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  • Posted By: robhall @ 06/11/2008 3:41:58 AM

    You'll be depressed. You'll be sad. You'll feel hurt, hurt, hurt. My heavens, there are easily available techniques these days that can quickly eliminate these feelings in a matter of minutes. All this article tells me is that the authors are ignorant of such techniques, and seem to want to encourage negative feelings. Where is the value there? Rob@fearless-you.com


    What an ignorant article!

  • Posted By: ozarkajuice @ 06/09/2008 1:55:02 PM

    This is a question for news and notes and other hillary supporters who are now voting for mccain. Poster news and notes says, the reason why he or she is not voting for Obamba is because he does not meet their standards.

    So my question is, What standards do you speak of? you guys like to say this statment, but never give us the details of this so called standards.

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 06/09/2008 2:06:26 PM

      Read my response to loriw where she inexplicably stated Hillary didn't meet her "standards". My point is, if Obama wants to win over Hillary supporters, he and his supporters have to stop insulting her

      • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/09/2008 2:13:07 PM

        When exactly has Sen. Obama insulted Sen. Clinton. Please provide examples. Let's not get started on the insults and threats that have been hurled at Sen. Obama. It really amazes me that so many of you care about my (or anyone else who did not vote for Sen. Clinton) opnion, This is a forum to express your views and opnions regardless of how ignorant, and there have been ignorant posters on both sides.

        It has always been about the candidates. And again, I state that I have never heard Sen. Obama behave in anyway other than respectful to Sen. Clinton. If you can think of an instance then please share,

        • Posted By: News and Notes @ 06/09/2008 2:28:27 PM

          I said Obama and his supporters have to stop insulting her. Obama stopped insulting her a while ago. As evidenced in this blog, his supporters continue to insult Hillary and Hillary's supporters.

          • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/09/2008 2:58:57 PM

            I am sorry but you stated that Sen. Obama insulted Sen. Clinton and I asked to to provide examples whether last year or today. And again regarding his supporters insulting her, nothing that has ever been said about Sen. Clinton compares to the racially charged threats and insults that have been hurled at him and his family by Clinton supporters. A lot of us are trying to get past this and come together but I keep reading that the DNC and Media GAVE the nomination to Obama and how Clinton's feelings were hurt. PLEASE!!

            Those of you who keep claiming this need to decide exactly what kind of candidate she was. Was she the magnificent fighter that you claimed she was or was she and is she still the weak, fraile little lady that needs to be handled with kid gloves to ensure that her feelings are not hurt. Pick one because she cannot be both! I am a woman and the latter is totally insulting to me.

            Hillary Clinton is a United States Senator, if she did not have the balls to play then she should have never entered the game. Get over this BS. It is about the candidates policy positions, I am unable to care whether or not you personally like Obama.

            • Posted By: News and Notes @ 06/09/2008 3:33:58 PM

              More Hillary insults. Providing examples won't subside your malice towards Hillary, so I won't bother.

              • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/09/2008 3:44:57 PM

                Again, you are not reading. I do not personally hate Clinton, I have had problems with some of the claims that she has made during her campaign, but again for the last time. The racisim and sexism comments have been made by the supporters. You keep stating that he has insulted her and I only wanted an example. The other poster mentioned the Annie Oakly comment. Your comment about my having malice towards Clinton is absolutely false and your comment about not bothering is a cop out.

                • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/09/2008 5:30:56 PM

                  Here is a doozy of an example:

                  Obama subtly gives Hillary the finger???. And ???.flecks Hillary off his shoulder during a speech:

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuFIDJkZ7NQ&feature=related

                  • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/09/2008 5:35:46 PM

                    That's a man scratching his face stupid. Info brought to you by a dunce. It was not - not even by a half-distance leap - a negative gesticulation. The desperation to lie and manipulate is confounding from you idiots.

                    • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/09/2008 5:50:29 PM

                      Hey Alvy,

                      i do not believe that they are still using the finger BS, it is so clear on the tape that he is scratching his face. I will stop here as I made a promise!!!!!!

                      • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/09/2008 6:16:03 PM

                        I think that once you go that route - you lose all credibility. There are things you can say - that are true. Why do these guys fly off the cliff with such immature lies? Obama is not perfect. He's fault-ridden like the rest of us.

                        • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/09/2008 6:53:12 PM

                          Yes, he is not perfect which was captured with that video.

                          • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/10/2008 6:31:42 PM

                            Share,
                            No human is perfect and the candidates are just that only human!

                            • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/11/2008 3:05:43 AM

                              I agree. So why do so many Obama supporters make him out to be a Messiah?

                      • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/09/2008 6:51:48 PM

                        Hey, sj, you asked for an example. I didnt just whip it out of no where for the fun of it (although I do get a kick out of how you gals/guys react to it). This one there is no way in h*ll you can defend. Well you can but there is no way we buy it. We have eyes and ears and instincts. Time to move on.

              • Posted By: loriw @ 06/10/2008 12:53:27 AM

                Where do you see in sjpersonal's post any Hillary insults? I don't see a single one and I re-read it again to be sure. Hillary protectors don't even read the posts before they come out swinging. News and Notes, if you have been around hear any time at all you would know that sjpersonal is probably the most respectful and diplomatic poster on these blogs. Try really reading the post next time.

              • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/09/2008 5:37:01 PM

                You are either terribly emotional or very stupid. Or both.

          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/09/2008 5:56:22 PM

            Excuse me, Obama did not insult Hillary Clinton. Where did you get this idea that he did? My god, Hillary and camp have trashed the man since losing Iowa, right from Day One. Pun intended.

          • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/09/2008 5:40:11 PM

            So what. It's a blog. If you feel personally insulted reading a computer to the point where it would change your belief system, you need more than blog support from Obama people. It's a blog stupid. An interactive book, a vehicle to write what you want. If you can't take the type of content coming from the site - change sites.

        • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/09/2008 5:25:56 PM

          Here is a doozy of an example:

          Obama subtly gives Hillary the finger???. And ???.flecks Hillary off his shoulder during a speech:

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuFIDJkZ7NQ&feature=related

          • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/09/2008 5:48:07 PM

            Come on the man was scratching his face. Do you really believe that a man who is a US Senator, who is Running for President of the United States would be so juvenile, so politically stupid to give his opponent the finger, and this is the killer, IN FRONT OF THE MEDIA???? I saw him brush his shoulder, I do not remember whose comment he was brushing off, but so what, how is this really revelent? Do you mean to day that these are important issues for you? Is this really all that you have to complain about, is this what you are using as justification for not voting for Obama? Seriously, really is this what you have?

            • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/09/2008 6:30:00 PM

              Hey someone wanted an example about Obama reflecting an insult on Hillary. So I gave an example. I know how much you guys/gals love this video and try to explain it away. But us Hillary supporters know what we saw, and to reinforce this thinking, we know what we heard with his supporters cheering on cue with each of these two actions he made. That is what makes it all the more disrespectful and insulting He is doing this in reference to a fellow candidate on a podium where he is making his stance as to why he should be the President of the U.S. So there ya have it.

              • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/09/2008 10:53:52 PM

                YOUR EXAMPLE HAS NO TEETH, DO YOU ?

                • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/09/2008 11:53:52 PM

                  Have my teeth firmly planted, but actually 'what did you say? Huh?' I can't hear ya, I have my hearing aids out.

                  • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/10/2008 1:06:35 AM

                    IF HE CAN'T HEAR ME ?

                    bite me !

          • Posted By: glimps @ 06/09/2008 6:01:11 PM

            your brain waves are soooooo off........ if you really think he was brushing her off his shoulders then your really lost.. ( well in your thought process; he should be brushing her off he is married)... LOL !!

            you are extra out !!

            • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/09/2008 6:19:46 PM

              Yeah, you gotta be right there. No, wait, maybe he ran out of Head and Shoulders shampoo. I guess if he can whip out a hankie an honk his nose majorly on stage in frount of thousands of people he could stnad there in the middle of a speech and fleck off his dandruff. Yeah, right, the more I think of that has to be what he was doing . . . NOT. LOL

              • Posted By: glimps @ 06/09/2008 7:08:19 PM

                Good come back......

                he could have been bushing off all that stinch ( from the bathroom tactics)....... the is smell is (crazy that they both give off)......

                • Posted By: loriw @ 06/10/2008 12:45:07 AM

                  Only a die hard Clinton supporter would be an expert on STINCH which is not a word but might be a cross between STINK and STENCH.

          • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/09/2008 5:58:53 PM

            I had a college professor who always pointed to the chalk board with his middle finger - I guess she was flipping off the board too.

            • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/09/2008 10:52:30 PM

              I ALWAYS ENJOY A GOOD MIDDLE FINGER SALUTE TO THOSE WHO WAVE THEIRS FIRST.

          • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/09/2008 10:50:20 PM

            JUST BRUSHING OFF THE NASTY RHETERIC.

            I AM THE ONE WHO GAVE HER THE FINGER AND MY FINGER IS STILL DOING IT ---------REALLY !

          • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/09/2008 5:41:33 PM

            If a "doozy" is a guy scratching his face. The kind, type and frequency of your lies are "doozies."

            • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/09/2008 6:44:57 PM

              Lies? I saw what I saw and the Obama supporters cheering him on as he made each of these gestures clinched it for me. So there you have it. Live with it. He slipped up in the media's eye. Period.

          • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/09/2008 5:53:23 PM

            My, my newsie, ( may I call you newsie?) we're back to this finger flip nonsense again. Tell me you're just funning with us this time.

        • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/09/2008 10:48:06 PM

          BARACK MUST HAVE INSULTED THE WICKED WITCH; WHEN HE FAILED TO GIVE HER ENTITLEMENT.

        • Posted By: Texanna33 @ 06/09/2008 2:54:16 PM

          How about the Annie Oakley comment for one. Also, you don't have to personally insult someone when you have every one else doing it for you. The point STILL is, if he wants to win it's got to stop and he CAN control what his staffr has to say and not play into the media's non stop bashing.

          • Posted By: Mimi13 @ 06/09/2008 5:46:32 PM

            That wasn't an insult. That was teasing. When, exactly, is the last time your really think Hllary Clinton went duck hunting? When is the last time she even held a shot gun or a six-shooter or a pistol or any other type of firearm. It was a gentle, humorous jibe at Hillary's (pretty successful) attempt to portray herself as a good-ole-beer-swilling-duck-hunting-pinnocle-playing-town-girl, when in fact she is a ivy-educated-two-mansion-owning-Hyannisport-vacationing-chablis-drinking-designer-pants-suit-wearing-city-liberal. From the perspective of the Hillary camp, the jibe struck a nerve because it was "right on" and so they had to take offense.

      • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/09/2008 10:46:15 PM

        NEWS !

        THE WICKED WITCH IS DEAD !

        NOTE !

        YUP ! SHE IS .

      • Posted By: Just Us Plz! @ 06/09/2008 2:14:36 PM

        When has he ever insulted her???? Bill has done most of the insulting this campaign!!

    • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/09/2008 5:42:15 PM

      The white standard.

      • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/09/2008 10:44:38 PM

        ALVY !

        YO SO RIGHT BOSS !

        ROCHESTER ! NOW CUT THAT OUT !

        O K ! BOSS.

