****** NEWS FLASH! ******
This just in! Jimmy Peanuts has just sign-on to BO cult, he promises to mentor Sen. McGreen until Election Day. HOOOOORAY!!!! I feel much better now.
****** NEWS FLASH! ******
This just in! Jimmy Peanuts has just sign-on to BO cult, he promises to mentor Sen. McGreen until Election Day. HOOOOORAY!!!! I feel much better now.
Yeah, I feel sooooooo much better about Obamagreen now. : - )
So is this "Concerned Candadian" sockpuppeting under a different name? Brilliant. Nothing says integrity more than continually masking your identity.
No, it's not a myth, but it is an artificial "controversy" based on lies and innuendo perpetrated by neocons, misguided HRC supporters, her failed campaign and, unfortunately some of the racial tensions that have been hot between Jewish and African American communities for quite sometime.
But you know.......not this time.......it's not going to work unless people are being willfully ignorant.
When a leader makes too many mistakes, we [pay the price. See Bush and Carter as examples. Wait I made a mistake, Earth pays the price for their m istakes, not only the USA.
I don't want in the WHa rooky that takes him 13 months for him to come up with a correct policy to handle the situation in Iraq. It took Obama 13 months to move from "I will remove the US forces from Iraq "on day one" than he had intermediate positions (basically moving and copying like a Monkey HRC positions), and now he is finally saying "it will take a year or more to remove the USA forces, and we will leave a contingency force in Iraq, and by the way we will have forces, near Iraq and Iran to come backm if needed", I will not support the learning costs of a rooky.
We will pay the price for all his mistakes, and his learrning costs.
Let's hope whomever gets elected has a greater command of the English language. Your writing makes George W. Bush look like William F. Buckley.
So why would Carter "sign on" to Obama's camp and help McCain (McGreen) you see when you make "Mc" references you confuse the repugs, see ALL the "Mc" manes are for McCain like this:
McBush, McSame, McLame, McMearchantOfDeath, McMoron, McCrybaby, McTurnCoat, McCrook, McFlipFlop, McLilBush, McDouche, McSenile, McAlzheimers (or McLilReagan), McHatesOurTroops, McRecipeThief (his wife), McAngry, McMean, McOldGuy, McT-rexArms, McSkinCancer, McLiverSpots, McCantPilot, McNotaHero...you get the idea, i'm sure there are tons more. So again why is Carter helping McCain?
Check out what promoron had to say here:
"you are a great supporter of the communists, and are against everything our enlisted/volunteered man stand for."...promoron
Q: was this a reaction to John McCain NO VOTING the NEW GI BILL and turning his back on our sons and daughters?
Q: Was this a reaction to the FACT that John McCain did over 30 propaganda films for the VC before he was released (I heard he got best actor that year), You have to look for his screen name though the VC called him "Song Bird."
Q: Is this a reation to John McCain calling for MORE WAR FOR OIL? Wanting to spend 100yrs in Iraq, wanting to attack Iraq and start a third warwhen neither of the first 2 are near being over (according to the bush media machine).
Q: Is this a reaction to the fact that John McCain has used his sons "serving" in Iraq for Political Theatre? as his son NEVER left the green zone and only worked as clerk while there, 1 tour, no combat, he was like RADAR on MASH...lol
Well I for one commend your condemnation of John McCain's complete betrayal of US troops and their families, John McCain's traitorus activities while working for the VC during his stay in Viet Nam, for John McCian's call for MORE WAR YEARS and MORE DEAD AMERICANS.
Thank you mam, well said ;)
NEXT!
Now I realy understand why you are such a strong supporter of BOBAMA.
As part of his health care plan he will provide mental help to his brown shirts. Will it decrease your costs of mental treatment? I can understand that you will be a major beneficiary of his plan.
By the way how do you know if I was or not in Vietnam, also I met POWs who were in Hanoi Hilton with McCain, they totally disprove the idiotic claims you make.
Yup and I met superman and he showed me how to fly...
If I were Jewish - I would question Obama's old pals Ali Abunimah, Rashid Khalidi, and Jeremiah Wright who are all pro-Palestinian. Beyond that - I would question Obama on the antisemitic statements he recently had scrubbed from his campaign website. His choice of friends over the past twenty years have been pro-Palestinian...and apparently the Israelis don't have as much confidence in Obama's friendship to Israel - shortly after his speech came the dire warning to Iran.
Obama and his wife are socialists - she wants people to give up a piece of pie so others can have more- he advises college grads to go into community service. Given that he is the most ambitious Senator we've seen in years, I don't know how he can tell others not to follow ambitions. I guess he thinks we don't need anymore inventors, scientists, and leaders for American successes.
Bill Gates should've organized voters or baked cookies for the poor instead of inventing windows.
Considering the growth in the disparity of income in this country -- the largest in history -- it is time that people outside the richest 10% of the country SHOULD get more than the crumbs. It is time that the top income brackets and corporations pay their fair share of the tax burden. The middle class has been soaked long enough. From the NYT 3/29/07:
"The new data also shows that the top 300,000 Americans collectively enjoyed almost as much income as the bottom 150 million Americans. Per person, the top group received 440 times as much as the average person in the bottom half earned, nearly doubling the gap from 1980."
Secondly, you do know, don't you, that Obama began his career in public service as a community organizer earning little money? He turned down more lucrative job offers to work for the improvement of impoverished neighborhoods. Like John Kennedy and Robert Kennedy, he extoled and embodied the viture of service to the country.
How do you know that BOBAMA turned down lucrative offers.
Perhaps he was not good enough to receive any offers and did not hjave a choice but to take the only thing available to an empty suite, i.e. become a community organizer.
