Khalid Shiekh is a patsy just like Harway Oswald in Kennedy assasination...,,OSAMA BIN LADEN is CIA greatest asset well under CIA pretection . MI5+MOSSAD+CIA=AL-QUAIDA(AL CIA-DA) The simple arithamatic of Terrorism.
Inside the Gitmo arraignment of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.
Khalid Shiekh is a patsy just like Harway Oswald in Kennedy assasination...,,OSAMA BIN LADEN is CIA greatest asset well under CIA pretection . MI5+MOSSAD+CIA=AL-QUAIDA(AL CIA-DA) The simple arithamatic of Terrorism.
Can you define victory in this war?
You ask alot of questions that don't really have simple answers. This war is not limited to one continent it is Global as we have seen here in the U.S.A., Britian , Asia and of course the Middle East. As far as a surrender document you are assuming the Western Powers are victorious? I don't think there will be a signing of surrender in this war because we are not at War with any certain county. We are at war with an ideology of religous fanatasism that may never end because there are plenty of places for these Roaches to hide and there hatred continues to breed more hatred. So the unconditional surrender looks like a long way off if ever. The last question you ask about what country we are at war with is very intriging because all of these enemy combatants originate somewhere. This is a huge problem we face because our goverment and its allies with the exception of Israel is ok with giving these two faced govts that recruit and sponser these terrorist groups a free pass Theywant to have no responibility for there subjects action saying they are not aligned with these people. As far as I'm concerned this practice must end and all govts with any conection to these terrorist must be held responsible. This twofaced diplomacy these govts play with the USA and its Allies is not working look at Pakistan and Saudi Arabia the only reason they are fighting these groups more at home is because these groups are attacking there Kingdoms. Whatever you can't have it both ways your either on our side or with the terrorists. All Govts should be held responsible for there citizens actions. And if we treaten to cut of Diplomacy or $$$$$$$$$$ aid with these Govts might rethink there position. But I wouldn't count on us forcing these govts so I would expect things to stay the same or get worse in this area. Bottom line the West must realize these people are at War with us and want to destroy us and our way of life. It comes down to survival. What would the Romans or Genghis Khan do? That is a hard pill for most of us to swallow. But what is the alternative? Diplomacy. To me that ended when they took down the trade center.
Take Them in a plane and drop him from 30,000 feet in Gaza with a bomb vest on. one a day. video tape it and play it live through out the middle east
How many bullets do we need 4? Four bullets for four defendents right to the head. No trial . Just like the people they Murdered. Then send there remains home with a law suite and a the same for the country they came from. Its hi time we hold these two faced govts responsible for the actions of there citizens. If they don't pay up. Break of all diplomatic ties and financial aid to them countries. Its the only way for justice of the 3000 plus people murdered by these pieces of Garbage. Either that or bring back the guillotine and set it up where the trade centers were and chop there heads off in public, Its a shame the Vet ain't still around here in Philly that would be the perfect place with a house full of hostile Eagle fans armed with batteries and any other projectile. They wanna meet Allah? Let them send them to Hell.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK WHY WOULDN'T IT BE BETTER TO LET THEM ROT IN A SUPERMAX,RATHER THAN BECOMING ISLAMIC SUPERSTAR MARTYRS? I HONESTLY WOULD LIKE SOMEONE TO EXPLAIN IT.
The defendants are nothing more than a bunch of crybabies (Allah would be proud). When I think of what they did to the inocent people at the WTC... I hope like hell they were tortured. I doubt it, but I can hope. If I give it any further thought tonight, their suffering would give me comfort. They hate us. Not because we're bad people, but because they are bad people. How many of you rasist have killed anybody because of the color of their skin? How many of you sexist have murdered somebody because their anatomy is different than yours? How many of you religious folk have killed someone from another church? These guys don't just hate diferent people they kill people because they think diferently than them. They don't just want you to be like them, they want you to be like them because they told you so. Do we as Americans (regardless of you politcal party) really need to use these jerks to be intraspective about us? Does anybody here choose these defendants as your, or better yet, your children's role models? These are all better questions than Olderwiser's questions. Sad dictator regime? You must be talking about the Bush administration. Please, consider this. They want to kill or convert as many Americans as they can. They want you to worship Allah just like they do. This will involve you learning to speak Aribic. They want to set-up an islamic dictorship to make sure you worship Allah just like they do. They hate President Bush and you hate President Bush (hack dictator is a pretty nasty thing to call our President). I hope you are as unhappy as you sound. Because you seem to have no problem at all with what the defendants did. Yet, you inpuned the reporters, the military and our President because of a question you think isn't answered in the story. I think they will get a fair trial. Will it be a perfect trial? I bet that's never happened for anybody. Was it an act of war or just a crime. Did they do it to make a buck? Was it vandalism? Or did they murder over 3000 people to achieve a geopolitiacal, ethnic, and religious goal? Sounds a lot like war to me. Either way, we aren't on trial, our country didn't deserve this and if they are guilty then I say execute them, cremate them, and dump their ashes down a toilette.
I wish that we would stop using the words radical and extremist. The quran is very clear on what muslims should do, they dont have to be radical or extremist...to follow the quran exactly means they must fight in the name of allah. That is not to say that all muslims are bad in anyway, most muslims do not follow the quran word for word, but their holy quran states, if they are called to fight, and dont, they are as bad as the infidels (unbelievers). So media, please stop using those words, extremist or radical, islam is NOT a religion of peace but of violence and the quran is saturated with instructions to kill all unbelievers. We better open our eyes before we are under sharia law.