  • Posted By: chindognyc @ 06/09/2008 9:49:35 PM

    I read a comment that made so much sense. The way white america is against Obama, it reminds me of the book "Mein Kampf." Hitler was proud of America because of there hate for any other race except white. He liked the way White America hated every other race and wanted them out of there country. We have resorted back to that stage. When States like Ohio, WV, PA, and Ken say that they voted for Hillary because she is white, we then go back to what Hitler loved. How can we tell other countries to love one another and we are going back to what Hitler loved, to hate any other race but the white race.

    • Posted By: RetiredMarine @ 06/10/2008 5:16:48 PM

      boy, I will die of NOT Surprized! Another one of those "if you don't vote for Obama you must be a racist" posts

      • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/10/2008 10:26:42 PM

        DON'T DIE BIGOT ! DON'T DIE !

        HELL IS VERY HOT !

        I HEAR THEY USE BIGOT LOGS.

    • Posted By: Deetsjeeter @ 06/09/2008 10:33:09 PM

      You sir/mam have been smoking to much hemp!

    • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/09/2008 9:59:23 PM

      HEIL ! HITLARY. HEIL ! ED RENDELL.

      HEIL ! ALL YOU NAZI HATE MONGERS.

      EVER NOTICE THAT HEIL IS VERY SIMILIAR TO H E L L !

      • Posted By: chindognyc @ 06/09/2008 10:09:05 PM

        Are you saying Hell to Hillary and the Democratic party?

        • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/10/2008 12:54:55 AM

          HILLARY YES !

          DEMOCRATIC PARTY NO !

  • Posted By: Jim F @ 06/10/2008 5:28:20 AM

    Hillary Clinton once used the term "Jew Bastard" when referring to a co-worker she had a disagreement with in the Rose Law Firm, I can only imagine her terminology towards Obama after he busted her bubble of what she felt was an entitlement and I'll bet it wasn't just the (N) word.
    Nice to see her and Bill slamed with reality. Maybe they should go on a second honeymoon now that they both have more time to share.

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/10/2008 6:25:23 AM

      How can you make lambastic claims like that without providing the source of the said information. Pls. provide the source link for such destructive info.

      • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/10/2008 11:51:11 AM

        That's sounds funny coming from you. All you do is make stuff up.
        In your defense though, it does sound phony.

        • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/10/2008 7:55:11 PM

          Alvy, I do not make stuff up. Most posts I include my source of information. But thank you ...it has to be phoney. No link provided to us yet.

          • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/10/2008 10:23:36 PM

            I GUESS YOU GUYS DON'T WANT TO BE NEAR ME WHEN I GET ANGRY.

            Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr !

    • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/10/2008 10:20:47 PM

      WHERE WILL HILLARY GO; WHILE, BILL DOES HIS THING ?

    • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/10/2008 6:28:02 PM

      I agree with Share,

      Please provide verifiable sources when you post comments such as this. Otherwise it just appears that you are just trying to keep the hate going. If she said this there will be a link, the candidates cannot sneeze without it being either caught on tape or noted in a reputable newspaper.

  • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/10/2008 10:06:38 PM

    SJPERSONAL !

    BELOW !

  • Posted By: Judyco @ 06/09/2008 2:37:55 AM

    What are you people at Newsweek talking about? You sound totally degranged! You are totally sick and I hope you are aware that with all of the undeserved Hillary bashing that you have engaged in has been a total diservice to her and all of the women in America. And to all of you Obamaites still bashing her, there are 18,000,000 of her supporters who are going to make it extremely difficult for Obama to see the door of the White House. Just keep it up!

    • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/09/2008 11:18:50 AM

      What All Women are you refering to. News Flash Every Woman in America DID NOT vote for Clinton. You Ladies! really need to chill with all of the over the top emotional BS. This was a contest for goodness sake, but all I am reading is that they, meaning All of the Major News outlets, the DNC, and everyone else who did not agree with Sen,. Clinton RAPED her, were MEAN to her, made her CRY, BULLIED her, DISRESPECTED her.ect. OMG!! This is why a lot of people do not believe that we women have what it takes to run the country. You really need to decide on exactly who Sen. Clinton is, is she this magnificent fighter or is she the Little Woman whom needs to be handled with kid gloves so that her FEELINGS will not be hurt. She is the one who stated "If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen"

      • Posted By: loriw @ 06/10/2008 1:14:43 AM

        Again sjpersonal--very, very well said.

        • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/10/2008 5:57:25 PM

          Thanks Lori,

          But I am really working on toning it down, basically ignoring a these types of comments in the name of unity! It is not easy, as some of these people are just crazy.

    • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/09/2008 12:03:12 PM

      JUDY ! JUDY ! JUDY !

      DEGRANGED ?

      UNDESERVED ? HILLARY EARNED IT EACH AND EVERY MUD SLINGING DAY

  • Posted By: ducktoed @ 06/09/2008 2:39:07 AM

    No one is going to touch Hillary as a VP candidate. She has that liability named BILL.

    • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/09/2008 11:58:58 AM

      KILL BILL !

      THEN GO AFTER HILLARY LIES.

      • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/09/2008 2:01:01 PM

        Hi T,

        I thought you said that you were being good??? This is not nice.

        • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/09/2008 11:22:42 PM

          I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE MOVIE ------------------ REALLY !

          SORRY ! I JUST CAN'T BE GOOD, ASK MY WIFE.

          SHE LOVES ME FOR MY HEART.

          FACING THE PROSPECT OF HER DEATH FROM CANCER ! I PRAYED FOR GOD TO TAKE ME INSTEAD.

          HE GAVE US BOTH MORE TIME, HE REALIZED I WAS NOT DONE FIGHTING INJUSTICE ON EARTH.

          I AM JUSTICE !

          • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/10/2008 5:52:50 PM

            I am sorry that your wife is ill but so very glad that she is still with you and will pray for a full recovery for her and a very long and loving life for you both.

