The sooner Hillary gets out of the public eye the better. We have had enough of the Clintons. They now have enough money to live royally and to leave us all along.
The sooner Hillary gets out of the public eye the better. We have had enough of the Clintons. They now have enough money to live royally and to leave us all along.
Back to square one; Senator Obama can win the election comfortable only if he elects Senator Clinton as vice president, if I was in Obama's shoes I would surely select her as vice president.
Wrong. Obama will select a VP candidate from a crucial swing state, thereby ensuring his victory in the fall.
You are correct. That is an obvious move for him to make, but will he? Cant wait to hear who the VPs on these tickets will be but thats a ways away. It would help me at least knowing who the VPs are to factor in to the mix of weighing who I would vote for.
I am a psychologist and agree with Toobin as he noted "the deranged narcissism of the Clintons." I was never crazy about Bill, but considered support for Hillary, at first, until I began to recognize the classic narcissistic traits.
Running was all about her, from the controlled tears to that brave landing under
"sniper fire." Bill could not bring himself to share his place on the ego stroking stage as he attempted to campaigned for her. The attention was too intoxicating to end at the last call -the Clintons wanted, and will likely always want, one more round.
They're a matched set of bookends. God bless them.
Doctor of Psychology: For God's sake get over yourself.
And which school of medicine espouses that you can effectively diagnose a personality disorder by watching said individual's sound bytes?
Your bona fides stretch credultiy and by the way wasn't english grammar necessary for your GED?
We had 8 years of Clinton administration to watch, not just sound bytes. But then you probably weren't born yet pinkunicorn. BTW pinkunicorn-did you get your high school degree in a Cracker Jack Box?
I agree, but the people below can't recognize that the Clinton's tangled web of lies and deceit because they are too caught up in it.
Those Hillary supporters who will now vote Republican...So what you're saying is that since you will now vote for McCain you in fact members of a cult of personality called Hillary. It must be true because, with healthcare as the exception, and a small exception at that, their policies (Clinton's and Obama's) differ only slightly. Because your cult of Hillary personality will refuse to vote DEMOCRATIC, choosing to essentially put the Republican beelzebub into ofrice, you will complete the Bush trifecta and further the headlong plunge into the Idiocy Abyss that that W has done so well digging.. Amazing that you can't see that Hillary's policies are Obama's policies. Oh wait. You are the same person that would vote Britney Spears into office because you like her music, and you think her kids are cute, and she's a woman, and Kevin did her wrong, so she must be a good presidential candidate, right! Britney/Hillary for president '08! Simply amazing the idiocy!
What is wrong with you? Angry much? Hillary ran a powerful campaign. She is a well experienced woman. Obama has little political experience and Mccain will exploit that. Can you not understand how exciting it was for women to have a woman canidate like Hillary? For some of us women, we our saddened by Hillary's defeat. We were highly invested! i myself who has always voted democrat, may not vote for Obama. I don't trust him. I trusted Hillary. I may not agree with McCain, but I find him to be trustworthy. So go ahead and insult me, Insult Brittney Spears too. And while you are at it, why don't you get over yourself! I have.
Here is my stance at this point to share with you and others.
I cannot at this point vote for Obama until he has been totally vetted. If any newbie thinks that mentioning a few things that are shady in a candidates past without totally being on the Medias enemies list for totally vetting as a Presidential candidate, then they dont know what real vetting is. My guess is that people thinking as voters are thinking that Obama is already voted. No way. Thus they will be surprised what happens for vetting of Obama that will happen in the fall up against McCain. My finally worry is bassed on alot of newbies who are focused on racism is that they will think that is what will not get Obama in the white house which at this point we already know that has proven will not be the case.
WELL MY MIND IS IN A TIZZY.
WHAT THE F**K IS YOUR POINT ?
Obama has not been fully vetted to make a lot of Hillary supporters feel comfortable about him filling the role of President, especially given he has no meaty resume of proven accomplishments and experience compared to other Presidential candidates.