Based on results it looks that he was also a failure as a community oprganizer.
See the crim e level, and the educational failures in every area that he was involved in.
Vote McCain for president he is the best substitute for HRC.
Well people find these things out pramono by researching issues. They go to www.snopes.com, they go to www.dividedwefail.org, www.factcheck.org, go to Google News and read as much as possible about the candidates.
My fellow blogger, I am not here to argue your points, I could tear them into pieces. HDavidson has already done so in a prior posting... and I may have also... I want you to see that when a person says things without backing them up, you sound like you haven't researched your statements.
I have learned a lot of things looking at other people's viewpoints, whether they are antisemetic, bigotted, or reasonable. That is why I started to blog as a hobby to learn, and grow. I know more than I ever did before I ever started to blog.
A final comment....The issues this country faces today is not a sole Republican or Democratic issue, rather it falls back to all of us, WE elected our officials, and WE let our power go to our government unchecked over the last eight years. The pendulum needs to be in the middle, not to either extreme. Our country is in the worst shape it has been in years..
It is our responsibility as citizens to exercise the power of the pen, power of the blogs, power of voting to make our country turn around and to bring it back to a leadership position once again. Remember the words "We the People"
So your response to Pramonos statement from his blog (noted below) is . . . ? ? ? ?
Based on results it looks that he was also a failure as a community oprganizer.
See the crim e level, and the educational failures in every area that he was involved in.
So because he didn't turn ghettos into suburban sprawl over night, he failed? That's not very realistic is it?"
I never said he failed as a Community Organizer. I said that he learned from it and knew that his calling was to be to help others in the community and to push them to help themselves.. That is the other guy/gal that stated something about failures in their blog. I just responded to it. I put together a full blog elsewhere (above somewhat?) that explains that although he was unable to make a great dent into the blight of the area he was try to work with the community to improve, it pushed him on to try to get into a greater position or role in the community to have more power to get things done, thus his run and win to become Illinois senator..
SUGGESTION TO OBAMA SUPPORTERS:
If someone challenges you with a statement showing weakness in your candidate, rather than tell them to go off and figure it out themselves ( e . g. Posted By: marksgershenson @ 06/13/2008 00:22:46 ) , why not provide some supporting information in your response about your candidate back to the blogger. It is much more beneficial to provide the blogger with supporting information in a response, like I did here. Just a suggestion. . . .
- Sharenews, registered Independent, undecided vote.
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BARACK OBAMA - COMMUNITY ORGANIZER for the Developing Communities Project (DCP), which focused on black city neighborhoods.
It was said that the work of Obama--and hundreds of other organizers--did not transform the South Side of Chicago or restore lost industries. By Obama's own admission, there were few victories. But whether it was getting the city to fill potholes, provide summer jobs, or remove asbestos from the apartments or persuading the apartment managers to repair toilets, pipes, and ceilings, Obama encouraged residents to come up with their own priorities stressing that it was their community.
OBAMAs words: ???I can't say we didn't make mistakes, that I knew what I was doing,??? Obama recalled three years ago to a boisterous convention of the still-active DCP. ???Sometimes I called a meeting, and nobody showed up. Sometimes preachers said, 'Why should I listen to you?' Sometimes we tried to hold politicians accountable, and they didn't show up. I couldn't tell whether I got more out of it than this neighborhood.???
MY summary: Obama did not have significant accomplishments that came out of his years serving as a community organizer to justify as part of his experience to be worthy of him running for President, but it was a period of time in which he knew he wanted to be involved in a greater capacity to assist people in defining their mutual interests and working together to improve their lives in the community. This eventually drew him into the political arena where he ran for and got the seat of Illinois Senator.
So what? That's your opinion. He's not a miracle worker. I'm sure it will be hard work trying to clean up Washington as well, without any guarantee of success. However, I'd rather support a candidate that is actually talking about fixing things, then those so jaded they believe things will always be the same.
Id rather talk about voting for a President that has made significant accomplishments and has proven to walk the walk, and not just talk the talk of " . . Hope and Change and having Blind Faith'
You are right and this is the reason that we should
Vote for McCain he is the first choice as a substitute to HRC.
I will not risk the future of my children on the hot air called Obama. His Pastor (Wright) defined him as a cheat and a lier" and he knows him first hand for 20 years.
And Pastor Hagee said that the Catholic Church was "the great whore", you know Hagee he's the guy McCain Begged for aN ENDORCEMENT FROM. He also said Katrina was the fault of the gays and that Hittler was doing "God's Work". This is the guy McCain seeks out for help.
http://www.fightthesmears.com
It is such a shame that JFK could not extol and embody common moral values in his personal/political life and even more of a shame that the press hid this behavior from the voters who blindly elected him. Because we could not know about the dirty life of JFK we the voters had to endure the Cuban Missile crisis, the Bay of Pigs fiasco, the "Happy Birthday, Mr. President" trash incident, and ultimately a bloody assasination that put the entire free world at risk. Oh, but how the press loved JFK and they are just as smitten with Obama. The mainstream press can not be trusted with tell the American public what they need to know. All people should have their first amendment rights protected and the press will not let this happen. Obama has some skeletons in his closet both in private life and public dealings and I would hope the press would not hid them from the voters of this country. Fight the Smears is a joke and Obama is attempting to suppress American First Amendment Rights.
You are right and this is the reason that we should
Vote for McCain he is the first choice as a substitute to HRC.