            Be well and be blessed

  • Posted By: Chris Paris @ 06/09/2008 11:59:48 PM

    Does nayone remember Elizabeth Dole? Wasn't she an unsuccessful seeker of the nomination to be a presidential candidate? She failed right out of the starting gate, but a failure is a failure, and Hillary is not the first female to fail in this process. So why all the hype?

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/10/2008 12:11:21 AM

      Elizabeth Dole ran for the Republican nomination in the US presidential election of 2000, but pulled out of the race in October 1999 before any of the primaries started, largely due to inadequate fundraising. She can in no way compare to the historical race that Hillary rallied with Barack Obama.

      • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/10/2008 12:48:27 AM

        UNLIKE WICKED WITCH HILLARY, ELIZABETH DOLE HAD CLASS AND DEFINITELY LESS ASS.

        • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/10/2008 1:04:11 AM

          Maybe, really dont know OLD and TIRED. It was BEFORE MY TIME. She must have been missing somwthing on her resume if she couldnt give lift off to even make it to the primaries. Hillary Clinton 2012 !!

          • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/10/2008 1:20:05 AM

            YOUR RIGHT !

            ELIZABETH'S RESUME LEFT OUT:

            1. LIES.

            2. EMBELLISHED RHETERIC.

            3. FALSE ENTITLEMENT.

            4. MARRIED TO BIG ADULTEROUS BUBBA.

            5. STRONG URGE TO SLING MUD.

            6. DONATIONS FROM FOREIGN COUNTRIES.

            • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/10/2008 1:23:32 AM

              Whatever, T and O, WHATever makes you happy.

              • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/10/2008 5:49:14 PM

                WHAT MAKES ME HAPPY IS GETTING A BREAK AFTER WORKING OUTSIDE ALL DAY IN MY YARD.

                A COOL DIET MOUNTAIN DEW WITH ICE, BIG AND RICH (10 FOOT TALL IN A 6 FOOT TOWN ) MUSIC ON MY MP3 PLAYER, WATCHING THE CLOUDS PASS BY ON A SLIGHT COOL BREEZE, SITTING IN THE SHADE ON A WARM DAY.

            • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 06/10/2008 1:08:28 PM

              You just like her coz she's a Republican. She was not a viable candidate, nothing like Hillary. Her husband is certainly bubba and I'd say he might be considered "adulterous" as she was his second or third wife. The first one, he just up and left (as they say in the South here), without any goodbye, no explanation, no talk... He just walked. He looks ancient now too, poor old sod. I hate it when Republicans compare Democratic female candidates for anything to their own home-grown GOPpers. They are just being partisan. Why don't you admit Hillary did extremely well - better than any other presidential candidate during a primary? She and Obama both inspired millions of people to come out and take part in the process. It is record-breaking.

              No, the Doles were boring as candidates... both of them. Mediocrity is just about the best the GOP has to offer these days.

              • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/10/2008 5:45:15 PM

                I TOLD YOU WHY I LIKED HER ---- CLASSY LADY !

  • Posted By: Saltydog_0 @ 06/09/2008 11:59:58 AM

    Can someone explain to me the belief that Hillary was a victim of sexism?

    I agree that the media favored Obama, but I don't see any evidence that they were motivated by gender. I certainly didn't hear Obama or anyone from the media make statements implying Hillary was a lesser candidate because she was a woman; quite the opposite, in fact.

    Many who cry "Sexism!", like mrubchak below, go on to say how they have been victimized by gender bias. The fact that those who see Hillary as a victim of sexism also happen to victims themselves, I believe, says more about the subject than the object. No doubt, mrubchak and many others HAVE been subject so gender discrimination. No doubt also, that such experiences have invariably altered the tint of the lens through which they view the world. When someone is motivated to find evidence of a wrong that they have based their very identity around, invariably they will find what they seek, whether their belief is supported by objective reality or not.

    In the case of Hillary Clinton, I simply don't see any evidence of a misogynistic cabal that conspired to keep her down. In fact, it seems to me that most people who failed to support Clinton did so despite her being a woman rather than because of it. I can understand a Clinton supporter being unable and unwilling to accept that she lost this election because people actually judged her based on her character. It is much more palatable to believe that she was a victim of prejudice and bigotry, but that simply isn't supported by fact. People don't care for Hillary because of who she is, not what she is.

    No doubt, someone will bring up isolated incidences of bigotry, such as the guy who held up a sign saying "Iron my shirts" or something similarly boneheaded. But such infrequent and inconsequential exceptions to the prevailing respect she received as a woman candidate are not the reason she lost. Please take a moment and compare her experiences with those of Obama. Every other anti-Obama blogger refers to him as Barrack HUSSEIN Obama. A massive email campaign continues to this day; falsely stating he is a Muslim educated in a school for terrorists. They say he won't salute the flag and was sworn in on the Koran. A picture of him wearing traditional "Muslim-looking" garb was released to bolster the false impression that he was Muslim. Who released the photo? HILLARY's CAMPAIGN!!!

    And she cries sexism. Sorry, I don't buy it. She gained respect because of her gender. She lost it because of her character.

    • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/09/2008 12:34:52 PM

      Great Post, whatever names Sen. Clinton was called was nothing compaired to what was said about Sen. Obama, calling for the KKK to do their job, statements such as "They used to be slaves now they want one in the WH! and "Hange that Darkie or Ni**er from a tree, are just a few examples.

      • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/09/2008 1:01:13 PM

        I HAVE BEEN GOOD SJ; YOU ARE GETTING MY ANGER TRAITS I SEE !

        • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/09/2008 1:57:34 PM

          Hey T, yes I have noticed it too. But really it isn't anger, it is just that I do not understand this position. The claim that because Clinton didn't win that they will vote McCain makes no sense. She even stated several times throughout the campaign that the differences between her and Obama pale in comparison to the differences between her and McCain. So if you voted for Clinton, why exactly is it that you outright refuse to vote for Obama? It must be some other reason than their policies which are for the most part the same.

