My issue is we already had mission accomplished and then the president changed the mission. So to all you nut jobs out there. The military does the job and does it well, whatever the mission. No president will stop using the miltary and young men and women will die under any president.

      • Posted By: catspaw @ 06/02/2008 6:01:53 PM

        50s had Korea, 70s had Vietnam, 2000 HAS IRAN, Another War that was not needed and not wanted. A Loss/Loss end, no matter what.

        • Posted By: Huachuca @ 06/03/2008 4:23:48 PM

          cat - IRAN?!? Are you sure about this? We will be bombing IRAN before summer is over, unless Israel gets them first. And if you understood anything besides worship of your Allah, you would know the IRAQ war was needed. Ask the families of the millions Saddam slaughtered.

  • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/03/2008 3:21:54 PM

    HISTORY HAS BEEN MADE!!!!!! Congratulations to Barack Obama for becoming the first man of African descent to win the Democratic Party's Presidential nominee!!!!

    Oh wait....MORE GOOD NEWS.........

    Democratic White House candidate Barack Obama has pulled ahead of Republican John McCain in the latest Gallup voter opinion survey, published Tuesday in USA Today.
    Obama lead McCain 47 to 44 percent, in a reversal from Gallup's findings a month ago, which saw McCain ahead of Obama 47 to 45 percent.

    Let the pummeling of old time GOP politics begin.........LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: daddyo159 @ 06/01/2008 8:20:13 PM

    THE AMAZING FACTS ABOUT RACISM IN AMERICA!

    The amazing facts about racism in America are it continues to be alive and well. I first noticed it when I was in school, in the military and the workplace. There always this thing about entitlement by black people always racial remarks when things did not go their way. Always trying to play the racist trump card, the old you owe me I???m entitled. Entitled to what, you have more rights than white people now and racism still continues.
    Now we have another racist who has set an agenda for Browning America, a man that believes white people are stupid enough to fall for his propaganda. A man that has spent 20 years in a Black African Liberation church that preaches against Jews and whites. A man that is Muslim and claims to be Christian all through he has spent 20 years in a racist church. This is a man backed by Marxist, Hamas and terrorist supporters who has one goal in life to destroy whites and America. His brother is a Muslim in Kenya who believes in genocide and Obama is a citizen of Kenya.
    Obama has told many lies and states it was a mistake I misspoke if he is that error prone he has problems. One being he flip flops quite often the man is a fraud and electing him president would be the demise of America. Think of your children???s future your grandchildren do not allow Obama to destroy their future and enslave so he can satisfy his desire to destroy the white race. The wheels are in motion and we must stop them now!

    • Posted By: One nation @ 06/01/2008 8:45:33 PM

      daddy0159 you make no sense. Your data is flawed and biased. whites did not encounter slavery for more than 300 years and still face racism today...You can not become a gov't employee unless you are an AMERICAN you must have missed that part of your education if you ever received one. moron

      • Posted By: Huachuca @ 06/01/2008 10:01:38 PM

        One nation - Go home kid. You can't tell the difference between your a$$ and a hole in the ground.

        • Posted By: OBWan @ 06/01/2008 10:10:49 PM

          Huachuca - You seem to be a bitter and angry person.

          • Posted By: Huachuca @ 06/02/2008 7:19:42 AM

            OBWan - What was your first clue?

            • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/02/2008 12:17:07 PM

              Because you're so stupid you eat jellyfish with peanut butter.

              • Posted By: Huachuca @ 06/03/2008 6:14:23 AM

                Thanks Alvy, with a reply like yours, we all see what kind of brain you have.

              • Posted By: daddyo159 @ 06/02/2008 3:04:30 PM

                Enter Your Comment ahhh the very best the left can come up with wait till the michell obama (whitey ) comment on video at the church comes out.............................. lmfao........ NO HUSSEIN VOTE FOR McCAIN !!!

            • Posted By: OBWan @ 06/02/2008 11:37:15 AM

              Huachaca - The bumper sticker.

              Mine says "Stick to your Guns"

              • Posted By: daddyo159 @ 06/02/2008 3:09:37 PM

                YEP MINE SAYS HAVE GUNS WILL TRAVEL ANYONE KNOW ALVY'S ADDRESS ???

