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  • Posted By: Tony C. @ 06/04/2008 3:30:21 PM

    CELIDA:

    Hillary has no class.

    "SWEETIE" take another look at Michelle O. Looks like a $2 whor* who should give change!

    • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/05/2008 8:34:48 AM

      You are truly disgusting! I think it's best if we all ignore you.

    • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/04/2008 4:16:07 PM

      You sound as though you familiar with $2 Whore$, family members close friends etc. I am sure that over botoxed and shelacked Cindy McCaine is more your type. Good boy fiedo

    • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/04/2008 3:53:56 PM

      I hear your mother gives back change from quarters.

  • Posted By: jaymiller @ 06/04/2008 5:16:12 PM

    This whole board sounds like a bad episode of the O'Reilly Factor.

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/04/2008 5:27:18 PM

      So what you are really saying is that this board sounds like all the episodes of the O'Reilly Factor.

      • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/04/2008 5:33:00 PM

        You are one smug, sarcastic,mean blogger Zig.
        Oh. Sorry It's me typing. Sorry.

        • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/04/2008 5:39:09 PM

          Alvy, I can't hold a candle to you! I take a brute force approach, but you my friend, are a real artist. Of course, if we did not have so many ignorant, racist people on this blog, neither one of us would have much to write about.

          • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/04/2008 5:47:29 PM

            I would for just one day like to blog about issues. I'm not bad at that either - I just never get the chance. And the wonderful content you get snapping the mongers is priceless. Some just jump right over to the dark side complete with pointy-top hoodies.

            Keep up the good work. You are funny man with what I bet is a handsome wife.

            • Posted By: glimps @ 06/04/2008 6:08:56 PM

              Alvy,

              you & the rest of us have noticed that a whole lot of new Mccain Crats has surfaced......

              Begone Mccain Crats they should just call themselves Repblicans :-)

              • Posted By: Interested! @ 06/04/2008 7:19:46 PM

                How about Independents, or moderate Democrats? As for Roe v Wade, it won't be done away with because then the repubs wouldn't have anything to beat you dems over the head with as a moral issue.

                I believe in womens rights such as the right to use birth control regardless of what her husband wants. The right to say NO MORE. I don't agree with abortions, so that isn't a factor with me. I do believe in doing for others to a certain extent. Now, am I a moderate republican or am I moderate democrat? Or am I an independent? Not much difference any more. The far right and the far left have tsken over the two major political partys but it is becoming very apparent, the independents are growing in great numbers at a very rapid rate. And the sarcastic, hateful bloggers on these boards are the biggest reason for it happening. Remember your insensitive, immature, childish remarks when Obama goes back to IL as a junior senator in trouble to keep his seat in congress. Don't underestimate the hand that rocks the cradle, children!

                • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/04/2008 7:33:53 PM

                  Here's what an ass posts:

                  Posted By: Interested! @ 06/04/2008 18:41:56
                  Comment: Be patient, soon it will be about 'thunder butt'........

                  Your mother is a failure nazi.

                  • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/05/2008 8:25:29 AM

                    I saw that, Alvy. Very uncouth. But not to worry, revenge will be sweet in November. I know that you yourself are not vengeful

                • Posted By: glimps @ 06/04/2008 8:17:10 PM

                  oops "THE FAMOUS Bitter" word was mistyped.... LOL.

                • Posted By: glimps @ 06/04/2008 8:11:33 PM

                  I'm a female Dude ( Glad to hear that you agree with us) sad that you are leaving the party because you dont like the winner....

                  Oh !! well Mccain Crats are bette... off with the Repblicans ( since other issues seem to be a factor).. we Real BIG DEMOCRATIS DONT VOTE AGIANST ANOTHER DEMOCRAT...........

                • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/04/2008 7:51:01 PM

                  I'm thinking moderate doofus - but that's just me.

              • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/04/2008 6:24:15 PM

                It's the Chaos Execution.
                Fake everybody so the old guy wins. There are gonna be more lies than in a soap opera.
                It's hard to keep up with the monsters.

                Did you hear that you're 99?

