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  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 06/11/2008 1:52:14 PM

    Defeination of gender,racist and greedom of speech as in American Constitution.If anyone not sure........barack a Harvard scholar ,He teachs American's Consitution at American leading University Of Chicago,you can ask him,whatever you wants with regards Our uncle Sam matters.

  • Posted By: olderwiser @ 06/11/2008 1:33:22 PM

    Good idea! Blend the candidates, the parties, the platforms and the voters, add ice and a little sugar, stir it all up and drink it. We'll still have the same gigantic bureaucracy operating as usual and hardly anything will be different. We just like to change the players and have someone new to blame for whatever went wrong. We don't applaud when everything goes right, because that's what is supposed to be done. That's what the salary is for. Do a good job. So, bring one of 'em on. We need a new target of derision. But vote, whatever you do.

    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 06/11/2008 1:51:21 PM

      That may be the most intelligent unbiased thing I have ever seen you post. Nothing will be different other then the people we blame. Their all politicians, and that's the bottom line.

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 06/11/2008 1:43:01 PM

    American President should be the Best Person,If Not..you're not Qualified,same goes with gender......Wait Next Election If there's One.Period

  • Posted By: toughluck @ 06/11/2008 1:28:54 PM

    I'd like to point out that this general election has just begun. Why don't we give both candidates the opportunity to offer substantial solutions to problems before we decide that neither have solutions. They haven't even had a debate yet. Did the author not watch Obama's speech on the economy the other day? The man literally said that he would be offering more substantial solutions at the end of his two week tour. I'd say there's a lot of jumping the gun going on in relation to labeling either candidate as having little to offer in terms of policy and solutions to domestic problems.

  • Posted By: chindognyc @ 06/11/2008 1:21:24 PM

    Comment: MCCAIN OBAMA
    Income Avg. tax bill Avg. tax bill
    Over $2.9M -$269,364 +$701,885
    $603K and up -$45,361 +$115,974
    $227K-$603K -$7,871 +$12
    $161K-$227K -$4,380 -$2,789
    $112K-$161K -$2,614 -$2,204
    $66K-$112K -$1,009 -$1,290
    $38K-$66K -$319 -$1,042
    $19K-$38K -$113 -$892
    Under $19K -$19 -$567

    I want people to look at what kind of savings you will get if your voting for McCain and if your voting for Obama. Take a look and you tell me who you are voting for.

    • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 06/11/2008 1:24:21 PM

      How destructive to the U.S. economy would a Barack Obama presidency be?

      An exclusive Newsmax analysis warns: There could be a very rough time ahead.

      Beneath Obama's flowery rhetoric lies a dangerous economic plan that will wreak havoc on the American economy.

      Obama plans to return to the failed policies of high taxation coupled with an expansion of government spending.

      Worse, Obama says he is absolutely committed to almost doubling the capital gains rate ??? something he will easily accomplish with a Democrat Congress.

      In the coming months ??? when investors realize that Obama will raise the cap gains rate ??? there could be a stampede of asset sales as investors rush to take their profits now to avoid Obama's doubling of the tax rates next year.

      All of these issues and more are explored in Newsmax magazine's special report "Obamanomics ??? the Coming Tax-and-Spend Nightmare," by Wall Street Journal columnist John Fund.

      This Newsmax magazine special report gives Americans the first in-depth look at the Democratic presidential candidate's likely strategies ??? and how they will affect not just the larger economy, but your personal wealth as well.

      Indeed, Obama makes no bones about his plans to go on a tax rampage. Not only would he increase the capital-gains tax rate from 15 percent to as much as 28 percent, he wants to allow the 2001 and 2003 Bush tax cuts to expire in 2010, which effectively raises taxes on Americans by tens of billions of dollars.

      He also wants to do away with the $102,000 FICA payroll tax cap, which means anyone making over $102,000 would pay an additional 7 percent in taxes on earned income.

      And the loan dividend tax rate George Bush implemented? Under President Obama it will be DOA!

