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  • Posted By: Nins @ 06/11/2008 12:29:30 PM

    Yesterday John McCain said that "there is nothing wrong with the economy." Despite McCain's attempts to turn a blind eye and act like nothing is wrong, all of the indicators and the leading economists have dire predictions.

    Does this pretending that important pressing realities aren't real remind you of someone? Maybe Dubya Bush? McSame.

    I am VERY worried about the economy. So are lots of people, including Rupert Murdoch, multi-billionaire owner of FoxNews and an arch-conservative Republican. Mr. Murdoch is supporting Obama and has predicted that Obama will win the general election, because he says that McCain is "weak on the economy" and that with McCain as President "the recession would deepen into a depression."

    Warren Buffet, CEO of Berkshire Hathaway and the richest man in the world is also supporting Obama, because he also believes Obama has what it takes to turn around our failing economy.

    Honestly, I think that both of these men know more about the economy and more about Obama's and McCain's capabilities than most of us do.

    Obama will win, and he will change our nation for the better.

    • Posted By: MikePalos @ 06/24/2008 5:20:29 PM

      There is nothing wrong with the economy, the numbers show it was worse during the Clinton years. Of course facts are not something Dems gravitate towards ( too complicated) its much easier to rely on emotions and someone telling you. If you went to school you'd know the economy goes up and down like this every 10 years or so regardless of who is in the WH. An economy won't see results of a President's policies for 10 years later, its called the lag. We are now seeing the results of the Clinton adminstrations' energy policies.

  • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 06/11/2008 12:35:03 PM

    Democrats propose things and then President Bush's vetoes or threats and with Republican support nothing gets done. Without a 2/3 majority and/or having the presidency, having only a slim majority in congress isn't all that powerful; reference the recent effort to get higher taxes through on the excessive profits made by the oil companies. Also McCain calls Obama the most liberal senator and exaggerates that he will institute higher taxes for everyone, not just for the wealthy and for the corporations who take advantage as Obama states. McCain and the Republicans also accuse the Democrats of being 'big government' and of over spending (neglecting to admit that the Bush administration has outspent, with negligible return, all previous administrations). The reality is that, whether Democrat or Republican, it is necessary to understand that the concentration over the last decade and longer, especially over the last seven plus years, has been on limiting spending to benefit Special Interests and a select few and literally neglecting everything else. If that doesn't change, with Democratic greater spending or whatever, things are only going to get worse: note America's decaying infrastructure and how the poor/middle classes are steadily loosing ground while only the wealthy are gaining. And it is important to see that America doesn???t have a ???trickle down??? economy as some try to sell but rather we have a ???bubble up??? economy where when the poor and especially the middle class are better off, then everyone, the whole economy benefits (in contrast to when the wealthy are better off, it pretty much stays there). That is the reality that is hurting!

    • Posted By: MikePalos @ 06/24/2008 5:15:04 PM

      Only Congress spends brainiak. Higher taxes on corps mean higher prices, where do you think they get the money to pay the taxes, you ass you.

  • Posted By: ploughman @ 06/11/2008 12:48:41 PM

    Indeed, Bush is bound to the same ideology-based messages and simply isn't enough of an independent thinker to think outside of them (or seriously reflect about how he has gone off-course). History won't reward stubbornness without accomplishment; the opportunity cost in time lost has just been too great. It'll be more like "What were we thinking?" when damage from energy, global warming and loss of hegemony comes into clearer relief. Bush's unwillingness to call on people outside the military to sacrifice anything also won't look good at all.

    A better president would be working hard on a compromise that allows for some short-term moves like oil drilling, but also acknowledges that there's no LONG-TERM oil-dominant strategy and the numbers for a "drill our way out" scenario don't add up, much as conservatives would like to believe otherwise. In that vein, funding for R&D across a number of alternative-energy fronts needs to be greatly increased. To take just one: upgrading the power grid for delivery of wind energy. It'd take a big initial government investment (a bit like Hoover Dam did), but would pay for itself eventually and is especially valuable because there's no waste product. Solar research also needs a big boost. But Bush and Cheney show a pattern of supporting mainly industries that are already big and well-lobbied, despite their pollution problems.

