Out and Down

I have just had it with the media "obituary" everywhere you look. It's disgraceful and mean-spirited. I think this is blatant manipulation to keep the party divided and angry. We are fighting each other while McScary is sneaking into the White House. We better wake the hell up! The primary is over and let's not lose focus on what's really at stake: Our Country, Our America. Hillary may not be my candidate but she sure the hell won't want McCain in office. Those have supported her should continue to support her call the get behind Senator Obama. She will continue to shape the policies of the Democratic Party for many years to come and that you can be sure of. Let's stop eulogizing her like her campaign policies are in the garbage, because she's not going to lay down and die nor through work and supporters in some abyss to never be seen again. Give Senator Obama a chance to bring the party together and put her policies in place for the general election. He has stated repeatedly that she will play a key role and thinks very highly of her intelligence. He's no fool , in spite of, how he may be portrayed. Destortion of both candidates have been over the top. Clear your heads Dem and let's get the White House and yes, Clinton is coming too. So look out Republicans, because we see through you.

DNC DID NOT GIVE THIS NOMINATION TO OBAMA; HE EARNED IT.

We talk about respect and then you go and say "gave" what about those who voted for Obama and the scores of delegates he "earned?"

Here we go again only this time if you vote for McCain (now that Hillary is out of the picture to do so) you are a racist. Then if Obama doesnt win it will be due to racism. Ugh. Are there some racists that wont vote for him? Sure, but I cant imagine them being the overwhelming bunch not voting for him. You know there are other reasons people dont feel comfortable voting for him: Inexperience/lack of substance, no proven meaty record of accomplishments that he led to fruition (e.g. latched onto group bills, cosponsor bills, very little if any where he was the sole sponsor); Not to mention he has never been truly vetted to the degree of every candidate who runs for president normally does cuz his supporters (George Soros, Murdock,etc.) have doen their best to squelch as much talk as they can about his background,with the exception of obvious controversies that still have not been fleshed out by the media. When in the former church for 20 yrs, he listened to black liberation theology speeches, many filled with anti-americian, anti-white rantings by pastors, but what more disturbs me is that the church members were dancing, clapping smiling, etc. as these hateful sermons too place. What did obama do. Sit in pew with hands folded while the rest of the members jumped and yelled around him? Think not. So dont think that just because everyone doesnt just go out and vote for Obama is a racist cuz there are many people who just have not warmed up to that idea. Or maybe will not at all in the end. After all, it is every americans right to vote for the candidate they feel they will be most comfortable with sitting in that Oval office, for whatever their reasoning is. Its called democracy.

warfare0911, I'm ROFLMAO! You really think that McCain will NOT institute the draft when he runs out of volunteer servicemen to CONTINUE fighting wars in Iraq Afghanistan, and start in Iran? No one would have protested had we ONLY gone into Afghanistan in the first place, seeking bin Laden. Obama wants to END the wars, as CAREFULLY, as they were entered CARELESSLY. Also if you think McCain is the feminist candidate, you really don't know much about him, do you? read up on how he treated his ex-wife whom he replaced with his current, rich barbie Dol trophy, young enough t be his daughter. research his views on equal pay for equal work and what he plans for Supreme Court nominees, re. Roe v. Wade. Further, 16% of white voters for Hillary in exit polls admitted that "race played a factor in their vote." That translates to 'I would never vote for a non-white person.' If those votes are defected to MCain, he carries some of the OPENLY "racist" vote! This doesn't even include those who feel the same but WON'T ADMIT IT. It is absolutely unbelievable that the charges of racist support would go to the AA candidate. LOL Those who support Obama's message of unification (his very PERSON EMBODIES, being bi-racial) DO NOT support the views of Wright, which is what you are poorly trying to imply. Get onboard or get left behind. the country is fed up; change IS coming. Those of you (confused women acting childishly in revenge against their own feminist best interests, perpetuators of smear, hate, racism, and "experience" addicts who refuse to take note of vision, previous successes with limited experience and past failures from some of the "experienced") who try to thwart Obama's attempts to get this country back on track domestically, with regards to foreign relations and our collective image to the world, and promote ecology, etc. will GUARANTEE that "change" in the next four years when you ENSURE that McCain CANNOT serve more than one term. Reagan/Bush Sr./Quayle got twelve before the tide HAD to turn to Clinton/Gore. Bush/Cheney/McCain won't be afforded any more of the same, especially with our safety at risk (in which case would we be more likely to be attacked again? at peace, or constantly picking fights in a tumultuous region, stirring up strife and instability among those who HATE us??)... YOU do the math!

