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  • Posted By: Rametyn @ 06/11/2008 8:31:45 PM

    Kaboogie, you are comparing traitor and treason to a man breaking down under the unbelievable atrocities of TORTURE.
    TORTURE, where you probably wouldn't last five seconds enduring. Then could we all call you a traitor?
    Unbelievable.
    And like I said. Try to keep making something out of nothing. You still haven't posted an explanation as to why this is still not NEW RIGHT NOW! Except to you. LOL
    Where is it on CNN RIGHT NOW, or FOX, or CBS
    IT isn't--because there is nothing there.
    YOU ARE HARD HEADED IMBESIL!
    Do you not at least have the intelligence to understand that if Mccain was a traitor, then it would be everywhere right now, and his nomination recanted and discarded as quick as you can say bull shyte.
    But it isn't, because THERE IS NOTHING THERE>

    Still waiting.
    GO on
    Tell these good people why it is not on any news station right now.
    C'mon
    Tell them.

    I'll wait for that post, but doubt I will see it.

    BECAUSE YOU CAN"T!!!!

    • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/11/2008 9:03:08 PM

      But, I am stringing you along at my leisure. Dickhead, didn't I tell you this was JUST ON CNN LAST WEEKEND. Read the whole post!! I know it takes a while for your type, but geeeeez. Ok here we go:

      Did John McCain betray US in Vietnam?

      "In his book, the Arizona Senator repeatedly expresses guilt and disgrace at having broken under torture and given the North Vietnamese a taped confession, broadcast over the camp loudspeakers, saying he was a war criminal who had, among other acts, bombed a school. "I felt faithless and couldn't control my despair," he writes. He writes, revealing that he made two half-hearted attempts at suicide. Most tellingly, he said he lived in "dread" that his father would find out. "I still wince," he says, "when I recall wondering if my father had heard of my disgrace."

      It's time for you to do your own research, now. But, I'm sure you won't. It sounds like you may not be able to handle it. As for torture, I was in a coma for 30 days, because I refused to disavow what I believed in. NOTHING shakes me nancyboy!! MCCAIN is a b*tchazz TRAITOR!!! AND your a sympathizer, F*ck you and your blind patriotism. He will not be Pres. Don't take my word for it........check the polls.

      Now, read through all my posts...gather what you've learned today....do your research....google if you're not privy to certain info....and shut the f*ck up!!

  • Posted By: Rametyn @ 06/11/2008 8:39:40 PM

    Just so you know, this goes to my statement about vile behavior in the manner of disrespect.
    Playing on someone's unfortunate pain for political gain is sick.

    You torture someone long enough, they will tell you they killed JFK if that is what they want to hear.
    To use something someone says against them--obtained by means of such inhuman behavior--just shows how low a person you are.
    Funny how you Dems pull such underhanded, honorless crap just to win an election--all the while crying that waterboarding techniques are inhumane as well.
    What a bunch of hypocrits

    • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/11/2008 8:54:20 PM

      Sort of like what the GOP did to Kerry? Or, even better, when MCTRAITOR cheated on his crippled wife to marry a teenage barbiedoll? Get off your high horse!! You wish the GOP had something like this on Obama!! I won't miss one wink of sleep spreading the truth about MCCAIN. Oh yeah, did I send you this one:

      Did John McCain betray US in Vietnam?

      "In his book, the Arizona Senator repeatedly expresses guilt and disgrace at having broken under torture and given the North Vietnamese a taped confession, broadcast over the camp loudspeakers, saying he was a war criminal who had, among other acts, bombed a school. "I felt faithless and couldn't control my despair," he writes. He writes, revealing that he made two half-hearted attempts at suicide. Most tellingly, he said he lived in "dread" that his father would find out. "I still wince," he says, "when I recall wondering if my father had heard of my disgrace."

  • Posted By: Rametyn @ 06/11/2008 8:45:28 PM

    AND YOU Haven;t killed anyone,

    SEE. Just how stupid you look. That you will say anything. ANYTHING. just further comprises the integrity of anything you say. The more bs claims you make, the more idiotic you look.
    Uh it was on last weekend.
    That's a real source we can count on.
    Where? What Channe? Show me the transcript you idiophyle.

    It is you who are the joke.
    I'm sure everyone in here can feel me shaking in my boots as we speak.
    LOL

    Like I said.

