Revenge of the Nerdette

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  • Posted By: leighjamesleigh @ 06/12/2008 8:44:04 AM

    To begin with, intelligent women aren't nerds. All women need to be skilled and sharpen their minds in whatever field they choose to be in or sometimes fall into. Never be codependent on a man for his income or status, women can make it on their own though we still have barriers to deal with. Go girls, get into math and science and medicine, that is where the money is. I know many women who are very smart and attractive, it's wonderful to be both. Too bad so many of my male bosses still feel threatened if I'm too good at my job or my ideas are preferred over theirs, that at times, I have to pretend that I didn't come up with an idea first or already thought of something far superior to their concept. That fragile male ego in the workplace will always exist...

  • Posted By: hisarahx3 @ 06/11/2008 8:41:31 PM

    My god, it's amazing how vicious some woman are here in these comments. So many woman have this unconscious vicious envy that spits out when they see woman that are beautiful and intelligent. And for all those woman saying that looking good is "buying into superfificiality"need to get a reality check. Taking care of one's appearance is extremely important in any type of job, because face it, as much as Oprah and chick flicks like to deny, the fact is looks matter. A LOT. therefore it's EXTREMELY important to look good, and as much as people might say that that type of thought is a media warped image, I'll ask you this one question, what's your first (usually lasting) impression of someone you meet? THEIR APPEARANCE. I myself am an honor student, extremely into fashion, and consider myself very worldly and kind. There's nothing wrong with caring about other things besides intelligence, it's what normal human beings are drawn to do.

  • Posted By: slutzky.1 @ 06/11/2008 3:07:39 PM

    Kudos to giving young women intellectual empowerment, proving they can be themselves, and still be successful in an engineering field. Yet it's also disgusting that the only time you hear of women advancing themselves in math and sciences, its accompanied by a culture that is obsessed with looks and material goods. This TV show sounds like the Hills or some other MTV garbage transplanted into an engineering college. Why not just sellout every female instead of the intelligent ones?

  • Posted By: pittengineer94 @ 06/11/2008 1:14:50 PM

    Great article! As a female mechanical engineer with a master's degree (also in a male dominated industry), I am so glad to see that women engineers don't have to fit the stereotypes - and we all know what those are. During my career, I wish I had a dollar for everytime I heard comments like, "Honey, you'll get your finger nails dirty!" as I walk out on a manufacturing floor, or "YOU have an engineering degree?!?" It's about time that we let young women know that you can be whoever you are and still think that science and math is cool. I think it is fantastic that these young women in your article are proud of their intelligence and accomplishments in a technical field. Such confidence is needed in order to help other younger women/girls know that being technical isn't just for the boys!

  • Posted By: casey13 @ 06/11/2008 12:54:13 PM

    Some of these comments are hysterical. Newsflash people, looks do matter. Sorry, but true. Research abounds on the subject. Kudos to these women who are unafraid to flaunt their brains and looks. Boos to those of you (obviously not very good looking) who feel it necessary to put them down. I'm married to a brilliant and very attractive woman...a lawyer who plays WoW, AOC and just built me a top-line computer. It's amusing to see people's reaction when they first meet her, especially after they had previously communicated to her via email or phone. It's a shame that intelligent females are assumed to be less
    attractive. Oddly enough, the most negative reactions usually come from other women. Perhaps, women need to be a little less competitive with one another and focus on the bigger picture? Look in the mirror ladies.

  • Posted By: Igloo0609 @ 06/11/2008 12:48:42 PM

    I think it is great to have attractive femail scientists and engineers. But the reality is that there are very few female Profs that fit in the "Hollywood Style" and truth be told that once you are in the field, deeply engaged in one's work (competing for research funding and all), there is no time to "look beautful everyday". Beauty requires time and effort, and so do good work and good science. Naturally, it is a conflict at all times, to choose to be "hot" or "excel in a men's field". Just my two cents....

  • Posted By: alankent64 @ 06/11/2008 11:13:05 AM

    more women will move to tech just as india did those not able to compete physically ALWAYS look for a technological fix to compete socially .....india has never had an olympic champon in any sport yet they produce thousands of soft ware engineers yearly.
    in the coming century look for all areas of math and tech to dominated by those who are weak physically regardless of sex

  • Posted By: bjstar @ 06/11/2008 8:25:18 AM

    It's about time, says this 50+ UC Berkeley math grad Black nerd with an engineering master's degree, and a job in a male dominated industry. Thanks Prof. Panetta for starting the Girl Nerd group at Tufts. You are an inspiration! I think I will start a club in my town for teen and 'tween girl geeks and nerds. Female Nerds of the world U-N-I-T-E! Kudos also to NPR for publicizing this article.