    • Posted By: Nins @ 06/11/2008 12:55:49 PM

      Bravo, Poughman! Great post.

      • Posted By: MikePalos @ 06/24/2008 5:10:07 PM

        We've had record high tax revenues during this admistration, which proves the tax cuts worked. What we didn't have is restraint on spending. Not a dollar get spent until Congress spends it.

  • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 06/11/2008 1:10:46 PM

    How destructive to the U.S. economy would a Barack Obama presidency be?

    An exclusive Newsmax analysis warns: There could be a very rough time ahead.

    Beneath Obama's flowery rhetoric lies a dangerous economic plan that will wreak havoc on the American economy.

    Obama plans to return to the failed policies of high taxation coupled with an expansion of government spending.

    Worse, Obama says he is absolutely committed to almost doubling the capital gains rate ??? something he will easily accomplish with a Democrat Congress.

    In the coming months ??? when investors realize that Obama will raise the cap gains rate ??? there could be a stampede of asset sales as investors rush to take their profits now to avoid Obama's doubling of the tax rates next year.

    All of these issues and more are explored in Newsmax magazine's special report "Obamanomics ??? the Coming Tax-and-Spend Nightmare," by Wall Street Journal columnist John Fund.

    This Newsmax magazine special report gives Americans the first in-depth look at the Democratic presidential candidate's likely strategies ??? and how they will affect not just the larger economy, but your personal wealth as well.

    Indeed, Obama makes no bones about his plans to go on a tax rampage. Not only would he increase the capital-gains tax rate from 15 percent to as much as 28 percent, he wants to allow the 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts to expire in 2010, which effectively raises taxes on Americans by tens of billions of dollars.

    He also wants to do away with the $102,000 FICA payroll tax cap, which means anyone making over $102,000 would pay an additional 7 percent in taxes on earned income.

    And the loan dividend tax rate George Bush implemented? Under President Obama it will be DOA!

    • Posted By: PaTriotDE @ 06/11/2008 1:26:58 PM

      Of course, and you believe in Newsmax, a conservative "news" organization backed and founded by conservatives to preserve and advance conservative values. The same people that brought us this economy, the war in Iraq, the most corrupt presidency in history and the most ignorant and unpopular president in history. Now go drink your cool aid moron.

      • Posted By: dave1228 @ 06/11/2008 3:00:51 PM

        I agree raising taxes would hurt. Even if its way above my tax bracket. If the rich get taxed more, they'll have less disposable income to buy the things the lower/middle class manufacture. I and many other Americans depend on the (marginally) rich having that money to blow. Take that and you take my job too.

        • Posted By: MikePalos @ 06/24/2008 5:08:05 PM

          The rich people are the ones WE get jobs from. Ever hear of someone getting a job from a poor person. If the rich hold back from spending who will buy these new technology vehicles. They start off with very high prices that only the rich can afford, eventually through mass production, & the recoup of R&D, the price is affordable by us. For example, the TV, the AUTO, the dishwasher, air conditioning etc. were all purchased first by someone rich, if they didn't buy it.; it went out of production _layoffs followed.

      • Posted By: MikePalos @ 06/24/2008 5:01:55 PM

        You obviously don't know squat about economics. For one thing Capital Gains affects everyone who wants to sell their home, little bitty people like me, not just investors in stock markets. Expiring Bushes tax cuts incurs an additional $1000 on an individual making only 40k per year. If you know how to figure your taxes it would be clear to you. But you prefer to let someone else do it. Stay ignorant and wonder why your spending money is dwindling

      • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 06/11/2008 9:03:54 PM

        FUCC YOU YOU LEFTIST AZZ WIPE IF I COULD FIND YOU I WOULD DRIVE MY 11' FOOT RIGHT UP YOUR LIBERAL AZZ

        • Posted By: nmcalpine @ 06/17/2008 3:18:35 PM

          Damn guy you got some big azz feet!