                • Posted By: glimps @ 06/04/2008 8:07:44 PM

                  LOL !1 I resonded down below to that :-) didnt have much to say i'm shy :-)

            • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/04/2008 6:26:59 PM

              I agree completety. I use to blog under a different name. I was very respectful and always tried to make intelligent arguments supported by facts. That lasted about a week. Then I just got tired of all the irrational Hillary supporters who think their candidate got screwed and are ready to vote for McCain out of spite. A lot of them are women and I just cannot believe that they don't understand how badly McCain will set back women's rights if elected. Just the fact that he will probably have a chance to appoint two, perhaps even three, Supreme Court justices will mean Roe vs. Wade is going to get overturned. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. Don't they understand that? And then there is all the filthy racist comments from people like Concerned Canadian, Daddy0159, and HolyRoller. I know they are just trying to get people riled up - they are probably even Republicans - but after a week of their pointless and venomous rants, I was just got sick of it. So I hung up my keyboard as a serious blogger and just focused on bringing the idiots down a peg or two.

              • Posted By: Interested! @ 06/04/2008 7:10:19 PM

                And in doing so, you brought yourself down several steps......... congratulations.

                • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/04/2008 8:44:34 PM

                  Yep, but I'm still about a dozen steps about you. Go home amature.

                • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/04/2008 7:31:37 PM

                  Aren't you the bigot punk dude?

              • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/04/2008 6:57:43 PM

                I kept the same name, but just decided to try to make bigots cry and loose their minds.
                Working alright so far. Got a couple of death threats and requests to "take it outside".

                The whole Mc vice the black guy thing is horrific. If anyone had told me that there was such strong sentiment against something new I would not believe it. At least not to this extent.

                Funny thing is if any of the dumb bloggers were asked on a cultural IQ test or personality test if they would change their affiliation because of a persons color - none of them would answer yes. None. So, they know they are wrong - but are indifferent on a blog. If they were asked if they would change their belief system and sell out to something they didn't believe in - they would say no. All of them.

                They know they're stupid - they're just stuck. DNA maybe.
                So. More fun for us.

    • Posted By: Lakeman29 @ 06/04/2008 5:40:09 PM

      Wow, what planet are you from??? This is like an NBC blog...

  • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/04/2008 5:22:54 PM

    Before all you Hillary supporters blow a gasket, you should review this transcript from her strategy sessions. I think you will find it very enlightening:

    Coming out of Super Tuesday, I am going to win, time to coast ...

    Oops, wrong about that, maybe I shouldn't have ignored the cacuses ...

    Bill, for God's sake, will you just shut up ...

    I know, let's blame it on the media ...

    That's not working, maybe we should convince everyone that West Virgina is the most important state in the Presidential race ...

    That didn't work either, I know, let's get them to seat the Michigan and Florida voters, maybe no one will notice that I was fine with stripping those states of their delegates at the beginning of the nominating process or that I cheated in Michigan by leaving my name on the ballot ...

    Still no joy, I got it, let's make everyone believe that the delegates don't matter and it is all about the popular vote ...

    Oops, I didn't win the popular vote ...

    I just want to be President ... waaaaaa ... *stomp* *stomp*

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/04/2008 5:25:52 PM

      I know I already posted this, but I just had to post it again because it makes me laugh. Especially the part about I just want to be President ... waaaaa ... *stomp* *stomp*

      Sometimes I just crack myself up!

      • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/05/2008 8:22:57 AM

        Ziggy, I enjoyed it both times, thanx.

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 06/04/2008 7:51:43 PM

    Rumor has it Osama Bin Laden is putting his hand up to be Obama's running mate. That makes sense.
    They're both radicals and they're both Muslim.

    • Posted By: loriw @ 06/05/2008 2:16:43 AM

      No actually both his (osama"s) hands are up. the US military located his hiding place and sent Hillary there. Osama has now surrendered stating that type of torture is against the Geneva Convention.

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/04/2008 8:40:16 PM

      Rumor has it that you are an idiot ... oh wait, that's not a rumor, that's a fact.

  • Posted By: JohnPolitico @ 06/04/2008 3:04:07 PM

    FYI! McCain is not antother "Dubya".

    Dumya is a NeoConvict.

    McCain's a moderate Republican. Please do not insult him like that with all the McSame rhetoric.

    Botton line is Modz are taking back our Party. Moderate Repubs that is! Unfortunately, our Party got hijacked by the NeoCons over 7 years ago---AND NOW WE WANT IT BACK!

    GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

    • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/04/2008 3:45:54 PM

      If he lives long enough he may do it. Who's the VP though?

      • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/05/2008 2:07:59 AM

        If McCain is smart he'll have the obvious type of President needed. Someone who is strong from an economic perspective to get us out of this economical mess we are in, someone who is healthy, energetic and most of all, NOT real old.