CAROL !
SO HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN A REPUGNANT REPUBLICAN ?
AGREE WITH YOU UP TO THE POINT OF HILLARY O ANY TICKET.
Dreffein, Have you seen this? http://blog.pumapac.org/
Sharenews - just did and it looks like it could be a good concept. Thanks for the link. I signed up:-)
I am so sick of hearing that Hillary was unfairly trashed because she's a woman! The fact is SHE was the person that repeatedly slammed Obama because he's black in the national media over and over and over and over! Women can be so bitter and myopic when they don't get their way. Seriously...these morons are going to put McBush in the White House out of spite? That's just plain mentally ill. Period. How petty and childish can you get?
John loves peace - a very inspirational post. All of us HRC supporters feel so comfortable joining the Obama camp when we're spoken about in this way. I've really tried to stay out of most of this back and forth - just don't think it's constructive. But for every Obama supporter insult I've read, it's pushing me further and further away. You should come to terms with the FACT that you need some of us to support Obama in order for him to win. According to CNN, 17% of HRC supporters are planning to vote for McCain and 22% will not vote for either. This will change as we get further down the road. But your comments will only move it in a direction the Democrats can't afford.
Every time you post "you need us" that's pushing yourself away. If that's how you want to get votes - stay away you're worthless. Blackmail for respect is not the answer.
Oh Alvy - the great communicator and wiseman (person) - I'm just stating facts. If Obama supporters keep up their tirades on HRC and her supporters it will backfire. This isn't blackmail - it's just reality. You all won so why the need for the continuous nasty anti-Hillary posts? Why aren't you turning your wrath against McCain? Is it maybe because now that Obama is the nominee, you're a little frightened that maybe your big man can't get the job done so you'd rather blame Hillary? Grow up.
Maybe because little cry-babies like you stupid - won't give it up. The constant drone of "you need us, you need us, you need us, you need us, you need us," is just mind-numbing and serves no purpose. Some bloggers care that you're hurt - most don't care, this is not a crying post.
Go cry elsewhere B.
But thanks for recognizing your idiocy.
Hillary is gone and we don't care. But her pant suits were fabulous were they not?
Pia and Nins -thank you for your support. I guess all of you other Obama supporters need to decide who the real enemy is - Hillary or McCain. So long as you think it's Hillary, you keep the party divided and you guarantee the defeat of Obama. I have NO desire for any of you to kiss up to me or HRC supporters - I'm just asking you to move on beyond Hillary as I'm sure Barack would want you to do.
I have posted nothing negative about Obama for some time - and have tried to focus the HRC supporters to the real culprits - the MSM. I know there were mistakes in Hillary's campaign but I also believe that the media has some responsbility. Every negative HRC comment just cements another vote that will be made out of anger and then we all lose.
KISS OR BITE ?
Tired and Old - You're a pig.
I AM A MAN PIG ! OINK ! OINK !
THATS MY EXCUSE AND I AM STANDING BY IT !
PERHAPS ! WE HATE THE HATE THAT THE WICKED WITCH USED TOWARDS OBAMA ?
Look, you are over doing it with the anti Hillarys. Give it up, please.
I agree with Pia, Alvy.
so its okay for the H.C. supporters to be rude, & we Obama supporters are supose to be worthy of your support & insults on the blog so that you guys will vote for him? YEAH Right !!
One would think that crying about an insult on a blog is worthless, but to constantly do what you accuse others of doing is typical Hills, plant posters. And Deaf'n is a plant. You know because all little B will do is support the loser by endlessly writing how unfair she was treated - when she was not.
Every bad word about her stemmed from something she did - alone.
yeah !! all the threats are becomming boring...........