          • Posted By: nmcalpine @ 06/17/2008 3:35:23 PM

            11 feet?? Hell man do you do porn for a living.

  • Posted By: rtdugan04@hotmail.com @ 06/11/2008 1:44:34 PM

    I took Macroecomics last semester in school and see this differently. Americans have spent the last 25 years spending more than they make and getting by on debt, now it is coming back to bite us and we are all surprised. Americans need to wake up to the realization the Discover and AmEx are not going to solve our problems. If each of us were to be on a budget and spend less than we make, putting the extra money in our savings accounts, you would see our economy improve. Americans have to quit relying on the Fed & President Bush and start fixing the problem ourselves.

    • Posted By: MikePalos @ 06/24/2008 4:42:46 PM

      Oh geez, someone took an economics class. Its refreshing to hear an educated comment. Thank you!

  • Posted By: johnjohndoe @ 06/11/2008 1:53:34 PM

    Cheney and Bush created this economy, even their Puppet McCain won't be able to fix it, and if elected, Cheney and Bush will have the perftect nieve "FALL GUY", to cover their tails.

    • Posted By: summer4077 @ 06/11/2008 2:04:26 PM

      Ok, I really abhor Bush/Cheney and think they are terrible leaders. But honestly, Congress has a lot to do with this, too. They make policies and laws...Bush doesn't act alone in a vacuum of sorts. Congress was (and probably still is) filled with corrupt politicians who only want to line their pockets. The entire administration is what got us into this mess. Well, that and the Americans who willingly voted the chuckleheads in. I, for one, never supported this administration. Hopefully we can get started on the painful process of turning things around.

      • Posted By: MikePalos @ 06/24/2008 4:41:09 PM

        Not a dime or a dollar is spent until Congress spends it.

    • Posted By: prbkcc @ 06/11/2008 3:28:00 PM

      anyone who believes that the next elected official in any level of the US government, whether repub/dem or conserv/lib, is any less corrupt or is going to make everything all better is sadly ill-informed and naive. All of Washington is a giant game, and to play the game you have to make shady deals, lie, change stance, and do everything that every politicain is accused of. the actual good and decent politicans are the ones you will never hear anything about, either good or bad. its sad that we have been religated to picking the lesser of two evils all the time.

  • Posted By: soap box @ 06/11/2008 3:27:36 PM

    The wealthy people in this country have "disposable income" than when the robber barons were in power in the turn of the last century. Their money and the corporation's money are two different things. The Europeans think that the salaries that CEO's in this coulntry make are laughable. Much of their salaries should go to the stock holders and employees in the firm. This economy depends on cheep energy and a strong middle class. Right now we have neither. Why should the top 1% hold 40% of the wealth? Anyone who feels we depend on the fabulously wealthy is a sucker.

    • Posted By: MikePalos @ 06/24/2008 4:37:38 PM

      Try getting a job from a poor person.

  • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 06/15/2008 7:07:48 PM

    Quote of the Day........' My friends, we live in the greatest nation
    in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try
    to change it.' -- Barack Obama
    W.T.F.WHY CHANGE IT ......... ITS ALREADY THE GREATEST NATION !!!!! DUMB ASS OBAMA !

    • Posted By: nmcalpine @ 06/17/2008 12:41:01 PM

      I think that you are the dumb ass if you think that this nation doesn't need change. It is still the greatest nation that we know of but it will always be in need of change. That is how we have been able to compete in the global market we are a nation that is constantly changing and adjusting. That is also how we should be in our daily lives. Over the past 7+ years we have been changing only for the worst. You obviously don't like or agree with Mr. Obama and therefore you scrutinize everything that the man says without having a bit of objectivity but when you grow as a person you will learn the art of critical thinking and be able to listen to a person regaurdless of how you fell about them or their positions and be able to be objective and understand their message. Especially one as simple as the quote you just refered to.