I will not risk the future of my children on the hot air called Obama. His Pastor (Wright) defined him as a cheat and a lier" and he knows him first hand for 20 years.
http://www.fightthesmears.com
mimi, kn ow what i think about the outside 10%? I believe that at some point perhaps everybody needs a helping hand. Sound like you are referring to an enternal handout. it is countless people in that 10% that got up of their buts and worked hard for their wealth. It wasn't just handed to them. It seem undemocratic to want them to just give their wealth to the less fortunate. In particular, now when it seems most wants a handout.
Since you're sounding the trumpet against "anti-semitism" what's your stance on McCain seeking out Pastor Hagee's endorcement? Hagee said Hitler was doing "God's work" and I'm sure it was not the first time he said such "divisive" and "disturbing" things...check his record, and McCain Asked for the endorcement, Obama NEVER asked for the Wright endorcement...just thought I'd ask ;)
You are typical of BOBAMA type persons, expressing opinions on something they don't know a thing about.
Have you visited Israel? Do you speak the language? do you understand what goes on in the middle east and why the USA is so interested in it? This is true for democrats and republican administrations. Can you explain why the majority of americans suppoort Israel.
Have you visited Arab countries in the Middle East, Africa and Asia? Do you speak their languages? Have you spoken to government people (most of them dictators) and to people in the street? Do you understand their cultures ? Their cultures existed long before the USA was established.
You sound as a typical BOBAMA person, talking about something and blowing lots of hot air on something they know nothing about.
Not quite what you are responding to, but you did NOT address anything I said, much like the typical McCainite. when ever you are prepared to respond, feel free, BTW with all your "arab" and Israel concerns and questions are you a "terrorist"?
http://www.fightthesmears.com
I think it sucks totally...My dander goes up...Hagee is an absolute idiot....Not much can be done with people like that except to consider the source and move forward. I agree totally with your remarks... :-)
Vote McCain for president he is the best substitute for HRC.
That's hysterical and very true...lol
I guess JFK was a socialist too because he founded the Peace Corp, next, and what antisemetic remarks did he have on his website? Next
You are typical of BOBAMA type persons, expressing opinions on something they don't know a thing about.
Have you visited Israel? Do you speak the language? do you understand what goes on in the middle east and why the USA is so interested in it? This is true for democrats and republican administrations. Can you explain why the majority of americans suppoort Israel.
Have you visited Arab countries in the Middle East, Africa and Asia? Do you speak their languages? Have you spoken to government people (most of them dictators) and to people in the street? Do you understand their cultures ? Their cultures existed long before the USA was established.
You sound as a typical BOBAMA person, talking about something and blowing lots of hot air on something they know nothing about.
http://www.fightthesmears.com
I will be proud of the day when Obama will put the interest of America before the interest of Israel and not be crucified for it. It's a shame that American politicians are selected, not on their commitment to the best interests of America, but by vowing to put the interests of a foreign nation, Israel, first. The oath of allegiance that I said everyday in school was not to Israel, or any country but America.
Those AIPAC members who demand that Israel's war crimes never be mentioned, that the Nakba is somehow anti-Semitic, and that Israel should not have to adhere to the same international nuclear regulation that is being demanded of Iran only demonstrate their ignorance and fascist tendencies when it comes to any type of open discussion of Israel. Israel refused to allow 7 Palestinian Fullbright scholarship recipients to take advantage of this incredible opportunity. Israel has violated international law and countless U.N. resolutions for decades. The Cold War is over and Israel does not offer the U.S. anything other than hampering any positive steps toward a Middle East peace and a viable Palestinian State. Israel receives one fifth of all U.S. foreign aid and yet the country is the size of Rhode Island. That money needs to be spent on America's infrastructure. It is time for the U.S. to stop the blind support of a rogue nation and cease all financial assistance to a country that continues to refuse to abide by the E.U. and U.S. 'road map".
The goal of the Israeli lobby in America,AIPAC,is to falsify, manipulate,stifle, and color discussion,debate,and our beliefs and perceptions of who is our "enemy" and who is our "friend" by deliberate obstructionism and McCarthyism.Israel and fifth-columnists in America have largely controlled our "free press" to limit the truth about the occupation and the Palestinian struggle to end the repression,apartheid,occupation,illegal colonization (settlements),collective punishment and abuse of ALL Palestinians by Israeli forces and "settlers".There will be no peace with AIPAC in existence.
The ever growing power of this group of extremist fifth-columnists to subvert OUR foreign policy in their supposed interest, at the expense of OUR real interests, is a clear and present danger to the United States. AIPAC and the other numerous pro-Israel groups like JINSA, AEI, & PNAC also subvert our electoral process to such an extent that if a candidate does not kowtow to this group of war-mongers, they will be attacked in the most extreme vitriolic manner, witness their vicious attacks on Pres Jimmy Carter and professors Walt and Mearsheimer. ANY criticism of Israel or its racist policies & occupation/colonization (theft) of Palestinian land is met with howls of outrage & the worn out charge of "anti-Semitism". The ugliness of their attacks is representative of their mistreatment of the Palestinians under the brutal occupation and policies of collectiv
What ever problem he may or may not have with the Jewish nation is of no importance. America has a hidden obligation to support, represent & defend the Jewish state, whether or not they are wrong or right on any issue. The real problem is, Obama does not have the intrinsic capabilities to manage & execute the responsibilites of the President of the United States of America. With this said, he should be removed from the status as the democratic nominee & replaced with someone possessed with a far higher degree of political wisdom & experience. Obama is only in the infancy of his political career & if this is not done, there
will be deep regrets not only within the confines of the American borders but by the entire world.
http://www.fightthesmears.com
I visited th fightthesmears site and no where in there did I see that the statement below is a non-truth. LOL
Obama does not have the intrinsic capabilities to manage & execute the responsibilites of the President of the United States of America
So? That's an opinion, not a fact. You can't rebut an opinion.
