‘Anything Not to Go Back’

It is inexcusable that many in the military are on their 2nd, 3rd and even 4th tours of duty in Iraq. It would be bad enough had it been a neccessary war. However, it is a war based on the arrogance of the current inhabitant of the White House and his greedy little partner in crime down there in the bunker, aided and abetted by Don Rumsfeld, Condi Rice, & Co. accompanied by a "side dish" of non-intellegence by the CIA and no guts by anybody except the men and women in uniform. And I include "we the people" in the "no guts" category. When it became apparent that we had been duped, we should have taken the necessary steps to pressure congress for impeachment. Having said all that, I do believe we need a draft - it should never have been eliminated. The burden of defending and protecting this country should be shared by all. It is especially apparent at this point when we are breaking the back and the psyche of the all volunteer forces.

I will be deploying again in april. The soldiers harming them selves are idiots who don't need to be on the battle field. All you people who want the draft back are of two camps, First are the ones that want the draft back so that others besides themselves will be sent ( Cowards) and next are those that what the draft to help turn the American people againest the military ( Traitors). I do not want any of you on my battlefield!!!! Both kinds are the worst *** this country has to offer.

What do we expect, soldiers saying Iwill go back for the third,fourth time happily. Get real these soldier did not intend to join the foreign legion.Fight for commander and chief who is only interested in the oil fields.Threaten to veto G I Bill vet benifits.These soldiers don';t want to die for Corporations and in vain.

if you buy into the obama thing then you will have buyers remorse in 2010

One thing I strongly believe in is to bring back the draft and the war tax and no exceptions like College deferment. If you are able with two arms and two legs then your shipped off. I also would make sure each politicians kids go too so we all share the pain and this I know in my heart will make war truly the last resort. Men like Cheney when differed his way out of Vietnam or GW in the national guard during Nam (thanks to Dad) with such ease send an volunteer army out to war. Makes me sick!

Sorry, ArmyRanger, but I think you are misinformed about Obama's military stance. I'm a Republican and I was relieved to hear Obama say that while he wants a slow (18 month or more) withdrawal from Iraq, he wants to increase our presence in Afganistan and aggressively go after Al Queda. He also states that we need to put more money into the military budget in the near future, and increase the number of men and women in uniform, as well as provide important services to returning veterans. Obama comes across as rather hard nosed and pro-military, he just thinks that the war in Iraq was ill-conceived, since it was based on false intelligence (the weapons of mass destruction that never materialized) and was started without the support of the international community. It so happens that 69% of Americans agree with him about this, and since we are a majority rule democracy, a well-planned withdrawal from Iraq is THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.

As to your assertion that oil prices are at an all-time high because Muslims want Obama to be president, I'm not sure I follow you reasoning at all. Yes, much of the world's oil belongs to Muslim countries, who can set whatever prices they want. However, US based corporations like ExxonMobile also collude in this price fixing which is draining America and making us weaker economically. Both Clinton and Obama have faced this head on, saying that we need energy independence from oil, something I heartily agree with. So even though I haven't voted Democrat since Nixon was impeached, I'm breaking my 30 year GOP streak and voting for Obama this year, because our country is in DIRE STRAITS financially, and I want a President who realizes that we need to take action on our oil dependence, rather than Bush/McCain who obviously are in the oil industry up to their necks.

However, Army, I do have to commend you on your obvious patriotism. I just think that maybe you have been mis-informed about Obama's stance on the military, and about his supposed Muslim affiliations. There is a lot of nonsense floating around in the media. I'm sorry if it has effected your views, and I hope that you will go to the trouble of looking up Obama's real views, especially since he is likely to be our next President.

Honorable Member of Congress,
Please vote to block Iraq war funding until Congress implements the following changes to any Iraq war funding bill:

1. Cut Iraq war funding to HALF of the requested amount and continue to dial it down in successive funding cycles. This will send a message that we don???t intend to occupy Iraq indefinitely. It would also be a fair compromise between pro-war and anti-war factions.