But don't you think the claims of sexism, media bias, and DNC favoritism is disrepectful to Obama and his supporters? Obama ran a strong campaign. His team spent a lot of time really analyzing exactly what needed to be done on a state by state basis to win the nomination. He had a grass roots effort that was second to none. Hillary's strategy was based on winning the nomination by the end of Super Tuesday. That's not a criticism, based on everything I was hearing at the time, I probably would have taken the same approach. But at the end of the day she came up a little short. Why isn't there any respect to Obama and the way he managed his campaign? Why does everyone have to cry fowl? The disrespect is flowing in both directions - and at the end of the day the only people who are going to benefit from it are going to be the republicans. Why can't people see that?
And now because Michelle Obama and Barack Obama did a fist bump, now they are terrorist. That is really sad. So many people do it and yet when it comes to Obama, he is a terrorist. Like I said, Mein Kampf. You guys are making Hitler smile in his grave.
For those not knowing what a fist bump is: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1812102,00.html?imw=Y
http://www.alternet.org/election08/87230/
June 18th, 2007
The Fist-Bump Is Dead
by The Centaur
http://internetzillionaire.com/2007/06/the-fist-bump-is-dead/
I saw something about that, and I really did Laugh Out Loud! Doesn't anyone at Fox have teenagers? Doesn't anyone on staff watch Bud Lite commercials? Or basketball? How about "Let's Make a Deal"? Howie Mandal always fist bumps because he's got a germ phobia over shaking hands. This is the most off-the-wall, out-of-touch comment I've heard, so far, in this campaign season. BUT. . . I suspect there are more to come.
WHATS WITH FOOTBALL ?
YOU PAT ANOTHER GUY ON THE BUTT ?
Mrs. Clinton will suffer some remorse and move on. After all she has been married to Mr. Clinton for a long time and has been disappointed more then slightly on a frequent basis. Mrs. Clinton will recover quickly because there are so many excuses for what went wrong to rely upon. She can spread the blame in every direction with some justification. Certainly she can see that her husband and his minions served her poorly from the beginning. She never escaped the Clinton myth enough to establish her own identity. Next time she will know that Bill belongs in the backround. She evolved this time by losing, and has learned that her instincts are the better half of the political marriage. Mrs. Clinton will return as herself not as co-pilot with Bill. The good news is that she now realizes she has to split, at least politically, with him to succeed. The real importance of this primary is that Bill has left the building. Now Mrs. Clinton can finally stand alone. Her future success as a politician depends upon it.
THOUGHT CO-DEPENDENTS WERE DEPENDENT ON EACH OTHER; TILL DEATH THEY DO PART.
Yes that is true unless they get therapy. Remember the aids suggested it but they refused it. Now they just keep Bill on a short leash as much as possible and that is why they keep him away from the press.
Their plan didn't work so well and that is why we now know that Bill called the author of the Vanity Fair article a scumbag etc. It's easier to throw dirt on someone who wrote about the truth than to admit you screwed up (litterally). Denial is part of addiction and co-dependency.
I DENY I EAT PRETZELS !
I DENY THEY GIVE ME ACID AND SORE MOUTH !
I DENY I DRINK THE DIET DEW !
AW - CRAP !
I HAVE AN ADDICTION TO PRETZELS AND DIET MOUNTAIN DEW.
OK ! I ADMIT IT.
Ding dong the witch is out the wicked witch is out!
Really, what is your point. The race is over and Hillary lost. You may not think Obama needs her supporters, but, he does. The sooner all of the Hillary bashers give it a rest, the sooner Hillary supporters will get on board with Obama. I've heard of sore losers buth what is with the sore winners!?
WE ARE JUST PLAYING WICKED WITCH HILLARY GAME !
NEGATIVES STICK.
i thought the saying was the " wicked wicth was dead"...... but she is not ( steal stealing media attention)...
i am a clinton supporter and i WILL NOT support Obama. he has no clue in how to run this country. guess the U.S. is full of IDIOTS to support this unfit candidate.
Actually, your the idiot. To set aside everything your candidate believes in just because your angry she didn't win - very stupid.