          It makes no sense. Also I am suspect of all of the new bloggers since Thursday that are claiming to be Clinton supporters but their only purpose for posting is to sway other Clinton supporters to McCain!

          By the way Alvy has already spanked me about my posts LOL. I will try to do better. I just cannot tolorate Stupid!

          • Posted By: Nins @ 06/09/2008 2:18:00 PM

            Honestly, SJ, most of the real Clinton supporters who say that are voting for McCain are just mad, and as you know, anger cools off given time, if you stop bringing it up over and over. So all of us should stop bringing it up.

            Of course, there are bloggers who aren't Clinton supporters at all, but part of Operation Chaos, trying to drive a wedge between the Democrats. So as far as they are concerned, we shouldn't take their bait.

            Either way, it is up to us to focus on discussing the real issues of this election and leave the Obama/Clinton ruckus alone.

            I am only blogging about McCain's record, so that any waffling Clintonites can see who he really is. This will undoubtedly keep them from voting for him, if they really are Democrats.

            By the way, SJ, I love your posts, but agree with Tired&Old, who I am glad to see is toning ti down. Thanks, Tired!

            • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/09/2008 3:06:39 PM

              I know Nins. I am really trying, it is just that a lot of these posters make absolutely no sense. So from now on I will research McCains record and concentrate on that. I guess will not be posting much becasue the majority of the Clinton supporter posts or those who are pretending are all about the election being stolen, etc.

              Ok, check the time of this post, no more angry replies. Promise.

              • Posted By: Nins @ 06/09/2008 7:53:07 PM

                You're wonderful! And I'm counting on you to let me know if I ever go overboard. Thanks.

                • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/10/2008 5:48:35 PM

                  Ok, somehow I think that you have a lot more control than me. I just really have a serious problem with women playing the victim card. But I will do my best because we all really need to make sure that McCain does not get anywhere near the white house!

            • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/09/2008 11:01:04 PM

              I TONED IT DOWN ?

              OH ! MY GOODNESS !

              I GUESS I AM LOSING IT !

              I FEEL MY BREATHING GETTING SHALLOW, I FEEL CLOSER TO THE END.

              PLEASE SOMEONE PRAISE THE WICKED WITCH SO I MIGHT RECOVER AND BECOME THE INCREDIBLE CRAZY HULK !

          • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/09/2008 10:57:17 PM

            YOUR CORRECT !

            REPUGNANT REPUBLICAN SPYS AND STUPIDS ANNOY ME.

      • Posted By: Rocky2001 @ 06/09/2008 12:46:02 PM

        Thanks guys!!! McCain supporters really appreciate all your hard work.

        • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/09/2008 11:02:45 PM

          PERHAPS ! YOU MIGHT DO SOME HARD WORK TO ?

          BUT, DON'T WAKE JOHN !

      • Posted By: Just Us Plz! @ 06/09/2008 2:07:58 PM

        I know right thats just as horrible as Rastafari's and Halle Salasi saying that your people did not walk upright and drug their knuckles until Northern Africans came and civilized them, great post!

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 06/09/2008 1:31:10 PM

      What do you have to gain by getting an explanation? The primary is over. Stop the insults

      • Posted By: joe_mama @ 06/09/2008 4:01:59 PM

        I'm an Obama supporter and even I know lori is full of it.

        You'd be better of ignoring her/him

    • Posted By: loriw @ 06/09/2008 12:35:37 PM

      very well written post Salty Dog....."she lost it because of her character"
      and if I might add....and her husband's LACK of character.

  • Posted By: The "O" Team @ 06/09/2008 2:53:16 PM

    As for Barack "Radical" affiliations... I've heard several of Rev. WRIGHT's Sermons and... Sad to say, the man was and is WRIGHT ON POINT... I only hope that he and Mr. Obama can mend their split and that Mr. WRIGHT would be able to have some form of Official Clergical position in the Obama White House...
    Oh yeah, check the polls because Barack is about to MOP THE FLOOR WIT THAT OLD TRAITOROUS PHART known as MC'CAINT...
    SO DOES ANY ONE KNOW HOW MC'CAINT WAS RELEASED FROM HIS POW CAMP??? no... Well let me tell you... JOHN MC'CAINT WAS RELEASED BY THE NORTH VIETNAMESE AFTER HE DIVULGED STRATEGIC POSITIONS FOR HIS FATHERS FLEET... Now talk about being a Knut-Sack... OLD JOHNNY-Baby NEVER SUBSCRIBED TO the saying, "DEATH BEFORE DISHONOR"...
    Did you see the FOOTAGE of JOHNNY MC'CAINT when the COMMIES HAD HIM ON FILM, DENOUNCING THE EVILS OF AMERICA AND IT'S WAR MACHINE... MC'CAINT IS SUCH A PUSS (for lack of a better word) AND THIS IS THE OLD PHART THAT THE BIG "O" HAS TO RUN AGAINST???
    I HAVE ONE THING TO SAY...
    SEE YOU IN THE WHITE HOUSE MR. BARACK H. OBAMA...
    CONGRATULATIONS MR. OBAMA FOR CLOBBERING THE WAR-CRIMINAL, MC'CAINT WORSE THAN THAT, "SNIPER-FIRE HEROIN"...
    GOD BLESS AMERICA FOR FINALLY ALLOWING US TO ELECT, THE VOICE OF REASON THAT IS (say it with me)............................... OH............ OH................ OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IN OH-EIGHT...
    THIS JUST IN:
    THE OBAMA CAMP DOES IN FACT HAVE A COPY OF MC'CAINT'S ORIGINAL INTERROGATION... MC'CAINT DID IN FACT DENOUNCE THE USA AS "THE AGGRESSOR TOWARD THE PEACEFUL PEOPLE OF VIETNAM" AND IT IS SPECULATED THAT, THE ONLY REASON HE DIDN'T LEAVE PRISON, WHEN 1ST OFFERED IS BECAUSE WORD HAD GOT OUT THAT HE DID, IN FACT SELL OUT HIS COMRADES AND DIDN'T WANT THE STIGMA OF BEING A RAT-BASTARD...And this is the person that so many BLOCK-HEAD REPUB'S AND DISGRUNTLED DEM'S ARE VOTING FOR??? MC'CAINT IS THE WRONG PERSON TO, SEND ANYBODY TO WAR... SUPPORT THE EFFORTS TO HAVE MC'CAINT TRIED FOR HIGH-TREASON...We won't even mention his infidelity or his womanizing... I'll save the gory details for later... The TREASON VIDEO that will be made available on YOUTUBE should hold you over. That MC'CAIN'T, didn't look so hot in the video...THAT'S WHY OBAMA IS THE BEST CHOICE... HE DIDN'T SERVE IN THE MILITARY BUT HE IS A LEVEL-HEADED INTELLECTUAL (there hasn't been one of those in Office since KENNEDY) AND SO WE CAN REST ASSURED THAT, DIPLOMACY WILL BE THE PRIMARY VEHICLE TOWARD CONFLICT RESOLUTION...GOD IS BLESSING AMERICA AND WILL DO EVEN MORE, IF WE LET HIM...