2. Finance the Iraq and Afghanistan wars on a PAY-AS-YOU-GO basis. If we can stop increasing the deficit with war spending, that will be one less factor to weaken the dollar and raise the cost of oil.

3. Fund the CURRENT FISCAL YEAR ONLY so that there is less latitude and less money available to continue the war in Iraq.

68% of the public oppose the war in Iraq (CNN poll 4/28/08.) I hope that Congress??? actions on Iraq war funding will reflect this supermajority of public opinion.

A 14 year old kid was working at a Forward Operating Base near the Tigris River(1st Armored Division ,2003 Active Duty), I asked him why he was working instead at the new school? He said I have to provide for my family since my father was killed. I asked him how he was killed. He said that he was dragged out of his house and shot by the Iraqi Military, (during Hussein reign) because he was suspected of 'conspiring against the government??? that is sure some tasty Kool-aid. I guess that kid was part of the great conspiracy for the government to get the oil, hmm why then do we get the majority of the oil from Canada. http://www.eia.doe.gov/pub/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/company_level_imports/current/import.html
I guess you are right it is all a big lie.
As far as the soldiers that are harming themselves, there are other ways of getting out of overseas duty; of course, one has to relinquish their benefits in the process.
What it boils down to is that no one wants to go to war, and if one does, that individual has bigger problems. However, if one signs contracts then they are obligated to fulfill that contract with integrity. That is one of its main purposes, looking for an 'out' because they are faced with an obligation to do another tour is a breach of that contract. Being in a first tour and not able to deal with it, they should have not signed on again. I have reenlisted (Guard) with the knowledge that I will be going back overseas in the next year no matter who is president (not that I am a gung-ho soldier) but with open eyes, but I have signed a contract which I am bound too.
To R.R was stationed in 1/37 Armored Division Frieburg, Germany Jan 2002-Nov.2004 OIF 1
To those that do not want to deploy, there are easier ways to get out of the military; of course, you will have to give up your benefits???.
One can believe anything they wish, at the end of the day I sleep well. Plus, I am finished with speaking about things while thier are people with less than nothing. And those with more judge others.
Peace

Posted By: zades @ 06/08/2008 17:18:49
Comment: Thank you. You're a real soldier. I doubt that some of the people on here who perpetrate as having had the military experience during war time are being genuine.

Who wants to die for Iraq? That's the question... Especially when Bin Laden is still running around, making videos, and ensuring threats.


Maybe its because your so afraid to come back, thats why all these people are still running around. Im retired from the military and i am now back in Baghdad working. You should try it sometime instead of complaining about Osama still being alive.

Just WHAT did these people think they were signing up for when they voluntarily joined the military? Starbucks barista? Target cashier? Head waiter? Parking cars? Computer programmer? Mail room sorter? Nordstrom stockroom boy? Sorry, but I have zilch sympathy for people who join the military and then whine and complain because it's hard and dangerous. It's no secret this is a intense job, and nobody put a gun to their head to make them join. Why not instead do an article on the 99% who willingly and honorably serve and do as they are told, rather on the handful of slackers and traitors and criminals that refuse to go back? Oh, and it's pathetic and obvious that the liberals on this forum only seem to agree with the 1% who break their vows and contract with the government, and not
only dishonor themselves but the entire USA. The libs can't help showing their true colors: they hate the military, and anyone who works or leads in it.

One wonders how many people died or were hurt during the Clinton years, protecting him from all those scorned women and Hillary.

From LBJ through to Richard Nixon's departure by 'copter, care to tell us how many died in useless combat in 'Nam and the rest of Indo China?

As a nation we just cannot seem to survive without finding some reason to kill innocent people in other nations, be it Japan where we dropped the A-bomb even when it was crystal clear the Japs had no fight left, to the Korean conflict, through the Vietnam years, till our Saudi/Kuwaiti financed adventures in Iraq circa 1991 and 2003. With an invasion of Grenada in between somewhere, LOL.

We the people or we the sheep?

Wrong War! Wrong Reasons! Wrong Place!!!! And most important - By the Wrong Camander In Chief!!!!!!!!!
Anyone that argues with these wrongs is just not informed or is ill-informed.