Here's the site again:
http://www.fightthesmears.com
That is what I said, so? I know it was an opinion. I was being 'funny in my reply'. So why post the website for people to followup on an opinion? Thats all Im saying. What I dont get is why Obamba doesnt have the rumor about Larry Sinclair on his fightthesmear site given it is rampantly spread about on the internet just like that other rumor about the michelle whitey remark. As of yesterday, the only rumor they had up there was just the whitey remark on tape supposedly in a networks hands.
the horrors of either Hillary Clinton Attorney General or John Kerry Dept of State after he lied to Congress in 1971 over non killings he alleged never saw, worse part John McCain could reach across and tap both for his cabinet, 4 years of terror will began either with Obama or McCain. You can always spot a lib favorite George Lackoff word moron.
Why is it that the mouth-breathing conservatives are always semi-coherent? Are they all hopped up on hillbilly heroin like their hero, Rush Limbaugh?
Obama never mentioned his mother, in any of his speaches?
It sounds very strange to me, is he trying to hide the fact that he is 50% white and 49% Arab (his father is an Arab Kenyan), this is why he does not have the typical features of an African.
Axelrod has done an excellent snow job on us the black people, and we fell for it.
Obama does not have a Jewish problem, he has an Arab problem!!!!
Can you name any living or dead president that has mentioned his mother in his speech? I will give a count of infinity, stop, don't answer, wtf is the difference if someone mentions his mother and father in a speech? Is that the premise of what makes a good potential president? So by your logic, if Idi Amin talked about his mom in any of his political speeches, therefore he would not have been a mass murderer and ruthless person/president in Africa? So If Adolph Hitler talked about his mom in his speeches, therefore he would be a nice guy? What is your point?
Bush mentiuoned his mother Barbara many times, Gore mentioned his mother, HRC mentioned her mother, McCain mentioned his mother, Bill Clinton mentioned his mother.
I find it strange that Obama never mentioned his mother. I always look not only at what candidates say or do, but also at what they avoid saying. If you pay attention to what they avoid saying, you can learn a lot about that person.
For example I learned that Edwards is a coward, not from what he said, but from what he did not say.
That makes no sense. At least you are consistent.
http://www.fightthesmears.com
You are an idiot. There IS no such thing as a "typical African feature"--moron. Africa is a CONTINENT with many DIFFERENT countries, cultures, and people of different ethic backgrounds. These people look different. There is no typical look, dumbass. And no way are you a black person. If you are, you've been on the street corners all your life--holding your jock , rapping, and guzzling 40's.
Have you been in Africa? or are you talking from your ASS.
Do you speak any African languages? have you met the different tribes in Uganda, Ghana, Kenia, Somalia, Sudan, Zibabwaie, South africa, Namibia,....
Obama does not have the features typical to Kenyan tribes, he has the features typical to Kenyan/Arab muslims.
Educate yourself before you demonstrate your ignorance, and learn somem of the local languages.
The language I speak is English, ***--and I don't have to travel to Africa to know that there is no typical look for ANY group of people living in Africa--Europe, Asia, North America....
Get off your computer and read a book, moron. Talk to some Africans, study and read about their DIFFERENCES, and stop proving to everyone here what a dumbass you are.
http://www.fightthesmears.com
No, it's not a myth....but the controversy was an artificially created one, egged on by neo-cons and HRC supporters and her campaign. It nearly worked.......
HTTP://WWW.FIGHTTHESMEARS.COM for all who doubt the lies that people like promoron like to spread.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2008/020708_never_tortured.htm if you want to know about McCain's real millitary "record".
You Moron, so you are claiming that all the hunreds of people who were with McCain in the camp were dooped and are total idiots.
This is a claim made by the communists/marxists, you are a great supporter of the communists, and are against everything our enlisted/volunteered man stand for.
What can you expepct from Brown shirt Moron, he will go after his leader with closed eyes, the brown and black shirts went also after Hitler with their eyes closed.
Comprehension not your strong suit? I am not implying that at all. Now the 2 Amercian commanders that were there the same time as McCain say there was NO TORTURE, they are not the only ones who say it. I was not there, niether were you, McCian has recently SEALED his millitary records, funny huh, so all we as Americans have is EYE WITNESSES, who were saying this LONG before McCain was losing as a GOP nom.
DO the research, the truth is out there, you just can't look at McCain's Mil records, hmmm, I wonder why?
A Moron like you is not capable to respond to the facts in the web site, all what you know to do is to point to an Obama web site which by the way also supports my claims.
If I was in BOBAMAs campo I will reduce you in rank, he does not need iditots like you in his camp. It eliminates any cent of logic/integrity which he mi9ght still have.
Oh sweetie, I see you missed the McCian link there, what's the matter is you ascared of the dark...truth? poor yittle promoron, fraid of the facts and the black man, awe, it'll be ok honey, daddy won't touch your no-no place anymore ;)
Just what are you muslim haters going to do about all the muslim Americans? They are as American as you are if not more......How can an Americans be so hateful against other Americans, when this is the pride of America, people of all races and all relilgions side by side for a common cause. One Nation under GOD with liberty and justice for all.....remember!!!
I don't have a problem with muslims, in fact I admire some of the Muslim traditions. The problem is the Muslims who can't seperate themselves from Terrorist and suicide actions. This stands in contrast to the recent traditions of the western and actually most of the rest of the world.
If can seperate yourself and condem and actively act against such terrorist activities, than I and probably most americans feel fine about you.