    OBAMA '08

    • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/09/2008 3:31:26 PM

      Preach on, baby, baby.....PREACH ON!!!! Obama is too much of a gentleman to burn McGremlin w/ this intel. He can roast him w/o it. But, if McGremlin gets nasty w/ it.....we'll see how fast this becomes mainstream knowledge.

      Google : "Vitenam Vets Against John McCain" After he sold out the U.S., his stay in N. Vietnam became quite comfy. The Evangelicals, the ultra-conservatives, and the Christian-right are abandoning McGremlin. The only thing that'll keep this election tight is the "racist vote".

      • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/09/2008 4:02:23 PM

        Hi KB,
        I do not believe that Obama will be as polite dealing with McCain as he was with Clinton.

        • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/09/2008 10:38:19 PM

          SJ IS RIGHT !

          MC CAIN IS NOT TOUGH JUST VERY OLD AND FORGETFULL.

        • Posted By: News and Notes @ 06/09/2008 4:20:49 PM

          McCain won't be as polite in dealing with Obama as Hillary was either

          • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/09/2008 5:13:38 PM

            Yep, that's the Clinton reputation - nice.
            All this time I thought it was a wake of bodies.

  • Posted By: griffin1 @ 06/10/2008 5:25:09 PM

    Posted By: griffin1 @ 06/10/2008 4:45:55 PM
    Comment: I had to say this again, Did you hear about this?

    during McCain speech, he stated " he will veto every beer"

    Now what was this man thinking when he said this during his speech to the American people. Let's guess

    "BEER" come on folks think about this clearly....
    OBAMA 08'

  • Posted By: griffin1 @ 06/10/2008 5:22:08 PM

    Comment: I had to say this again, Did you hear about this?

    during McCain speech, he stated " he will veto every beer"

    Now what was this man thinking when he said this during his speech to the American people. Let's guess

    "BEER" come on folks think about this clearly....
    OBAMA 08'

  • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 06/09/2008 9:41:20 PM

    dreffein, not too many in the Dem party think Hillary is an enemy, not sure where you're getting that - I think Obama supporters are angry with her for running such a terribly divisive campaign. At times, I must admit I thought she was almost a Republican - she was TOO HEAVYHANDED toward Obama. She should have directed her ire and her supporters' frenzy against McCain earlier on. Now it is THEY who are having trouble thinking of OBAMA as anything but an enemy - which just frustrates everyone who supports Obama even more.

    Good luck with your pursuit, but the sooner we all unite against the Republican mess we're in, the better. Forget about everything else when it comes to this race and focus on helping Obama (and, by extension, Hillary too) to win the White House. Anything less, and your Hillary supporters against Obama, for McCain, are simply doing us all a huge disservice.

    I can't believe these spporters of Hillary's who are so disappointed that Obama won actually were led to believe that she had a chance if she won the popular vote. Is it so *new* to you all, the idea of delegates and superdelegates? Weren't you watching TV analysis - everyone had called Obama's win at least a couple days before he finally made his victory speech! We all could see he had the most delegates and was very close in the popular vote too.

    That's politics - like it or not - and I sympathize too - I think the whole system is stinky. But that was the set of rules the candidates all agreed on - even Hillary. You can't change the rules just because you're losing! Everyone knows that. Nobody got gypped - the press was pretty harsh on all the candidates when stupid distractions arose.

    • Posted By: dreffein @ 06/09/2008 10:39:42 PM

      No troubles - are you kidding me or just blind. Let's see, in the last hour check out Johnlovespeace, tired and old, Alvy, Obamayeswecan, etc. HRC supporters and I guess me have been called pathetic women, childish, bitter, myopic, ugliest infestation of the Democratic party....

      I have made a very strong attempt to remain open minded and not strike back at Senator Obama because of what his alleged supporters say about me, Hillary and her supporters. I have tried to work with some of the more rational and kind people on the Obama side to try to find a way we can all learn to work together but I've had it. You reap what you sow.

      • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 06/10/2008 1:18:12 PM

        Well, if I were you, I'd ignore the "rabble" (no offense to anyone here) and just focus your thoughts and comments on those "rational" posters - the rest are just a mess and having some fun, I guess. We live in a free country with free speech, and sometimes people get carried away.