Zig - we are entitled to our own opions ---- and he is right!
do you honestly think the Republicans will lethim win?
and, Nobama 2008 is the Democratic Version of Bush 2000!
I was actually agreeing with him - there are a lot of idiots in this world, just not the people he thinks. As far as the republican's "letting him win". The republicans aren't going to "let" anyone do anything. It is going to be united democrats that put Obama in office.
The comment that Obama is the democrat equivilent of Bush - well, that's just stupid.
there are some similarities. both are extremely adverse to input from people outside their way of thinking. Obama really isn't very good at thinking on his feet. Hillary whooped him in debates he seemed lost as soon as the script was gone. We could have an intellectual midget running the country. If he wasn't smart enough to drop Wright before he got into the campaign he may not have the Grabe tas to run this country.
Wait until you see McCain in a debate. The best you republicans can hope for is that he doesn't drool on himself.
It's typical of the media to downplay and scoff at the idea that the media is biased. It's called DENIAL! It's a shame that the "professionals" who are supposed to provide us with unbiased information are so intellectually dishonest that they refuse to admit that there is a problem here. WHY was this article written? The media repeatedly harps on the supposed "narcissism" of the Clintons...and yet, we get article after article after article about them. So-called "journalists" who try to be half-ass psychoanalysts interpreting for us what the Clintons, particularly Hillary, are really all about. If it had been Obama who had been on the losing end of this, does anybody believe that the Newsweek would write an article about HIS depression? Is there a double-standard (actually several) going on here? Yes.
If the media was half as professional as Hillary Clinton, we would all be better off. Congratulation Newsweek! You've now put yourself on the same level as Cosmo and Soap Digest! lol
Media bias is an old stable of politics. Whoever is losing claims the media is biased. Do particular media companies lean one way or the other, sure, but it all balances out. When you claim media bias, what you are really saying is that voters are stupid and can't think for themselves. I don't agree with that.
If you don't think voters are stupid you need to read more bloggs! And these are the literate ones imagine how stupid the ones are that are playing grand theft auto right now. No offense Gamers! Just being silly! John Mccain is a cal m specialist in counterstrike! Barak is a noob!
Actually, John McCain is a specialist in taking out of both sides of his mouth - that, and missing Senate votes.
Good call, and thank you, Zig.
Hillary, Hillary. You gotta be kidding me. On the night of Obama's victory (Last Tuesday), she doesn't know enough to concede??? And her Part supporters the next day telling her to take her time until she's ready??? I heard the day of her second speech (Her so-called real concession speech) that her supporters were saying it was Hillary's Day. How about the victor, Obama???? She defacto denied him "His Day". What in the world is going on here? One of two things....either she's pretty stupid (which I doubt) and can't get it right the first time. OR, she a vengeful, sour grapes, In-Your-Face Sore Loser. And....what's up with the washington croud trying to rationalize her strange unwarrented behavior???? Could they be that afraid of her...still??? And if they are, why????? have they all been suckling visa-vi her at the public donation trough???? It's all more than unseemly...Yiou have to hold your nose through it all.
yep, it's all about money and "I'll support your campaign if you'll support mine" and the Clintons and all their cronies just all keep in-breedding with each other. Which is why Obama doesn't need any Clintons.
So the Democratic family tree can finally grow some new branches! Do some pruning and get rid of the Clintons and their cronies.
another McCain plant.
The truth of the matter, whether you can admit it or not, this country is being destroyed by bigotry. Those of you who voted for Bush, twice, should sit this one out, it is going to take at least a few years for you too come back to reality. If Obama was white, you would be delighted to have new leadership during this critical era. If you blow this opportunity to shift directions, you can kiss your grandchildrens futures goodbye. The amount of racially based rancor being tossed about at the moment is disgusting for the country that claims to be the leader of the free world. Republicans have turned this society into a selfish, greedy, hipocritical mess, where the rich are getting richer, and the poor are getting poorer. No one one says a word until they are left off the boat. Wise up, and do the right thing for once!!