Now on this one I agree...Strapping bombs to themselves and blowing up abortion clinics, shoot those are "christians". I meant molesting thousnds children for decades and then trying to cover it up...d@mn it! Catholics, my bad, wait which religous extremists were we talking about?
Obama is a dangerous combination:
He combines the worst of Presidents Bush AND Carter.
Remember Bush slogan "I am a Uniter not a Divider", a candidate full of hot air, without any history who promises a lot and delivers a disaster.
Carter is the worst president that the USA ever had. He brought us an inflation rate of 20% due to his dumb economic policies, he created Iran as we know it today, controlled by the ayatollahs, he made sure that there is no peace between Israel and the Palestinians, he reduced our Military to zero (we needed President Reagan to reverse Carters stupid inaction), see who are Obama foreign policy advisors most of them are the same failures who served during the Carter administration...
Obama brings a combination of the two; he is full of hot air, chants like a Parrot ???Change??? and is expected to be a total disaster.
Obama was a disaster in every place he served as a community organizer, look at his neighborhoods in Chicago: The Crime rate went up, the out of wedlock birthrate went up, educational achievements went down, welfare went up, this is what he wants to deliver to the rest of the USA.
Vote for McCain he is an excellent substitute for HRC.
Vote for McCain if you want your children to sleep safely at night.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2008/020708_never_tortured.htm the Republicans used this against McCain in 2000....
The sign of a great leader is someone who can make mistakes, ADMIT to their mistakes and grow. Obama has taken challenges head on and when he is wrong he says he is wrong. Great leaders make mistakes, admitting to them, and grow like hell to fulfill a higher purpose.
Your remark abou the worst president and Carter, I refer you to http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/worstpresidents/
In a most recent poll, Bush is right on top of the list now...again get your facts correct. Change is what our country is begging for....Are you personally better off then you were eight years ago?.
Economic policies of Carter...new evidence is showing that the Federal reserve deserves as much as anyone during those years of inflation. Carter had brokered the peace deal between Egypt and Israel during his term....what has Bush done? Again no research means that you are going to be torn to shreds on your remarks....
Finally, in 2000 McCain was swiftboated by his own party...see http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2008/020708_never_tortured.htm I will sleep better after you read the URL
Go read and learn, Carter did nothing to help the peace deal between Egypt and Israel, it was Saadat and Dayan who in secret meetings came up with the process and the methods to reach a peace deal.
I spent time talking to egeyptians and Israelis involved in the process. The main credit goes to Kissinger who during the 73 war stopped israel from destroying completely (killing) the Egyptian army, they were sourounded in the dessert without water and it was a question of one to two days for them to die from thirst. Kissinger convinced the Israelis to allow a supply of water to them. This impressed Saadat som much that he decided to take the peace direction Carter had nothing to do with it, and in fact during the negotiations between Begin and Saadat he almmost killeld the process with his stupidity.
Regarding the federal reserve, you should learn "the buck stopps here..), Carter is good at blaiming everyone else for his failures, are you trying tom con vince me that he was a good president, when everyyone agrees that he was a total disaster? How comme Clinton was able to balance the budget and improve the economy with the same Federal reserve????
When a leader makes too many mistakes, we [pay the price. See Bush and Carter as examples. WSait I made a mistake, earth pays the price, not only the USA.
I don't want in the WH that takes 13 months for him to come up with a correct policy to handle Iraq. It took Obama 13 months to move from "I will remove the US forces from Iraq on day one" than he ahd intermediate positions (basically movin g and copying like a Monkey HRC positions), and now he is finally saying "it will take a year or more to remove the USA forces, and we will leave a contingency force in Iraq, and by the way we will have forces, near Iraq and Iran to come backm if needed", I will not support the learning costs of a rooky.
SUGGESTION TO OBAMA SUPPORTERS: If someone challenges you with a statement showing weakness in your candidate, rather than tell them to go off and figure it out themselves ( e . g. Posted By: marksgershenson @ 06/13/2008 00:22:46 ) , why not provide some supporting information in your response about your candidate back to the blogger. It is much more beneficial to provide the blogger with supporting information in a response, like I did below. Just a suggestion. . . .
- Sharenews, registered Independent, undecided vote.
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BARACK OBAMA - COMMUNITY ORGANIZER for the Developing Communities Project (DCP), which focused on black city neighborhoods.
It was said that the work of Obama--and hundreds of other organizers--did not transform the South Side of Chicago or restore lost industries. By Obama's own admission, there were few victories. But whether it was getting the city to fill potholes, provide summer jobs, or remove asbestos from the apartments or persuading the apartment managers to repair toilets, pipes, and ceilings, Obama encouraged residents to come up with their own priorities stressing that it was their community.
OBAMAs words: ???I can't say we didn't make mistakes, that I knew what I was doing,??? Obama recalled three years ago to a boisterous convention of the still-active DCP. ???Sometimes I called a meeting, and nobody showed up. Sometimes preachers said, 'Why should I listen to you?' Sometimes we tried to hold politicians accountable, and they didn't show up. I couldn't tell whether I got more out of it than this neighborhood.???
MY summary: Obama did not have significant accomplishments that came out of his years serving as a community organizer to justify as part of his experience to be worthy of him running for President, but it was a period of time in which he knew he wanted to be involved in a greater capacity to assist people in defining their mutual interests and working together to improve their lives in the community. This eventually drew him into the political arena where he campaigned for and obtained the seat of Illinois Senator.
I will not reply to a bigot except by givie a webite or websites that have factual information. In regards to the posting of TogetherinParis, the bigotry showed. If you look throughout this blog, I have posted many things besides websites being posted. So is your summary a question for me?
Why should I waste my time on web sites, developed and maintained by Obamas brown shirt soldiers.
