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  • Posted By: Barkofske @ 06/08/2008 7:11:35 PM

    You give new meaning the term male chauvinist pig. I have just finished watching your inane comments on the Dan Abrams show regarding the bias of the MSM against Clinton.

    Now let me see now, as I understand it,

    it was not Clinton???s policy positions (positions that she was able to articulate so well that all Obama could say was Me Too),
    it was not the fact that she actually spent time performing a service for her constituents and country (perhaps Obama will rebate some of his mega millions back to the voters of Illinois ),
    it was not about who is best for America (a competent leader vs someone who make Chris Matthews??? leg tingle); --no apparently the only issue is that her staff was RUDE to the press corp.

    OMG.

    I realize that it is so easy to throw me and my fellow typical white women aside, (or under bus since that seems to be Obama???s most preferred method of disposal), by dismissing us as mere racists. But really aren???t you at least even a little bit curious as to why millions of people chose to vote against Obama even after you told us, and told us, and told us, and told us, and told us, and told us,???and told us--it was over.

    Do you really think that the votes of millions of people can so easily be dismissed by saying their just racists? So here is the conundrum, if us white folk are voting against Obama because he is black and that makes us racists, then what do you call all the black people voting for Obama, just because he is black.

    Can you really be that ignorant? Mind you, I did not say stupid, I said ignorant; as in the act of ignoring.

    I assure you that I am not a racist, but even if I was, that does not negate the very real concerns I and many others have about Obama. Concerns that you in your ???infinite wisdom??? have failed to properly investigate.

    Concerns about the company Mr. Obama likes to keep. I have no doubt that the Tony R. today isn???t the man Obama once knew; back then he was a lot richer.

    Concerns about what Obama will do if he becomes president; withdraw or not to withdraw, talk with terrorists or not talk with terrorists; tax the rich or the poor, or maybe both. Defend Israel or give it away, like Chamberlain did Poland. Scream righteous indignation all you want; don???t tell me this thought hasn???t crossed your mind.

    Concerns about how he really feels about race in America; seems to be really good at playing that race card.

    Concerns about whether or not we will be electing someone who is a liar or just amoral.

    So while you and your BF???s Keith and Chris, all revel in your Obama man crush, this typical white woman will be doing all I can do to send all you ???sweeties??? back to the caves you came out of. Oh and by the way, as John McEnroe famously said, ???Go grow some HAIR???.

  • Posted By: The Dominican @ 06/08/2008 7:05:35 PM

    You are a shame for America... Remember your leader: Obama said USA vote for dreams not for envy, fears, hate as you are... shame on you....

  • Posted By: dreffein @ 06/08/2008 6:46:43 PM

    Comment: Comment: HRC supporters - while I haven't been as successful as I hoped on this site, I have found many allies on other sites including noquarterusa.net and CNN. I'd like to rename our project: Operation Respect. The goal is to go after those who have used vile and malicious comments against Hillary and make sure there are consequences for them - in particular, the folks at Newsweek, MSNBC and their advertisers.

    Initially, we just need to ensure we are not boosting rates at MSNBC and Newsweek sees their subscriptions drop (which will lower advertising revenue). Thereafter, we will go after the advertisers (just like the right wing has done successfully in some of their campaigns).. I will be back in touch with boycott details. Thanks to those of you who have added ideas and better tactics than I initially proposed.

    Obama supporters - I don't think Barack is behind any of this nor is my anger directed at him (although some of you are really pissing me off calling HRC supporters, dumb, ignorant, stupid, etc.). Please stay out of this and let HRC supports redress our grievances with the people that are really behind our anger.

    HRC supporters - I know many of you are angry at Obama. CNN polls show that 17% of HRC supporters will vote for McCain and 22% plan to stay home. I understand. The GE is 5 months away. In the meantime, let's see if we can bring down Keith Olbermann, Chris Matthews, Howard Fineman, Jonathan Alter, etc., to at least take the edge off. Women will never be disrespected again (at least by these as*hol*es) if we can effectively hit them where it hurts.

  • Posted By: Cazador1972 @ 06/08/2008 5:50:38 PM


    I'm glad to hear General Wesley Clark is still being mentioned. He is white, a Southerner, has impeccable national security credentials and is, to boot, Jewish.