    Everyone is a bad ass.

    On a COMPUTER

    LOL

  • Posted By: Rametyn @ 06/11/2008 6:09:40 PM

    Like I said you babbling idiot, how about you tell me one single Democratic party member who has called John Mcain a traitor. You want to get all your information from a liberal piece of slander reporting, that's your business. Funny how you seem to know what your party doesn't--because none of the "dare" call him a traitor.
    And uh, you seem to be jerking it just fine over on your end. LOL
    Other than your "CNN" insight, what evidence do you have to PROVE he committed treason. Guess the media wasn't soft on Obama, and they don't report with an agenda after all. LOL
    And like I said, without having ever sacrificed anything so that you could have the right--the freedom--to sit here and spout your bloviated bs--you probably will never understand.
    Your here safe, protected, sitting in comfort with the ability to call people traitors BECAUSE these people suffered for you fool. The same way you are protected in ways you cannot imagine everyday by men and women who serve in our armed forces.
    The only thing that will ever ring true to you people is if the Dem's did cause the collapse of national security and people did invade our country, and pulled spoiled little babies like you kicking and crying out off your computer and out in your yard--right before decapating you.
    The people we are fighting want to kill you genius.
    And given the insight and intelligence of individuals LIKE yourself, that time may not be far off.
    Just hope they get you before me you disrespectful lout.
    Keep sacrificing your moral convictions, your honor, and your common sense because your party HAS TO WIN for the sake of winning.
    You're brilliant

    • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/11/2008 7:02:49 PM

      You're more of an idiot than I thought. "sacrificed for ME......fought for my freedoms".... I thought we were talking about the Vietnam war, bonehead!!! Noone over there was fighting for OUR FREEDOMS. Research the history of that war, b*tch!!!! Yes, it's very easy for me to call you and anyone who has betrayed this country a "panzyazz TRAITOR"!!!! I gave you a ton of sources other than just CNN. Take a look at all of them, MORON!!!! There's only one thing worse than I blind patriot......a KOOLAID drinking, blind patriot. Dumbass!!! Do your research, bitchazz!!!

      • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 06/11/2008 7:45:41 PM

        Is this change we can believe in?

        • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/11/2008 8:44:24 PM

          HAhAHAHA! You finally made me laugh. That was good!!!

      • Posted By: Rametyn @ 06/11/2008 7:28:03 PM

        Whay other resources did you cite. Not one. You come down here and repost to try and make up for the absolute stupidity of your statements. And as for fighting for our freedom--I mean by joining the military in the first place you f cking dum shyte. The Vietman War just happened to be the one Mcain got caught up in, but he JOINED the military to served his country, to protect our freedoms, and to fight in ANY war that may aide in continuing the interests of our nation, Talk about TREASON you are the empitomy of it. Living under the shelter of a free society and cursing the very people that provide it. Are you REALLY DUMB ENOUGH TO BELIEVE THAT WITHOUT THE MILITARY WE WOULD NOT BE INVADED TOMORROW YOU F CKING MORON?
        For me, I truly believe you are.
        As long as there is no threat TO YOU directly, you are FREE to sit here and make traitoristic comments about your own country and the people that protect it all you want. YOU GIANT F CKING PUZZY

        • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/11/2008 8:20:16 PM

          I'm cursing one man...the TRAITOR JOHN MCCAIN......Not the entire military.

          Did John McCain betray US in Vietnam?
          In his book, the Arizona Senator repeatedly expresses guilt and disgrace at having broken under torture and given the North Vietnamese a taped confession, broadcast over the camp loudspeakers, saying he was a war criminal who had, among other acts, bombed a school. "I felt faithless and couldn't control my despair," he writes. He writes, revealing that he made two half-hearted attempts at suicide. Most tellingly, he said he lived in "dread" that his father would find out. "I still wince," he says, "when I recall wondering if my father had heard of my disgrace."

          Want more?!!?! Here ya go.........

          "POWs against John McCain" or,
          -http://www.vvof.org/mccain_hides.htm or,
          -http://www.usvetdsp.com/smith_mc.htm or,
          - http://educate-yourself.org/cn/earlhopperinterview08feb08.shtml

          Be careful what you wish for, stupid MORON, or you just might end up looking like a stupid MORON!! I'm glad to see you're finally getting angry. It makes it funnier when you go down. You're too easy. Dumbass!! Your turn to disprove all of my sources, evidence, documentation. Or you can just shut up now!!

