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As Democratic party leaders debated the fate of the Florida and Michigan delegation, protestors outside illustrated the divide between many Obama and Clinton supporters.

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  • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/11/2008 7:49:24 AM

    Posted By: sharenews @ 06/11/2008 6:46:41 AM
    Comment: IMPORTANT BULLETIN FOR ALL BLOGGERS ON THIS SITE:

    TO NEWSWEEK STAFF:

    This is to report that there is a FRAUD going on, on this site, in which bloggers are using the names of various bloggers (Obama supporters are most likely the culprits) who are fraudulently writing blogs that are deplorable and tagging them under other bloggers names (non-Obama supporters names). I officially reported such a fraudulent abusive use of fake postings that I just viewed on this site today that affected me personally. This is what it said in which the blogger fraudulently used my name as the poster:

    IT SAID THIS. I NEVER WROTE THIS. SO ALL OTHER POSTERS, ESPECIALLY FORMER HILLARY SUPPORTERS, BEWARE:

    Posted By: sharenews @ 06/11/2008 03:05:43

    Comment: I agree. So why do so many Obama supporters make him out to be a Messiah?

    I NEVER wrote the above comment or ANY mention of Obama being a Messiah. At this point I am ready to bring this abusive process that you are using on your site to FOX NEWS as I have done this before and they are very responsive. I have copied this report to send onto the media if I dont see a stop to the smearing of my name or others on this site moving forward!

  • Posted By: griffin1 @ 06/05/2008 11:26:00 PM

    For those of you are voting McBush to keep our solders over in Iraq do your home work PLEASE
    1. - Our soldiers are doing 2 and 3 terms in Iraq they have no relief
    2.- Our soldiers suicide rate is up 40 %
    3. - McBush states we will stay the course, what course nothing has changed, but Dick Cheney company is over there working on a 10 year contract.

    FACTS: The Bush administration misused intelligence to build a case for the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003, the Senate Intelligence Committee said in a report issued Thursday.

    "Before taking the country to war, this administration owed it to the American people to give them a 100 percent accurate picture of the threat we faced," Rockefeller said Thursday.
    The report also found that the administration misled the American people about contacts between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda
    OBAMA 08'

  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 06/03/2008 12:31:27 PM

    whitey alert!!!...whitey alert!!!...whitey alert!!!...whitey alert!!!...whitey alert!!!...

    Is There a Shocking Michelle Obama Recording?

    Monday, June 2, 2008 4:34 PM

    By: Newsmax Staff Article Font Size




    An untold story lies behind Hillary Clinton???s determination to remain in the race for the Democratic presidential nomination ??? the possible revelation of a shocking recording of rival Barack Obama???s wife Michelle.

    That???s the word from longtime political analyst Roger J. Stone Jr., who writes on his The StoneZONE Web site that the recording purportedly documents Michelle Obama making racist comments in a speech.

    According to Stone, Hillary aides are in a race with Republicans to get their hands on the offensive recording.

    ???On the heels of Michelle Obama???s quote that she ???has never been proud of her country??? until now, the new controversy could turn the contest upside down, but it more likely??? to benefit ???John McCain than to boost Hillary Clinton to the nomination ??? if the alleged recording exists,??? Stone writes.

    He also asserts that Mark Penn, Clinton???s former chief campaign strategist, has told sources that the bombshell ???could come this week.???





    © 2008 Newsmax. All rights reserved.

    Looks like The Great Unifier and his Cruella DeVille(w/a tan) sweetie, are about to finish off his hopes of being POTUS. I told ya'll this over a week ago. Hold on to your burqua's. IT'S COMING!!!

    NOBAMA!!!

    • Posted By: griffin1 @ 06/05/2008 11:25:12 PM

      continue to spread lies.,
      OBAMA 08'

    • Posted By: TruthForward @ 06/03/2008 12:41:15 PM

      HolyRoller... If there was an untold story.. You would not have it. I wish the envy about his wife would stop.

      Further, if they don't have a tape, how on earth do they know what's on it. lol This is like saying you know there is WMD in Iraq, but can not point to a location, because you have not found the WMD..