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 06/11/2008 1:19:49 PM

    American must be smarter then that,never allow yourself or anyone to influence your own judgment and Destiny,without digest what is good for you.Interestingly,because it seems to me that "journalists" can be part some of the most elitist,authority-to-themselves characters.Perhaps thats the price of freedom speech of humanism pseudo.Question is,from where do they derive their gracious righteousness? Likely, it is from their own "conscience," which is hardly objective.

  • Posted By: go_hillary_go @ 06/11/2008 12:48:26 PM

    "When it comes to America's obvious domestic problems (retirement programs, immigration, energy policy) neither John McCain nor Barack Obama has offered real solutions."

    Oh, very good, Samuelson. First, you and your rediculously bias magazine spend all your time and effort ripping Hillary Clinton to shreads. Then, when your Golden Boy, Obama, clinches the nom, you're gonna start saying that neither candidates, which YOU handpicked, have what it takes? The only thing you people are good at is making yourselves look like idiots. Pat yourself on the back, BOB- you've just ensured that we're all going to Hell in a handbag.

    • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/11/2008 1:17:11 PM

      Actually, it's every form of media ripping Hills to shreds.
      She lost the biggest advantage in the history of politics

    • Posted By: chindognyc @ 06/11/2008 12:52:50 PM

      Hillary didn't have one either. Please show me one subject where Hillary showed she can fix our problem. Her and Obama sound like a broken record. At least Hillary and Obama will do there best to fix our problem. Stop with your go Hillary crap. We need to worry about the now.

  • Posted By: Rametyn @ 06/11/2008 12:39:30 PM

    Amazing.

    Only a demorcrat could sit through the aftermath of the Moninca Lewinski scandal, argue to high heaven that Bill's personal life has no bearing on his presidency, or that it shouldn't affect Hillary's campaign because its irrelavant, and then actually claim that Mcain is not fit because he cheated on his wife. How laughable. Do you people just not care how hypocritical you look, or do you not know you're doing it?

    Even lower: calling a person who cannot raise his arms above his chest because he was viciously tortured while serving in the military--SACRIFICING HIS BODY in the name of his country---a traitor. Not even demorcrats in congress taut him as anything less than a national hero. Yet, there a souless, self-serviant demigogs out there who will say anything, no matter how dispicable, if they think it will aide in theObama cause. Jeez, win an agument by debating it honestly at least. Disagree with the man's policies, but don't be so dispicable as to call someone who is physically disabled because of service to his country a traitor because you read one thing that one guy said (without even having the guts to admit that his accounts have already been discredited--BY PEOPLE IN YOUR OWN PART!

    And, in the difference between opinion and fact:

    It is a fact that Obam voted with his party 97% of the time. That is not cenrist in anyway.

    It is a fact that during his run for office, John Kerry (Uh, hello? Democrat?) even considered John Mcain as a candidate for VP on HIS OWN TICKET, because Mcain was centrist enough in his viewpoints to warrant so. This in not an opinion--that is an undeniable truth. You can spin it, or lie about it, or dilute it down. Funny how all that changes the minute he is opposing the Democatic candidate--talk about hypocritical. LOL

    Saying you are a centrist, after spending your whole carreer voting with your party, just because you think it will reach a certain demographic of votes is called: pandering. People aren't stupid. When you hold their records up to the light--FACT IS FACT--and no amount of trying to spin, twist, or flat out lie about them will change such truisms. So good luck with your efforts dear Obamanites.

    Disregarding the truth just because you want to win is as about as dispicable as calling a war hero a traitor just because you HOPE someone might be stupid enough to believe it.

    Argument without merit is why the Dems have lost so much in recent history.

    When are you going to learn that it takes a lot more than just name calling?

    People are not stupid.

    • Posted By: amendment2man @ 06/11/2008 1:15:02 PM

      well said rametyn, well said

  • Posted By: Stlmovoter @ 06/11/2008 1:10:36 PM

    This isn't an across the board statement, but I think the tone of some reporting on Sen. Obama got a lot more negative all of a sudden when he slipped his assigned reporters in order to meet with Sen. Clinton. The press will sometimes dish out coverage based on how well they feel they are treated instead of on the merits.