  • Posted By: Rametyn @ 06/11/2008 7:39:05 PM

    By the way Kboobie, all the sources you gave are conservative lambasting affiliates of liberal idealism, of course they ran with it. But it is still all the same rhetoric about the same story THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DISCREDITED!
    That's why you have to cite them. It is old news. IF there were any merit to it--IT WOULD STILL BE NEWS.
    Jeez you are retarded.
    The reason that it is not all over the new NOW is because there was nothing there you loser!

    • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/11/2008 8:38:56 PM

      This story was as recent as last weekend. You're an idiot!!!

      Did John McCain betray US in Vietnam?

      "In his book, the Arizona Senator repeatedly expresses guilt and disgrace at having broken under torture and given the North Vietnamese a taped confession, broadcast over the camp loudspeakers, saying he was a war criminal who had, among other acts, bombed a school. "I felt faithless and couldn't control my despair," he writes. He writes, revealing that he made two half-hearted attempts at suicide. Most tellingly, he said he lived in "dread" that his father would find out. "I still wince," he says, "when I recall wondering if my father had heard of my disgrace."

      Did you get the first few words?!?! IN HIS BOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: VoteResponsibly08 @ 06/11/2008 8:01:34 PM

    No vote for Obama from me..His associations with radical racist anti-americans is not my kind of a President that I would want for my country. The media may quiet this down but I will certainly as a dem will not be voting for Obama. First time in 30 years I will vote Republican..
    As a Clinton supporter I will not vote for a democratic person like Obama as mentioned above and also I think the DNC , along with Obama an dhis bullies treated Mrs. Clinton very disrespectful and now Obama is saying wonderful things about Mrs. clinton...He denounces his mentor, preacher, friend of twenty years, he quits his church of hate after twenty years, he now wears the flag I wonder why? well I will tell you:
    self serving political gain!, what does he think Americans are? Idiots??? No I don't think so!!!

    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 06/11/2008 8:15:02 PM

      Sounds to me like you hit the nail right on the head. But they dont think we're idiots, they think we're a bunch of azzholes. Even an idiot would atleast question some of the mis-votes, flip floping stances, present votes, rezko, unpatriotic wife who for the first time is really proud of her country, church that hates America and loves Africa, no lapel, no hand on heart, commitment to Africa, a christian who loves Farrakkkhan (a well known white, jew, spanish hater who praised hitler for rising Germany from the ashes) And is not even christian. Selma? Grannys a typical white person. Not to mention his self admitted hatred for white while growing up. No mention of when he started to feel differently about whites. Weird huh?

      • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/11/2008 8:36:42 PM

        I'd take ALL of that, instead of a TRAITOR!!

        Did John McCain betray US in Vietnam?

        "In his book, the Arizona Senator repeatedly expresses guilt and disgrace at having broken under torture and given the North Vietnamese a taped confession, broadcast over the camp loudspeakers, saying he was a war criminal who had, among other acts, bombed a school. "I felt faithless and couldn't control my despair," he writes. He writes, revealing that he made two half-hearted attempts at suicide. Most tellingly, he said he lived in "dread" that his father would find out. "I still wince," he says, "when I recall wondering if my father had heard of my disgrace."

  • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 06/11/2008 8:27:39 PM

    As told by another ...

    I remember the time that Catherine, one of my daughter Shannon's friends
    when she was little, told me that she wanted to be President one day.
    Both of her parents are liberal Democrats and were standing there with
    us - and I asked Catherine, 'If you were President what would be the
    first thing you would do?'

    Catherine replied, 'I would give houses to all the homeless people.'

    'Wow, what a worthy goal you have there, Catherine.' I told her, 'You
    don't have to wait until you are President to do that, you can come over
    to my house and clean up all the dog poop in the back yard and I will
    pay you $5. Then we can go over to the grocery store where the homeless
    guy hangs out, and you can give him the $5 to use for a new house.'

    Catherine, who was about 4, thought that over for a second, while her
    mom looked at me, and Catherine replied, 'Why doesn't the homeless guy
    come over and clean up the dog poop and you can pay him the $5.'

    Welcome to the Republican Party, Catherine!