  • Posted By: annie C @ 06/05/2008 10:58:20 AM

    I see McCain as President. The Democratic blew it again. How stupid can they get.

  • Posted By: rainbow68 @ 06/03/2008 8:33:39 AM

    She can't be chosen as veep. It goes against everything Senator Obama has stood for. He must resist the pressure to choose her.

    • Posted By: TruthForward @ 06/03/2008 11:18:00 PM

      What about Gore..

    • Posted By: TruthForward @ 06/03/2008 5:18:53 PM

      There is a long fight ahead. And he can't check up on what the Clintons are doing or who they are offending, or whatever. He will be too busy for to deal with a couple of wildcards.

    • Posted By: TruthForward @ 06/03/2008 4:53:05 PM

      She would probably pretend to be running the country herself. There are other women and men that would be great.

    • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/03/2008 4:31:55 PM

      100% agree with you, this is just another ploy to get into the White House. I really pray that he is stronger than that.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 06/02/2008 11:02:57 PM

    Hussein Obama has misrepresented himself and lied to the American people long enough. Hussein Obama says he resigned from his ???church??? but what about his beliefs in the Black Liberation Theology taught in this place and he was there for 20 LONG YEARS!!

    Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a Black Muslim from Nyangoma-Kogel, Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHIEST from Wichita, Kansas.

    Moderate Muslims can???t tolerate Obama. Michelle Obama says she???s not proud of her country. She???s waiting for Americans to elect her husband for President before she changes her claim that all Americans are racist. Hussein Obama is close friends with radical, racist disturbing people. This list includes William Ayers, Rev Wright, Rev Moss, Father Pfleger, Farrakhan and not to mention his shady deals with Rezko and Mayor Daley.

    Hussein???s parents met at the University of Hawaii. When Hussein Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya. His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia. When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia. Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta. He also spent two years in a Catholic school. Hussein takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim.

    He is quick to point out that, "He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school." Hussein Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that Hussein???s introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Hussein Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education. Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Hussein Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Hussein was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta. Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. The terrorists that crashed into the Twin Towers were once all enrolled in the study of Wahabism..just as Hussein Obama was!!

    Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public office in the United States, Hussein Obama claims to have found ???Jesus Christ??? in this Trinity United Church in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background.

    Be cautious concerning Obama's expected Presidential candidacy. The Muslims have said they plan on destroying the US from the inside out, what better way to start than at the highest level - through the President of the United States, one of their own!!!! ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office - he DID NOT use the Holy Bible, but instead the Kuran (Their equivalency to our Bible, but very different beliefs) Hussein also refuses to pledge allegiance to the USA flag.

    How can the DNC let this guy slip through the cracks? Hussein Obama is not electable.

    • Posted By: 4Democracy @ 06/03/2008 3:51:46 PM

      I think before you start mouthing off about Obama you should get your facts straight. It is painfully obvious you have not a clue of what you are talking about.

    • Posted By: metzlerd @ 06/03/2008 7:09:02 AM

      George,

      We can't stop your lies, but we can only take so much of them. Most of us now see your biggoted rants for what they are. 8 years is enough. You can stop pretending to be a Canadian now. As you go, please take your buddies Cheney, Rumsfeld, and McCain with you. I'm just too tired of your back handed morality to deal with it anymore.

  • Posted By: 4Democracy @ 06/03/2008 3:38:38 PM

    I find it more than just a bit ridiculous that the same people that are tired of Bush politics and have always been Democrat would actually vote for Bush Junior in November. If you look at your values and what is important to you it should be clear that McBush is the farthest person from them. Let go of your pride and realize that even if Obama isn't Clinton his values still match hers.

  • Posted By: ChrisLPNM @ 06/01/2008 8:16:23 PM

    Comment: TO ALL THE OBAMA SUPPORTERS (of which I am one) - it is time to stop poking the Clinton supporters and degrading their candidate. There are a lot of strong feelings on both sides. It looks like Obama is going to win the nomination - take a moment to think about how you would be feeling right now if the reverse were true.

    There is bound to be disappointment, anger and bitterness on the part of the Clinton supporters that their candidate will not win the nomination. It is completely natural and understandable given the long, hard battle fought by both candidates. And it is exactly how you would be feeling right now if the situation were reversed.