  • Posted By: Tony C. @ 06/04/2008 3:02:09 PM

    delfairchild: I agree. I intend to write her name in. No way I'm voting for someone with lousy judgment, both personal and professional, someone who has played the race card from day one and denied it, and has the VAST majority of the black vote because they are voting strictly for him because he is a "brotha" or because Miss Mouth Winfrey told them to. Just what we need, another idiot sent to the White House by America's most apathetic, whiniest, uninvoled, irresponsible people.

    Hope they enjoy four more years of McBush!

    • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/04/2008 3:46:47 PM

      Hope your son gets drafted.

      • Posted By: Army4RangeR @ 06/04/2008 3:59:46 PM

        I would say I hope you get drafted, but WE don't take embacils....4F,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,YOU are a perfect example of what makes white Americans dislike the blacks of our country..YOU are vulgar, stupid and NEVER have and intellectual information in you STUPID blogs....Since you can't join the army...McDonald's is hiring janitors...the could NEVER trust you wif fire or food............4F...4F..GO rob bank or something more your "STYLE"....wif you hommies...................................YOU SUCK

        • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/04/2008 4:16:10 PM

          You say the Army doesn't take imbeciles, but then your screen name is Army4RangeR, sort of a contradiction, don't you think?

          • Posted By: Army4RangeR @ 06/04/2008 4:22:11 PM

            Well, let me restate the facts...NO BRANCH OF THE MILITARY takes 4F's....so you're out too
            HOPE YOU GET YOUR welfare check ......courtesy of the ignorant white Americans working theri butts off

            • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/05/2008 1:59:50 AM

              O.K. - thank you Mr. ignorant white American for my welfare check.

            • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/04/2008 4:47:22 PM

              When your mother died - did she celebrate getting away from her mistake? Maybe a last gasp belly-laugh?

        • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/04/2008 4:20:19 PM

          Suck? C'mon danger. That would be what you get from 84 year old sis.
          Hey. How many times did your mom hit you with that 10 lb wooden cross?

          But thanks for making this country great for the rest of us. Now just sit back in your recliner and rest. The nurse will bring you a bowl and a straw to eat your dinner later.

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/04/2008 4:14:41 PM

      I don't think they allow crayons at the polling stations.

  • Posted By: Tony C. @ 06/04/2008 3:04:42 PM

    TREETRACKER: Then don't read them. Fair and square my a**! Obama will find out just how fair come November! If he is as ignorant as I think he is and doesn't put Hillary on the ticket, I will enjoy watching him and my party get creamed. They just never learn! Looks like the light in the attic is permanently burned out!

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/05/2008 1:58:13 AM

      Considering your elevator doesn't make it to the top floor, how would you know what goes on in the attic?

  • Posted By: Concerned Canadian @ 06/04/2008 3:05:47 PM

    Hussein Obama has more baggage to handle than a 747 !! The GOP is gonna give this guy the royal "Hillary " treatment just like the malicious media and the DNC did.

    Start with his rise to the Senate from Chicago. A lot of nightmare stuff on Obama there.

    His upbringing. Born a Muslim...studied radical Islam in Indonesia..same beliefs the terrorists held who crashed those planes into the Twin Towers !!

    Obama has a circle of radical and disturbing friends that even Fidel Castro is envious of.

    His wife Michelle....well do I need to say more ?

    The wildest one....Obama says I became a pretend Christian when " I found Jesus Christ in the Trinity United Church from..hell "....this guy is pretty spun out.

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/05/2008 1:56:31 AM

      Interesting the George W Bush and his administration have actually killed more Americans in a pointless war in Iraq than the terrorists killed in New York. While I want Osama Bin Laden to go straight to hell, I seem to be having the same feels about ole GW.

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 06/04/2008 3:55:51 PM

      Obama isn't a muslim. His church is far more radical than any mosque

    • Posted By: KeriTail @ 06/04/2008 3:36:15 PM

      I can't believe idiots still believe that whole "He's a Muslim!" crap.... Who cares what religion he may or may not be, last I checked we had freedom of religion in this country. Congressman Keith Ellison was sworn in on the Quran but you don't hear much about it. He does his job like anyone else.

      Besides, you know there are Muslims in our military right? Muslim =/= terrorist.

  • Posted By: Lakeman29 @ 06/04/2008 4:06:01 PM

    to Tony C: It must be horrible to be SOO ANGRY AND FULL OF HATE... Please get help and I will pray for you.

