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  • Posted By: vakosh @ 06/05/2008 5:44:18 PM

    Yeah ... I hope he doesn't offer it and if he does I hope she doesn't take it. She is much too smart to be tangled up with him. Stay in the senate and ride out the storm ... better days are coming!!!!

  • Posted By: chindognyc @ 06/05/2008 3:18:45 PM

    Always remember ladies, a vote for McCain, is a vote against Roe v Wade. McCain already said that he will work to have that vote overturned. This will be a slap in the face of those women who are so angry, they will rather vote for McCain. Once McCain becomes President and Roe v Wade is overturned, then you will hear these same ladies complain. Open your minds ladies.

    • Posted By: tracyruns262@netscape.net @ 06/05/2008 4:28:54 PM

      SO???

      A smart woman doesn't need Roe V Wade in the first place!

      • Posted By: zbaby2 @ 06/05/2008 5:40:09 PM

        Women should have the right to chose. The last time abortion was illegal women had to get painful underground abortions. I dont want anyone to tell me how to live my life. Especially a government that has sanctioned the killing of thousands of our boys in Iraq over a phony war.

  • Posted By: rainbow68 @ 06/05/2008 5:30:57 PM

    I think we will see Hillary having less and less of a say-so in the coming days. Obama's silence is speaking volumes.

  • Posted By: ckwan4 @ 06/05/2008 12:44:46 PM

    "Posted By: Romulus @ 06/05/2008 12:39:24 PM
    Comment: ...I also wonder what happend to the idea of having an internal locus of control. In other words, I control the world; the world doesn't control me. It seems like so many politicians want to blame their failures on everyone else and accept glory as their own doing. I have a lot of respect for John Edwards for his position on Iraq. Although I didn't agree with his initial vote, I am glad that he took accountability for his own actions. Good for him. Hopefully, with Obama in office and Edwards as his attorney general he they will be able to help create an environment where government won't be so scared to admit mistakes and the public won't be so quick to pounce.

    (Sorry, just trying to bring a little bit of optimism back here.)"

    Keep on day-dreaming until November 4, 2008. Obama will lose 49 states on that day.



    • Posted By: Hawaii08 @ 06/05/2008 1:04:06 PM

      Yep, and it will be The Clintons fault..... not!

      • Posted By: Luridmoon @ 06/05/2008 5:30:28 PM

        No, it will be your fault, big mouth

    • Posted By: Pherdnut @ 06/05/2008 12:56:27 PM

      ckwan why do you bother to post but not back your claims up with anything whatsoever. While it doesn't mean a whole lot polls are favoring Obama right now. I came here from Digg prepared to criticize yet another pundit's failure to properly gauge the situation but I'd say he's nailed it. The Bush administration is a pariah right now and Hillary's own despicable similarities to GW (arrogance, refusal to acknowledge mistakes, divisive politics, etc...) are what ultimately cost her the nomination. McCain is already making all the same mistakes by reacting to Obama rather than attempting to make a case for himself. The guy has had a free ride for like six months now and he still hasn't garnered a lead over either democrat in the polls? That's pathetic. What makes you think the GOP is going to clinch 49 states with Obama's aisle-crossing/moderate draw and the libertarians nipping at McCain's heels?

  • Posted By: vakosh @ 06/05/2008 3:36:20 PM

    5 Reasons:
    1. It was hijacked
    2. It was hijacked
    3. It was hijacked
    4. It was hijacked
    5. It was hijacked

    I can't wait to see all the supers lose their jobs, one by ugly one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Posted By: jonymc @ 06/05/2008 5:28:19 PM

      Ummm, I don't think so... The president has the power, not the loser from New York. The supers who lose their jobs might be the ones in the DNC but most of them are elected officials. They supported the WINNER! Hello?

  • Posted By: rainbow68 @ 06/05/2008 5:26:26 PM

    I agree with C. that Hillary would enjoy Secretary of Health and Human Services. Health care has always been her passion.

  • Posted By: rainbow68 @ 06/05/2008 5:21:00 PM

    I think that Hillary has burned so many bridges this time that even if Obama were to lose (unlikely) she would be unsuccessful in 2012.