  • Posted By: Rametyn @ 06/11/2008 6:13:35 PM

    Oh, by the way Kboogie fool
    Look up Phoenix News Times.

    And I quote. "These claims about Mcain all disintegrate upon closer inspection"

    You freaking idiot

    • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/11/2008 6:56:18 PM

      Hey d*ckhead, you have one reference from a source that's based in McCain's state. (Talk about bias)You're too easy. I bet you were one of the guys who bought the "pet rock". MORON!! I gave you six sources, plus a CNN interview done WITH MCCAIN.....in his OWN voice where he APOLOGIZES for TREASON!!!!!!!! 2 words for you, bonehead......MORE RESEARCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Posted By: Rametyn @ 06/11/2008 7:02:12 PM

        He neve apologized for treason. Wow, you don't even have to put any truth behind what you say. Post the transcript where he said that you moraless hoser. And I only posted one proof of disclaiming your accusations cause I thought you may be smart enough to get it at that--does someone need to post more than that so that you look stupid a buch of times? Even after you get it discredited its not enough, and never will be with fools like you. The truth doesn't matter, you have to believe what you believe, or otherwise admit to yourself you are a fool LOL

        • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/11/2008 8:13:17 PM

          Yes! Post more sources disproving my claims and sources. And, make sure it's not one based in AZ.

          Did John McCain betray US in Vietnam?
          IN HIS BOOK, the Arizona Senator repeatedly expresses guilt and disgrace at having broken under torture and given the North Vietnamese a taped confession, broadcast over the camp loudspeakers, saying he was a war criminal who had, among other acts, bombed a school. "I felt faithless and couldn't control my despair," he writes. He writes, revealing that he made two half-hearted attempts at suicide. Most tellingly, he said he lived in "dread" that his father would find out. "I still wince," he says, "when I recall wondering if my father had heard of my disgrace."

          Do you want more, b/c I can continue busting you up all night. What's your excuse, now, b*tchazz fool!!??

  • Posted By: VoteResponsibly08 @ 06/11/2008 8:10:28 PM

    Chris Mathews, Oberman and Mika shd be dumped!..They are all disgusting...specially Oberman..
    who is so jealous of O'Reily! Ha ha ha..the poor guy feels so inferior to Bill..well in all truthfullness he is!
    Ha ha ha

  • Posted By: VoteResponsibly08 @ 06/11/2008 8:08:22 PM

    I would rather see McCain who is a true American a Maverick and is more of an independent.
    Than having a Radical Racist Anti-American Supporter...Who is Obama? What are his accomplishments?
    No thank you no more risks for me.

  • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 06/11/2008 7:55:09 PM

    Uh, er, um, hmmm.

    Stumped; Obama campaign's own surrogates are left utterly stumped.

    Chris Mathew was surprised when the Obama campaign's own surrogates
    are left utterly stumped when asked to list his legislative
    accomplishments as a Senator.


    This 1 minute video is a MUST SEE! It will open your eyes!


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGeu_4Ekx-o

    • Posted By: eternity875 @ 06/11/2008 8:03:25 PM

      That's because Chris Mathews plays "softball" and is too busy following Obama around like a puppy dog...disgusting...I stopped watching him moons ago because he is so biased it's repulsive. This is really good...Thanks!

  • Posted By: Rametyn @ 06/11/2008 6:40:03 PM

    Kboogie: keep posting that even though I already showed you where the Pheonix Sun Times discredits your claims. It makes you look like an even bigger idiot.

    • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/11/2008 6:50:51 PM

      I didn't see your post, azzhole! Sure, I'll keep posting it until I do, though. TRAITOR lover!! Please, oh please never join the military. We know you'd break. B*tchazz fool.

      • Posted By: Rametyn @ 06/11/2008 7:06:28 PM

        You said show me one I dare you--so I did. Never enough for you idiots. You'll keep on trapsing on with your crap even though everyone in here knows its crap. And if you can''t tell by my staunch support for the military__ I already did join, as an Operations Specialist--veteran of Desert Storm.
        Like I said, you are just a discrespectful little punk that doesn't understand that in order to be taken seriously you have to back up at least some of what you say with a hint of tangible merit; and that you never quite know who you are talking to online when you are spouting off you pansy rants of bs

        • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/11/2008 8:03:06 PM

          Again, a little slower this time, b*tch!! I GAVE YOU SIX SOURCES THAT PROVED/DOCUMENTED/SUPPORTED MY CLAIMS. I tear you f*ckers apart, easy. So, yes, you have no clue who you are posting to. Your "miltary status" does not make you an authority on politics. And, your "view" means nothing until one is given to you. So, get ready to SALUTE Pres. Obama, and shut the f*ck up!!

