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  • Posted By: freeda peeples @ 06/17/2008 12:25:46 PM

    She doesn't speak for me and I'm not an emotional nutbar and neither are the many others who are so fed up w/the DNC that they are willing to do something outrageous to get their attention. Too bad for all of us.

    • Posted By: hotstuff @ 06/17/2008 5:18:19 PM

      " What Senator Obama and I share
      is so much greater than our differences;
      and no matter who wins this nomination,
      I will do everything I can to bring us together
      and move forward!"
      Hillary Clinton

      • Posted By: dreffein @ 06/17/2008 7:07:57 PM

        Hotstuff - can you do anything but parrot Senator Clinton's words? She lost and is expected to say these things. What can you say in support of your candidate?

        • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/18/2008 2:22:20 PM

          So now, even you, a Hillary supporter, is calling her a LIAR, HA! we KNEW IT! Even her "supporters" don't believe in her.

        • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 06/17/2008 11:57:12 PM

          Not Republican.

  • Posted By: Pittsburgh @ 06/17/2008 3:23:57 PM

    RON PAUL. I had forgotten all about him. My mom and husband liked him way back. She said you can still write him in on the ballot. Anyway I just don't want more of the same---more of what we have now--no one can argue the fadt that we need help---I respect McCain's service, but I just know nothing will change in Washington if he is elected.

    • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/18/2008 2:18:37 PM

      STOP BEING PC ABOUT MCCAIN, HE SERVED 20HRS AND WAS SHOT DOWN! THEN DID OVER 30 PROPAGANDA FILMS FOR THE VC AND HAS TURNED HIS BACK ON OUR SONS AND DAUGHTERS FIGHTING THESE WARS BY REFUSING TO SUPPORT S.22 aka THE NEW GI BILL.
      MCCAIN IS AN A$$HOLE.

  • Posted By: ndrock @ 06/17/2008 5:02:46 PM

    Sorry don't agree with you. Without Clinton I am voting for McCain, not because of the reason you give, but because of the reasons you didn't give. Again when it comes to selection, you have selected a few choice ideas, and worn out facts. You don't speak for me!!

    • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/18/2008 2:09:43 PM

      So you would kill 75,000 more americans by voting for McCain?

      Look we get it, you can't just openly say the "N" word and it's not cool to hate him for being black, plus you're just too chicken sh!t to admit anyway, So what you have done is, you found something that at least 28% of Americans will accept, you call him "Muslim", that is you're substitute word for the "N" word. With ALL of the FACTS showing EVERYBODY Obama is NOT "Muslim", after months of hearing about his 20yr involvement with a CHRISTIAN church and it's angry pastor, you 13% still hate him for being "Muslim" (we know why you really hate him).
      Funny, but that's the only thing that makes sense, I mean do you still think the world is flat?

      He is NOT muslim, he IS BLACK, and THAT is why you hate, no other reason.

      As far as the "terrorist" connection, Ayers? lmao, was never convicted of ANYTHING, and the ones who were convicted were pardoned by....OMG! Bill Clinton...

      So how ever you want to try and paint him, your (all of you) issue with Obama is not Muslim, terrorist, gay, what ever else you want to try to "cling" to...it's the he is BLACK and you can't admit that that is your reason, to me, that's REAL CHANGE because there was a time in this country when you would have just said it, you were the majority, now you are not, and you are too afraid to say it, and that makes you angry...you need a hug ;)