              • Posted By: Huachuca @ 06/02/2008 12:38:18 PM

                OBWan - Right On...

      • Posted By: daddyo159 @ 06/01/2008 9:10:03 PM

        I FOUGHT TO GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO POST THAT OPINION NOW SHUT UP !!

        • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/02/2008 12:19:49 PM

          You and Capt Hoochie are both real American fighting men. Too bad that shrapnel penetrated that far into your cerebrum.

          You never fought. Too dumb. Why do you guys like to lie about being the military?

          • Posted By: OBWan @ 06/02/2008 9:59:05 PM

            Alvy - I would change the subject -show some maturity and respect for others. You cannot be taken seriously.

          • Posted By: daddyo159 @ 06/02/2008 3:08:22 PM

            AHHHH ANOTHER *** THAT WILL HIDE UNDER THE BED WHEN THE *** HITS THE FAN DON'T WORRY WE'LL PROTECT EVEN YOU........ AFTER ALL WE NEED SOME ONE TO WASH CLOTHES AND POLISH BOOTS WUSSY !!!

          • Posted By: Huachuca @ 06/02/2008 1:10:52 PM

            No lie here schoolboy, so you got a uniforn?
            (and not the black and white or orange one)
            I have one Honarable Discharge right here on the wall by my desk.
            Whats on your wall, pin-ups?
            Or "guns"?

        • Posted By: OBWan @ 06/01/2008 9:38:52 PM

          daddy0159 -

          The right to be heard does not automatically include the right to be taken seriously.
          Hubert H. Humphrey

          You sir, cannot be taken seriously.

  • Posted By: the_shelton @ 05/31/2008 8:15:33 PM

    I don't think this is very low. In fact, probably most people in the US watch these shows more than they do the news. Most are too busy to even watch the news, and when they do, they don't really watch it.

    As a result, 10% of them think Obama is a Muslim, because of the name and not because they have ever watched anything to inform themselves. They have time to watch what they want and being informed is not really a high priority to most Americans. Sadly to say.

    So they watch SNL and think that is a valid representation, or they listen to Rosie talk her venum or they watch Leno and Letterman talk and see a few jokes and sometimes the candidates come on and make a joke. Probably form a lot of opinions on which joke is the best will make the best President. That is the real joke, we get what we don't educate ourselves against.

    Otherwise, how in the hell did we ever let the shiftless, idiot into office that has been for two terms, unless the US is comprised of a bunch of dingdongs who don't give a damn about anything except maybe Oprah and Ellen.

    • Posted By: Huachuca @ 06/01/2008 10:37:18 PM

      ummm - shelton - Hussein was promised by Oprah on her show, that she would be beside him all season.
      Seen her?
      peep?peep?

      • Posted By: kindmama @ 06/02/2008 12:06:55 AM

        Huachuca....do you think repeatedly calling Obama by his middle name is somehow going to take something away from him? You could repeat it a million times. ......he is still running for President and he is still smarter than you.....obviously. The name "Hussein" is just a name. If his name was the same as yours would he then spew all the rubbish that you do ? I don't think so.

        • Posted By: Huachuca @ 06/02/2008 1:00:03 PM

          kindmama - The middle name thing is because 7 out of 10 Americans don't like the name "Hussein". And I am one of them. Hence the Hussein.
          Funny you Hussein supporters are quiet when its McCain or Hillary's propaganda is all over these blogs.
          Kinda like the Muslims do while the World is being attacked.

          This so called "rubbish" is merely pointing out what a silly little sissy your choice for Prez is.
          If he had my name it MIGHT be more acceptable than the same name of 1/2 of the 9/11 hijackers...

          • Posted By: OBWan @ 06/02/2008 3:34:51 PM

            Huachuca - This is the reason my father-in-law did not campaign for elective office in 60's or 70's. You know the "cold war" and a Russian name, just did not work out. The sad part is that his father immigrated here and fought in WWI, and was gassed in France, I believe. Oh! he was a WWII Army vet.