Republicans are the Future. We aren't bigoted racist or mean. We are responsible caring and realistic. Our goals are a safer better world for Americans and everyone else! We believe in the individual or the group its not selfishness its self reliance we dont think what can Government do for us We think What can we do for ourselves. We will help each other and we will help you. We are not in a war of aggression for oil as the left likes to repeat over and over again we are in a war to prevent Islamic extremists from taking over a country full of decent and good islamic people that have been removed from one horrible situation and will be left in another if we abandom them. You can blame Bush for causing the problem if you like but its a problem and its real so its up to us if we choose to run or if we own up to our responsibilties and fulfill our promises, Mccain may not be perfect but atleast we know where he stands.and we know he isn't afraid to stand up to The republican hierarchy or the Democrats when he thinks they are wrong.
I love the way McCain is standing up to the religious right ... oh wait, he isn't, my bad.
I think the religious right is pretty irrelavant but im sure he will stand up against them also if they irritate him!
That old PHART (yes, in all CAPS) can barely stand up... $5 Bucks, says that he doesn't know where he is, at this very moment... That OLD womanizing, Adulterous Fornicating Whoremonger... MC'CAINT NEEDS TO STAY OUT OF THOSE STRIP CLUBS BEFORE HIS TICKER GOES BAD...
OBAMA '08
he only goes to the strip clubs to talk to the religious right
O.K. - that made me laugh.
If you are one of those people who says that Hillary wasnt dogged negatively in the MainStreamMedia non-stop, you should watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM
Please. She kind of asked for some ridicule with her ridiculous behavior. If she would have conducted this campaign with any class or dignity, no one would have poked fun at her.
The same could be said of Bill during his presidency.
Yeah. It was just her gettin' it right? She didn't get the most - she started the most. Look at what this and most articles portray. She hurts people on purpose - hence no VP. She blew it.
I really dont want her to be VP cuz with all that tenacity she would better serve this country resuming her Senate seat and maybe working with the committee established to create a Health Care Plan for this country. Or to serve as Governor of New York in time.
I dont think she should be VP either, rather maybe a cabnet seat in the administration....... But not VP...
She should buy a houseboat and relax. I hear they have new canvas pant suits for leisure.
I hate to admit it, but you made me chuckle with that one. See, I have a sense of humor. : )
But not lay-away :-) she dont do lay-away too elitsit......
Praise God! She is out of the race!
Praise God. Now all these cases of Clintonian Syndrome will be cured or turned into a new disease which I'll pre-name to be McCainian Syndrome. Time for the transition for Obama Supporters . . . No?
Comment: Comment: I have a suggestion for all the Clinton supporters who say they are going to vote for McCain. Go to the following website address for the Wall Street Journal:
http://online.wsj.com/public/page/election2008.html?mod=2_1309
At the top of the page, you'll see cartoon charcters of McCain and Obama along with a link that says "See An Interactive Graphic." If you click on that link you'll see a very easy to read summary on the differences between McCain and Obama on various topics. Remember, with the excpetion of health care, Clinton's polilcies are very similar to Obama's. Even on health care, Obama's policy is closer to Clinton's than McCain's.
Try to take a moment and put aside any emotional response and read the differences for each topic. When you're finished, ask yourself objectively and without emotion who's policies you agree with more. If the answer is Obama, then try to at least keep an open mind as the campaign plays out. With emotions still high, no one expects you to endorse Obama at this point - just try to keep an open mind and focus on the policies rather than the personalities, because that is really what is most important.
Just a suggestion.
Thanks ZZ. I will definitely visit this place you recommended.
That's all I ask. Maybe if one Obama supporter (me) and one Clinton supporter (you) can be civil to one another, maybe two will become four, and four will become eight, and before we know it, we'll be back to discussing the issues instead of beating each other up.