Learn to read IP addresses so you know who is behind each site. In professional terms this is called fraud!! But why should such facts bother an Obama brown shirt!!
I see that you will be promoted soon to a black shirt in Obamas army. What an accomplishment.
By the way, how much does Obama pay you to spread his lies? If he will pay me handsomely, I might also spread his lies. After all I am a believer that ALL politicians are crooks. We need simply to pick the crook who can acomplish something.
so I guess www.dividedwefail.org and www.factcheck.com are websites that have been created by Obama and crew? Those websites are non-partisan which means both Republicans and Democrats share the same interest....
I have a Bridge in Brooklyin to sell you. The fact that someone claims he is not Partisan does not mean that this is the truth.
I will try to make it simple for you. MSNBC claims that they are not Partisan, you have to be a total Idiot to believe it. The same holds for FOX (fair and balanced).
And so probably this was the beginning foundations of what his higher purpose is in life. I agree with your summary. You are presenting a very logical summary...and no argument from me.
See the thing for me when I saw the article, Obama admits his past failures, what was right, and what went wrong. This human side is not normally shown in the political arena. And when was the last time McCain talked this way about anything he failed at doing?
I was a huge McCain fan in 2000. The world is in a much different place. And the United States is bogged down in a quagmire, gasoline prices are making people choose between eating and getting gasoline so they can go to work. The economy is in the toilet.
I said in prior postings, and I will say it again, McCain is slipping a little bit. He is saying one thing and meaning another. I think it is a sign of his age...again it saddens me to say those things...every person has slips, no question, but the types of slips I am seeing are on the scary side...that a possible president cannot afford to make....
Here give this a glance...I can't believe what it says about John McCain...Am I wrong about him?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2008/020708_never_tortured.htm
Why should I waste my timme on web sites, developed and maintained by Obamas brown shirt soldiers.
Learn to read IP addresses so you know who is behind each site. In professional terms this is called fraud!! But why should such facts bother an Obama brown shirt!!
Hey ProMoron...it's a McCain link there babe, not Obama, if you don't want to know facts, then don't vote.
Moron,
This is an Obama site, trying to sell itself as a McCain site. This is typical to the Black shirts of Obama.
The same tactics were used by Hitler Black shirts.
You know, I challenged you to back your off the wall statements. What do you mean by fraud? Fraud by whom? Nobobdy is telling you to post. What me and several other people have suggested over and over again, when you post information, explain where you got the information. Look what HDavidson showed on the post above you. Support your posts with facts, not emotions.
Obama backers and McCain backers are not here to attack you. But, show some meat to what you are saying, back it up with good resources. I am independent in my thinking. I put things out for people to chew on and expand their thinking just a wee bit...I find it amazing how many things I learn every day about politics, and how people see the candidates. I do not know everything; I enjoy reading and learning. Perhaps if you would post less the emotion, I will discuss anything except sports, because frankly the last time I followed it was when the Lakers were playing Boston in the 60's...
Obama is a dangerous combination:
He combines the worst of Presidents Bush AND Carter.
Remember Bush slogan "I am a Uniter not a Divider", a candidate full of hot air, without any history who promises a lot and delivers a disaster.
Carter is the worst president that the USA ever had. He brought us an inflation rate of 20% due to his dumb economic policies, he created Iran as we know it today, controlled by the ayatollahs, he made sure that there is no peace between Israel and the Palestinians, he reduced our Military to zero (we needed President Reagan to reverse Carters stupid inaction), see who are Obama foreign policy advisors most of them are the same failures who served during the Carter administration...
Obama brings a combination of the two; he is full of hot air, chants like a Parrot ???Change??? and is expected to be a total disaster.
Obama was a disaster in every place he served as a community organizer, look at his neighborhoods in Chicago: The Crime rate went up, the out of wedlock birthrate went up, educational achievements went down, welfare went up, this is what he wants to deliver to the rest of the USA.
Vote for McCain he is an excellent substitute for HRC.
Vote for McCain if you want your children to sleep safely at night.
You're right, Mccain is a great substitute for HRC. Nearly the same age, both for war, they both have supported Cheney and Bushes policies. Great A$$ertion.
As usual an Obama Brown shoirt twists the truth.
Obama voted for every pro war law/regulation//budegt that was brought up in the Senate. So as usual his retoric is a lie when compared to reality.
Go back to your corner and try to come up that is close to the truth, if you know what it is.
very weak attempt Brown Shirt.
It's not a "hidden" obligation as much as a biblical obligation, rember the second coming, that's what this is all about, it's all it has ever been about..."the chosen"...lol
Obama has more of the quailities required of a president than anybody in recent history to have ran. He has shown dignity, restraint, maturity, confidence (not ego), faith, compassion, TRUE courage, HONESTY, dierctness, he listens, he ANSWERS, he is intelligent (among the "elite"), love for his country and it's people beyond any other candidate, he represents honest and real change, he speaks from his heart not his wallet. He has been POOR and on welfare, he knows what's it's like, he TRULY is a man of the people. AND he can admit when he is wrong (mccain/bush/clinton will never admit fault).
He has 1 more year of experience than Lincoln and 1yrs less than JFK. So what is your point, that he does not have all the BAD habbits of "experienced" politicians, that he does'nt know the "game"?
The "NEW GAME" is what matters, honesty, dignity, strength, compassion, restraint, GOOD judgment, intelligence, that is the "NEW GAME" and it's not a "game", it's how it should be. When it comes to that, McCain, Clinton, Bush, Clinton1, are the ones lacking the "intrinsic capabilities".