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 06/11/2008 1:05:02 PM

    We must respects of One's individual beliefs and intelligent,by acknowledge the co-existence of others.
    That doesn't means you've to conclude and accepts one's principle as being Right or Wrong.
    If many Republicans regards themselves conservative as being evangelicals nobody can disputes that statement but the Truth only beholds the beholder inner being as wheither,they're all really WHAT THER'RE ,not deep underbeath smells Hypocrites,Opportunists,Racist..... .
    The truth do Hurts many Republicans as we did in G.W.bush Lies.
    The Problems that Republican Party trying to project themselves being evangelicals christians,But Im Sorry,Your outcome and personality smell very fishy.

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 06/11/2008 12:56:22 PM

    Senator Obama sometimes leaves out what he believes thoughtful respecful that people should already know and understand the many issues.The way he respects American public as an adult by making complete answers that people have all the surrounding information working in their reasoning. I do believe his honest mistake is more of his wanting to believe that Americans think logically.He will need to take more time to give a more complete explantion of his positions and not assume everyone "gets it".

  • Posted By: LMAO @ 06/11/2008 11:13:05 AM

    To quote the author: "Even those who disagree with him ought to feel pride in his impending nomination because it continues America's racial reconciliation and atonement for slavery." However I struggle to understand the hullabaloo over Mr. Obama. As a black person living in America, I personally think it is a disgrace that folks rush to elevate a man who was complicit in the self-destruction of the black community. For 20 years he sat by and allowed trusting black folks to wallow in the self-defeatism dished out by Rev. Wright. This is the same defeatist thought that is echoed through the African-American community today. Where was the message of "HOPE & CHANGE"? Where was the "YES WE CAN" cry when it was needed most? Who better to transform that backward thinking group than someone unscathed by the 60s? Just think what could have been if Mr. Obama had shown a modicum of leadership (or at the very least walked away). But he did absolutely nothing! Just thinking of his non-action send chills through my bones and evokes a wellspring of sadness that will never be assuaged.



    I am even more grateful today that I was blessed with parents whose vision have long transcended race. Failing that, I and siblings could have easily been among the causalities of the missteps and missed opportunities that were there for the taking after the Civil Rights era. The selfless action by Martin Luther who paid the ultimate price is who should be lauded as being a hero "for all of us that have dreams and hope". That is, he did what was right without a single thought of the personal gains (or harm) to himself.



    Finally, I would challenge every voter this November to think well on this and ask yourself if you could with a clear conscience give this man a pass - NO I CAN'T. For we become who we are by the folks we look to as heroes.

    • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/11/2008 12:55:02 PM

      That was stupid, pasted and loaded with misinformation. Thanks.
      Everyone else should be LMAO. Idiot.

  • Posted By: haynessemperfi @ 06/11/2008 12:12:01 PM

    Great article.

    Comment:
    1) Many believe by voting for Obama they are helping to address a great political and moral wrong to Black Americans. But what about Native American Indians?
    2) This article is just one of many which proves that America's two party system must die. Adding a third or fourth party to Capital Hill balances the worst instincts of the Democrats and Republicans.

    Vote for Nader 2008
    http://www.votenader.org/
    Obama talks about change but Nader has producted it for over 20 years. Nader is someone of wealth who uses that wealth to help those most in need neither Obama or McCain can claim such a long history of service.

    • Posted By: joe_mama @ 06/11/2008 12:37:23 PM

      "Many believe by voting for Obama they are helping to address a great political and moral wrong to Black Americans"

      I read Samuelson's econ book in college. I read his econ analysis in Newsweek regularly and I respect his opinion.....on economics. I'd like to know his credentials on psychology and on sociology and how he came to this conclusion.

      It really annoys me that he would suggest that voting for Obama is a "guilt" vote.
      Why is it that Caucasions always assume that African Americans who succeed do so because of some sudden, overwhelming guilt over their past? This guilt didn't stop them from eliminating Affirmative Action....nor did it encourage them to replace Affirmative Action with need-based assistance in low-income schools (which, btw, are overwhelmingly minority--not African American---but minority). Guilt didn't help Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, or Alan Keyes (probably the most qualified off all African American candidates yet). And no, haynes, guilt hasn't done a thing for the Native Americans, who continue to get pooped on to this day. Why should it, all of a sudden, help Obama?