    There is also bound to be some venting and cries of unfairness, which will undoubtably make it to this blog. That is also completely natural and understandable.

    But I challenge every Obama supporter to make the blog related to this article different than the other blogs. Let's not insult the people who may chose to vent on this blog. Let's not insult Hillary Clinton anymore. Instead, let's reach out to Hillary and her supporters. Let's make sure we are clear that we respect her (which I certianly do) and we respect the campaign she ran. Let's give them time to come to terms with her eventual lose (I use the term eventual, because as of the time of this post, Obama has not won and I don't think we should disrepect Clinton and her supporters by claiming he has until he has the necessary number of delegates). Most importantly of all, let's come together and unite the party so we can beat McCain.

    A key theme of the Obama candidacy has been one of inclusion. It has also been a candidacy of grass-root efforts. Why not use this as a starting point for a grass-roots effort to heal the party. All of us - on both sides of this great debate - have said things that may not have been nice or fair. But it has to stop. Why not start by having it stop with us?

    If you agree with me, then let's try to do two things:

    (1) Copy this message as many times as you can and place it on other blogs.

    (2) If you see this message on a blog, then post a simple comment - "I, an Obama supporter, respect both Hillary Clinton and those that support her. I hope, in time, they will join with us to unite the party and defeat the Republicans in November"

    ChrisLPNM

    • Posted By: loriw @ 06/01/2008 8:27:56 PM

      good gesture but the problem is I can't respect Hillary because her husband was so disrespectful to this country when he was in the White House and his wife, Hillary, did nothing about it because she wanted his Friends of Bill votes now. Were you even born yet when Bill was having sex with Monica instead of managing our foreign policy and solving problems here in the US. No he was abusing his position in the White House to sexually harrass interns and generally treat women with disrespect. Hillary condoned it all so she could get the White House later. The thought of those two back in the White House makes my skin crawl.

      • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/02/2008 1:13:18 PM

        Hi Lori, you know that I agree with the majority of your posts. But why does the fact that Bill was caught cheating "This Time" bother you so much? I have always felt that this should have been a private family matter and absolutely none of my business. Hillary Clinton is a very smart woman, although from her recent behavior I believe the has tapped into her crazy gene a little too strongly LOL. She as with most women are clearly aware of who exactly their husbands are and what they are and not capable of. She has been dealing with Bill's weenie issues for years. Yet for whatever reason, she chose to remain married to him. It definitely would not have been my choice and to be honest there possibly would have been violence! But I do not question why she made that choice.

        I can honestly say that when another woman's husband cheats on her I do not ever feel disrespected.

        • Posted By: loriw @ 06/02/2008 6:17:18 PM

          Hi sjpersonal,
          I too respect your opinions. The difference in the Clinton affairs and affairs of others is that they, the Clintons, as President and First Lady, are the face of this nation to other nations. We elected them to represent us. In my opinion they need to be held to higher standards than others because by electing them we are saying here is the best we have to lead our country.

          • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/03/2008 2:36:26 PM

            Hey Lori,

            But don't you believe that they should be entitled to some sort of privacy? I guess in a way I am sort of a hypocrite when it comes to this because if there had been any type of abuse then I feel that we should be made aware. But infidelity, they may have had some sort of open marriage, my point is that she definitely did not seem too upset about any of his affairs. I know maybe she was just putting on the "FACE" for the public. But really Lori, just how many times can an itelligent woman stand to put on that face, if this behavior really did upset her?

      • Posted By: ChrisLPNM @ 06/01/2008 8:45:34 PM

        Yes, I was around, but you are missing the point. They are not going get into the White House, Obama will win the nomination. The question is, do you want Obama to win the Presidency? If you do, then we all need to reach out to the Clinton supporters and unite the party. If you think Obama can win while Clinton's supporters remain disenfranchised, then you're wrong. And you can't reach out to her supporters while disparaging their candidate. We have to stop living in the past - it is the future that is going to make a difference.