  • Posted By: GustoMaybe @ 06/10/2008 8:35:41 PM

    A word to these girls: stop trying so hard to look like models. A lot of us engineering guys got spat upon by flashy, arrogant ditzes earlier in life, and the distaste from that hasn't worn off yet. The most attractive thing about you is your intelligence, and conformity to gender "norms" will not endear you to us in the slightest, nor will it help you get a free pass into a career that often has people's lives in the balance.

    • Posted By: asteroid77 @ 06/11/2008 1:26:47 AM

      Good point. The voice of this article was rather contrived.

  • Posted By: asteroid77 @ 06/11/2008 1:20:33 AM

    Great...now we have to be smart and effortlessly hot in the "fashion, makeup and high heels"= feminine paradigm. Where specifically will we get the time for all this?

    I just hope that we don't end up with average "girl geeks" when we could have female Einsteins, Mozarts, and Bertrand Russells if we reconfigured the "femininity" constraint...our society needs all the talent it can get!

  • Posted By: vhdangel @ 06/10/2008 10:22:37 PM

    Yeah, because OBVIOUSLY "fashion, makeup and high heels" are the definition of "feminine" *eyeroll*. Way to buy into that stereotype, ladies, and make yourselves look like airheads even when you're studying difficult theorems and being brainy. News flash: The rest of us "geek" girls don't love you for it. Because now we're EXPECTED to not only be smart, but look like we just walked out of the pages of Vogue. Those of us not blessed with super-model good looks are just as smart and competent as you, we just don't get the recognition because we don't fit in with society's views of what a woman MUST look like to be considered attractive and successful. The whole point of being a geek is to be admired for your mind, not your "assets". It's sad that once again, the media focuses on these girl's "beauty" as amazing and unique (because they're *gasp* brainy), as if it's the only thing to aspire to. Your worth should not be not based on your physical appearance.

  • Posted By: Isis Skye @ 06/09/2008 12:54:11 AM

    What a sad commentary, that even WOMEN (Girls? come on! They are all grown up, dearies!) this "smart" are still equating "feminine" with being a sex objects. No matter how smart we may be, in this society our worth as human beings always comes down to how much we are willing to conform to media expectations of "femaleness": being eye candy to please men. I think they need to balance their Diffy Qs classes with a few women's studies and critical theory classes. This breaks my heart.

    As a 37-year-old nerd woman raised on Kristy McNIcol instead of Brittany spears, I scream from the mountain tops: I hate this retro-generation. i hope they all get syphilis and have body parts fall off. Over and over, they think they are breaking boundaries, but they really take us right back to 1950s stereotypes of "feminine" and "masculine." And yes, there were she-geeks in the 50s and earlier. Look up Grace Murray Hopper. She didn't need to pose in a bikini to be cool.

    • Posted By: ChemEngPhD @ 06/09/2008 10:01:12 PM

      I completely agree with you. The article mentions that this is the first generation of women that embraces "hotness and brains" but, really, women engineering students have been doing for at least 10 years (when I was in undergrad, all my chem. eng. girlfriends were just as feminine was early education majors). As a chemical engineer (almost) Ph.D. I am all about having more women in sciences and engineering, but I still don't like that we need to be both hot and smart. Men never had to meet both standards. Also, the article mentions that although the number of women in sci/eng majors is increasing, almost half of them don't stick with it in the work force. I wonder what is going to happen to "Nerd Girls" when they leave the shelter of Tuffts University and meet the real world.
      I do agree with a comment of one of the students in the video that men that are intimidated by smart women are not worth thinking about. (Again, not the breakthrough of the century).
      Go Nerd Girls if they can get more women to stick with engineering and sciences.

      • Posted By: Angela Dehart @ 06/10/2008 9:32:15 PM

        Jeez, no matter how much you disagree with someone on their choice of clothing and attitude, what kind of person wishes others a sickness as severe as syphillis and hopes for innocents loss of appendages. I think you may have some internal demons to slay before hurling curses and judgement on others.

    • Posted By: rightwing-leftwing-chickenwing @ 06/09/2008 11:23:07 AM

      Sounds to me like someone is a little sour that they have the brains and not the body. If someone gave you
      the time of the day and attention that you obviously crave i bet you would have a whole new look at your
      little tiny life. And by the way if you are such a genius you should know that syphilis does not make body
      parts fall off it affects the brain She-man!!!

      • Posted By: summer4077 @ 06/09/2008 11:39:33 AM

        I agree with Isis. I'm educated and attractive but it still irritates me when people seem shocked that I can be both. It's not a new thing! Millions of women all over the world, currently and in the past, have been both attractive and brainy. It's not always one or the other. It hasn't been for men, so why women? This article is like, "Surprise! Hot women can be smart!" Duh. What a stupid article.

        • Posted By: AshleyKeen @ 06/09/2008 12:19:54 PM

          Amen, Summer.