ZIGGY AN OBAMA SUPPORTER ?
THAT MAKES SENSE.
Actually I am a Democrat supporter. My preference was always Obama, but If Hillary had won, I would have been on this blog telling all of the angry and bitter Obama supporters that it's over, let's focus on the big picture - defeating McCain. I know you're going to slam me for that, but that's the way I feel. The policies and platforms of each party are more important to me than the candidate. And four more years of a republican at the helm is so horrifying to me that I would have voted for any Democrat the party nominated.
I DON'T SLAM FRIENDS ;UNLESS, THEY ARE WRONG.
Yeah, true. We still have a ways to go until November 5th. So maybe magic will happen all because of us and those that we touch, and so on and so on. Now wouldnt that be something. LOL.
We can only hope.
As an Air Force verteran of 20 years I respectfully ask the Clinton supporters not to vote for McCain out of spite. I'd prefer not to get sent back to Iraq because you didn't get your first choice.
YOU MAY BE A LITTLE SELFISH; HOWEVER, THE HILLARY SUPPORTERS ARE MUCH MORE SO.
HILLARY RULES REQUIRE YELLING FOUL ! PLAY MY GAME ! SPOILED BRATS HAVE MORE FUN; UNTIL, THEY LOSE.
I thought you were a McCain supporter, but based on your screen name, you are McCain!!!
YOU HAVE AN EXCELLENT POINT !
BUT, I REMEMBER THINGS, LOTS OF THINGS, LOTS AND LOTS OF THINGS.
JOHN MC CAIN; HOWEVER, REMEMBERS VERY LITTLE, LIKE HIS VOTING RECORD IN CONGRESS.
Believe it or not, the first time Obama and Clinton met face - to - face they shook hands, and he snatched the Democratic ticket from her palm, is it possible Obama could be a magician.
IS IT POSSIBLE YOU ARE A REPUGNANT REPUBLICAN CAUSING TROUBLE ?
You know what they say, the truth always cause offence.
OFFENCE ?
HOW ABOUT OFFENSE !
NOW IT FEELS BETTER WHEN YOU THINK ?
TRY USING A DICTIONARY, FOR TOUGH WORDS.
Sometimes when I mis-spell a word its for a reason, like the word "fence" as fenced in,
I THINK YOU FELL OFF YOUR FENCE.
You are so right! Obama supporters, the media and others need to stop the Hillary bashing if they do not want to foster continuing resentment against Obama. I too was a Hillary supporter who said I would never vote for Obama but because I have such enormous respect for Hillary I WILL vote for Obama. I surely can't hand the country over to another Republican.
and for those of you not willing to support Obama...take a serious look at McCain. You won't be sorry.
LOOK ; BUT , DON'T TOUCH !
YOU MIGHT WAKE HIM !
Yes you will.
In a big way!
Bravo!
Thank you, Texanna.
Enough of this HILLARARY'OUS BASHING... HER, JOKE OF A CAMPAIGN, FAILED AND SO THERE IS NO PURPOSE OF EVEN WASTING KEY STROKES ON HER... BEST TO HER IN HER FUTURE ENDEAVORS, OUTSIDE OF THE POLITICAL ARENA... MAYBE SHE WILL WRITE SOME GREAT BOOKS ON HOW SHE WAS A "VICTIM OF SEXUAL DISCRIMINATION" OR GIVE US A MORE VIVID LOOK INTO HER, ALMOST NERVOUS BREAK-DOWN (I do hope that her family gets her the psychiatric help that she so desperately needs and deserves) OR EVEN HOW SHE MADE IT THROUGH THE LIONS, TIGERS & SNIPERS...
"O" my, OBAMA, OH-EIGHT and BEYOND!!!
You just wasted a whole lot more keystrokes and venom on Hillary bashing than most. You are obviously a McCain plant
I SCORED IT AN " A+ ", REALLY ENJOYED IT.
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