    Weber has no charisma and neither does Richardson. John Kerry would be an absolute joke to have on the ticket because most Democrats are disappointed in him and Obama's problem is Joe Pick Up, a block of voters Kerry, as a New Englader won't help with. Obama would be poised to win MORE states than Kerry won in '04, so how would he help?

    But ultimately, the analysis is wrong. Pundits keep mentioning how Obama could lose part of his supporters if he chooses the wrong person. Obamabots could be disappointed but not go as far as staying home except if he chose David Duke or Farrakhan himself as VP. Most Hillary supporters would turn out for him to, it is too early and the resentment hasn't yet died down (websites like Huffingtonpost continue to blast Clinton even AFTER she's conceded which only makes reconciliation harder - main reason why I switched to Newsweek). In the end, Obama might have to bite the bullet like JFK did with LBJ to have a reasonably secure shot in November. Although with McCain promising to continue channeling Bush, Obama would have to go out of his way to lose.

  • Posted By: Grulg @ 06/08/2008 3:58:26 PM

    Great. Alter, I liked how Dan Abrams brought you up short the other day-it's time for the Clintons to go, you said, and he stopped you cold-Sez who? You? Us in the MSM-it's not our place to decide that. I'm sorry, but c'mon-Wesley Clark? Lousy campaigner. Webb? Leave him in the Senate. Strickland? who knows. Sam Nunn?? What--did Lautenburg say no? Get real here. You guys seem to want ANYONE but Hillary. Get a grip.

  • Posted By: dreffein @ 06/07/2008 4:12:44 PM

    HRC supporters - it hit me tonight that we can do something constructive to show our displeasure regarding the outcome of the Democratic primaries. Unfortunately, I saw Keith Olbermann say that if Barack loses, it's all Hillary's fault. I was in absolute disbelief. I've sent MSNBC e-mails, etc., but to no avail.

    So, here's my idea. Let's set up Operation Payback (Nins - you get credit for the name after thinking I was involved in Operation Chaos). As of today, I've cancelled my subscription to Newsweek and will NEVER watch MSNBC again. My relatives have done the same. If we hit these media outlets who have so mistreated Hillary in the pocketbook, maybe we can at least address some of the anger we're all feeling.

    Obama supporters - do us all a favor and stay out of this with putdown comments. I think that this gives HRC supporters something we can do that is constructive and places blame (at least from my perspective) where it is due.

    Hillary supporters - what do you think? If we pass this along to our friends, families and post it everywhere, I think we can make a difference. Both to salvage some of the hits Hillary has taken and to make sure that the next female candidate gets treated fairly.

    • Posted By: kathyfnp @ 06/07/2008 9:41:17 PM

      Great idea. Let's not forget GE the parent company of NBC. Honest journalism was a hallmark of NBC. I am so sorry that they became the Nominate Barrack Campaign. Displeasure to GE by avoiding its products and letting them know why would be a great place to start. I have stopped watching any NBC, MSNBC and plan to cancel my subscription to Newsweek. Perhaps the gentleman can fine a position at Fox. Oberman, Matthews and (sadly) Russert have shown a misogynist streak a mile wide. Could we reward Katie Couric with some viewership. There would be a sweet irony in that. In fairness it is not Senator Obama's fault that NBC et al decided to become his campaign. He was simply in a position to take advantage of that and I cannot fault him for doing so. I think the big issue is the media and it's treatment of Hillary as a woman. I am happy to see the progress on racism. Could we use this moment in time and make 18 Million cracks in the ceiling that Hillary was looking to.
      I wonder, could we change the name to something more uplifting and more consistent with Senator Clinton's message? Wouldn't it be sweet to use this site to make it happen. I truly believe this is a campaign that could catch on.

      • Posted By: dreffein @ 06/08/2008 1:23:36 AM

        Kathyfnp - let's do it. I'm open to the name change. Any thoughts?

        • Posted By: cferns1530 @ 06/08/2008 11:09:32 AM

          hahaha you women amuse me....your plots would not even make a low budget movie. carry on, destroy the democratic process n complain why the economy is too bad afterwards. accept defeat n move on...hillary(of all ppl) did!
          i actually thought that she had a great chance until she kept pulling up the woman issue repeatedly everywhere. sure i have respect for her to be a strong woman and candidate, but her campaign misfired.

          and bill?well lets se...hmmm...