            • Posted By: Huachuca @ 06/02/2008 5:39:24 PM

              OBWan - and your Father was a TRUE patriot, For which you should be very proud.
              But there is alot more to Hussein tthan a Muslim name, it's just too obvious from all his ties.
              My father missed being old enough to join up in WWII by a few months. But he was a Korean / Vietnam war vet. I also had 2 uncles who were in WWII, all Army.
              If the man didn't have the ties, I would have no trouble voting for him.
              If it were Condi, Colin, J.C.Watts, or a few others, they wuold have secured the nomination long ago. And we wouldn't be argueing about it on these blogs...

              • Posted By: OBWan @ 06/02/2008 6:42:02 PM

                Huachua - That was my father-in-law and yes, he was, as are your 2 uncles and father. I think the entire generation was, few exceptions. Each has their own story to tell.
                No argue just sharing one of the 300 million points of view. I think that is what our pop is now.

                • Posted By: Huachuca @ 06/03/2008 5:58:28 AM

                  OBWan - Pardon me on my goof of your Father-in-law.
                  All 3 of mine are gone now, and it's a damn shame none got to see the WWII memorial in D.C.

            • Posted By: catspaw @ 06/02/2008 5:06:51 PM

              I will be proud to have a "Hussein" as my President!!

              Obama 08

              • Posted By: Huachuca @ 06/02/2008 5:42:53 PM

                cat - I'll be nice this time...

  • Posted By: bella12 @ 06/01/2008 11:26:05 AM

    Every time I see John McCain, he looks a little frailer, a little more wobblier on his feet. I think he keeps Cindy closer than a Siamese twin to catch him and brace him when he's standing. When I see them coming down the stairs from Cindy's Jet, it's like watching a NASCAR race. I'm expecting a wreck any second.

    • Posted By: Huachuca @ 06/01/2008 6:12:35 PM

      bella - Accuse him of being "frailer" all you want. Guess you haven't heard of his wounds from being tortured for 5 years.
      Despite his problems, I'll bet he could kick little wussy boy Hussein's A$$ in say... 10 seconds.

      • Posted By: OBWan @ 06/01/2008 6:22:15 PM

        Huachca -
        And what else did those 5 years do to him?

        • Posted By: Huachuca @ 06/01/2008 6:41:22 PM

          It made him 10 times the man the little punk is, and probably made him think about the common man hundreds of times more than Hussein ever has, or ever will.
          And it made him an American Hero.
          Haven't seen ANYTHING but foolishness out of BHO.

          • Posted By: OBWan @ 06/01/2008 8:29:27 PM

            Huachuca - Yes, he is an American Hero. I again ask you what else did those 5 years do?

            The reason I ask is that I see - I support this and then flip to no I do not in a very short time period. This almost appears that he is trying to satisfy those who do not originally agree with him. He has a long history of this.

            Was Horace Greeley an American hero?

            • Posted By: Huachuca @ 06/01/2008 10:34:09 PM

              So we want to talk flip-flopping? How about can't disown my pastor/ disown my pastor, Flagpin/noflag pin
              just neighbors with Ayers/ Planned my run for POTUS in his kitchen. ect, ect, ect.Hell we can't even find out the TRUTH about this wuss. And contrary to what the "educated" folks say, these questions need answers.
              Not to mention the flip flopping throughout this election season.

              Although Greely did speak out on important issues of the day, I would not call him a "hero". Actually he was pretty foolish in most respects of life. Kinda mirrors Hussein in his political thinking.

              • Posted By: sebr01stl @ 06/01/2008 11:04:37 PM

                "So we want to talk about flip-flopping?...Flagpin/no flag pin...And contrary to what the "educated" folks say, these questions need answers." The flag pin question needs answers, Huachuca? is this one of your litmus tests for Commander in chief? Do McCain and HRC always wear flag pins? your inclusion of this in your rant tells much about you. Silly wabbit, being a war hero isn't even sufficient for litmus for POTUS.

                • Posted By: catspaw @ 06/02/2008 5:33:16 PM

                  Besides if you look, you will find most, if not all flag pins are made in China. If some does not wear one, maybe the feel they are trying to support the workers in the US until the find a pin that is made is the USA.