        I think Obama supporters are upset at Hlllary and her fanatical supporters because some say they will defect to McCain. I think, in retrospect, if they were voting for her at first and then planning to go and vote for the GOP candidate, that these must be the folks who vote Republican mostly anyway. Either that or they're just being nasty. I think some of these posts are just nasty because they assume all votes for McCain over Obama, the Dem, are turncoats. So don't take anything too seriously - nobody really does in these posts, it seems to me. I'm just glad I can share and read thoughts somewhere - it's fun! Cheers - Obama '08

        • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/10/2008 4:15:33 PM

          Great way to look at it. I too am guilty of becoming to riled up about some of these posts.

      • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/10/2008 11:56:58 AM

        No you've been pretty mean. Your "attempts" to not crush Obama failed miserably. But like most of the fanatical, anti-depressant swilling bitters, you lie and deflect. But, compared to others of your ilk - you're only stupid - not insane. You cry to much and take blogging too seriously.

        • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/10/2008 12:01:39 PM

          But the ugly infestation is a pretty accurate descriptor though.

    • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/10/2008 11:54:10 AM

      GREAT POST,

  • Posted By: The "O" Team @ 06/10/2008 3:40:12 PM

    Come on CHLOE123... YOU GUYS GOT "SAME SEX MARRIAGES" (in some States)... Be happy:)

    But please don't bother us with your juvenile "Name Calling" antics... You should focus more on your lover and leave the politics to the "Educated"... JUST ENJOY THE RIDE MA'AM or Sir (whichever you prefer)...

    OBAMA '08

  • Posted By: The "O" Team @ 06/10/2008 1:34:17 PM

    SO WHAT IS IT CALLED WHEN TWO WHITE GUYS, "CLAPS EACH OTHERS RIGHT-HAND AND FIRMLY PRESS THEIR THUMBS AGAINST THE FIRST KNUCKLE"...

    And if you can answer that question you might realize what has been one of the MOST UNDER-RATED PROBLEMS, WITHIN AMERICAN BUSINESS AND ESSPECIALLY AMERICAN POLITICS...

    -I WORK LIKE A SLAVE TO BECOME A MASTER... Big Daddy KANE, 'LONG LIVE THE KANE'... MAN... HIP HOP IS SO PROFOUND:)

    Any whoo...

    MAD PROPS, AND DOUBLE DAP TO OBAMA AND ALL THE OBAMA SUPPORTERS!!!

    OH-BAH-MAH (wow, thats almost a tetragrammaton) IN OH-EIGHT...

    thumbs down and a tubal-cane in your mouth of those guys in the funny FEZ-CAPs:)

    So Mote It' TAINT... ( )( ) <<

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/09/2008 6:13:48 PM

    I, for one, am a Hillary supporter who would rather see her resume her role in the Senate and get involved with the committee that will get established to implement a national health care system. Or maybe run for Governor of NY or fill a spot in Obama's cabinet if he is elected. Given all this talk about Hillary and the VP role, I found this cute snippet that illustrates another reason we wouldnt want her on the ticket w/Obama:

    ENJOY: http://weblogs.newsday.com/news/opinion/walthandelsman/blog/2008/06/animation_the_hillarybarack_me.html

    • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/09/2008 7:35:44 PM

      Or maybe, Secretary of State....... I would NOT want her on the Obama ticket as VP. But, her resume, more than qualifies her for this position.

    • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 06/09/2008 6:29:22 PM

      I think Hillary would be good in any of those roles. I wish her no ill will.

      • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/09/2008 10:18:41 PM

        HOW ABOUT A ROLE OF MAD WIFE AT ADULTEROUS HUSBAND ?

        • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/09/2008 11:42:19 PM

          Now, now T and O. LOL. Thats one thing about you . . . Your are very predictable.

  • Posted By: jackbnrhrs @ 06/09/2008 7:28:05 PM

    Hillary Clinton was the best candidate. As Bob Johnson asked - Would a white man with the same credentials have had the same success that Barack Obama did? Obama may have rock star qualities, but we'll see what he can do after the concert ends and everyone steps down from their high.

    • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/10/2008 12:06:06 PM

      Just curious are you black, I ask because you mention Bob Johnson and I do not know of any blacks that have anything positive to say about Bob Johnson. The majority of us lost all respect for the man years ago. So you really might want to choose someone else to use an an example to argue your case.

    • Posted By: Nins @ 06/09/2008 7:48:11 PM

      Dear Jack, I respect your opinion that Hillary was the best candidate. But I do think that if Obama had been white but still had the same campaign strategy, the same intellect and the same public speaking skills, that he still would have won. However I think that Hillary is a great candidate too, and will be stoled if she becomes VP.

      • Posted By: kshortSD @ 06/09/2008 7:58:31 PM

        I agree. I was also going to write that Obama's demeanor, charisma, speaking skills, and ability to debate well would have assured him the same success no matter his race or gender. I suppose it doesn't hurt that he's young and has a great smile, but it's ridiculous to suggest that his race actually helped him. In fact, if he were white, he probably would have closed the deal a long time ago.

        • Posted By: sharenews @ 06/09/2008 11:40:04 PM

          That white dude if anything would have fought to the end to win also given who he would be running against, HILLARY CLINTON!

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 06/09/2008 8:07:49 PM

    Exactly, Nins. Bush is the president who drug us into his church. Faith based everything. All the doctrine that he could make come true, based in his religion. It is a shame that a country as large as ours with all of the diversity we have, all the way from race to religion to unconventional marriage to no marriage at all, has to put up with a president who tries to impose standards of a fundamental religion. He was never qualified for the job.

    • Posted By: tatmanco @ 06/09/2008 8:36:48 PM

      Body: The Bible has warned us that 'A man will come from the East that will be charismatic in nature and have proposed solutions for all our problems and his rhetoric will attract many supporters!'

      When will our pathetic Nation quit turning their back on God and understand that this man is 'A Muslim'....First, Last and always....and we are AT WAR with the Muslim Nation, whether our bleeding-heart, secular, Liberal friends believe it or not. This man fits every description from the Bible of the 'Anti-Christ'!
      I'm just glad to know that there are others that are frightened by this man!