Martyrs in the making at Guantanamo by Timothy Rutten LA Times (on 6/8/08)
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed may have been called to answer about 9/11 attacks but real questions will never be asked at these mock trials like:
1. What was the connection between Pakistani ISI and Al Qaeda?
2. Who in Pakistani government was KSM in contact with?
3. Pakistani ISI director General Mahmoud Ahmed had instructed Omar Sheikh (kidnapper of Daniel Pearl) to wire $100,000 dollars to lead hijacker Mohammed Atta in his Florida bank account. Mohammed Atta used that money for flight training, living expenses and purchase of tickets on the day of the attacks. How many meetings did KSM had with General Mahmoud Ahmed before 9/11 attacks to finalize that arrangement?
4. General Mahmoud Ahmed as ISI Director only reported to Army Chief General Musharraf. Did KSM also met General Musharraf to finalize the day of 9/11 attacks and financing of the attacks? How did two Generals as Pakistani government leaders helped in executing 9/11 attacks?
5. How did Omar Sheikh who was released by India in 1998 hijacking of an Indian airliner to Taliban, wound up with KSM?
6. Why did kidnappers of Daniel Pearl demand the delivery of F-16 jet fighters by US to Pakistani government as a condition for release of Daniel Pearl? What connection did kidnappers of Daniel Pearl have with Pakistani government?
simple simon
Here's the issue with reporters like these two. They are all caught up in the process and ignore imporant issues. Just like Newsweek's coverage of politics. It's all about the horserace or the lapel pin. It's juvenile. In this hearing, the US military repeatedly cut off the sound feed to the reporters and other observing the proceeding. That is the actions of a hack dictator regime, not the USA. But I didn't find that out reading this story. These two "reporters" chose to skim over that key event, saying the military "blotted out" some the hearing. What does that mean? It's sad and disappointing and another example of how Newsweek and others are still in denial about their failure to truly report on Iraq and this president, rather than cheerlead and try not to upset those in power. After all, if the president gets mad, they won't be able to dress up and go to the big White House balls, will they?
TommySix, I completely agree that calling our actions a Crusade is ridiculous and George Bush should never have said that. Also, if Osama bin Ladin was fighting to destroy America in the early '80s, why did the Reagan and Bush41 Administrations give al Qaeda weapons and training? Your explanation of how K. S. Mohammed and the others should be tried by a military rather than a civilian court did not fully clarify the matters for me, and your suggestion that Jihad comes from "early A.D. centuries of Holy War...against Christendom and Judeasm [sic]" puzzled me, too. You refer us to books; would you please, name one or two learned volumes devoted to these two topics that you could recommend.
Olderbutwiser has seen through to an important truth. Civilians in civilian clothes killing civilians in civilian clothes cannot constitite an act of war. No government issued objections to our conduct or sent ultimatums. No government sent these murderers to accomplish a national policy. No government can surrender or force us to surrender. This is just a matter of a criminal gang getting it's jollies (to use the technical term) by murdering bystanders in numbers greater than ever seen before. While the quantity of victims was greater than ever before in our history, the quality is no different from the Wall Street bombing a century ago, the the Mad Bomber's outrages of the 1950s, or or the Unibomber murders of the 70s. They are just criminals like any other murderers.
This is a holdover for the election. To remine us Bush left N Y Toothless on his watch.What next drag out ben ladin frozen body for the election.I always thought he was dead along time ago,but was used like in the book 1984.Seven years as a supect,now arraigment where are we.Is the nation on prosacEven the nazi got a fast trial.Now were into making Martyr
After his screwball outbursts, it should be obvious to even the most casual observers that K. S. Mohammed is criminally insane, both homicidal and suicidal, and that he belongs in an ultra maximum security facility built especially for such people.
Perhaps there is such a Federal Prison Hospital at Rochester, Minnesota.
Come on, now, Mega, you're really George Bush, aren't you?
I knew I'd get some help from the intelligentsia. Thanks, Mega. Now I understand.
as a court of criminals of war the international society must have a court of crimenals of religion who attack the civil live or destroying the meaning of human rights or to comminating the international peace or privent the devolpment of since and the rights of knwledge or characterizing between peoples according to its religion
Well, I see that my chickens are roosting back there. Time for me to go to bed. I will check back here early in the morning for these answers. Thanks in advance. Send me a bill.
The military really knows how to do it. Waterboard that sucker for five years and get his confession. Then give him his trial and hang him. All this constitutional hockey is just for TV Lawyer and District Attorney programs. Real life is different. No commercials, either.
I think that we could solve a lot of crimes in our country like bank robberies, murders, thefts and the whole range of crimes if we would just waterboard the criminals. They are just coddled. How can you expect them to confess if you treat them like children? Sir, now come on, fess up. You know you did it. Wait, here comes your lunch. We'll be back later and talk some more. Think about confessing while you eat your filet mignon. You never get anywhere coddling them like that. Waterboard. Cheap and fast.
Now, we are beginning to finally try people for whatever we are trying them for on a military base with the presumption that they are not criminals and therefore not subject to our constitution which governs trials, burt are instead under military jurisdiction, meaning that there has to be a war. Help me out here. Thanks.
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