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  • Posted By: Non-following sheep @ 06/13/2008 1:47:00 AM

    E-mail all your friends.... resolve to boycott BP and EXXON stations for 30 days.... and watch the prices drop.

  • Posted By: ElaPhino @ 06/13/2008 1:15:29 AM

    Its not supply thats a problem its price. Gas /Oil goes up demand decreases, but not according to Wall Street.They are creating a false scarcity of oil to drive prices higher to get not only more money, but to have people scream for more drilling when its not needed. They were denied drilling there so now create the impression of a shortage and they'll scream for you to drill and make more money. Oh our increase also makes corn prices go up too so we can nip that whole ethanol in the bud too.Interesting that oil goes up 33 cents a year whenever a Bush is in office. You would think he was an oil man or something....oh yeah. I loved their response is that they only make 8% profit. Yes on gas it may be 8% but they also supply their own oil to make that gas....and right now its the oil making record profits for them.You don't make record profits when you pay more to make your product., but hey if the actual cost to make it stays the same and the price increases...hey it sounds like profit to me.

    • Posted By: pkao88 @ 06/13/2008 1:51:45 AM

      It is 9% profit margin--that IS for the major OIL companies ... not the gas stations--gas stations make only a nickel on the gallon which is about 1.25% on a $4 a gallon gas. Comparatively speaking, the magazine publishers, tobacco, software, and shipping industries make higher profit margin (at 25%, 19%, 22% and 19% respectively) And no gas stations do now supply their own oil to make that gas ... do your research before saying these things. Remember all these big oil were losing money all of 1980s. As Milton Friedman used to say when he was alive. ... it is NEVER a 'profit' system.... it is a profit AND LOSS system. If you think big oil makes so much money, why don't you join in and buy their stocks?
      Obviously, you didn't learn economics 101 ... or you were taught by an economics teacher who was either too politically biased or too hung up on statistics to teach you what economics really is. I teach economics for a living and I am sad to see how people posting things are so economically illiterate. The most obvious question you need to answer is ... if they had such magical power to 'create a false scarcity to drive up oil prices higher ...', why did they have to wait until now?? Why did they not use that in the 1980s when they were struggling?? And oh.... when gas prices go up, demand does NOT decrease... either learn your economics or just stop giving people incorrect ideas.

      By the way, the inflation adjusted prices of gas currently are only about 20% higher than gas prices in 1950. Considering the fact that we didn't have Chinese and Indian gas demand in 1950 ... and we haven't been allowed to drilled many more oil fields since 1990--due to various government regulations -- which are too long to list...and only to serve special interest groups...coupled with the fact that we have built any new refineries since 1970s ... a 20% increase in price (inflation-adjusted) isn't such a big hike. You just got too accustomed to cheap gas ... oh wait... that was when the oil companies were losing money ... But did you see a big-oil crybaby saying that drivers were 'creating a false abundance to drive gas prices low'?? Of course not.... It's demand and supply ... but oh wait... you didn't learn that. Never mind.

  • Posted By: babycow @ 06/13/2008 1:30:21 AM

    I KNOW TIMES ARE HARD RIGHT NOW, AND THIS PART REALLY SUCKS. INSTEAD OF COMPLETELY FILLING YOUR VEHICLE FULL OF FUEL AND OR GAS, JUST PUT ENOUGH IN FOR INCASE OF AN EMERGENCY THAT WAY IF THEY TRY TO STEAL YOUR GAS AND OR FUEL THEY AREN'T GETTING VERY MUCH. IT'S SAD WE HAVE TO DO THIS.

    • Posted By: janeano1 @ 06/13/2008 1:48:44 AM

      Ok, I don't think that anyone wants to stop everyday to find gas. There has to be a better solution.

    • Posted By: jcolew @ 06/13/2008 1:46:00 AM

      then you waste more fuel, you get better mileage on the first half of your tank.