  • Posted By: pixiepunk @ 06/05/2008 12:38:33 PM

    Jonathan Alder - Keith Oblerman groupie! You are a prime example of a white-male tabloid journalist who helped Obama win and Clinton lose. Why don't you give that as one of the reasons - because it is a big one. You all would rather elect an experienced man than a woman who would have made a great president. Come up with all the excuses you want - she still got half the vote!

    • Posted By: Luridmoon @ 06/05/2008 5:20:34 PM

      pixie, do you wear birkenstocks?

    • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/05/2008 1:29:49 PM

      She got the smaller half stupid. Now be a nice country-punk and go paint your fingernails black. That color you love so much.

    • Posted By: chindognyc @ 06/05/2008 12:59:43 PM

      I don't think we care if you don't vote for Obama. You go right ahead and vote for McCain. You will already loose one of your rights. Roe v Wade. You sound like one of the people Hillary said is voting for her.

      • Posted By: pixiepunk @ 06/05/2008 1:22:22 PM

        Idiot. I'm not voting for Obama because I think he is unqualified for the job. The same reason I didn't support him in the primary. Personally, I like him and think he's a great guy. McCain is far more qualitied to run this country than Obama any day, any time. Democrats will be controlling congress so there will be a balance of power if McCain wins.

  • Posted By: C. MacLean @ 06/05/2008 5:20:25 PM

    Not a bad analysis.

    Oama has gained so much experience in this gutter fight, even Rove won't be able to help McCain - John is toast.

    And the smartest thing Hilary could do is NOT accept the VP nomination if Obama is foolish enough to offer it to her. If she is ever to have a political future in the national arena, she needs to establish it once and for all ON HER OWN, without any connection to Obama or Bill, or any other MALE.

    If she is smart, she will concede graciously, declare publicly that she would prefer NOT to be on the ticket, and hold out for either Secretary of Health and Human Services, something she would be very good at, or Secretary of State, something she would have to work hard to be good at but coud be good at, and that would establish her credentials beyond a shadow of a doubt.

  • Posted By: chindognyc @ 06/05/2008 12:35:35 PM

    McCain's feelings about Roe v Wade is just the first step to women loosing everything that they fought for. Remember that if you do decide to vote for McCain. If you say you don't care, then I proved my point about how you feel about a black man as President.

    • Posted By: Luridmoon @ 06/05/2008 5:18:26 PM

      not every woman agrees with abortion.

  • Posted By: Iakavous @ 06/05/2008 12:30:06 PM

    Yeeeaaahhh, it's all the medias fault. GOD forbid Hillary ran a crappy campaign, why thats unthinkable. By her own words "This will be over by Feb. 5th"......yeah those darn media guys....all their fault......who is that recent president who couldn't admit mistakes and take responsibility for his actions....hhmmm who was that.....oh well guess its not important, not like he destroyed our standing in the world, our economy, our army, our demestic job outlook, etc.....yeah lets get another one of those guys... thats what we need...

    • Posted By: TheWonton @ 06/05/2008 12:48:05 PM

      Iakavous are you illiterate? The article didn't blame the media as much as it blamed her campaigning policies for being clumsy and inept. Learn to use proper punctuation if you ever feel like coming off as intelligent. Lord knows, you're another George W. Bush in the making... ignoring whatever is presented to you and blindly forging on with your point regardless of coherence or worth.

      • Posted By: Luridmoon @ 06/05/2008 5:17:21 PM

        I believe this guy was commenting on previous posts... like our know it all friend, Hawaii.

      • Posted By: Luridmoon @ 06/05/2008 5:15:22 PM

        dude, this guy was talking about pervious posts, like our know it all friend, Hawaii, Why are you so abrasive?

      • Posted By: flamingo123 @ 06/05/2008 4:35:40 PM

        Superdelegates gave the nomination to Obama. Let's see if superdelegates count on general election.