  • Posted By: LMAO @ 06/17/2008 6:53:49 PM

    I struggle to understand the hullabaloo over Mr. Obama! As a black person living in America , I personally think it is a disgrace that folks rush to elevate a man who was complicit in the self-destruction of the black community. For 20 years he sat by and allowed trusting black folks to wallow in the self-defeatism dished out by Rev. Wright. This is the same defeatist thought that is echoed through the African-American community today. Where was the message of "HOPE & CHANGE"? Where was the "YES WE CAN" cry when it was needed most? Who better to transform that backward thinking group than someone unscathed by the 60s? Just think what could have been if Mr. Obama had shown a modicum of leadership (or at the very least walked away). But he did absolutely nothing! Just thinking of his non-action send chills through my bones and evokes a wellspring of sadness that will never be assuaged.
    I am even more grateful today that I was blessed with parents whose vision have long transcended race. Failing that, I and my siblings could have easily been among the causalities of the missteps and missed opportunities that were there for the taking after the Civil Rights era. The selfless action by Martin Luther who paid the ultimate price is who should be lauded as being a hero "for all of us that have dreams and hope". That is, he did what was right without a single thought of the personal gains (or harm) to himself.

    Finally, I would challenge every voter this November to think well on this and ask yourself if you could with a clear conscience give this man a pass. For we become who we are by the folks we look to as heroes

    • Posted By: anna43019@yahoo.com @ 06/17/2008 9:25:13 PM

      Your comments were right on..I asked my 50 year old friend why she voted for Obama and her only answer was the he believes in "change". Wow, I was just stunned by her reply and think that people who dont' follow politics have no idea what Obama really stands for.

      • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/18/2008 2:03:22 PM

        There are so many good things to talk about here. First off, people want CHANGE, not "MORE WAR YEARS". Second if and when they deside to find out what Obama's positions are, they will not have flipped or flopped, they are what they have always been (www.barackobama.com).
        Unlike McCain, I heard a 3 minute montage of McCain V. McCain, spanning the last 8yrs, and even the 6 mos, 5 days, 10 minutes, 36 seconds...you get it.

        There wil be change, it will be good for all, smile and enjoy. So many are excited, so many are voting, we all know where this is going and it is NOT into Iran for a 3rd war, especially since the first 2 are not yet to a "Mission Accomplished" status.

    • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/18/2008 1:56:28 PM

      Look we get it, you can't just openly say the "N" word and it's not cool to hate him for being black, plus you're just too chicken sh!t to admit anyway, So what you have done is, you found something that at least 28% of Americans will accept, you call him "Muslim", that is you're substitute word for the "N" word. With ALL of the FACTS showing EVERYBODY Obama is NOT "Muslim", after months of hearing about his 20yr involvement with a CHRISTIAN church and it's angry pastor, you 13% still hate him for being "Muslim" (we know why you really hate him).
      Funny, but that's the only thing that makes sense, I mean do you still think the world is flat?

      He is NOT muslim, he IS BLACK, and THAT is why you hate, no other reason.

      As far as the "terrorist" connection, Ayers? lmao, was never convicted of ANYTHING, and the ones who were convicted were pardoned by....OMG! Bill Clinton...

      So how ever you want to try and paint him, your (all of you) issue with Obama is not Muslim, terrorist, gay, what ever else you want to try to "cling" to...it's the he is BLACK and you can't admit that that is your reason, to me, that's REAL CHANGE because there was a time in this country when you would have just said it, you were the majority, now you are not, and you are too afraid to say it, and that makes you angry...you need a hug ;)

  • Posted By: James Wittmeyer @ 06/18/2008 12:38:39 PM

    Unfortunately the senator's mother has passed on or she might well return the favor by delivering a lecture of her own.

  • Posted By: MaureenaRenner @ 06/18/2008 9:48:00 AM

    Some of the comments to this piece only prove its points. Let us not miss the curative message to all Democrats.

  • Posted By: larry.smith001@comcast.net @ 06/18/2008 8:37:06 AM

    Some see their cup as half full and some see their cup as half empty.

  • Posted By: ayoss58 @ 06/17/2008 2:06:37 AM

    Its better to win or lose with your head high than to stoop for votes of racists like harriet and those on these blog.
    Common, didn't we just beat and busted their qween without these women support?. What's the big deal about these soccer moms???.
    We should be talking about the Hispanic votes and the rgistration of new young voters and black voters accross the country not these security moms!!!.
    Let's talk of great news not yesterday news(soccer moms and Hillary).
    Al Gore, a true World leader and the real democratic leader today endorsed Barack Obama. He has signaled that the democratic party is united behind Barack now and going forward!!!.
    We also have Patti back and we hope she will proved Hillary a heartless and selfish person by helping Obama solidify the Hispanic vote!!!!.
    Patti was unfairly singled out and dished by the Clintons after using her to win California, Nevada and Texas.The one thing we supporters want is payback bigtime!!!.