  • Posted By: Rametyn @ 06/11/2008 6:50:57 PM

    Then you are a hypocrit as well Kboogie, claiming Mcain is bad because he was a womanizer, but would vote for Clinton even though he was one too.

    You are a moron

    • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/11/2008 7:55:30 PM

      MCAIN'S not just a womanizer...you forgot TRAITOR, FRAUD, CROOK. Very important, get it right.

  • Posted By: Rametyn @ 06/11/2008 7:16:32 PM

    Right Kboogie, and Dan Rather didn't get fired for doing the same thing LOL
    Like I said, your claims have been discredited--they have no merit--and like I said--the only ones calling him a traitor are misinformed people such as yourself that believe everything they see on TV because it lines up with what you need to believe so that you can convince yourself Obama is a better candidate. Good Luck with that. LOL
    Spouting off unjustified tripe, especially when it comes to people who sacrificed for their country--whether you care or not--makes it impossible for anyone to take you seriously.

    • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/11/2008 7:53:41 PM

      Then why, oh why do you keep responding, bonehead?!?! And, how many times do I have to say it...... i gave you 6 sources, including the CNN piece where McC admitted and apologized for TREASON. Do I need to show you more? I know the truth hurts, but geeeez!!!!! You're hanging on to my EVERY word, jerkoff. Access the sources yourself. The files of McCAIN's interrogation and military history were finally declassified, after 40 years, when evryone else had already been opened. Put that KOOLAID down!!

  • Posted By: eternity875 @ 06/11/2008 7:52:31 PM

    As a barely right of center voter, I enjoyed your article and found it had a lot of merit. I believe Obama is untested and I'm not sure we want a POTUS who is in political kindergarten. I also like the idea of checks and balances by having both parties in power. One-party power leads to corruption and overspending. I find that I trust John McCain with America more than I do Barack Obama...we'll see how it goes by November.

  • Posted By: Rametyn @ 06/11/2008 7:32:43 PM

    Your really have no idea how stupid you look do you Kboobie.
    You have been called, disproved, and tamped down with facts to oppose your idiotic rambling. And still you just keep going.
    If a nuclear war were to break out, the only thing that would be left would be you and the energizer bunny.
    If all you have left is name calling and sarcastic remarks, it proves how backed into a corner you are and that you can no longer debate the issue with any intelligent claim.
    Like I said, you have been DISPROVED!

    • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/11/2008 7:44:39 PM

      DISPROVED by who?!?!?! You?!?!?! I gave you 6 sources, incuding a CNN account of a taped apology by MCCAIN. You're either an impossible MORON, or you should open a KOOLAID stand w/ the amount of stock you have. You offered a source from a Phoenix paper. Phoenix!!!! Which happens to be MCAIN's state. Listen, dickbreath. Look up the word "disprove" and follow it. Then get back to me. Until you can offer something serious, stay out of grow folks business, B*TCH!!!

  • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 06/11/2008 2:56:15 PM

    Bill Cosby on Rev. Wright

    Article from Wall Street Journal:

    Rev.Wright epitomizes the thoughts and actions that have prevented and continue to prevent black America from moving ahead and achieving their potential as a people. He suggests that this United States of America made up of sons and daughters of immigrants (I'm talking of the millions of 1st, 2nd, 3rd generation immigrants in this country) of every race, creed, color and religion each and everyone of them who had nothing to do with slavery, some how owe something to a group of people who have never been slaves? Its amazing. It seems everyone is to blame for the shambles black society is in with its violence, drugs, high school drop out rates, misogyny, and a host of other real and virulent problems, except for the very people who engage in such behavior. Enough. As a society, culture or people, they should look within themselves and fix their problems. When did this man become the spokesman for the 'black church'? And of course his church is different, but that doesn't mean his message and philosophy is acceptable, or productive or non-offensive or not-racist or indicative or our greater cultural behaviors, values and norms Americans. And yes, the link between this man and Obama really does matter. At a very minimum, it provides insight into the political and philosophical strain that Obama adheres to.