Obama, unlike the other candidate, LOVES the CONSTITUTION, taught constitutional law, McCain can't ever say "constitutional". Let alone uphold it.
Now if you doubt me, prove me wrong, show me how any one of the words used to describe Obama can be applied to either McCain or Bush (or even clinton). Now don't make a fool of yourself, be smart and answer clearly, but show me...please ;)
Obama is a dangerous combination:
He combines the worst of Presidents Bush AND Carter.
Remember Bush slogan "I am a Uniter not a Divider", a candidate full of hot air, without any history who promises a lot and delivers a disaster.
Carter is the worst president that the USA ever had. He brought us an inflation rate of 20% due to his dumb economic policies, he created Iran as we know it today, controlled by the ayatollahs, he made sure that there is no peace between Israel and the Palestinians, he reduced our Military to zero (we needed President Reagan to reverse Carters stupid inaction), see who are Obama foreign policy advisors most of them are the same failures who served during the Carter administration...
Obama brings a combination of the two; he is full of hot air, chants like a Parrot ???Change??? and is expected to be a total disaster.
Obama was a disaster in every place he served as a community organizer, look at his neighborhoods in Chicago: The Crime rate went up, the out of wedlock birthrate went up, educational achievements went down, welfare went up, this is what he wants to deliver to the rest of the USA.
Vote for McCain he is an excellent substitute for HRC.
Vote for McCain if you want your children to sleep safely at night.
Don't get me wrong, I do not dislike Obama, he has interesting potentials but they need to be developed & tested on a wider scale in the political spectrum. Right now you have exagerrated his capabilities, this is what you will like him to be, but it is not who he really is. Let me tell you bluntly, I am no fool, foolish are the people who support Obama for president, foolish are the people who fell for his charm endorsed by his magnficent oratory skills. Let's examine his political exposure & see what we got. We have a rookie senator who is likeable, thus be became electable & that's all there is to it. Obama was able to convince his supporters that he has the solutions to the numerous problems facing the American nation, both national & international. In his campaign address to the public, Obama did what all politicans must do, tell the people what they want to hear & fortunately they believed that he will deliver in accordance with his campaign promises - perfectly normal. However, their belief is based not on his capabilities but on their admiration for him as a person, they developed a natural likeness for him, it cannot be explained better than that. Admiration is a powerful expression, it could take you to places where you do not deserve to be & this is exactly the case with Barack Obama.
Well thank you for that and fortunately you fall into that 18 to 23% that thing all is well. However what I asked was which of these word fits either McCain/Bush/Clinton? You gave me nothing in response, and you are correct so on that we agree? As for your oppinion on Obama, well it's your oppinion ;) Tahnk you for answering my question even if you did not mean to...lol
As for some of the other qualities you mentioned, true courage: McCain enlisted in the military to fight in the Vietnam War. Two of his sons are in the military, and one has fought in Iraq. So honor is a family tradition. McCain was also a POW, and when his captors said they would let him go because his father was an admiral, he refused to be used in their propaganda and refused unless they released his fellow prisoners. He refused special treatment.
And as for compassion: John and Cindy McCain adopted a baby from Mother Teresa's orphanage, named Bridget. She would have died if they hadn't brought her back to the states. They also brought back another baby which was adopted by one of McCain's aides.
http://www2.scholastic.com/browse/article.jsp?id=3748634
As for intellegence, McCain's demostrated that he tried to do the right thing even if it's not popular. Like going against the tobacco industry back in the 90's. Or supporting stem cell research when the conservatives in his party disagree. And going "green" and supporting enviromental issues. He also opposes partial-birth abortion (except on life of mother), which is better than Obama who seems to think that having a baby born and then crushing it's skull is okay by him.
Obviously he must not be the horrible guy democrats are saying now, when just 4 years ago, there was talk about having him run as Kerry's VP.
WOW! Where do I start? Ok, first off, John McCain did not enlist to "fight in Viet Nam", he did what his daddy told him to do. He was was a poor student, who spent most of his time drinking, and soliciting prostitutes. His lack of interest in an education, or desire to truly apply himslef to his training was made obvious when in ONLY 20hrs of "combat" (not real combat, on the ground face to face) after ONLY 20hrs of "combat" he was shot down, not while doing any heroic act, but because he SUCKED AS A PILOT, you see in his feeble 20hrs of "combat" he ad also crashed 5 jets prior to being shot down.
He DID do over 30 propaganda films for the VC, so you're WAY off there. According to the 2 American commanders in the camp the same time as McCain, ther was NO torture, McCain was brought in in bandages and a body cast, which was more than any other prisoner was given. He received such treatment because the first thing the COWARD said when he was captured was "my daddy's an Admiral!"
He as turn his back on the nations POWs to whom he swore he would NEVER use his "POW" status for political gain...what was that tour he did just last summer?
He turned his back on our sons and daughters fighting now when he did not even have the courage to show up to vote AGAINST the new GI BILL which supports our troops fighting these wars, and their families, why does he hate our troops?
As for his kids "serving" their a$$es should be on the front lines until it's over and the last American is home, period, daddy wants our kids to die for OIL, his should be the first to go, anything less than that is just more political theatre. Yeah he had a son in Iraq, in the green zone, NEVER left the green zone, and was a clerk, ONLY, remember "CLINGER"...lol
He is NO HERO, NO MAVERICK, nothing but an old man clinging to false glory and Bush "values".