    • Posted By: Core Democrat in Texas @ 06/17/2008 1:42:55 PM

      I'll be pulling with you for Obama to lose with his nose, I mean head, held high.

      • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 06/18/2008 3:32:22 AM

        Me thinks you resent Sen. Obama's innate dignity.

  • Posted By: SherriH @ 06/16/2008 5:54:49 PM

    The very good news is that everything you are asking of Barack Obama he already does. He is respectful of women and he is fighting to make the lives of women better. He has addressed the wage disparity issue on many occasions, he supports reproductive choice, he has a plan to end a horrific war, and he has a health care plan that will provide insurance coverage to all Americans. He cosponsored the Violence Against Women Act, which was signed into law. He cosponsored Dru's Law which creates a nationwide sex offender database and requires greater monitoring of sex offenders upon their release from prison. Senator Obama introduced the Lead-Free Toys Act to require the Consumer Product Safety Commission to ban any children's product containing lead. In March 2008, the Senate passed a bill banning lead in all children's products - a ban that is similar to Senator Obama's proposal.

    The primary campaign was mean spirited on many levels. I am a 47 year old, professional, white woman. I supported Senator Obama from the beginning of this ride after giving much consideration to both Clinton and Obama. I got myself elected as a delegate at my caucus, and then had to listen to the Clinton campaign talk about how the caucus voters "just don't count." It was extremely disappointing to hear this kind of banter.

    Obama's approach fit mine better, it took nothing away from Hillary Clinton's incredible contribution to our country. It took nothing away from those who decided to support her for many great reasons.

    I have been accused of being a traitor to my gender, not believing in equal rights, and I have been bombarded by some of the meanest emails, filled with vial lies about Senator Obama's patriotism, religion, and indeed race, that I could ever imagine. The emails have attacked him, his wife, his kids, and any one supporting him.

    He should not have made the "sweetie" comment. I will agree with that.

    He does not underestimate women. He credits his mother and grandmother with so very much. Both of his books are very enlightening regarding nearly every aspect of his life. His sister in Hawaii has a PhD. His wife is a graduate of Princeton and Harvard (Law degree). His mother was an anthropologist who traveled the world. His maternal grandmother was a vice president of a bank (when banking was indeed a man's world). Barack Obama is surrounded by strong, accomplished, fantastic women. That says a lot to me.

    Welcome aboard Anna. I understand the pull to have a woman in the White House. I also understand the pull to have Barack Obama in the White House. Hold him to his standards. I'm willing to say he will live up to the highest expectations you can throw at him and he will support the dreams and aspirations of all of America's daughters.

    • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 06/18/2008 3:24:17 AM

      Excellent post. The reporter says she wasn't offended by Sen. Obama's "Just a minute, sweetie." More to the point, Sen. Obama was not in a 'scrum' and she had no business yelling her question to him.
      Very rude. But he chose to casually respond in a friendly tone when he coujld have ignored her.
      Self-confident women aren't so easily offended. Much ado about nothing.

    • Posted By: PhDiva @ 06/16/2008 11:02:34 PM

      Thanks for all of the information about the women in Obama's life. This is more evidence that Anna Q. didn't do any research whatsoever before writing this article.

    • Posted By: nicsea @ 06/16/2008 6:08:47 PM

      Beautifully written.