  • Posted By: lesomers @ 06/05/2008 3:07:14 PM

    I don't think people are racist if they don't choose Obama, no more than I think they are sexist if they don't choose HIllary. Fact is that we all chose based on who represented what we wanted the most. I'm a white woman, and I would never vote for HRC, because I don't like her or what she represents. Does that mean she's been a bad senator? No, but I don't want her being the face of my country. I'm one of those "hard-working white Americans" who supposedly love her so much, and I find it so insulting that she insinuates that only white Americans are hard-working.;

    Over and over, uneducated people gave her their vote. I can't personally imagine how tired I would get of the media telling me that the bulk of people voting for this woman were uneducated. Why didn't anyone just come out and say "too stupid to know any better"?

    I'm not uneducated, but I don't know everything. What I do know is that the idea of a woman in the White House is soooooooooooo overdue, and I'm presonally ashamed that we still haven't had one. I would vote for a woman in the White House any day........well, almost any day. Unless that woman was HRC, or someone else like her, with whom I take such exception. She's lied, cheated, manipulated, played the victim, cried, and done everything she could think of to get herself more and more power. If I wanted to be treated like that, I'd vote Republican, thanks.


    For the first time since I registered to vote at 18, this year I changed my registration to Democrat. I'll vote for Obama, I'll continue to give him money (as much as I legally can, again, for the first time ever), and I'll pray he's leading our country in 7 months. Anyone who has been hurt by the Bush regime would be smart to do the same.

    Yes, HRC supporters are hurt and disappointed, and I get that. Feel free to rest for a while, get your bearings....but in November, remember, he may not have been your favorite between those two, but there's no way if you supported her and her ideals that you could support McCain's ideals over Obama's, other than bitterness and jealousy.

    Don't let the Republicans do that to us. We're better than that, and this is our country, and it's time we took it back!

    • Posted By: willowbuffyslayer @ 06/05/2008 5:15:48 PM

      Wow, I think this is the best comment on here. Good job!!! I agree 100%.

    • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 06/05/2008 3:41:17 PM

      i understand you being hurt by the bush adm. and i can see how your not happy by hillary but i've found that obama is somewhat like hillary except on a smaller scale i've read how he knocked peole out of running in chicago instead of running the race fair and square and letting the voters choose who they wanted by him being the only one on the ballot of course he would be the only choice.so it seems unfair but thats chicago politics anyway the reason i'm not going to vote for him is not because i'm racist but because he's untested in the way a country needs to be ran yeah i agree he has good ideas. but so do i and i can say i'm not able to run this country ! its the only problem he has but its a big one ..... after all this country is in a mess and i just can't see some one with so little experiance as able to do the job at hand.. after all he is a jr senator and a community organizer right ???how does that qualify him to run and repair this country ?

      • Posted By: tracyruns262@netscape.net @ 06/05/2008 4:31:57 PM

        AMEN!.

    • Posted By: isis5632 @ 06/05/2008 3:31:26 PM

      Signs of intelligence on earth...

    • Posted By: joe_mama @ 06/05/2008 3:17:08 PM

      will you have my children?

  • Posted By: Stanford @ 06/05/2008 12:26:16 PM

    If Hillary had been against the war from the beginning, all the rest would not have mattered. She would have put Obama away in the early stages.

    • Posted By: Micky Marsh @ 06/05/2008 12:51:25 PM

      Voting for the war is not the reason why Senator Cliton lost. The war wasn't a bad war its how much the war was mis-handled, again lack of organization and decisiveness. She lost because there were periods in her life when she was at the wrong place at the wrong time.

      • Posted By: Luridmoon @ 06/05/2008 5:09:57 PM

        This war isn't a bad war??????? This is the worst war as it was instigated on BOLD FACED LIES issued by the defense separtment to rally Americans behind the the biggest farce in recent history! This is not about WMD, its about $$$$$$$

  • Posted By: Factarereal @ 06/05/2008 5:08:01 PM

    The Clintons have blood on their hands and are doomed:

    1. http://www.lizmichael.com/clintond.htm

    2. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1142670/posts

    3. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.html

    4. http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/c/clintonfriends.htm