I think that about covers it. Doubt me google his millitary record son, you'll see what a real coward he truly is, and a liar, and anti-American troops, yet pro "WAR FOR OIL"...(McCains words on 05/03/08)
I'm a little confused on how you don't think McCain has faith. The man was a POW for 5.5 years, yet never wavered in his faith and it grew even stronger, which impresses me greatly. How many men could go through despair like that, and still come out a stronger Christian than before?
http://christianity.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=christianity&cdn=religion&tm=21&gps=170_995_1020_591&f=00&tt=11&bt=1&bts=1&zu=http%3A//pewforum.org/religion08/profile.php%3FCandidateID%3D3
I think both men are of deep faith and conviction. However, faith alone is not enough to make a future president. We have had a president for these last eight years who was deep in his convictions of fatih, and where has that led our country? I see that there are certain things about Obama that H Davidson touched on that cannot be measured except for calling it perhaps character.
I said in a earlier posting that I think McCain of now is not the same person as he was back in 2000. I see a man who, unfortunately, and believe me I don't like saying this about anyone, perhaps losing it a little bit. If you asked me eight years ago about McCain I would have said that his character, his faith, and convictions would be someone I could look up to, and admire.
However, when I see him now, I think he is all over the map, trying to please everyone, rather than being the maverick that he claims to be and put out one message. Especially worrisome is his pandering message to the voters that he wants to temporarily stop the federal tax on gasoline. Would he have said that eight years ago? I don't think so even if the cost of gas was high...thats the character flaw that is going to hurt McCain in the long run.
I think that having faith is important, and is one part of a persons character. Having conviction of faith is fantastic. However, character of the people running for president is going to be much more important in this election than prior elections.
WOW... :-)
he is the only person that knows how to help jews.
Obama's as anti-Semitic as his crazy mother, strange Moslem roots and J. Wright 'church', so what? Nixon was anti-Semitic, too. Just because a person hates Jewish people for no reason ... hey, wait a minute. Who could ever be worse than Obama? King Saud? Maybe we could get a candidate that wasn't named after Sadam Housein? Maybe we'd better get Hillary Clinton? After all, she got more votes than Obama did in the primaries.
WOULD THAT BE THE SAME HILL-BILLY CLINTON THAT REFERS TO JEWS AS "JEW BASTARDS"??? AND WHAT ABOUT YOU, YA MASHUGENA FENAGGLER (I ain't jewish so I am not sure how to spell that, BACK-OF-THE-THROAT GEBBERISH and frankly, don't care)...
Hey TOGETHERINPARIS, YOUR FATHER'S YOUR MOTHER AND YOUR MOTHER'S A HOMOSEXUAL DONKEY... YOU ANTI-SEMETIC-JEW-BASHING-B@STARD.....
I am sure it is close enough to being correct... I didn't want to addrress the idiot and that is why I left the website on my reply
www.fightthesmears.com
Everyone take a look at Google: Songbird McCain...and then make your judgements. McCain is a fraud.
In a breakdown of top energy issues, you'll find the GOP is in favor of more options for energy than the Democrats.
ANWR Exploration
House Republicans: 91% Supported
House Democrats: 86% Opposed
Coal-to-Liquid
House Republicans: 97% Supported
House Democrats: 78% Opposed
Oil Shale Exploration
House Republicans: 90% Supported
House Democrats: 86% Opposed
Outer Continental Shelf (OCS) Exploration
House Republicans: 81% Supported
House Democrats: 83% Opposed
Refinery Increased Capacity
House Republicans: 97% Supported
House Democrats: 96% Opposed
That's startling information. Look at that again. Put another way, the Republicans are opposed to grinding our economy to a halt due to soaring energy costs and the Democrats are in favor of shutting down our economy and way of life.
oh great... NOW WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THIS CHLOE123 BEE-YA BEE-YA, DISTORTING FACTS AS SHE GOES'A WHORING FOR THAT WAR-CRIMINAL JOHNNY "AMERICA IS THE AGGRESSOR TOWARD THE VIETNAMESE" MC'CAINT...
CHLOE, WHY DON'T YOU WORRY ABOUT HOW YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE AND TAKE THOSE STATS AND STICK THEM UP YOUR THROAT (notice I didn't say down)...
STOP BEING A MC'CAINT MILKY-LICKER AND TRY TO THINK ON YOUR OWN...
YOUTUBE DOES, IN FACT HAVE THE MC'CAINT TAPES, WHERE HE DENOUNCES THE "IMPERIALIST GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES"... AS PER ONE OF THE BRAVE P.O.W.'S THAT WAS LOCKED UP WITH MC'CAINT HAS CONFIRMED THAT, "Not only did John sell us other prisoners out but, he gave the vietnamese, TOP SECRET INFORMATION and sold AMERICA OUT"...
Wasn't John Mc'cAINT the one that said, "the only good male jew is the one that's dead" and "the only good female jew is the one taking it in the rear"...
THAT ANTI-SEMITE JOHN MC'CAINT SICKENS ME... JOHN MC'CAIN IS AN ANTI-SEMITIC-JEW-HATING-OLDAZZ-PHART............
AND HE CHEATS ON HIS WIFE.... THEN AGAIN, AMERICA HAS A LOVE AFFAIR WITH THE JERKS THAT DO LITTLE THINGS THAT WILL EMBARRASS THEIR FAMILIES AND MAKE AMERICA LOOK BAD...
IF YOU HATE JEWS, THEN YOU ARE A SCUMBAG... JOHN "don't keep me in with the REST of the P.O.W.'s" Mc'CAINT, HAS BEEN IN THE SENATE, DURING SESSION AND HAD BEEN HEARD UTTERING, ANTI-SEMITIC BELITTLEMENTS REGARDING, THE 1ST DEMOCRATE TO SUPPORT HIM, WHO HAPPENS TO BE A JEW...
JOHN MC'CAINT IS A SCUMBAG............!
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