  • Posted By: HollyTerror @ 06/13/2008 1:38:00 AM

    In case you may have missed it, there is a little thing going on called, ???GOBBLE WARMING.??? It???s been further suggested that fossil fuel use is a major contributor to this ever increasing concern and threat to our lives. Most of the people around the world has come to grasp not only an understanding of this problem, but also collectively strive to reduce the pollution.

    That is excepting for the American people, who seems to reject any personal need to get involved in someone else???s problem. After all, most Americans barely consume a mere thousand gallons or so each year, certainly, in their minds, not worthy of any special going out of one???s way.

    The powers to be that drives the United States has determined, ???ENOUGH.??? From now on, what the consumers refuse to do, we shall do for them. Aim straight for the pocket book, for there is the answer....Wow, were they right. The news today reflect mass transit is now in gridlock from the over crowding.

    I???m really beginning to think our nation is without smart or reliable or effective leadership from the President, especially from the President, down to the street sweeper supervisors.

    It may be a God sent Obama showed up just in time. By-the-way, I strongly suggest we hang onto Guatanamo Bay facilities in Cuba, they???ll make a great place to keep George W. Bush and his gang.

    • Posted By: Non-following sheep @ 06/13/2008 1:42:13 AM

      Does this mean that TURKEYS are responsible?

  • Posted By: downwithfedres @ 06/13/2008 1:40:43 AM

    There is not one word about punishment for these acts.Is it time to bring back the rope?

    • Posted By: cholex @ 06/13/2008 1:45:23 AM

      You r going to suggest the gallows pole for stealing gas, hmm

  • Posted By: jcolew @ 06/13/2008 1:26:25 AM

    Are most of the people commenting on this retarded? The grammar mistakes are unreal, I couldn't comprehend half of the stuff militarylife wrote. That is why he joined the military because he could not figure how to fill out an application for the local fast food establishment.
    I agree that as a country we are lazy, but I don't think it is bothering people as much as the media is hyping. If it was a true crisis, how come Indiana Jones and Kung Fu Panda are making so much money? How is it possible that Hummers and Cadilacs are still being purchased? As a country we are living past our means, but still figure how to get past. The cost of fuel will drop when the republicans realize that there is a chance they will not be in the White House next year (they own the oil after all), then they will say, "Hey, look what WE did for the country". Just like that shitty $600 they so graciously gave back to us. That helped me pay off my school bills.
    Housing foreclosures are being hyped rediculously (for which I'm thankful, as a potential home-buyer). Yeah, its happening, but a majority of it is centralized in certain areas (again, living past their means).
    Fuel will drop, it may not be by much, but it cannot keep rising if the republicans want any chance of ever being a main party contender. Ethanol is a waste as a fuel. The world is in a food crisis and here in America, we are burning food so we can drive through the fast food window.
    I don't blame the republicans for everything, just the national debt and fuel prices. Thanks, Haliburton.
    Oh, and I am not a democrat either.

    • Posted By: militarylife @ 06/13/2008 1:33:05 AM

      wow, this post was somewhere between rude and gruel. Not to mention half of it was pointless.
      One: I'm not a man.
      two: I have a degree
      three: i joined the military to follow in my fathers footsteps after he died. It meant everything to him and I felt i could do my part to try and make this country better by using my degree here instead on the outside.
      I'm sorry you think so little of me for doing so/

      • Posted By: jcolew @ 06/13/2008 1:42:12 AM

        oh, and good job on living up to your dead father

      • Posted By: jcolew @ 06/13/2008 1:36:45 AM

        by gruel, do you mean the cereal? otherwise, i have no idea

  • Posted By: cholex @ 06/13/2008 1:25:18 AM

    Military life I live in Miami and if you ride a bicycle here they will run your ass over, and no body wants to carpool, and if you drive a small car they will run your ass off the road, and public transportation sucks, so to tell you the truth I don't care if gas comes to 10.00 bucks somehow I'll manage to get it

    • Posted By: militarylife @ 06/13/2008 1:26:47 AM

      and thats part of the problem

      • Posted By: jackaraoke @ 06/13/2008 1:42:12 AM

        Yet another part of the problem... Dis-respect... Can't you express yourself without being offensive? We all can be respectable and expressive at the same time.