        • Posted By: loriw @ 06/01/2008 9:24:08 PM

          Personally, here is where I stand. Can't stand Hillary.
          Undecided about McCain and Obama. Biggest deciding factor will be VP running mates because let's face it....chances of McCain completing 4 years as president is slim so big chance the VP will be sucessor. Obama- great ideas but no funding to carry them out, concern about some questions I have about him that are yet to be answered (I know he's not a Muslim so save your breath).
          What I do know is that the Clintons are liars, cheats, thieves, and people who cross them have a habit of having really bad luck like getting shot, falling off balconies, car accidents, plane crashes, etc. Do I believe that if Obama were to make Hillary his VP something bad would happen to him too- you bet I do! The Clintons want back in the White House in the worst way and I think they are capable of anything-including what Hillary suggested in her Freudian slip about RFK.

          • Posted By: ChrisLPNM @ 06/01/2008 9:37:40 PM

            I guess I don't share your concerns - but I do agree that Hillary would not make a great candidate for VP. She would be too polarizing. If Obama is serious about working cooperatively with the Republicans (and I believe he is) I just don't see how he could do it with Clinton as his VP. But regardless of what you might think, she will still be a powerful force in the Senate. So I think it is in everyone's best interest to provide her with a means to bow out gracefully. And you are definitely right about McCain - the VP choice is going to be very important. I actually think McCain is a decent enough fellow. I'm just not sure if his current pandering to conservative right is real or once elected he'll move more towards the center. If it is the later, I could actually live with him as President - assuming I also liked his VP choice - although I still think Obama would be better.

            • Posted By: loriw @ 06/01/2008 9:59:21 PM

              Wish there were more people like you on these blogs and fewer like some others here....Concerned Canadian and Holy Roller could leave and I wouldn't miss them.

              • Posted By: loriw @ 06/01/2008 10:04:33 PM

                and I think i'd like to add daddy0159 to the list

                • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/02/2008 4:25:28 PM

                  Oh he is a pig! This is what he posted on another board about Sen. Obama's children

                  Posted By: daddyo159 @ 06/01/2008 4:11:40 PM
                  Comment: q; what do you get when you cross a crooked politican and a crooked lawyer ? A; Malia and Sasha
                  OBAMA !!!!!

                  • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/02/2008 8:40:04 PM

                    OMG! Those cute little girls. Shameful behavior. Totally uncalled for.

                  • Posted By: loriw @ 06/02/2008 6:19:51 PM

                    My computer was down and i'm getting caught up. Believe me if I find the post i will have a few words for him. DADDY0159 picking on little children is cowardly-pick on someone your own size!

              • Posted By: ChrisLPNM @ 06/01/2008 11:56:18 PM

                I couldn't agree more!

        • Posted By: daddyo159 @ 06/01/2008 8:56:34 PM

          write another one i'll fix it too !!!!!

      • Posted By: daddyo159 @ 06/01/2008 8:37:43 PM

        read mine i fixed it

  • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/02/2008 4:39:04 PM

    This question is for the Clinton supporters. Please explain to me why some of you, not all, feel that it is acceptable to use blackmail as a means to get your way. i.e. the sign that the woman in the articles photo is carrying, The angry rant from the christian Clinton supporters that is being played on MSN,

    I am really curious because in the end I thought it was more important for all of us to be democrats.

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 06/02/2008 5:45:22 PM

      No what more important is what best for the country not just the Democratic Party

      • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/03/2008 2:30:21 PM

        And you believe that McCain is best for the country since Clinton did not get the nomination????

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/02/2008 8:24:26 PM

      As for some Hillary supporters crossing over to the other side to vote for McCain? Well, you can understand that Hillary supporters are just as passionate about her as you are passionate about Obama. So there are alot of emotions Hillary supporters are dealing with as many feel she got the shaft when it came to the DNC non-subtlely being so bias for Obama. The same thing holds true to the main stream media. So with all the emotions Hillary supporters have comes many ways in which they will handle a loss of Hillary being the dem nom. Some will say that they will choose to stay home voting nite, some say, yeah, they will vote for McCain, so will end up writing in Hillarys name on the ballot, go Libertarian or who else knows what. Regardless, there will be a healing period of time for Hillary supporters. Some will do what they intended to do initially even when their emotions come back into check and some will have Obama grow on them to vote for him in the GE. Guess time will tell how Hillary supporters will react as time goes on as it leads into the fall.

      • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/03/2008 2:29:11 PM

        Ok, I agree with you about supporters being passionate about their candidates and I too am definitely guilty of , out of anger, stating that I would not vote for Clinton. But after calming down and evaluating my options I realized that I really didn't have a choice, I thought about writing in Obama's name if the election went to her. But in the end Obama and Clinton are rich, they would personally benefit from a Republican administration where as I am not and would be royally f@cked if the Republicans won. So that is where I was.

        In all honesty, my first choice was Ron Paul who is not the typical Republicans.

    • Posted By: two001 @ 06/02/2008 5:50:25 PM

      HERE???S THE TOLL-FREE NUMBER TO THE DNC! 1-877-336-7200
      Call and voice your displeasure with their selection of how this race is being manipulated. They (DNC) are the ones breaking up the Democratic Party no one else is to blame!
      Think before you vote for someone making promises of ???Hope and Change??? they cannot deliver.
      "A government big enough to give you everything you
      want, is big enough to take away everything you have." Thomas Jefferson
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwjnT4eJJvs Audacity of Barack Obama
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeC8BE-2T_k&NR=1 Audacity of Barack Obama 2
      Michelle Obama???s thesis read for yourself.
      http://www.scribd.com/doc/2305083/PrincetonEducated-Blacks-and-the-Black-Community
      ***VOTE & DONATE TO THE HILLARY CLINTON CAMPAIGN FOR PRESIDENT***

      ***GO HILLARY DO NOT QUIT OR GIVE UP, FIGHT TO THE END***


      http://rezkowatch.blogspot.com/search/label/Barack%20Obama

      • Posted By: metzlerd @ 06/03/2008 7:42:15 AM

        McCain is more of the same.
        Is there another choice? If so, that would be CHANGE.
        You either vote on the issues; or you vote on based on something else.
        If you're running around distributing lies about any candidate, then you don't care about the issues. All you care about is making sure your team wins no matter what the cost.
        So how much is your country worth to you? What is it you are willing to sell out for?

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/02/2008 7:56:51 PM

      In the end we were hoping we would have a candidate strong enough to win back the White House. Cant see Obama doing that based on the states he one and the college electoral votes associated with those states which dont/wont add up to 270 which is the magic number you need to win against McCain and Hillary surpassed that electoral magic number based on all of the bigs states, swings states--important states--that she won. That is the sad reality of it.

      • Posted By: metzlerd @ 06/03/2008 7:36:05 AM

        That isn't a good reason. You can't say you won't vote for Obama in the general election simply because he's not strong enough to win the general election. If everyone who voted for Hillary in the primary, were willing to vote for the candidate in the general who is most closely aligned to Hillary's stated positions, then Obama would win by a landslide.

        The real problem has to do with a football mentality in this country. You pick your team and stick with it. There are no issues; its just football. You don't say may the best team win. If your team has a rivalry with another team and doesn't make it to the playoffs, you root for the team that goes against that rival team, just because you want the rival team to lose. You don't root for fair play, you yell, "kick the QB's a$$."

        Our country is only as great as its citizens. If we as voters have no sense of honor or duty to do the right thing, then no problem will get solved. We'll just have empty pride about how our country was great because years ago our ancestors did the right thing. My question to you is what about now? After November when you go in to vote for McCain or Obama, did you vote for the right reasons?



  • Posted By: American Lacy @ 06/03/2008 2:30:12 PM

    I agree with the protesters, every vote should count. I didn't think the democrats could screw up after Bush handed them this election, but they have risen to the challenge. I have never voted republican, but there is always a first time. I will not vote for Obama.

  • Posted By: American Lacy @ 06/03/2008 2:26:26 PM

    I agree with the protesters, the whole thing was a crock. My protesting will be done in the voting booth and it will be the first time I have ever voted republican. I didn't think the democrats could screw things up after Bush, but they have done a royal job.

  • Posted By: TruthForward @ 06/03/2008 8:08:50 AM

    Heres why Clinton lost..