      I'm sure he didn't mean it, but this kind of attitude really insults African Americans (well, me, anyways) as it contradicts EVERYTHING that equal rights stands for: that is: to be judged by the content of your character and not the color of your skin.

      I don't want your pity. I don't want your guilt. I just want a fair chance at everything you (caucasions) take for granted. Whether I make it or not is up to me....not the "White Man's Burden" (historical concept...not mine).

      OK, I'll stop now.

      • Posted By: Rametyn @ 06/11/2008 12:51:00 PM

        Joe you know what else contradicts EVERYTHING equal rights stands for--voting for someone NOT because of thier content of character--but BECAUSE of the color of their skin. Funny that the only demographic that carries over 90% of the vote is the African American vote. Doesn't seem to matter much whether he is the right man for the job or not, as long as it makes history for one particaular group of our entire population. That number does not hold up with Hispanics, women, blue collar, white collar, or any of the like. Meaning in each demographic there are people who think he is, and people who think he isn't the right guy for pres--except in the African American demo. Don't you find it odd that the very people who crusade that we not make our choices based on the color of skin seem to be doing that very thing?

        What hypocrosies can we find within that?

  • Posted By: peacepatti @ 06/11/2008 12:19:29 PM

    Your article touched home about the "great conciliator" who has done anything but unite. In fact, Senator Obama???s campaign has caused a great divide in this country. He has inspired some groups and, in the process, insulted others. He has spoken some of the words that have caused disrespect between young and old, between rich and blue color workers, between blacks and whites. His advisors and supporters uttered the rest of the divisive words and, even now, his supporters arrogantly continue with that rhetoric.

    I was recently eating in a local restaurant when a table of four young male Obama supporters paid their bill, stood up, and shouted ???old people suck???. I???m not sure if they were talking about me or one generation older than me. Perhaps they were talking about the people now in their 80???s who lived through the Great Depression and then sacrificed so much during WWII: the men who went to war and their wives who worked in factories while they were gone in order to keep the country going. I wonder how much those four young people are willing to sacrifice for this country.

    Senator Obama and the rich blame the blue collar workers (???the lunch bucket crew???) and the rural for racism and lack of progress in this country. That is ironic when the rich have the power to hire and promote minorities and to set a progressive agenda. It is the rich who sit in the board rooms of the corporations that control this country and make the decisions.

    Regarding Reverend Wright and Father Pfleger, Obama???s spiritual advisors, they have managed to set race relations back, stir up anger, and insult those people, black and white, who have spent their entire lives doing what they can to help erase the injustice of prejudice.

    Millions of women have been insulted by Senator Obama???s remarks about Senator Clinton (???fangs???) and his insensitivity to women (???sweetie??? to the female journalist). In this regard, there was more than ???quiet aid received from the media.??? Many of us have been incredulous at the sexism exhibited during this campaign by the good old boys of talk TV.

    I really don't know who I will vote for at this time. The race may have developed into the lesser of two evils. When confronted with a choice like that in the past, I have voted for a 3rd party candidate. I am hoping one will appear that I want to vote for.

    • Posted By: Alvy @ 06/11/2008 12:50:41 PM

      Why would you even have peace in your user-name?
      This is just more of the same plant material. Kick Obama and say I'm not voting for Mc either. How original, idiot.
      You are old.

  • Posted By: amendment2man @ 06/11/2008 12:01:30 PM

    Hey joe: at least we can agree on one thing : they both suck

  • Posted By: joe_mama @ 06/11/2008 12:41:28 PM

    Comment: "Many believe by voting for Obama they are helping to address a great political and moral wrong to Black Americans"

    I read Samuelson's econ book in college. I read his econ analysis in Newsweek regularly and I respect his opinion.....on economics. I'd like to know his credentials on psychology and on sociology and how he came to this conclusion.