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/05/2008 1:46:57 AM

      Alvy means a real plant - you know, a vegetable.

    • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/04/2008 4:11:32 PM

      He's a plant.

  • Posted By: rainbow68 @ 06/04/2008 4:15:40 PM

    Army4Ranger, first of all I assume you are in the military and thus have served to keep all of us safe - so Thank You. But I have to say, I really don't understand your rambling post about the black illegitimacy statistics. Senator Obama is a responsible man - a husband, a father. I really don't see your point.

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/05/2008 1:44:42 AM

      Actually no, he was never in the Army. But he did stop two teenagers from stealing an Orange Julius at the mall where he works.

  • Posted By: rainbow68 @ 06/04/2008 4:26:19 PM

    Sir, "Override the people's vote when the people are wrong"? Stalin would have loved that one. The voters have spoken. If this is ripped from Senator Obama, all hell will break loose. The party will lose in November. The African American vote, long faithful Democrats, will evaporate. Hillary is trying to destroy the party that made her rich because she doesn't like the results. She tragically overestimated her appeal and her following. She has also done irrepairable damage to her reputation and her legacy. The time for being magnanimous has come and gone.

    • Posted By: Core Democrat in Texas @ 06/04/2008 7:40:08 PM

      Some people may think it was ripped from Hillary and that all hell should break loose. I'll venture to say you think that the only side that has a right to unleash hell is yours?

      • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/05/2008 1:42:30 AM

        Duh ... of course we do.

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 06/04/2008 5:24:46 PM

      no it hasn't.

  • Posted By: Core Democrat in Texas @ 06/04/2008 4:26:44 PM

    The democratic nominee is the leader of the party; it's his job to unite the party.
    Neither Hillary nor her supporters have any obligation to "unite the party".
    "Unite the party" is just doubletalk for "vote for Obama".

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/05/2008 1:41:38 AM

      AAHH, another headache. First you say the race is not over until the convention, that Obama is not the nominee until the delegates vote. Then you say that it is his responsibility as the nominee to unite the party. Vision ... getting ... fuzzy ... I ... think ... I ... am ... going ... to ... pass ... *thud*

    • Posted By: cnn357 @ 06/04/2008 4:36:12 PM

      Please point out the stone tablet where that is written. There is no party leader, thats a foolish statement.
      Is it Gore? Pelosi? Obama? Reid? B. Clinton?
      There are the party leadership. Its all thier responsibility.

      Since when is our democracy about one person. Thats a sure way to fail every time

    • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/04/2008 4:30:12 PM

      Right! Vote Dem.

      All this time I thought you were exceptionally stupid. You're just really stupid. Good on ya'.

  • Posted By: rainbow68 @ 06/04/2008 4:32:54 PM

    Core Democrat: Your comment that it's not Hillary's job to unite the party is debatable, at best. It also is not her job to tear it into tiny little pieces because she's a sore loser. Watching her self-serving, awkward speech last night was just plain embarrassing. Judging from the news and the internet articles I've read today, she did not do herself a favor last night. If she wants to have a meltdown or breakdown, or whatever this is, she needs to do it in the privacy of her own home.

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 06/04/2008 5:23:32 PM

      the media and party elites are all Obamites. she'll come around, if people would take two minutes to stop trashing her

      • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/05/2008 1:38:18 AM

        Yes, yes, the media. Those rotten scoundrels. How dare they report she was the front runner going into the nomination process. It was all a huge conspiracy to lull her into a false sense of security, so Obama could crush her later. And then they had the audacity (get it, audacity - nudge nudge wink wink) to actually expose her half-truths and fuzzzy math. Oh, the media is just terrible - curse them all.

    • Posted By: Core Democrat in Texas @ 06/04/2008 7:36:03 PM

      People who hated Hillary (you and your media and internet sources) before, continued to hate her after last night.
      People who respect and admire Hillary, continue to respect and admire her after last night.
      You need to turn your attention to Obama, forget about what Hillary and her supporters think or do, it's not your concern.
      If you think she can waive some magic wand and make people who despise Obama suddenly decide to support him, you are simply wrong. Their feelings about Obama are not determined by whatever Hillary might say or do.

      • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/05/2008 1:34:25 AM

        I was kind of hoping she could waive her magic wand and make you go away.