  • Posted By: cholex @ 06/13/2008 1:37:29 AM

    ok am going to sleep, I learned new things how to reply and how to steal gas and how to root a million comments that have nothing to do from the origin of the subject, be a good customer and buy gas

  • Posted By: MizBeaverhousen @ 06/13/2008 1:30:35 AM

    Jcolew, You are rude AND YOU didn't spell Cadillac correctly!

    • Posted By: jcolew @ 06/13/2008 1:34:49 AM

      Sorry, i didn't look into your driveway for my spelling.

  • Posted By: EddieA @ 06/13/2008 1:34:43 AM

    A few of us are old enough to remember the oil embargo that was inflicted on the american public in the early 1970's. The major oil companies manipulated the price of gas by withholding oil from refineries in tankers anchored in international waters off our coasts. They directly controlled the supply and dramatically inflated the cost. I think our current situation is a replay of the same game. When it's all said and done, we will see an exposed and protected collusion between the major oil companies and the major oil producing nations in the middle east. I would be willing to bet that our vice president is a major player in this swindle. And when the stuff finally hits the fan, all these folks will retreat to their gated communities and retire in the glorius splendor that they stole from us. EddieA

  • Posted By: MizBeaverhousen @ 06/13/2008 1:22:15 AM

    I think our frustration is stemming from, "why are people reduced to stealing gas"

    • Posted By: MizBeaverhousen @ 06/13/2008 1:33:06 AM

      Probably both! LOL

    • Posted By: Non-following sheep @ 06/13/2008 1:28:56 AM

      Are they reduced? or just exposing their true nature?

  • Posted By: jackaraoke @ 06/13/2008 1:25:01 AM

    You know, the real problem is that most of us just sit and "make comments". Nobody "does" anything anymore. How about driving a smaller car! How about walking when you can. How about riding a bike. How about just staying at home once in a while and spend quality time with family members. Ride a bus. Car pool.
    But the problems don't just stop at the pump, or start there either. People don't do what Americans used to do. That is, stick together. Help eachother out. When was the last time you helped your neighbor out without wanting something in return... Seems to me that people only care about themselves now a days and "their rights". Selfish!
    One of you said Bush is sticking to his plan (paraphrased). Well, he is. He is concerned about America. He is a politician though. I'm certain that he has done some things he normally wouldn't, presured by "politics".
    Environmentalists are too extreme, and those who think we should do anything and everything we want to are too extreme in the opposit direction.
    Just like the "freedoms" we have, we need to manage our environment as we should manage ourselves. The real problem lies there. We have left our responsibilities. We point at everything and everyone else. We let our neighborhoods go to pot and blame the "hoodlum" as we sit and watch. All we do is hang on the net and watch trashy sitcoms and wonder why everything is a mess!!! (I don't watch the trashy stuff on T.V.)
    We can all sit here and post comments all day. What is it going to do unless we take action. Start caring for our communities, how our country is run, and, yes, stand up for what is right! Notice, I said what is right. That is what we, as individuals, know is the truth, whether we like it or not.
    Well, I guess I could go all night but, it will accomplish nothing unless I do my part. I do as much as I can. By the way, I'm not the old person you may have imagine. Just someone who believes that the old-fashion values weren't so bad or "old-fashion". Someone who would like to see a country with a people who would get it together and have common goals. I really saddens me!

    • Posted By: jcolew @ 06/13/2008 1:32:47 AM

      i agree up until the bush, then i start to agree again.

  • Posted By: jonik8667 @ 06/13/2008 1:32:26 AM

    Quit crying- it gas could be $10 gal and you will pay it. You have no problem spending $2.00 for a bottle of water- think about how much that water is at a gallon. Because we keep paying the price for the gas and don't change our ways they will continue to charge what they want.