  • Posted By: vakosh @ 06/05/2008 4:09:47 PM

    5 reasons he won't win the general
    1. Rezko
    2. Wright
    3. Ayres
    4. Ahmedinejad
    5. GOP won't be handing out votes

    • Posted By: Factarereal @ 06/05/2008 5:07:01 PM

      The Clintons have blood on their hands and are doomed:

      1. http://www.lizmichael.com/clintond.htm

      2. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1142670/posts

      3. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.html

      4. http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/c/clintonfriends.htm

    • Posted By: Pherdnut @ 06/05/2008 4:26:10 PM

      1. Rezko what? An old buddy on corruption charges with zero criminal connections to Obama doesn't hold a candle to the Keating Five.

      2. The only people who are freaked about Wright are also scared of black people. We'd already written those off. Next please.

      3. They live in the same neighborhood have attended an event in common.

      4. And? What does he have to do with Obama?

      5. Really? That's good. because the douchebag that got in on the "screw the gays" vote cost us 3 trillion bucks, our international reputation and serious damage to American faith in their own political system. I'd love it if you guys would stop handing out votes like they were candy on one issue for a change.

  • Posted By: whatexitru @ 06/05/2008 4:13:07 PM

    "Obama has not been particularly accessible to the media. For a candidate who stressed transparency, he could use more. But at least he's not your basic BS artist. He doesn't lie or even do much stretching of the truth to suit his purposes"

    Congratulations! You are another one in the looooooooooong line of journalists (so -called) to have your nose so far up Obama's ass that you can no longer see your way to objectivity. Now I am a Republican, and there is no way on earth I would vote for Obama (based on the fact that he has no experience and no policies to speak of, just a bunch of snake-oil salesman charm and bluster) but for Heaven's sake, YOU are a reporter of the news, and here you have written a magnificent peice of blather about your love affair with Obama. You have the audacity (pun intended) to say he doesnt lie???? THATS a lie.......like ANYONE actually believes he attended a church for 20 years yet by some miracle was unaware of what his "pastor" (again, so-called) was really saying???? He doesnt lie??? Like anyone actually believes that he was unaware of how dirty Rezko was. And on top of all that he is friends and colleagues with William Ayers, as despicable a human being that has ever walked the shores of this great land.

    You have lost any and all credibality as a "reporter" of the news. You should be ashamed for writing that garbage. Obamas is selling change that will destroy this country if he gets elected, and thats not a lie. Print that!

    • Posted By: Factarereal @ 06/05/2008 5:00:27 PM

      That is bullshit........................a silly animal.

  • Posted By: henw @ 06/05/2008 4:15:03 PM

    Barry Hussein Obama should thank god it was Hilary Clinton he ran against. The primary reason he one was the despise Hilary factor.

    • Posted By: Factarereal @ 06/05/2008 4:58:09 PM

      Silly animal.... The race started with both men and women. Great men of the Democratic party were involved and Obama has won it. If you don't want to acknowledge the great thing that he has done, then better done play the fool in here. How can you be so stupid?

    • Posted By: Pherdnut @ 06/05/2008 4:18:32 PM

      Democrats didn't despise Hillary until she started acting like Bush. I still respected her in spite of the Iraq vote copout. Once she started treating my candidate with less respect than I would give to my worst enemy, I got pissed.

  • Posted By: Ewok @ 06/05/2008 1:23:30 PM

    I agree with this well written article about both sides. The first time I ever heard about Obama was last year in an email sent to me that was not about politics at all. It was an email sent by higher ups (Republican & Democrat a-like) in the advertising/marketing community in Chicago. The email was sent for us in the advertising/marketing industry to study Obama's brilliant and effective advertising/marketing strategy. I did look into this and found it quite brillant! I, like many others, have been fed up with politics in this country. Not really feeling completely connected to either the Republicans or Democrats, so I then went on to find out more about Obama as a politician and a person. Among other things, I read a book he wrote about himself and I began to really connect with him on so many levels as a real American! I never liked Hillary, but as it became more apparent that she expected that she was the winner eventhough she wasn't winning and her whiny/sore loser attitude, I knew she was definately not the President I wanted to elect, so I choose Obama for many reasons. It saddens me that in 2008! there seem to be so many people who only see race and I would hope that these people would go out and educate themselves about who these candidates really are before they make judgement about someone solely based on race. I like to consider myself "color-blind" -As Steven Colbert likes to say he is!- when it comes to race. I believe all people should be treated equally and fairly! For those of you that feel the way I do- I think the only way to get beyond this hatred and move forward is to spread peace, love and tolerance to future generations not only in America, but around the world. Voting for McCain is only spreading more hate to future generations here and around the world! Have a great day! Thanks for reading and explore everything before you decide on anything!