    Bigotry alone could not win the election.
    1. She had no plan to prevent those voters from going with McCain. Bigots may also have a tendency to be sexists.
    2. She lost the black vote that was key for the Clintons. And in this election race, that 40% or more of the black vote, would have put her over the top to win.
    3. She needed to couple the bigotry with other reasons to vote for her, without using her husband's resume or being vague about what she allegedly did for others.
    4. And she let the bigotry come from her own mouth. It made her look insecure.

    [Bad strategy. She can't blame others for everything.]

  • Posted By: mbailiff @ 06/01/2008 11:06:19 PM

    CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama said Saturday that he has resigned from the church where controversial sermons by his former pastor and other ministers created political headaches for his campaign.


    Sen. Barack Obama said he was resigning from the church "with some sadness."

    "We don't want to have to answer for everything that's stated in the church," the Democratic front-runner said. "We also don't want the church subjected to the scrutiny that a presidential campaign legitimately undergoes."

    Obama said he was resigning "with some sadness."

    "This is not a decision I come to lightly," he said. Watch Obama discuss departure »

    The resignation comes days after the Rev. Michael Pfleger, a visiting Catholic priest, mocked Obama's Democratic rival during a sermon at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, Illinois.

    In the sermon, Pfleger wipes his eyes with a handkerchief and suggests that Sen. Hillary Clinton wept because she thought that as a white person and the wife of a former president, she was entitled to the presidency.

    Pfleger is a Catholic priest at St. Sabina Roman Catholic Church on Chicago's southwest side. He is also a friend of Trinity's former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, from whom Obama distanced himself in April. Watch Pfleger mock Clinton »

    Obama said the Pfleger controversy made it clear that, as long as he remained a member of the Trinity congregation, remarks from the pulpit would be "imputed" to him, even if they conflicted with his personal views.


    Obama said he and his wife, Michelle, began discussing a departure from the church after Wright spoke at the National Press Club on April 28.

    During the appearance, Wright said that Obama had "distanced" himself the fiery pastor for political reasons.

    Wright, Obama's minister for about 20 years, drew unwanted attention for the campaign when videos of his fiery sermons surfaced.

    In the speeches, Wright suggested that the U.S. government may be responsible for the spread of AIDS in the black community and equated some American wartime activities to terrorism.

    Obama has said he was not present for the controversial sermons by Wright or Pfleger.

    His campaign condemned Pfleger's comments.

    • Posted By: ChrisLPNM @ 06/02/2008 12:04:12 AM

      All these stories about pastors are starting to drive me crazy. Both Obama and McCain have had some difficulties in this area. As far as I am concerned, it only strenghtens the importance and shows the foresight of the founding fathers that there should be a seperation between church and state.

      • Posted By: EKS25 @ 06/03/2008 3:06:38 AM

        They are annoying, but there is a minor difference, Obama had a 20 years close friendship with both Wright and Pfleger, McCain didn't even know Hagee, has never been in his church, just accepted his endorsement.

      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/02/2008 11:54:11 AM

        I agree.

  • Posted By: ggourde @ 06/01/2008 11:32:26 PM

    I don't understand how people seem to be overlooking one extremely important detail: Obama wasn't even on the ballot in Florida and Michigan. How can it possibly be fair?

    • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 06/02/2008 12:35:49 AM

      He WAS on the ballot in Fla. He withdrew his name in Mich. Clinton should not be penalized, by his foolishness.

      NOBAMA!!!

      • Posted By: TJ21 @ 06/02/2008 8:43:02 AM

        How is it foolishness? Everyone but her took their name off the ballot. Plus, even though she was the only person on the ballot, 45% of the people voting wanted someone else. No one seems to care about them. Michigan should have been a revote or no vote. Hillary saying she wants to count Michigan is pretty inaccurate. She wants to count HER votes in Michigan. And the fact that niether campaigned, you have to think a good chunk of her votes were based on the fact she is married to a former president.