  • Posted By: ElaPhino @ 06/13/2008 1:29:10 AM

    Nationalize US oil. Lets be Venezula.

  • Posted By: LucyLouWho @ 06/13/2008 1:19:45 AM

    I've seen a video about water fuel and even heard they invited the man responsible to show Congress now as to where it has gone from there is anyone's guess! And yes I agree with And1722 we American's have became "Crybabies" expecting everyone else to get us out of our situation. The President is an oilman and doesn't even have to pay for his own gas and I'd say none of his family has had to for years so I don't think he's going to be sympathetic to us "Common Folk"! And I damn sure don't think Obama is going to help us!! We are in for a long row to hoe for quite a few years. I am older, well not really, only 48 but I feel sorry for my grandchildren and what they can expect in their older years!! Hell, as it is now they may never get to drive a car!

  • Posted By: jackaraoke @ 06/13/2008 1:22:02 AM

    You know, the real problem is that most of us just sit and "make comments". Nobody "does" anything anymore. How about driving a smaller car! How about walking when you can. How about riding a bike. How about just staying at home once in a while and spend quality time with family members. Ride a bus. Car pool.
    But the problems don't just stop at the pump, or start there either. People don't do what Americans used to do. That is, stick together. Help eachother out. When was the last time you helped your neighbor out without wanting something in return... Seems to me that people only care about themselves now a days and "their rights". Selfish!
    One of you said Bush is sticking to his plan (paraphrased). Well, he is. He is concerned about America. He is a politician though. I'm certain that he has done some things he normally wouldn't, presured by "politics".
    Environmentalists are too extreme, and those who think we should do anything and everything we want to are too extreme in the opposit direction.
    Just like the "freedoms" we have, we need to manage our environment as we should manage ourselves. The real problem lies there. We have left our responsibilities. We point at everything and everyone else. We let our neighborhoods go to pot and blame the "hoodlum" as we sit and watch. All we do is hang on the net and watch trashy sitcoms and wonder why everything is a mess!!! (I don't watch the trashy stuff on T.V.)
    We can all sit here and post comments all day. What is it going to do unless we take action. Start caring for our communities, how our country is run, and, yes, stand up for what is right! Notice, I said what is right. That is what we, as individuals, know is the truth, whether we like it or not.
    Well, I guess I could go all night but, it will accomplish nothing unless I do my part. I do as much as I can. By the way, I'm not the old person you may have imagine. Just someone who believes that the old-fashion values weren't so bad or "old-fashion". Someone who would like to see a country with a people who would get it together and have common goals. I really saddens me!

  • Posted By: cholex @ 06/13/2008 1:17:45 AM

    I thought this was about stealing gas

    • Posted By: militarylife @ 06/13/2008 1:20:51 AM

      yeah i think it got off that subject awhile ago......in fact i don't know if it ever was on the topic of stealing gas. :)

  • Posted By: militarylife @ 06/13/2008 1:17:25 AM

    this isn't as cut and dry as people try to make it. I take the bus to work, i try to carpool when I can. i ride my bike to most places. and when i have to drive I drive a car that gets good gas mileage.
    i don't have a solution and never claimed to. What I said was that we need to take some of the blame on to ourselves and admit that if we weren't so depent on crude oil we wouldn't be here.

  • Posted By: MizBeaverhousen @ 06/13/2008 1:04:11 AM

    Well, if we ever need hot air, we'll know where there is an abundant supply cholex!

    • Posted By: MizBeaverhousen @ 06/13/2008 1:14:48 AM

      I did not use the foul and uncalled for language, it was simply a rebuttal...

    • Posted By: militarylife @ 06/13/2008 1:07:41 AM

      seriously was that necessary?
      i think we can all talk about this without having to be rude.
      Or at least i would like to think so.

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