    • Posted By: Core Democrat in Texas @ 06/04/2008 7:44:54 PM

      Hey, RainbowBrite, you're the guy in the post below who threatened to unleash hell if Obama doesn't get the nomination. So I guess it's ok for hm to "rip the party to shreds" as you put it? Shoe doesn't fit when it's on the other foot?

      • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/04/2008 7:59:38 PM

        Or in your case, when it is in your mouth. Sometimes it is so easy!

  • Posted By: rainbow68 @ 06/04/2008 4:02:36 PM

    Oh, my gosh, are you kidding me? "All the way to Denver"? Enough already. It's over, it's over. Nominee Obama, please feel free to assemble the administration of your choosing. I understand Caroline Kennedy will be helping in the choice of the veep. This is an awesome resource for him. Winners get to call the shots. Bitter, sourpuss losers don't. If this sound harsh, I'm sorry. But enough's enough.

    • Posted By: dieharddem @ 06/04/2008 5:04:31 PM

      It is time to concede the win to Obama. But this win couldn't have happened without the calculated stradegy of the DNC. Disregard of MI and FL until so late in the game and again clever tactics used to divide the delecates and still assuring Hillary no way to catch up and trully even out the near tie primary will haunt the DNC all the way to the Fall. Should Obama lose what is consider a sure foot into the White House don't blame Hillary and her supporters. The blame lies with the DNC and their rules and yes they controlled the popular vote just like the Repubicans. No I don't hold Obama responsible for this but he sure played it for all it's worth.

      • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/05/2008 1:36:57 AM

        I totally agree. The DNC totally screwed up the entire primary process and enforced their bias to nominate Obama. The MainStreamMedia also did a huge disservice to us Americans also.

  • Posted By: ike2000 @ 06/04/2008 4:41:09 PM

    I and my army of supporters will boycott Obama if he dares give Clinton the VP position. She deserves nothing and will go a long way to ruin his presidency. I smell rat in the Clintons. They are a bunch of zealous goons, who will do anything to cling to power ... maybe to gain immunity to hide their dirty laundries. Obama, YOU NEED TO BE A MAN AND SAY a RESOUNDING "NO!" to those harlots.

    • Posted By: Core Democrat in Texas @ 06/04/2008 5:17:20 PM

      I will join Ike in his boycott of Obama if he gives Hillary the vp slot, and I encourage other Hillary supporters to join Ike's boycott.

      • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/04/2008 5:57:39 PM

        So you wouldn't even vote for Obama if your candidate accepted the VP slot. Which in turn means you were never really for Hillary, just against Obama. Now it comes out.

        • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/04/2008 6:09:30 PM

          Yeah, that definitely sounds like the case. They are OUTED now.

          • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/05/2008 1:20:48 AM

            The Party hasn't changed, you have. The platform is more of less the same, but because Hillary didn't win, you're going to stomp off and vote for McCain. Why? Because a few faceless bloggers hurt your feelings. Forget about Iraq and the economy - the important thing is that you get back at all those evil bloggers. That is the end of the story.

          • Posted By: Interested! @ 06/04/2008 8:23:25 PM

            Do you really believe that or is it only a way to get past the fact that almost half the democrats don't think Obama is qualified, capable of leading this nation? I am a democrat, I have always been a democrat. I am more of an Independent at this point. I haven't changed but my party has changed so much I can't actually identify with most of them at this time.

            I believe you are looking for excuses as to why Obama doesn't measure up to what we believe is necessary to lead our country. One either has it or one doesn't and at this point over half think he does but that half canNOT put him in the White House.

            I am always cautious when one wants to change my life. Change is not always good. In this case, I think correcting the wrongs would be a better place to start. One has to understand where they have been before they can know where they are going. Obama hasn't been much of anyplace in government. End of Story.

          • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/04/2008 7:01:10 PM

            My, what a witty comeback ... next time, it would even be wittier if it made sense.

        • Posted By: Core Democrat in Texas @ 06/04/2008 7:07:06 PM

          I am both --- "for Hillary" and "against Obama". But the two positions are independent of one another.
          I have been for Hillary since 2007 (or longer), but sorta liked Obama since 2004.
          I have been against Obama since January 2008 when I began to learn more about him.

          • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/05/2008 1:15:55 AM

            Sometimes you make my head hurt. You say you are for Clinton but against Obama and they are mutually exclusive. But if Clinton and Obama are on the same ticket, then what are you (besides an idiot - I mean). Your post above says not to vote for them, which means you hate Obama more than you like Clinton. Now do you see how they can't be mutually exclusive. Hello? Hello?

      • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/04/2008 6:04:21 PM

        Okay, you and Ike are two republicans in democratic clothing. Otherwise why wouldnt you want Hillary to fill the VP role? I think she is way too over qualified for that role and doesnt want it anyways, but maybe she is looking to fill another role in Obamas cabinet if he makes it to the white house.

        • Posted By: Core Democrat in Texas @ 06/04/2008 7:03:49 PM

          The vp spot is beneath her -- she has more power in the Senate.
          I don't intend to vote for Obama regardless of who is the vp.
          So why not join Ike's boycott. His reason is that he hates Hillary, but end result is the same.

          • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/04/2008 7:25:46 PM

            Well I agree that she is overqualified for the VP position. But if she wants it who are we to nix it. Ill support her decision whatever it turns out to be the case.

    • Posted By: Interested! @ 06/04/2008 8:18:06 PM

      I doubt Clinton would accept the second position. She has other places to go and other things to do. She could be a power to be reconned with as had of the Senate. That is where I want her to land. I want Obama to look at her and understand he is going to have to deal with her one way or another and we will see who gets what when. As for Polosi, she is a done deal. I doubt she will be around much longer. She isn't much more of a leader than Reid is.

      Hillary has half of the voters in the Democrat party. If those voters are not of any importance wto Obama, to his supporters, we will sure take the advice given on this board and go else whrere.

      My thoughts are.... I would rather vote for the devil I know than the devil I don't know. Makes McCain look a little better. Let McCain deal with Hillary in the Senate.

      • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/05/2008 1:11:45 AM

        Let me get this straight - first you Hillary supporters claim Obama stole all of Clinton's ideas - because their platforms were 90% identical. But now that your candidate didn't win, you're going to vote for McCain, whose platform is radically different from Obama's - and by extention and your own admission - radically different from Clintons. And then you wonder why we are calling you idiots.

  • Posted By: J.Richter @ 06/04/2008 4:42:13 PM

    Sadly, this blog has degenerated to a hate blog. I used to blog here and there used to be informed and factual debates both contrary and supportive of candiddates.

    Now it is not about th candidates. IT is now about all the vitrial and hatred folks have within themselves and this event and other's opinions giving them an opportunity to vent it.

    Tony C, Army4Ranger, Lakeman, etc. I dont know which comment was most dismaying. Someone even went as far as deciding that Fr. Pflegger was black and another said because of one's comment is why whites hate blacks as if that in itself is not racist (there is no excuse for generalizing to a group based on one, few or even many no matter how bad the one is). There are stupid opinions and bad acts from whites can I now say this is why whites hate whites. Everyone is an individual.

    This is supposed to be about choosing a president which does affect everyone's lives as we have seen in the past eight years. But no! We make it about us and our internal hatred borne by upbringing, environment, or both. And yes to an extent all sides are getting into it and none has an excuse. Blacks should refrain from responding to baiting or starting it because they have an opportunity to show they can be kind and resilient and eventually reasoning will prevail as some hate seekers will begin to feel silly when no one responds in kind and they leave the computer after many hours only to go buy gas at $4 and then realize life is bigger than projecting hate. Similarly, whites should refrain from either baiting or responding. I know this whole racist direction is atttractive to some but really it does nothing. Whites really have nothing to fear anyway as Barack would be surrounded by 99 white lawmakers assuming the worst of the actually false emails about him are even close to true.

    And yes it is possible to have a pastor oer even Dad who has one view about something and one has an opposite one. The proof should be in each person's record and statement. As for rumors - there is a video that Michelle said this or that - why not wait patiently to see it before letting your stomach boil unless it was really never about that. At the end Barack is both white and black and was actually raised almost exclusively white - so no one has any reason to claim him as an opportunity to project their hate - and he has NEVER said anything hate-based so there is no excuse.

    • Posted By: Interested! @ 06/04/2008 8:13:39 PM

      Obama looks to himself as black. He married black. His children are considered black. It doesn't seem to mean much that he was mostly raised by whites. It is about how he sees himself. If he sees himself as black, apparently he does, then who is to claim different. And what difference doew it make anyway? The point of concern I have with him is that he lacks the experience, the ability to run this country. We have already gone through seven plus years of on the job training. and OUR country is in a MESS. So do we want more of the same" Not ME!