      • Posted By: MikePalos @ 06/24/2008 4:30:49 PM

        This nation is always changing, what a lame slogan from a lame candidate who doesn't understand economics. Anyone who knows even the least about economics should know that a President can do VERY little for an economy in the short run. The effects of a presidents ecomic policy lags, usually well into the next presidents term. This is fundamental in economics. This is also evident with gas prices above $4. Due to policies made 10 years or more ago.

  • Posted By: Nins @ 06/20/2008 2:58:33 PM

    Hydrogen fuel cells are the answer to our gasoline crisis, not offshore drilling for more oil. Oil is a dirty industry with a very limited fuel supply remaining on the planet. Hydrogen fuel cells use algae to produce energy, and instead of producing CO2 (like oil and gasoline) they emit water and oxygen, which improve the atmosphere and help clean the air that you breathe. Hydrogen fuel cell cars have already been manufactured and work extremely well. General Motors, Honda and BMW all have hydrogen fuel cell cars IN PRODUCTION, not just in development. In five or ten years, we will all be driving them. Unless of course Newt Gingrich and Geo. W Bush succeed in blocking clean energy technology, and ramming this crazy offshore drilling bill through Congress.

    Want to dominate the global economy? THE FUTURE BELONGS TO THE NATION THAT CAN SUCCESSFULLY BREAK FREE OF FOSSIL FUEL. That is where your tax dollars should be going -- to strengthen America.

    Obama's education plan is unique in the history of America. He wants to train thousands of new scientists and engineers to create the best renewable energy infrastucture on the planet. That way, when the oil runs out, the OPEC countries will be coming to US for their energy needs.

    Obama is not just a tax and spend Democrat. His education program isn't about your kids taking more art classes, or getting a free ride through college. It is about investing iN American INDIVIDUALS, to STRENGTHEN the American economy. Why ship jobs overseas when we can create them right here while we break free from our oil dependence. Why pour billions into offshore drilling that will provide less than a decade's worth of oil and gas, when we could put that money into an energy infrastructure that really would free us and is renewable -- it would last forever.

  • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 06/11/2008 1:26:20 PM

    JUST SO YOU KNOW I'M SICK OF ALL THE THIS IS HISTORIC TIME FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT BULL *** IT WILL BE HISTORIC WHEN WE CAN ELECT SOMEONE WHO DON'T LIE TROUGH THIER TEETH TO GET ELECTED ALL THIS IS BULL *** PLAIN AND SIMPLE THE PARTIES DON'T CARE HOW WE FEEL THEY JUST DO WHATEVER THEY CAN TO GET THIER PERSON ELECTED AND WE FIGHT IT OUT ON THESES *** BLOGS WAKE UP PEOPLE ALL OF THE CANIDATES SUCK REAL BAD ARE CHOICES ARE DUMB OR DUMBER WHICH ONE DO YOU LIKE ???

    • Posted By: nmcalpine @ 06/17/2008 3:15:17 PM

      Stop crying you moron! You sound like a damn fool! If you don't like the candidates don't vote or better yet why don't you run for public office. Do something great for this country you so called "love". People always grip and complain while they are sitting on thier butt doing nothing. Nobody really cares what your sick of, the fact is these are historic times wether you like it or not. You and people like you are a lot like mustard you need to ketchup.

  • Posted By: Micky Marsh @ 06/17/2008 1:57:50 PM

    Because he only has six more months remaining in office and you need a five year plan to fix the economy. Americans are smart people you can't trick them with speeches like............MY PEOPLE OF AMERICA, ONE THING I CAN ASSURE YOU IS THAT, THE UNITED STATES DOLLAR WILL NOT BE DEVALUED IT WILL ONLY GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF DEPRECIATION.

  • Posted By: techie22 @ 06/14/2008 1:55:01 PM

    They don't teach that course at Regent University !