That's sad that we have so many "Cult of the HILLBILLY" followers... I can tell by your uninformed comments that you are one of these ignorant, uneducated HICKS who, all of a sudden, gets interested in politics (a typical, once every four year nut job)... '

Let's be honest... Instead of acting like you know what your talking about (it's obvious that you are rationalizing your racism), why don't you say that, you won't vote for THE BIG O, because he is BLACK... Honestly, you would be more respectable if you just said that, instead of pretending like you even have a clue, as to what goes on in politics...

ANY ONE WHO HAS DONE THEIR HOMEWORK, KNOWS THAT, JOHN MC'CAINT WAS ALLOW RELEASE BY HIS CAPTORS BECAUSE HE HAD GAVE IN TO THE HAZING AND GIVEN OUT VITAL INFORMATION, REGARDING HIS FATHERS COMMAND AND THE ACTIVITIES THEREOF... MC'CAINT IS A COWARD AND A TRAITOR (they would have toss hisazz in prison but he was an admiral's son)... The sad thing is the fact that, those Vietnamese hazed him so badly that, THEY MAY HAVE CAUSE A PERSONALITY SPLIT... That phart doesn't know if he is coming or going... MC'CAINTS PSYCHOLOGICAL ABILITIES HAVE BEEN IN QUESTION FOR MANY YEARS, IN WASHINGTON... THEY DROVE THE OLD DUDE CRAZY... HE IS ACTUALLY ANOTHER, REAGAN'esq PUPPET, to BE CONTROLLED BY THE "EASTERN ESTABLISHMENT" (I'm sorry, I forgot who I was talking to, we both know that you have no clue as to the meaning of that last term:)

If you can jump from HILLBILLY (you probably are one) to MC'CAINT, then so be it... Your DUMAZZ and the service rendered, are surely not needed, nor considered and most certainly, given ZERO WEIGHT...

INSTEAD OF BASHING OBAMA, YOU BROKE HICKS NEED TO VOTE, YOUR WALLETS AND NOT YOUR HEADS OR HEARTS (those have most certainly stirred you and your lives, IN THE WRONG DIRECTION:)

Having been a conservative (back in my less enlightened days), I can tell you now that, it would be totally HILLARYous to see your DUMAZZ, attempt to fake your way through a serious discussion on any political issue... You are the kind of voter that, the other side, always wants to push over to, THE OTHER SIDE:)

SO LONG MEL... HAVE A GOOD TRIP... If MC'CAINT KEEPS GETTING THESE MORONIC CONSTITUENTS; BARACK IS SURE TO BE OUR COMMANDER-AND-CHIEF...

GOD BLESS your ignorance:)

Also: His spiritual mentor Wright, captured him during his community activism days, encouraged him to become a Christian (he was agnostic before, since mother was agnostic/atheist, formerly muslim father was atheist, and formerly muslim stepfather was atheist), to be more relevant/authentic in his work for the church and surrounding community. It is Wright's well known and oft heard from the pews SPIRITUAL views that Obama found inspiring (not his more bombastic, racially divisive views); and, as much as he's on the road and missing church services, Wright' s POLITICAL views were NOT heard as frequently, nor were they as controversial as they have become RECENTLY (Wright was putting out a book, competing for attention from media coverage, over that gotten by most famous parishioner, Barack Obama). He knew Obama wouldn't agree with his POLITICAL views and didn't care what it would do to his campaign just so long as he sold his book. It is logical fallacy to say that Obama sat listening to what was LOOPED in SOUND BYTES for 20+ years, as if the entire sermons were the parts that the media played, or that all, or even most, of the sermons were in any way controversial/had any controversial words in them at all. There is a church community there where much good was done for the poor and normal people worship, which would be hard to leave (Obama eventually did, due to media scrutiny) the place where he married Michelle and had his daughters baptized. It's so hypocritically unfair for us to judge. Many church goers may hear things(often politically charged) they don't agree with from their pastors, but that don't drive them away if they are infrequent and not so fundamentally opposed to what one believes as right/wrong (like saying it's okay to molest children, which one would be totally offended at, and would question whether the pastor was even a Christian or not/cult). Differing political views (questioning the government or another's patriotism) rarely interfere with one's religious views especially if infrequent because they are live and let live types of views for the most part and not core/central to Christianity (how many churches house both Republican and Democratic Christians in the same sanctuary - if politics, even strongly held, were allowed to be that divisive, Christians would have to change churches practically every election cycle!; and, Christians are Christians first, Americans second).

Not in your lifetime with Obama.

So verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry true.....

You really think Bill Clinton did more damage to this country than George W. Bush? I have to say, that's a first on this blog. I thought Bill was a great president, and Hillary a great first lady. The Monica scandal was definitely an embarrassment, but more so to Bill than anyone else. But overall, he was good for the country. But George W. Bush ... are you serious?