    Comment by Bill Cosby

    • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/11/2008 3:26:48 PM

      You're a f*cking, piece of sh*t azzhole liar!!! Do your due diligence before you post anymore b*llsh*t!!!!

      This was not from an "article" in the Wall Street Journal.

      It was from the Wall Street Journal blog a "comment" section in which readers can attach their responses to an article.

      In this case a Wall Street Journal article was posted in the blog on April 28, 2008 titled Rev. Wright Talks About Reconciliation.

      The text that was circulated in the eRumor was one of many comments submitted by readers and was described as having been written by "Bill Cosby." There is no evidence whether it was the comedian, someone else with the same name, or someone simply claiming to be Bill Cosby.

      • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 06/11/2008 5:06:28 PM

        Wow, is the hostility the change we can expect if Obama were to be elected? Change for the bad is not the change this country needs black or white.

        • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/11/2008 7:36:14 PM

          Yep!!! Especially when you LIE!!

    • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/11/2008 3:16:11 PM

      YOU said, "..it provides insight into the political and philosophical strain that Obama adheres to."

      How so? Please explain how Rev. Wright's comments provides this insight into Obama's positions. For almost 2 years, Obama has explained his views on race, religion, humanity, and culture. Not once have I heard FROM HIM anything that would make me think that he "adheres" to any of Rev. Wrights beliefs. His policies and stances are, actually, the exact opposite. So please, what have we all been missing? What proof/documentation/speeches are you privy to, that the masses have not yet reviewed? Without any of the above, your logic is based on YOUR assumption, or YOUR rationale of "guilt by association". At best, it's a biased OPINION of a candidate that you don't support.

      Which ever way you want to spin it....have fun. And, don't spill your KOOL-AID.

      Don't forget..........Oh happy day!!!!!!!!!! Bad news for McGremlin.......

      Today's Gallup - "Since Hillary Clinton decided to concede the Democratic nomination to Barack Obama last week, Obama has established a lead over Republican John McCain in general-election polling. Obama's gains have come more from women than men, though he has picked up among both groups in recent days.
      Obama's lead among women has now expanded from five percentage points to 13."

      Wait guys, it gets better..........

      "One of Clinton's core groups of supporters during the nomination phase of the campaign was older women. During the last few days of her active candidacy, Clinton led McCain by 51% to 41% among women aged 50 and older, while Obama trailed McCain among this group, 46% to 43%.

      Since Clinton suspended her campaign, older women's vote preferences have shifted toward Obama, so that he now enjoys a six-point advantage over McCain."

      Oh happy day!!!!!! The TRAITOR, CROOK, FRAUD, WOMANIZER is slowly dying!!!

      • Posted By: News and Notes @ 06/11/2008 3:57:05 PM

        Women are following Hillary's lead. What about blue collar men and Latinos?

        • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/11/2008 4:25:02 PM

          I can't do all your work for you. Do your own research, and get back to me. At the same time, check the national numbers. Who cares how they break down?!?!

          • Posted By: News and Notes @ 06/11/2008 4:59:29 PM

            You don't have to do any work. Some of Hillary's supporters are following her lead and transitioning to Obama. Obama has a lot of work to do to convince some of the others, and he needs them badly

      • Posted By: News and Notes @ 06/11/2008 3:58:19 PM

        What do you mean the Traitor, Crook, Fraud, Womanizer is slowly dying? Has Obama dropped out ?

        • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/11/2008 4:23:06 PM

          Cute! Check the polls.

    • Posted By: joe_mama @ 06/11/2008 3:22:48 PM

      Actually, Cosby has been pushing this direction for a long time. He is among the "stop whining and do something about it" crowd within the African American community, and he is not alone (I agree, Reverend Wright IS mired in the past).

      Where I disagree with him is the root of the feelings expressed by Reverend Wright. Granted, my parents feel the same way and have tried to get me to share the views. I, however, like Obama, respect their feelings EVEN THOUGH WE DISAGREE WITH THEM. We respect their feelings because we know that they've seen America at it's worst and are frightened (yes, frightened) that it could ever happen again.