  • Posted By: Abou Declan @ 06/11/2008 9:31:30 AM

    All this racial nonsense....you people make me sick. I don't care if Obama is GREEN in color. If the MAN can talk, and do something; what care I for his skin color. So he has a better tan than me...so what?

    and all this blathering drivvel about slavery in the US, about 150 years ago.... come on! 150 years ago. To those who bleat like sheep and mewl about it, allow me to state my opinion that you are being discrimanatory. Here's why: Every single race, religion, and creed has, at one point in time or another, enslaved someone or been a slave to someone. Everyone. Therefore, you should bemoan the enslavement of various native american tribes, african tribes, white, blacks, hispanics, asians, etc... Where are your sympathies for the blacks in Africa who are still treated like cattle? Where is your anger for the little girls in India, who, because they're of a 'different class' are forced to be sex slaves or worse? Where's your outrage for them? How about the little boys in the deserts of Arabia who are forced to camel race? Where's that fiery rhetoric your spewing on us? ..or is your racist problem more akin to a selfish motive? It certainly must be because I haven't heard a single utterance of those poor people in Darfur. All those black who are being BUTCHERED because of two simple truths: They're black, and they're in Darfur.
    So to all you armchair race-whiners: grow up. You don't know what your talking about, so I think you should remain silent. You obviously fall into the category of selfish racist, because you obviously don't give a hoot about anyone else who was enslaved, is currently enslaved, or about to be. You're only thinking of how hard you've got it...yet you don't even bother to brush the insolence from your eyes and see what has happened to others; just yourselves.
    Ever wonder why southern blacks before the Civil War never carried the dynamite when blasting was occuring during the railroad building? That's because they were too expensive! The Irish were used instead, because they were cheap, and easily replacable. If one got blown up because the dynamite was 'sweating', that was OK...there'd be 20 more to take his place within an hour.
    So consider picking up some history books, grow some backbone, and open your eyes. You're not the only ones who've suffered. Not by any stretch of the imagination.

  • Posted By: jloclo @ 06/13/2008 12:53:29 AM

    NO,he has screwed us rolyally and now another election for the top seat. It will take years to rebuild america again. No one wants to wait for years to fix our problems that we are facing now. Thanks to all the lame politicians in this country that dont give a rats ass about it. Come on america, we are better and smarter than that to run this country. BUSH JR. is a daddy's boy. He's father was an idiot. Like father like son. Lets get rid of all those crooked politicians and the other idiots in office.

  • Posted By: paulte @ 06/11/2008 2:33:09 PM

    Americans are dumb and greedy. That's why we have the economic problems we do.

    Why do stupid Americans drive SUVs? We need smaller, more fuel efficient cars and people need to drive their cars less frequently. Start walking to the grocery store when you just need a carton of milk or a pack of cigarettes. The price of oil can't keep going up if demand goes down. Also, we should start shipping some of the Iraq oil over to the USA to help pay for that stupid war!

    The govt needs to get involved with the mortgage industry and reform it. All the damage done to the housing market can't be undone but the future can be completely different. People who can't afford mortgages can't buy houses from now on! Wow, that's simple. If that rule were in place, we wouldn't have the mortgage problem.

    It's all a matter of common sense. The problem is not the free market; it is Americans thinking thay can have it all. How about a little self-discipline America? Q: Why should 1 in 4 adults in NYC have the the herpes virus? A: Because they are pigs!

    • Posted By: Nadine122 @ 06/11/2008 2:37:50 PM

      Paulte,

      Gasoline has become a beast of its' own. It is no longer based on supply and demand, but rather speculation and INELASTIC DEMAND.

      There's no short solution for the problem.

      The problem, mainly, is that the current administration is pulling out all the stops to avoid a Recession. What a "Free Market" that is. Bear Stearns should have tanked - and yes, brought down many institutions, with it.

      We're living in a society that rewards recklessness and greed - on a corporate [LARGE] scale?

      Why would the Average Joe - the little guy - be any different??

      • Posted By: paulte @ 06/11/2008 4:45:28 PM

        If the govt decides to save a corporation in the interest of keeping a lot of average Joes and Janes from losing their jobs, then it can put the screws to that corporation as a penalty and monitor it. The message won't be lost on other corporations. Illegal and dishonest practices should be punished by the state.