        • Posted By: cferns1530 @ 06/08/2008 11:01:02 AM

          hahaha you women amuse me....your plots would not even make a low budget movie. carry on, destroy the democratic process n complain why the economy is too bad afterwards. accept defeat n move on...hillary(of all ppl) did!
          i actually thought that she had a great chance until she kept pulling up the woman issue repeatedly everywhere. sure i have respect for her to be a strong woman and candidate, but her campaign misfired.

          and bill?well lets se...hmmm...

  • Posted By: kathyfnp @ 06/08/2008 7:35:07 AM

    Perhaps Hillary could give us a name. There is a powerful force out there that needs to be mobilized. Would facebook or some other forun be a good spot. This is on a site that is sponsored by an employer of media that chose to manipulate news. What about facebook. My email site is kathleenhaycraft@yahoo.com, We could encourage women who support women. Katie Couric was the only one that admitted she felt pressure to avoid coverage of the Iraq war (by NBC). Making women aware of the way the media has unfairly treated her as well as Senator Clinton. Linking the lack of fairness to action like you described would be great

    • Posted By: griffin1 @ 06/08/2008 9:59:12 AM

      Hillary will be against this, she is trying to unify the party. We have bigger issues than some who are trying to prove a point. Our Country is in deep need for change and right now we need to get our democrats elected into office. Hillary understand this, if Hillary would have won the nomination I would have voted for her with no problem. McBush is not what this Country needs.

  • Posted By: ghostcommander @ 06/07/2008 9:58:52 PM

    Obama should selectObama is a smart and intelligent young man who is politically wise. I think he will make the right political choice for a running mate. Pundit, pundits, and more pundits are getting riciculous. Read your own columns/articles from the eyes of the voters.

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 06/07/2008 6:20:43 PM

    SeattleGuy:Spoken like a True Snaggle Toothed Jack A$$

    Women are not going to Vote for a 71-72 Yr. Old Semi-Senile, Pro-Life, Pro-Iraq & Afghanistan, Anti-Gay, War McCain.

    Women make up the Majority (52%) of America.


    Womens Political Ties or Titles , don't mean Squat, Women want Noone telling them what to do with their Bodies, Roe Vs. Wade comes to Mind.

    The Anti-War Sentiment, that You are Not Risking Your Flesh, Bone, Blood & Spirit for, while others do, well those Parents are not going to Vote for McCain.

    Anti Outsourcing of USA Jobs. to international Countries likeCommunist China, Canada, Mexico and India, just to name a Few.

    An Women that judge a person based on LOOKS, John McCain Loses Looks, because, He`s definitely Not Good looking.

    People judge based on Looks an John McCain loses in that category Big Time !!

    Nixon: He was Judged based on his Looks in his Kennedy Vs. Nixon Televised debates.

    He lost !!

    John You are Done !!

    Mccain is Done

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 06/07/2008 3:47:03 PM

    SeattleGuy:Spoken like a True Snaggle Toothed Jack A$$

    Women are not going to Vote for a 71-72 Yr. Old Semi-Senile, Pro-Life, Pro-Iraq & Afghanistan, Anti-Gay, War McCain.

    Women make up the Majority (52%) of America.


    Womens Political Ties or Titles , don't mean Squat, Women want Noone telling them what to do with their Bodies, Roe Vs. Wade comes to Mind.

    The Anti-War Sentiment, that You are Not Risking Your Flesh, Bone, Blood & Spirit for, while others do, well those Parents are not going to Vote for McCain.

    Anti Outsourcing of USA Jobs. to international Countries likeCommunist China, Canada, Mexico and India, just to name a Few.

    An Women that judge a person based on LOOKS, John McCain Loses Looks, because, He`s definitely Not Good looking.

    People judge based on Looks an John McCain loses in that category Big Time !!

    Nixon: He was Judged based on his Looks in his Kennedy Vs. Nixon Televised debates.

    He lost !!

    John You are Done !!

    Mccain is Done

  • Posted By: SeattleGuy @ 06/07/2008 3:31:15 PM

    Who cares? He's toast come November. Hope you're happy Super-dels!

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