I raised my 2 children during the Clinton administration years. I was very sad to think how when I was a kid the POTUS was someone you looked up to as a moral figure besides a political leader of the country. Remember all stories of George and Abe. I did in depth research on my favorite president FDR in college.
Sadly, my kids had to ask me why POTUS was being impeached and why he was having affairs while married etc. My two kids both vote now and you can bet your bottom dollar that they won't vote for Obama if Hillary is on the ticket. Yes, I know FDR had affairs but they weren't splashed across the national news. Different times. However, as far as I know FDR, JFK and the others did not go on national media and lie to the American public when asked directly about their affairs. Nor did they loose their license to practice law due to perjury. So you ask , "What does this have to do with Hillary?" I would have had a lot more respect for Hillary if she had left Bill's cheating bum after the Lewinsky affair. She is no role model for women, I don't want my daughter to think that is a marriage, that it's OK in anyway to tolerate a husband who cheats on you then lies about it and does it over and over and over again. Call me old fashioned but I would like the POTUS to be a moral compass for the nation as well.
P.S.. My son-in-law is currently in the Green Zone in Iraq. Says the troops do not feel Hillary could effectively negotiate with leaders of countries who do not recognize the status of women. It's not their culture to respect the thoughts or ideas of women. The troops favor Obama is what I hear.

Saw the whole speech. was disappointed

You arent kidding about unnamed sources in this ridiculous article. I counted at least 5 instances:

1 - You have time to settle this. It's been a tough race, you must be exhausted, take your time'," says a participant of the call WHO DECLINED TO BE IDENTIFIED

2 - Barney Frank, a veteran Massachusetts congressman with a sharp tongue, told Clinton that she should announce her support of Obama "as soon as possible," says someone who was on this call and ASKED TO REMAIN ANONYMOUS

3 - Clinton betrayed no emotion on the phone call. "She's not a voice cracker," says a top adviser who DID NOT WISH TO BE IDENTIFIED talking about her

4 - Another aide, who also ASKED TO NOT BE IDENTIFIED, said: "She isn't going to crawl under the covers for the next six months. How many times have they danced on her grave?"

5 - In her last weeks on the campaign trail, "she had a lot more fun, in a weird way," recalls an adviser who DID NOT WISH TO BE NAMED

To "Moral"
What you have said is right on. Yes, Hillary Clinton has her share of baggage, but so does Obama! The Obama supporters are so blinded by his flowery speeches they tend to overlook the fact that he has his faults as much as any other candidate. His "denials" of past associations are lies in my book and his verbal stammering on live interviews really shows his inexperience, although he is a "gifted" speaker when he has a script in front of him.

You know something, your ranting about Obama is almost verbatim of a useless spam message going around the internet. I am a caucasian, college-educated woman. Good thing I didn't have to grade your "spam" on grammar and spelling. Presumptive candidate Obama is a sincere, eloquent individual whose speeches remind me of another fine orator of our generation, Ronald Reagan. I am a registered Republican, however have no intention of voting for John McCain. There is just something about him that I cannot put my finger on. He has difficulty even reading a teleprompter and this could make for four more years of speeches rivaling Bush's. I don't think I could take that. I might have voted for Hillary had it not been for how absolutely awful Chelsea and Bill had been on the campaign circuit. Her smart-azzed daughter telling potential voters "it's none of your business" when, in fact, the activites that occurred in the White House during Bill's administration are absolutely relevant as they are counted as part of the "35 years" of political experience that Hillary claims that she has. Also, her latest tax returns not being submitted for scrutiny by the voting public and Bill's refusal to disclose donors to his library and the sources of his "speech" income are also extremely relevant. America does not want, or need, a repeat of the shenanigans that went on in the White House during the Clinton years (Whitewater, Rose Law Firm, Vince Foster, Monica Lewinski, etc.). And the same people who are claiming that Obama is an unknown entity seem to forget that not too many people knew about Bill Clinton before he ran either. If they did, they probably would never have voted for him or his wife.

I think she has been treated fairly considering the way she has acted. Ever since she started her campaign, it appears that her and that awful family of hers felt a certain sense of entitlement. We need no more Clintons in the White House, thank you.

It is not wrong to support Senator Clinton, it is wrong to constantly make her a victim. She lost this campaign because of her and not the media. Is she strong or is she weak? I would think a strong women wouldn't want to constantly be victimized. Is seems strange how some women see sexism in everything. Just becuase she didn't win the nomination doesn't make everyone a sexist.

She fought a hard campaign and lost fair and square by the rules she agreed to. She deserves better than for her supporters to belittle her efforts and place blame on Obama and the media. Why not celbrate her achievements, deal with the grief of her loss and move on?