        I don't agree that the demand for gas is inelastic. There is at least some room for decreasing consumption. I still say that so long as we stay in Iraq, we should take a certain amount of their oil to pay for our presence. That will help to put a downward pressure on oil prices. We also need to get back at all the oil producing nations in some manner.

        • Posted By: fat_fuel_holic @ 06/12/2008 11:59:50 PM

          Illegal and dishonest practices can't be punished by a state that is already dishonest. That is the equivalent of punishing terrorists by committing terrorism on them. Oh, wait, we're already doing that... Fact of the matter is, G-Dub is simply finishing up what Daddy failed at a long time ago and set it all up to where his Halliburton buddy and the Bush family- dripping with wealth from oil- their main career- benefit from it... Anyone who doesn't think this war is about oil and revenge is nuts. He (they) don't give a rat's posterior about the bad economy because they have enough wealth to weather it. Now it's up to "dub's" friend McCain (who sounds a lot like G-Dub if you close your eyes and listen) to carry on the Dub's regime and we pay $10 a gallon for fuel while our Country crumbles... Then there's O'Bama... Let's tear down the borders and let everyone in and drive the economy further into the hole and raise unemployment by unemploying the people already here paying their taxes and going broke doing it while the illegals simply take over.

          Sounds to me like it's time for a REVOLUTION!!!

          Everyone needs to go out, get a job and earn a living. We need to drill for oil right in the middle of the Pentagon if we have to, and damn the tree huggers and their demonspawn. Get over it, the natural resources we get from the Earth would have eventually oozed out and caught fire and burned creating pollution if there wasn't one soul here eating a jelly doughnut while listening on their Ipod and soaking up the cold air conditioning in their hybrid while wearing a hat, dark clothing and SPF-6134 sun screen. We can't control global warming. It's a cycle, just like the sun rising and setting.

          Like a case of bad gas, this too shall pass. It's gonna stink for awhile, though.

  • Posted By: MisterQ @ 06/12/2008 9:25:46 PM

    Unfortunately, the only thing that would remotely make increased domestic oil production affordable is the artificially high price of oil and low dollar. It's expensive to drill our reserrves. By the time you fix the economy, you've wasted your time and money and it's back to importing from cheap affordable sources so we can all drive at a cost we like. For better or wose, recovering from the oil crunch and the ugly years of deficit war spending probably both take the form of some kind of direct discount access to Iraq's oil.

  • Posted By: joyoung @ 06/11/2008 3:42:02 PM

    part of the solution to this problem would be a terrorist attack on washington d.c. that kills every single politician running the government. we've already seen over the last 2 decades that the government does nothing for americans. i'm quite certain we could do better ourselves. i guess it's too bad kennedy's stroke didn't kill him.

    • Posted By: Southlander @ 06/12/2008 8:16:23 PM

      little strong there don't ya think?

  • Posted By: Southlander @ 06/12/2008 8:09:40 PM

    All this, as China drills for oil 60 miles off the Florida coast. The only way to fix this crisis is to drill for oil in America. All of this non-sense that government is doing with slamming the oil exexs is wastefull in of itself. Oil drives everything, including our economy. Why can't these brillant minds running our country see that? Bring oil prices down and people will have more money to spend in other area and other things. Oil comes first. It's now as important as oxygen.....oh crap! Now that I've said they will start imposing a tax on it too!!.....Idiots!

  • Posted By: Wile @ 06/12/2008 9:51:12 AM

    If all debt were to be repaid to bankers, public & private, there would be no money in circulation. They make the money so easily on a computer or a press & force people to use their slave credits through the federal income tax laws. These laws demand all taxes be paid in reserve notes. Once you understand this process, you'll know that much more debt/principle/money is needed every day to service the prior day's debts. This process can't go on forever. The fed warns people of debt & inflation in the Media while causing all of it.

  • Posted By: armandojibarra @ 06/12/2008 1:14:29 AM

    Hi Mr. Aqueduct. You are doing a mighty fine job of carrying water for Obama and the Democrats.

    Your article is completely out of touch. Do you anything about economics? I think not.

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