      Who is Barack Obama?
      Very interesting and something that should be considered in your choice.
      If you do not ever forward anything else, please forward this to all your contacts...this is very scary to think of what lies ahead of us here in our own United States ...better heed this and pray about it and share it. snopes.com .. confirms this is factual. Check for yourself.
      Who is Barack Obama?
      Probable U.S. presidential candidate, Barack Hussein Obama was born in Honolulu , Hawaii , to Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a black MUSLIM from Nyangoma-Kogel , Kenya and Ann Dunham, a white ATHEIST from Wichita , Kansas .
      Obama's parents met at the University of Hawaii .
      When Obama was two years old, his parents divorced. His father returned to Kenya . His mother then married Lolo Soetoro, a RADICAL Muslim from Indonesia .
      When Obama was 6 years old, the family relocated to Indonesia . Obama attended a MUSLIM school in Jakarta . He also spent two years in a Catholic school.
      Obama takes great care to conceal the fact that he is a Muslim. He is quick to point out that, 'He was once a Muslim, but that he also attended Catholic school.'
      Obama's political handlers are attempting to make it appear that he is not a radical.

      Obama's introduction to Islam came via his father, and that this influence was temporary at best. In reality, the senior Obama returned to Kenya soon after the divorce, and never again had any direct influence over his son's education.
      Lolo Soetoro, the second husband of Obama's mother, Ann Dunham, introduced his stepson to Islam. Obama was enrolled in a Wahabi school in Jakarta . Wahabism is the RADICAL teaching that is followed by the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad against the western world. Since it is politically expedient to be a CHRISTIAN when seeking major public office in the United States , Barack Hussein Obama has joined the United Church of Christ in an attempt to downplay his Muslim background. ALSO, keep in mind that when he was sworn into office he DID NOT use the HOLY BIBLE, but instead the Koran.

      Barack Hussein Obama will NOT recite the Pledge of Allegiance nor will he show any reverence for our flag. While others place their hands over their hearts, Obama turns his back to the flag and slouches. Do you want someone like this as your
      PRESIDENT?
      Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential candidacy.
      T

      • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/10/2008 12:00:21 PM

        You are a funny little sick person aren't you. What's wrong are we feeling a little more unloved today than usual? You are a pathetic individual.

      • Posted By: tired and old @ 06/09/2008 10:08:06 PM

        IT IS ME !

        I JUST TOOK THE HIT FOR MY MAN -- OBAMA.

  • Posted By: Debunker13 @ 06/09/2008 9:06:52 PM

    Just want to expose tatmanco as a religeous fanatic who is just passing on the urban legend, that Obama is a muslim, as fact. If anyone actually takes the trouble to check his data on snopes, as suggested, they will find that the information is all false.

    • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 06/10/2008 11:56:47 AM

      Those that believe Sen. Obama to be a muslim terrorist, choose to be ignorant and no amount of logic will change this fact. They are happy in their racist little world and will do everything in their power to remain there. Dismiss them as they are not worth the effort it takes to type about them.

  • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 06/09/2008 11:20:15 AM

    How destructive to the U.S. economy would a Barack Obama presidency be?

    An exclusive Newsmax analysis warns: There could be a very rough time ahead.

    Beneath Obama's flowery rhetoric lies a dangerous economic plan that will wreak havoc on the American economy.

    Obama plans to return to the failed policies of high taxation coupled with an expansion of government spending.

    Worse, Obama says he is absolutely committed to almost doubling the capital gains rate ??? something he will easily accomplish with a Democrat Congress.

    In the coming months ??? when investors realize that Obama will raise the cap gains rate ??? there could be a stampede of asset sales as investors rush to take their profits now to avoid Obama's doubling of the tax rates next year.

    All of these issues and more are explored in Newsmax magazine's special report "Obamanomics ??? the Coming Tax-and-Spend Nightmare," by Wall Street Journal columnist John Fund.

    This Newsmax magazine special report gives Americans the first in-depth look at the Democratic presidential candidate's likely strategies ??? and how they will affect not just the larger economy, but your personal wealth as well.

    Indeed, Obama makes no bones about his plans to go on a tax rampage. Not only would he increase the capital-gains tax rate from 15 percent to as much as 28 percent, he wants to allow the 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts to expire in 2010, which effectively raises taxes on Americans by tens of billions of dollars.

    He also wants to do away with the $102,000 FICA payroll tax cap, which means anyone making over $102,000 would pay an additional 7 percent in taxes on earned income.

    And the loan dividend tax rate George Bush implemented? Under President Obama it will be DOA!

    • Posted By: Heartlight3 @ 06/09/2008 5:24:25 PM

      The one thing you fail to mention is the small percentage of Americans these policies will affect. The percentage of Americans who make over the Social Security wage limit is much smaller than the percentage who don't. The percentage of Americans who have enough money to be affected by a capital gains increase is much smaller than the percentage of those who don't. If I were one of those in that small percentage of Americans who are affected by these tax increases, I would be happy to pay a small percentage more in taxes in order to support the operation of the country. The way the tax code is now, people who make the least money are paying a higher percentage of their income to run the country, all the while struggling to buy gas and food. The people who make the most money, while using the amenities that tax dollars provide, are paying a smaller percentage of their income to pay for those amenities. 20% of $30,000 is $6,000. 20% of $150,000 is $30,000. Would you rather try to run the country with 20% of the low wage earner's income or 20% of the high wage earner's income? It doesn't make sense to put the burden of paying to run the country on those who make the least money. What are they thinking?

      • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 06/10/2008 11:01:28 AM

        yep i guess someone should pay for you to have a better life after all you deserve it right ? how about this work a little harder and stop having kids you can't afford to raise..... and live in a house you can pay for or just vote democrate and get the handout geeze give me a break try a little harder !!!!

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