        • Posted By: EKS25 @ 06/03/2008 3:01:35 AM

          Why don???t you look up the facts first? Here are the Michigan results, obviously not everyone took his name off:

          Candidate Vote % Delegates
          Hillary Rodham Clinton 328,309 55.2% 34.5
          Uncommitted 238,168 40.1 0
          Dennis J. Kucinich 21,715 3.7 0
          Christopher J. Dodd 3,845 0.6 0

          http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/states/MI.html

        • Posted By: fryman12 @ 06/02/2008 9:44:21 AM

          Well said!

      • Posted By: TruthForward @ 06/02/2008 9:40:07 AM

        Grow up. None of this is supposed to be for Clinton.

        It's supposed to be for the voters.

      • Posted By: fryman12 @ 06/02/2008 9:38:49 AM

        So did John Edwards and Joe Biden and a few others. "Uncommitted" received almost as much votes as Senator Clinton

  • Posted By: lamm01 @ 06/02/2008 3:09:04 PM

    I believe that the pundits are sadly mistaken when they state that Hillary supporters will turn to Obama in November. Let me tell you that everyone that I speak to in no way shape or form will vote for him. We are also going to actively vote out any elected official who supports him. So the DNC will be responsible for a democratic loss in November. You have been repeatedly warned so don't cry.....

    • Posted By: kshortSD @ 06/02/2008 7:45:27 PM

      Wow, you're like a bunch of brainwashed cult followers. Hey, get out your Nike's because I hear the Hale-Bopp Comet is going to swing around again...

      • Posted By: EKS25 @ 06/03/2008 2:43:55 AM

        If this comment doesn't convince the 18 million Hillary voters to support Obama I don't know what will.

    • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/02/2008 4:46:25 PM

      OH NO IT WILL BE THE CRAZY RANTING CLINTON SUPPORTERS WHO WILL BE THE CAUSE OF THAT IF IT SHOULD HAPPEN. Also know this you probably believe that you are setting her up for a win in 2012. Please!! If she sabotages his election, it will not be forgotten by his supporters, the DNC, the Senate etc. her political career will be dirt. She will not be able to get elected as a dog catcher.

      THIS I PROMISE YOU! "So you and the rest of the crazies need to man up. No one DID anything to Clinton she screwed up her campain all on her own.

  • Posted By: rainbow68 @ 06/01/2008 6:57:40 PM

    I agree. Ultimately, the party will unite and this time will seem like a bad dream.

    • Posted By: Sotally Tober @ 06/01/2008 7:30:32 PM

      Unite?? Hardly likely with the hateful Clinton supporters.

      • Posted By: EKS25 @ 06/03/2008 2:41:19 AM

        or the hateful Obama supporters..

    • Posted By: summer1216 @ 06/01/2008 7:38:31 PM

      Let's hope for the best. I would like to see a President who backs universal health care, and that means rallying around the Democratic candidate to win. Other countries provide superior health care to the general population, don't exclude people, and manage to pay for it. I hope we can, too.

  • Posted By: Sotally Tober @ 06/01/2008 7:28:20 PM

    We can all thank Hillary Clinton for the vitrolic statements her "sheep" are spewing. Hillary Clinton and Slick Willy know how this game is played. "Plant the seed" and others water and feed it. It's how Slick Willy ran his campaigns. If you're caught in a controversy..."deny, deny, deny." Hillary will/has done damage to the democratic party by continuing a useless and wasteful spending campaign to no where! She's taking this to the end to make sure the damage is irreversible---she'll sit back and gloat and say..."seeeee, I told you I was the better candidate!
    The Clinton's are disgraceful human beings. Where's their complete 2007 tax returns? Where's the list of donors to Slick Willy's Presidential Library in Arkansas? Where's the rest of the White House records for the First Lady? They are both untrustworthy and HAVE lied to the american public numberous times since their life at Arkansas----why the hell would we want them back in the White House? To steal more furniture, artwork and other artifacts??

    • Posted By: loriw @ 06/01/2008 7:32:29 PM

      While we are asking questions of them.....where's all the gifts the US received while the Clintons were in the White House that were supposed to remain in the White House but "disappeared" at the same time as the Clintons left the White House??

      • Posted By: EKS25 @ 06/02/2008 2:14:53 AM

        You probably can't remember but we didn't have deficit spending during the Clinton years.The economy was good, the jobless rate was the smallest ever. His approval rating was about 70-80%. '
        If Obama won't win it might be because of supporters like you. Who wants to belong to your club?