          I'm in the same boat with many of these other intellegent women. I nearly bowled over a friend once when I was able to follow along with a desciption on exactly how a hard drive works and rough out how the code for a program should go. I found it pretty frustrating when I was constantly receiveing comments during my undergrad about how they couldn't believe I was in a technical field, since I looked like I should be in business/liberal arts/etc. He're to all the other ladies who find themselves educated, attractive and single since all the guys that are enchanted by our looks are intimidated by our intellects. So sad, but their loss. ;) Incidentally, what was so bad about the 1950's? Bring on the Soda shops and the poodle skirts, says I!

  • Posted By: Angela Dehart @ 06/10/2008 9:28:47 PM

    I was surprised to read a couple of negative comments on these "sexy nerds". I'm confronted every day with the manifestations of my fears that young girls today have nothing between their ears but text message shorthand, cellular airwaves, shopping and reality tv details. The girls in this article give me hope for the future of our society. I don't care what they look like! If they want to sex up their image, fine. Just so I can rest easy knowing that there are brilliant minds at work trying to solve our nation's, society's and world's problems. It's just more proof that you can't judge a book by it's cover.

  • Posted By: nodano @ 06/10/2008 7:58:40 PM

    This article seems to imply that in order to be part of this new, attractive subset of female geeks, one has to look and dress like a Valley Girl. "Math Doesn't Suck"? That is a book title for 5 year olds, not adult women.

  • Posted By: SalemScienceGirl @ 06/10/2008 6:37:54 PM

    Great Article! As a recent female PhD in the field of biomedical sciences, I can't tell you how many times I got strange looks at parties when I was asked my major (one guy actually thought I was joking, he asked where my glasses were!). I almost did not enter my field of choice when a college adviser my first week on Campus freshman year tried to convince me that the major I had picked was a "boys club" (his quotes). I was stubborn enough that I felt I needed to prove him wrong. Would be better if they had links in the article for the mentoring websites. Go female science Nerds!

  • Posted By: clevomon @ 06/10/2008 4:59:08 PM

    You've got to love how female nerds who don't embrace the idea of femininity with their whole hearts are immediately demoted to second-class nerd status as soon as society has a choice. Now what does that say about the vanity and shallowness of this nation?

  • Posted By: clevomon @ 06/10/2008 4:57:45 PM

    Gotta love how female nerds who don't embrace the idea of femininity with their whole hearts are demoted to second-class nerds as soon as there's an option. Now what does that say about the vanity of society?

  • Posted By: girlmogul @ 06/10/2008 4:18:05 PM

    Great story. Go the nerdettes. As a woman in the software developement field, it's been a great place to be - your brain really matters more than your looks. One of the great things about science, engineering and technology - is that it often doesn't matter how you look or what you wear - it really is about the work you can produce. As more and more women go into and stay in the field, hopefully those last vestiges of "sexual harassment" will disappear. Check out GirlMogul's Computer Geek shirt http://www.girlmogul.com/computer-geek.html for your own Girl Geek apparel

  • Posted By: NtrlBlondeCA @ 06/09/2008 8:01:29 PM

    I am happy to see that the Nerdette group featured here are having fun with this "looks vs brains" culture that we still live in today. Women have been working on breaking through the glass ceiling for many years, not only in business but in all realms deemed "Men's" by society.. When I was a young teen I was told that since I was pretty, I should focus on trying to marry a rich man. I didn't, instead I married the class clown that used to call me a geek and cheat off me in class. I am turning 40 this summer, have been married for 19 years, have a beautiful & smart daughter, have a sucessful job typically held by a Man and up until 7 years ago I modeled once in a while for a beach boutique. Why model? Because I could. My husband still calls me a "Geek" but with a smile and usually when I am working on the computer, programming some new gadget that he has purchased or enthusiastically trying to explain the wonders of the universe to my 7 year old.
    Keep it up girls!

  • Posted By: GustoMaybe @ 06/08/2008 7:43:15 PM

    danica mckellar: http://danicamckellar.net/danica_mckellar_31.jpg
    ellen spertus: http://www.chaseclub.com/sexiest_geek500x335.jpg (this is sexy in ANY context??)

    DO NOT WANT ANYTHING MODELED AFTER THIS

    • Posted By: Isis Skye @ 06/09/2008 12:59:45 AM

      Um, they aren't THINGS, they are human beings. And they aren't for your consumption. Please crawl under the beer-soaked rock from which you squirmed.

      • Posted By: rightwing-leftwing-chickenwing @ 06/09/2008 11:18:51 AM

        if you were half as smart as you try to make yourself out to be, you would realize that all people are
        judged on multiple levels including physical appearance and their mental capacity. If you really want to
        help the advancement of your fellow sex, maybe you should practice some of the tremendously over
        stated wisdom you are trying to pass off as your own. An idea of where to start would be taking that
        Fem-Nazi corndog out of your A$$.

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