                  • Posted By: Huachuca @ 06/03/2008 5:52:38 AM

                    catspaw - I'm sure you are right since the only place you probably shop is at Wal-Mart. But anyone who has respect for our flag and understands the meaning of it will not wear one made in China. I'm sure the only reason Hussein wasn't wearing one at first is because it's kinda hard to find one in a Muslim country.
                    His probably IS made in China.

                • Posted By: Huachuca @ 06/02/2008 7:59:01 AM

                  seabro - my "litmus test" for POTUS is you have to be a PATRIOT and LOVE your country.
                  Hussein passes neither...
                  And you boys got answers to Rezko, Ayers, Sinclair, ect?
                  Don't feel bad, Hussein doesn't either...

                  • Posted By: OBWan @ 06/02/2008 3:24:33 PM

                    Huachua
                    Th problem with Rezko is he leads directly to Karl Rove.

                    • Posted By: Huachuca @ 06/02/2008 5:28:57 PM

                      OBWan - This we shall see, but he also leads to Hussein, along with Ayers, Sinclair, and alot more.
                      And I could care less about Rove than the company this man keeps.

              • Posted By: catspaw @ 06/02/2008 5:27:42 PM

                Learn proper abbreviations, It's etc.

                • Posted By: Huachuca @ 06/03/2008 5:46:29 AM

                  Scuse me teach. So, you teach ebonics or what? Point out my spelling all day long, but I will continue to post. Feel free to correct my spelling...

              • Posted By: OBWan @ 06/01/2008 11:16:24 PM

                Huachucha - Greeley, was a founder of the Republican Party.
                Again, the question is what else happened to McCain in his 5 years of captivity. There are rumors that he consorted we the enemy. You have not answered the question - BTW currently I do not have a horse in this race.

                Trust me you really do not want to go down the path of religion - it usually leads to sorrow. Billy Graham had this one right - do not support anyone.
                Flagpin / Noflagpin - sometimes he wears sometimes he does not.
                Aryes ??? no arrest, no trial. Hmm!
                What about the Airbus (France) contract for air refueling- this is a national security issue and a national debt issue.

                Of course there is the adultery he committed while still married to his first wife ??? needs to answer this ??? us unenlightened need a response. BTW ??? my religion does not permit divorce ??? see the problem.

                Truth - you will always find what you seek and call it truth.

                • Posted By: Huachuca @ 06/02/2008 8:02:51 AM

                  Has there been "truth" from anyone yet? Just have to realize things that very well could destroy this country.
                  Can't see Hills or McCain doing that.
                  However a creature like Hussein anyone can. Just have to open your eyes.

    • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/01/2008 3:24:18 PM

      I agree, I think campaigning for all those months at that age, drains one of energy. He's a good guy though.

  • Posted By: knobrocker @ 06/01/2008 11:47:30 AM

    A.K.A. Low-I.Q. voters. Maybe Americans should have to take an intelligence and a civics test to be allowed to vote. That would count our Appalachia altogether.

    • Posted By: Huachuca @ 06/01/2008 10:18:10 PM

      knobpolisher - AND the 90% huh?
      LMAO!!

      McCain 08

      • Posted By: sebr01stl @ 06/01/2008 10:58:16 PM

        Are you calling all black people low I.Q., Huachuca? just asking so I know how to view the rest of your comments, whether to take them seriously or not.

        • Posted By: Huachuca @ 06/02/2008 7:35:32 AM

          seabro - no I am not. There is stupid in every race..

          • Posted By: catspaw @ 06/02/2008 5:35:28 PM

            Yea Huachuca, check your spelling, stupid is as stupid does.

            • Posted By: Huachuca @ 06/03/2008 5:43:57 AM

              cat - Gee thanks for pointing out my spelling. It's nice to know you agree with all of my post though.
              I'll work on the spelling "teach".
              Funny you show your stupidity by commenting on such a trivial matter.
              So how come you never comment on the spelling of glimps? It's Okay to misspell if you agree with the person huh?
              So who's stupid?

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