      Unfortunately, when caucasions pronounce judgement on him without being able to back it up with logic (like Mr. Cosby), it only serves to reinforce those views and makes it much more difficult for young African Americans (such as myself and Obama) to convince them otherwise

      All of which proves, yet again, that African Americans ARE NOT blinded by skin tone and do not think or act in unison.

      Thank you for proving my point.

    • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/11/2008 3:20:41 PM

      You're a f*cking, piece of sh*t azzhole liar!!! Do your due diligence before you post anymore b*llsh*t!!!!

      This was not from an "article" in the Wall Street Journal.

      It was from the Wall Street Journal blog a "comment" section in which readers can attach their responses to an article.

      In this case a Wall Street Journal article was posted in the blog on April 28, 2008 titled Rev. Wright Talks About Reconciliation.

      The text that was circulated in the eRumor was one of many comments submitted by readers and was described as having been written by "Bill Cosby." There is no evidence whether it was the comedian, someone else with the same name, or someone simply claiming to be Bill Cosby.

  • Posted By: joe_mama @ 06/11/2008 3:16:53 PM

    For all you who don't believe Blacks have minds of their own, consider this.....

    1) in 1984, Jesse Jackson only got 77% of the African American vote. He didn't jump into the 90s until 1988, AFTER he proved that he could actually run a campaign (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=940DEFD9173AF930A25755C0A96E948260)

    2) in 1972 Shirley Chisholm received a little over 430,000 votes in the democratic primaries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_%28United_States%29_presidential_primaries%2C_1972). There were over 7,000,000 total African American voters (http://www.eac.gov/clearinghouse/docs/voter-registration-and-turnout-in-federal-elections-by-race_ethnicity-1972.pdf/attachment_download/file), which means, assuming EVERY one of her votes were African American, she only recieved on 6% of the African American vote.

    3) In 1996, Alan Keyes received just over 471,000 votes (http://www.ourcampaigns.com/RaceDetail.html?RaceID=13494), yet there were nearly 22,000,000 registered African American voters (http://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/voting/tabA-1.xls, http://allcountries.org/uscensus/10_resident_population_selected_characteristics_and_projections.html). Assuming (as you must) that all his support was from African Americans, he received barely 2% of the African American vote.

    4) In 2000, competing such notable African Americans as Al Gore and Bill Bradley, Keyes did much better, he got nearly 1 million votes (http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/national.php?year=2000&off=0&elect=2&f=0), or 4% of registered African American votes (http://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/voting/tabA-1.xls, http://allcountries.org/uscensus/10_resident_population_selected_characteristics_and_projections.html).

    5) all the African American candidates--Al Sharpton, Carol Moseley Braun, Mildred Glover (who?), Arthur H. Jackson Jr. (ibid), and Willie Felix Carter (there may have been others, but I couldn't find their pictures!)--combined for 483, 711 votes in the 2004 Democratic Primaries (http://www.ourcampaigns.com/RaceDetail.html?RaceID=1689). This represents less than 1% of all registered African Americans. (http://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/voting/tabA-1.xls, http://allcountries.org/uscensus/10_resident_population_selected_characteristics_and_projections.html)

    Now tell me again, this time with proof, that African Americans blindly vote for skin color

    oh yeah, you CAN'T
    HA! HA! HA! HA!

    • Posted By: Richard1327 @ 06/11/2008 3:21:08 PM

      2008 - 95% of blacks vote for Barack Obama.

      • Posted By: joe_mama @ 06/11/2008 3:25:29 PM

        Precisely,

        95% of African Americans agree with his views.

        Thank you for proving my point.

        • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 06/11/2008 3:40:10 PM

          Is that why they had to know if he was black enough? Because race didnt matter. Very comical

          • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/11/2008 4:06:39 PM

            Race started to matter after Bill C. opened his mouth after South Carolina. Before then, race was not mentioned by either campaign. When Bill trivialized Obama's win in S. Carolina, he spit in the face of his and HRC's most loyal constituents. Blame Bill for the black communtiy's desertion. The truth hurts, kiddo.

            • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 06/11/2008 4:32:24 PM

              Say your kiddin. Please say your not trying to blame Bill for 950000 out of 1000000 black voters voting for the black guy after they asked was he black enough. Once the rev Wright issue took hold is when they decided he was black enough and voted for him Overwhelmingly. Blacks hate white people, the proof is in the 95% who agreed with wright. Who thought "what did he say that was so wrong?" The ones who thought a solution to black on black crime would be to attack whitey instead. Ask Michelle

              • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/11/2008 7:34:41 PM

                What the hell are you talking about? You are an absolute idiot!! "95% of blacks hate white people"?? "95% agree w/ Rev Wright"?? What a moron you are. You spew more undocumented, unresearched, biased, non-sensical b*llsh*t than anyone here. It used to be fun proving you wrong. You're so mentally crippled, it's a shame to pick on you. The fact that you're supporting a traitor is enough to cut you off. You're dismissed!!! MORON!

            • Posted By: Richard1327 @ 06/11/2008 4:17:27 PM

              B. S. They were just waiting for an excuse to hate the Clintons and move over to Obama. Bill said nothing that couldn't have been dropped after an hour. They made a huge deal out of Bill's comment regarding how Jesse Jackson won SC, but lost the nomination so they would feel JUSTIFIED in ditching the Clintons after the Clintons supported the black community for 8 years like no other president in the past including JFK.

        • Posted By: joe_mama @ 06/11/2008 3:29:35 PM

          I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and I'm ASSUMING you mean 95% of REGISTERED Black voters.

          Of course, you've offered no source for your estimate....

          • Posted By: Richard1327 @ 06/11/2008 3:43:52 PM

            The results of the primaries and demographics breakdown showed 93-98% of registered Dem black voters voted for Obama.

        • Posted By: Richard1327 @ 06/11/2008 3:28:03 PM

          You're welcome. Glad to help.

    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 06/11/2008 3:42:55 PM

      Well this is certainly an easy one. Like a lobbed softball to Hank Arron. Can you say.....IS HE BLACK ENOUGH? Blacks needed to know if he was black enough for their vote. And you say, race means nothing to the black community?

      • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/11/2008 4:03:33 PM

        Race means to the black communtiy, as much as it does to the white community. What's your point?

        HRC was still getting the majority of the black vote before she and Bill trivialized Obama's win in South Carolina. This disappointed the majority of the black community that supported them in 2 straight elections. It was seen as a betrayal. In turn, the very folks who trusted the Clintons were forever turned off. Thus, you lose ALL of your support. If Bill would have kept his mouth shut, and if Hillary didn't tell us "Obama can't get the white vote". She would have kept a large number of her supporters. Maybe not All....but the numbers wouldn't have been as overwhelming.

        But, keep generalizing.....it seems to bring you comfort. You're going to need it. McCain is dying FAST in the national polls. You'll be saluting a man of African descent pretty soon, mi amigo.

        • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 06/11/2008 4:23:43 PM

          If she was winning the black vote then how do you explain how she lost SC in the first place? Stop condescending yourself. She cant take the AA vote and lose because of the AA vote at the same time. The support she had recieved in the past was because she or Bill wasnt running against another AA. Keep spinning the facts, it seems to bring you comfort. Your going to need it. Very soon you will once again be screaming it's whiteys fault you wasted your life.

          • Posted By: Kboogie @ 06/11/2008 4:57:02 PM

            She didn't lose 95% of the black vote in S. Carolina, stupid moron!! Check the figures. Again, you have no supporting evidence to back your idiotic claims. The shift of black voters didn't occur until after the SC primary.

            "Exit polls indicate that race became a factor in the South Carolina contest after Hillary Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, made attacks on Obama that troubled some blacks. One prominent black South Carolina Democrat even told the former president publicly that he should tone down his rhetoric. "

            So, YOU keep spinning the facts, bonehead. Not one post of your shows merit or credibility. Salute, b*tch, SALUTE!!! You wish you had my life, trash.

  • Posted By: chindognyc @ 06/11/2008 7:21:38 PM

    Who is the lady on the McCain team who is his economic adviser. They are talking about Obama, but this lady use to work for HP and she worked on the layoff of thousands of workers and helped to ship jobs overseas. She also said that jobs are not America's god given right. This is McCains economic adviser. Hillary supporters, you have to be smarter then this.

  • Posted By: pugs @ 06/11/2008 7:12:32 PM

    In other words once again we have two sucky people to choose from for President, only the most important position in the USA, sorry cannot say the world because we really have taken a bakcseat worldwide, I think Poland is like better off than we are since they joined the European community.
    From a Hilary for President in 2012 suppporter!!! She'll be back and so will the 18 million people that voted for her!

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