      And why hasn't Trinity been fined for using their pulpit as a political tool? Thought that would get the tax exemption removed or again, is there different standards for a black church and a white church? Shut the church down, shut the hate monering down, close the doors for ever. That way we won't have to worry about who the guest speaker will be, or what is said in that church. And to call it a church, is an oxymoron. It is a political hall of hate. End of Story.

      • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/05/2008 1:06:35 AM

        That's a very good question, why don't you put it to Pat Robertson.

    • Posted By: Lakeman29 @ 06/04/2008 5:12:25 PM

      Comment: to J.Richter: Did you EVEN read my posts? You do not state one of my comments but you lump me in with others that have hateful posts. Could that be because you are a hater of people that beleive in God almighty? Or is it because I support Hillary? Or is it because YOU THINK I AM WHITE (would be my guess)??? I guess you would be more comfortable with an atheist or person of color (of which I love). I have not used hateful speech and have voiced concern for my attackers, of which YOU are one. I will pray for you...

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/04/2008 4:47:06 PM

      Excellent post - and I mean that sincerely. I realize I am part of the problem, but I try to limit my harrassment to those who are hateful or bitter.

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 06/04/2008 4:42:35 PM

    What is this concept that she offers in favor of her owning 18 million votes and taking a few days to decide how to spend them? She is not the candidate. The votes have been spent. They are not hers any longer. They belong to the victor. Unless, of course, she wishes to try and deprive him of those votes before they get cool. I swear it's a plot. It makes no other sense. The longer she hangs onto them, the more of them that the candidate will lose. It's diabolic. She has already started her 2012 campaign. Twenty million dollars behind.

    • Posted By: davidgergen @ 06/04/2008 6:13:46 PM

      "it's a plot...the longer she holds on to them...it's diabolical." Haha. What it is is less than 24 hours after she won her last primary. And by the way, those votes don't "belong to the victor". Not in any way. Those are and always will be Senator Clinton votes. Hers and hers alone. And the only way he becomes victorious is if he gets those voters to vote for him. And yet he continues to allow those voters to see their candidate being attacked by the MSM while he does nothing. How he is allowing her to be treated in defeat reflects directly on his character and judgment. You know those things he's touted from day one? Clinton supporters continue to see empty words. The loser can lose only as gracefully as the winner wins. He (and his surrogates/dnc/msm'democratic party) have shown how much they really care about Senator Clinton and her supporters. What madness it is to believe that Clinton supporters are going to forget this after decades of bashing. Senator Clinton is doing what her supporters want her to do - letting them see who Obama really is and what the Democratic Party has become. Letting them see just how much they matter to Obama and the Party. And thus far it appears very little. "Party unity" is of no interest to them or they would be respectful for once. They haven't been. Obama was given a window to demonstrate who he is as the democratic nominee and what he will become. And it appears nothing more than a speaker of empty words of pander. There is absolutely no reason for him to allow Sen Clinton to be attacked in the media. He is the presumptive nominee. So why is he allowing it to continue? Why hasn't he said enough - let her have time and space? Why hasn't he called off the dogs? All it has done is reaffirm what Clinton supporters have seen since day one. Just how interested is he in her voters?

      • Posted By: Interested! @ 06/04/2008 8:04:32 PM

        Alvy, I don't think facts need rationalizing. I certainly agree that Obama needs to step up to the plate IF he is interested in her votes. It does reflect badly on Obama that he hasn't stopped the smary attitude of the press and his bloggers. I really think Obama thinks he can get 'there' without the support of Hillarys voters. I am willing to stand back and watch. But I will vote democrat the rest of the ticket.

        BTW, we are the DEMOCRAT party. Supposedly we are democratic democrat party but we are NOT the democrat(ic) party.

        Now as for Hillary expecting us to all go over to the Obama camp? That could be a stretch of ones imagination. Regardless of

        Remember Jesse Jackson went all the way to the convention prior to endorsing. Different standards? Why?

        I will NOT vote for Obama simply because he is showing his true colors...... finally. End of story.

        • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/05/2008 1:04:43 AM

          See, that's where you are wrong. Obama called me up this very evening and said Zig, you gotta take it easy on these poor folks. So I thought about it for a while, but decided I was having too much fun. So hate me, not Obama.

      • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/04/2008 6:59:35 PM

        Attacked by the media? You mean having her half-truths and fuzzy math exposed for farce that it was? Yeah, I supposed she was attacked.

      • Posted By: loriw @ 06/04/2008 6:41:33 PM

        Hillary is holding her delegates hostage until she is offered her demands.
        Senator Obama, PLEASE DO NOT NEGOTIATE WITH TERRORISTS!!!!!

      • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/04/2008 6:26:37 PM

        Rationalizing sometimes makes it true. Right?

    • Posted By: Interested! @ 06/04/2008 7:47:30 PM

      You seem to think that just because we are Hillary supporters that we will automatically choose to vote democrat straight ticket. You could be VERY wrong. I for one don't plan to automatically decide to vote Obama. My opinion of his abilities, his baggage, hasn't changed. I would rather vote for the devil I know than the devil I don't know..... so McCain looks a lot better today than yesterday at this time. And the insults, on these boards does not exactly cause me to want to join in with such supposedly Obama supporters. Thanks but no thanks. You can do it yourself. Good luck..... LOL

      • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/05/2008 1:01:30 AM

        And before Hillary ran, you were ... hmmm, a democrat? That's why the Obama supporters keep putting knots on your head. It's the Party, stupid.

  • Posted By: DadooS @ 06/04/2008 4:46:14 PM

    To paraphrase former Canadian prime minister Pierre Trudeau, having Hillary as VP would be like "sleeping with an elephant" for Obama.

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/05/2008 12:59:20 AM

      Yeah, but think of the image - Hillary, Bill, Obama, and Michelle all sleeping in the same bed each night. Sort of like the Waltons.

  • Posted By: rainbow68 @ 06/04/2008 4:46:56 PM

    I believe the vast, vast majority of Clinton supporters will vote for Obama. I also believe Caroline Kennedy will NEVER support HIllary being veep. (She is on a 3 member panel recommending vice presidential choices). I think this will all come out in the wash and the party will unify, I really do.

    • Posted By: Interested! @ 06/04/2008 7:43:20 PM

      I am sorry, but I don't think the Hillary supporters will support Obama in any numbers. Not enough to put him over. Too much venom between the two.... so you see, although Obama won the nomination, making history, he won't make the ultimate goal in history. Instead of trying to bring the Hillary supporters into the mix, blogs such as this continue to demean, degrade Hillary. Such foolish actions proves the shallowness of the Obama supporters. Obama NEEDS Hillarys supporters to get elected. Keep up the insults, and Obama won't make it ..... and it will be the fault of such as I have read on this board. Divide and you fail. Seems you all can't handle success.

      • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/05/2008 12:57:58 AM

        Of course you're right, the three dozen Hillary supporters on this blog are going to make all the difference.

    • Posted By: paulte @ 06/04/2008 5:01:23 PM

      Obama is smart! Choosing Caroline Kennedy to be on the VP search committee after Hillary's RFK assassination remark! I must admit I'm impressed. Must be the white side of the brain!

      • Posted By: loriw @ 06/04/2008 6:39:53 PM

        good point! What a dis to Hillary. Score.......

      • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/04/2008 5:07:03 PM

        Way to be a nazi faulty.

    • Posted By: raynasmama @ 06/04/2008 5:17:32 PM

      rainbow,
      I think you should really think again. There are to many people out there who really do feel that Obama is not the right person, not qualified to run this country. Just because he is so laid back and people think he is going to change this country is not the "god's tell all truth". I myself feel that he just showed us recently how far "he" would go to get this nomination. The man gave up his church and the people he had loved and respected for over 20 years because of things that were said. Does that show me what kind of commitment he would have for this country. If the going got tough, well he would turn around and say, okay we don't want any trouble so we will do it your way. Not good enough for me and I don't think it is good enough for a lot of other democrats out there. So you go ahead and think your way and there are plenty of others that will think theirs.

      • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/04/2008 5:35:20 PM

        And there all from the Appalachians.

  • Posted By: chrystal17 @ 06/04/2008 2:54:35 AM

    Please people, act like human beings. Hillary lost and shes upset, so... Maybe she should throw a fit or maybe shed some more tears. Whatever, Hillbillary didnt make it this time. i
    am looking forward to changes!!!!

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/04/2008 3:15:39 AM

      What's that saying? Be careful of what you ask for . . . .

      • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/04/2008 3:18:39 AM

        . . . or is it Be Careful for what you WISH for. ? Yeah, I think that is the saying.

        • Posted By: hotstuff @ 06/04/2008 9:03:25 AM

          We know exactly what we want.
          It´s definitely NOT Smearnews!!

          • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/05/2008 12:57:39 AM

            Lol. Sounds like someone has a lot of built up anger in them. I feel sorry for you.

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