    It really annoys me that he would suggest that voting for Obama is a "guilt" vote.
    Why is it that Caucasions always assume that African Americans who succeed do so because of some sudden, overwhelming guilt over their past? This guilt didn't stop them from eliminating Affirmative Action....nor did it encourage them to replace Affirmative Action with need-based assistance in low-income schools (which, btw, are overwhelmingly minority--not African American---but minority). Guilt didn't help Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, or Alan Keyes (probably the most qualified off all African American candidates yet). And no, haynes, guilt hasn't done a thing for the Native Americans, who continue to get pooped on to this day. Why should it, all of a sudden, help Obama?

    I'm sure he didn't mean it, but this kind of attitude really insults African Americans (well, me, anyways) as it contradicts EVERYTHING that equal rights stands for: that is: to be judged by the content of your character and not the color of your skin.

    I don't want your pity. I don't want your guilt. I just want a fair chance at everything you (caucasions) take for granted. Whether I make it or not is up to me....not the "White Man's Burden" (historical concept...not mine).

    OK, I'll stop now.

    PS--sorry haynes, didn't mean to 'jack your thread

  • Posted By: chindognyc @ 06/11/2008 12:39:03 PM

    MCCAIN OBAMA
    Income Avg. tax bill Avg. tax bill
    Over $2.9M -$269,364 +$701,885
    $603K and up -$45,361 +$115,974
    $227K-$603K -$7,871 +$12
    $161K-$227K -$4,380 -$2,789
    $112K-$161K -$2,614 -$2,204
    $66K-$112K -$1,009 -$1,290
    $38K-$66K -$319 -$1,042
    $19K-$38K -$113 -$892
    Under $19K -$19 -$567

    I want people to look at what kind of savings you will get if your voting for McCain and if your voting for Obama. Take a look and you tell me who you are voting for.

  • Posted By: Jack999 @ 06/11/2008 12:38:41 PM

    Sadly,Americans Leader still being Naive and keep Dreaming about Leading the World on American Democracy of Supremacy,the World propects is Changing rapidly, we are the only country now at war,the Cold war already long Over.Our suppose War on terrorist hardly effective even after this long 6 years and made matters worst G.W.Bush used this to in-stir fears tool for his 2 term in office,Our Objective policy now definately Off-Track,Its time to Heal and Cares for those hurts at home and abroad cause of stupid war.This should be Our immediate Objectives.

    Because they are first and they became first without the extensive use of government coercion. America represents capitalism and hard work at its finest. They are hated for their towering skyscrapers and gleaming metropolises, not for their run down urban centers and ill focus on the needy at home.

    The world pleaded for America to be its police, then when America finally gave in, the world did an about face and accused them of imperialism. When America attempted to secure the peace, freedom and prosperity of people outside its borders, even when it had nothing to gain from doing so, it was chastised and berated. The world perceives America as arrogant because humans perceive those who are ahead of them, who are better than them as arrogant when they state the obvious.

    Why not, instead of hating America for its towering achievements and desire to help the rest of the world reach such heights, look at your own country and see what must be done to limit government and allow the people to lift themselves up. After all, as history has so aptly shown, this is the clearest way to prosperity, peace and freedom.
    The Western democracies and the Western worldview won the Cold War and the Soviet empire imploded because it was a complete economic failure, a tyranny and a hopelessly inhuman system. The only thing the Communist bloc managed to win was the propaganda war outside their own borders, where people had a first-hand experience of their Utopia.

    America and his natural dominance elitist philosophy in adopting and advocating its American's Democratic values for the world to follows.This is very ambitious and expensive itself,sadly been used as a major tool for any American politicians manoeuvre to be President of United States.

    For Instance China,How do they going to pressure China to accept the practice of American's Democratic principles,when it's heritage have been stretch for 3,000 years History.

    Democracy shall never be enforce prematurely because of the cultural differences.In China used to be Dynastic rules,their own democratic principles,NEVER had a process of electing their Leaders by Head Counts,but by Head Chops.


  • Posted By: Hope Hill @ 06/11/2008 12:33:43 PM

    Mr. Samuelson, congratulations!!! for a very in intelligent and interesting report.

    Hope Hill

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