        • Posted By: loriw @ 06/02/2008 6:22:18 PM

          He was just lucky -riding the .com economy wave. A lot of what happens in a president's term had nothing to do with him as a leader.

          • Posted By: EKS25 @ 06/03/2008 2:40:36 AM

            If a lot what happens in his term has nothing to do with the president as a leader why is it so important that Obama is the next one? Maybe Hillary or McCain can get as lucky as Clinton was.

  • Posted By: krigden @ 06/02/2008 3:45:32 PM

    FL. and MI. dems need to own up to the fact that their party reps effed up hard. Florida as a whole should be suspended from the process this time around anyway for being morons the last time. Rules are rules and these two states broke 'em. Get out of the line, no votes for you!!!

    • Posted By: kshortSD @ 06/02/2008 7:42:19 PM

      Yes, it will be interesting to see how creative Florida can get in screwing up the next election...Maybe they'll hold a statewide contest for ideas...

      • Posted By: EKS25 @ 06/03/2008 2:32:13 AM

        And you are going to win in November without Florida an MI? Get real, the democrats need them and it is stupid to alienate somebody you need.

  • Posted By: cnn357 @ 06/02/2008 4:36:07 PM

    I think if those protesters would stop being so emotional and would listen to why we have this situation then they wouldnt be so quick to hand this over to the republicans.

    The FL governor and legislature is REPUBLICAN
    now they want to vote for a REPUBLICAN
    and it was the REPBULICANS that stole the election in 2000

    Hillary has done a great job of painting Obama as the bad man
    hes sexist, Hamas loves him and he made your votes not count
    Way to kneecap him in Florida for November

    Everything is going according to Hillary's plan (Clinton 2012)

    • Posted By: EKS25 @ 06/03/2008 2:29:52 AM

      Why would be Hillary's plan to become president in four years and not now?

  • Posted By: nana 2008 @ 06/02/2008 11:24:12 PM

    The assertion that somehow Obama cannot win the 270 electoral votes in the general elections is very much unfounded. There is no evidence that winning the primary votes translates into winning the electoral votes of that state. For starters, both Democrats and Republicans have winners in a state and both of them can say they wil win in November, but as we all know, only one of them wins eventually. That is, in the end, since they each won their respective primaries, they should always be in a tie and every election should be tied also. But they are not! You see, the reason that one wins over the other is usually due to his or her abilty to energize his or her base and also to appeal to Independents. Personally, I do not think that Senator Obama lacks in these fronts.
    Another argument is that he is unable to win the "white working class" votes. True, if you only consider white as rural inhabitants of Appalachia. We should just call a spade a spade. It is the same demographic that has( that is only those who would admit on camera) 18-20% not voting for Obama because of his race. He wins or is competitive in all other rural areas of the country. These Appalachian voters weren't going to vote for him anyway and must be pointed out that they weren't going to vote Democratic either. In fact, did you know that these voters went for Bush over Gore and Bush over Kerry - and might I add - by a bigger margin than what Obama seems to be losing by? And yet if Gore, or even perhaps Kerry, had nearly the black votes that Obama seems to be getting, he would be sitting in the White house. All I am saying is that if we are willing to ask Obama why he isn't winning the " white votes " , we should equally be willing to ask Mrs Clinton why she isn't winning the " black votes".
    The real situation is that, at the end of all primaries, someone is going to lose but depending on the circumstance, the loser's followers always go back to the winner ( recall how the Republicans were bitterly divided, calling eachother names and now all these former rivals are willing to be Mcsame's running mate). So, if you vote Mcsame over Obama because your little feelings or emotions are hurt, then you deserve whatever you get; just as those Appalachian voters who voted overwhemingly, despite the evidence and warnings not to, got what they deserved in Bush. And even in their current economic plight would still not vote for Obama or Hillary. Heck, they'd still vote for Bush if they had the choice. It is ironic how they then cry foul. Ultimately, there is just too much at stake to let one's personal egoes overrule common sense. But you know what they say about common sense; that it is common but not always common to common people!

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