    • Posted By: Pherdnut @ 06/05/2008 2:12:28 PM

      Just a hunch, but was this DDB? I doubt they recognized that Obama's strength is his ability to engage the public in a convincing dialogue of sorts rather than guessing at what they most want to hear and then parroting it. Gen-Y will change advertising into what is should have always been. An argument supporting a quality product, not the image one acquires along with the product.

      • Posted By: Ewok @ 06/05/2008 4:58:01 PM

        Not DDB and no disrespect, but when you say, "Gen-Y will change advertising into what is should have always been. An argument supporting a quality product, not the image one acquires along with the product."- I don't think you have any knowledge of the way advertising works. I also am a Gen-Y (I guess technically when I looked it up- I'm on the cusp of Gen X&Y) Like I said the email that was sent to me wasn't about politics. His marketing/advertising strategy has nothing to do with how well he can make a speech.

  • Posted By: chindognyc @ 06/05/2008 2:25:13 PM

    Remember ladies, vote for McCain, Roe v Wade will be overturned. I am a supporter of the right to life, but I would never tell a lady how to decide. Once you take that right away, watch the rest go down the drain. You will be back being told how to live and how to feel. Is this what you want? A vote for McCain means a vote to women loosing there rights. African-Americans should be worried also. Don't be stupid ladies. You have the power to keep Roe v Wade the same. Don't let the right turn your rights away. Be smart.

    • Posted By: tracyruns262@netscape.net @ 06/05/2008 4:57:58 PM

      Smart Women DON'T NEED ROE v WADE!

    • Posted By: vakosh @ 06/05/2008 2:51:37 PM

      I'll give you your right to life and with that you can also have Rezko, Wright and Ahmadinejad

      • Posted By: The "O" Team @ 06/05/2008 4:09:50 PM

        Boy it AIN'T hard to tell that you are slow or stupid... This is what's really funny. You have these arm-chair wacko's who, in the face of common (maybe not so common) sense, still persist to get on the internet and talk shhhhh... I don't know who you are but you really should stop being a negative knut-sack and either get on board or vote for McCain't... Either way, you and these other piece's of ........ work should really consider, SHUTTING THE PH:)Q-UP...

        That's the problem with the Internet... You have all of these morons expressing views that they wouldn't dare utter in public... and why... because they would publicly be viewed as a total lazzolez (at best).... or... Somebody would probably split their none-stop, flapping lips...

        SO PLEASE JUST VOTE MC'CAINT AND SHUT THE PH:)Q-UP.... THAT OLD TRAITOR, SLASH PHART WON'T WIN ANYWAY AND SO, FOR A 2ND TIME (surely not in your life but during this campaign), YOU WILL, BE EXPOSED AS THE "KNOW-NOTHING-DUMASS" THAT YOU AND I BOTH, KNOW YOU ARE... :)

        Good call on the Democratic Primary DUMASS:)

        Make some more predictions... WE ALL WILL THEN KNOW TO PICK THE ONE THAT IS CONTRARY TO YOUR CRACK INDUCED SELECTION...

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        Don???t worry Mr. OBAMA, when you are President of the United States, such loose talk, absolutely WILL NOT BE TOLERATED??? ???

        You are free to now move on to the rest of your day CITIZEN???

        BE WELL???

      • Posted By: chindognyc @ 06/05/2008 3:07:36 PM

        You idiot. Put Hillary with Rezco also. Wonder why Bill refuse to show his donors list. I think we know why. I'll take the change then the same old (and I mean old) politics.

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