  • Posted By: think4yourself @ 06/16/2008 4:01:27 PM

    Ms. Quidlen got it wrong. Its not Obama that we're angry with. Its his supporters. His supporters are the ones who are going to lose this race for him. The level of disrespect they have for not only McCain supporters but for Hillary's is like nothing I've ever seen. Its such a "Blinding, God-like" worship for him clinging to every word whether true or false and looking down on everyon else who differs in them in the slightest. I've never seen that before...oh, no I have. It's the same way that Bush supporters acted when he was running. Dont you guys find that scary???? I know two wrongs makes you even but there is a danger here. You are not looking at him. You're just looking at his ideas (Which were stolen from Hillary) I know you dont want to believe that but look at the past debates that they were in. When Hillary was asked questions and she was always asked first) she would have detailed information and agenda of what she wanted to do because she had to be prepared. Obama would just say "go to my website" and that was it. The press didnt want to turn up the heat on him b/c they didnt want to come accross as racist. But in the later debates he changed from referring people to his website to saying " I agree with Hillary" ???????!!!!!! WHAT!!!!!! And the press never jumped on him for that SNL did a parady proving it to be true. This is why we are MAD AND STILL ARE. Finally what Obama supporters think is that we will vote for him out of fear of no choice but the truth is. WE LOST OUR CHOICE and with the continue disrespect we should just sit this one out, or go on vacation. We're use to being not wanted and overlooked so just forget about. BOTH OF YOU.

    • Posted By: nicsea @ 06/16/2008 4:19:12 PM

      Yes, a number of Clinton and Obama supporters have been disrespectful; but, to choose a candidate based on what his/her supporters have said does a disservice to the extraordinary race both candidates have run. Ignore the supporters and focus on the issues you hold dearest.

      • Posted By: think4yourself @ 06/16/2008 4:38:41 PM

        No, not Hillary supporters. We dont act hatefully, we REACT hatefully. After 40 years of service to a party and to have delgates taken from her???? And the DNC backed HIM up???? Just wait until you work for a number of years and watch some Hot shot breeze by you and take your spot and then you'll see.
        Its clear, neither one cares, neither one's telling the truth. Only a woman cared enough to even think of universal healthcare only a woman would say "If HIV was a white woman's disese then the nation would care" she didnt have to say that but she did. That's why....thats why.

        • Posted By: nicsea @ 06/16/2008 4:55:39 PM

          So, all Clinton supporters have been respectful and all Obama supporters have been disrespectful? That seems a bit biased.

          Your comment presupposes that the presidency was Hillary Clinton's for the taking. It was not. Barack Obama didn't "take" Clinton's spot; but, rather, he earned it--amassing the most delegates, superdelegates and states won.
          respective proposals to the





          ButInitially, Florida and Michigan were stripped of their delegates. How then could delegates be taken from Clinton?

          • Posted By: citron16 @ 06/16/2008 7:00:36 PM

            The votes and delagates should never have been taken away, the people who voted did not change the date!! In 2000 election the democrats insisted every vote must be counted. Now the DNC decided the peoples votes should not count. What they should have done is set a new date for voting in Florida and Michigan and count every vote, Then and only then would this election have been fair!!!

            • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 06/18/2008 3:04:12 AM

              Sen. Clinton and Sen. Obama both agreed to the rules. End of story.

            • Posted By: hotstuff @ 06/16/2008 7:56:14 PM

              Absolute nonsense!
              And repeating the same nonsense again and again doesn´t make it better!
              We have better things to do right now.
              Like whip McCain!

              • Posted By: citron16 @ 06/16/2008 11:16:27 PM

                Beating Obama in November is more like it!!!!

                • Posted By: hotstuff @ 06/17/2008 4:35:40 PM

                  citron is delusional!

        • Posted By: citron16 @ 06/16/2008 11:14:55 PM

          I agree!!!

        • Posted By: hotstuff @ 06/16/2008 7:53:41 PM

          Nonsense!

        • Posted By: citron16 @ 06/16/2008 5:16:24 PM

          I agree !!!!

    • Posted By: pramono @ 06/16/2008 5:50:49 PM

      You are very naive if you thinnk that this is BOBAMA supporters.

      Itt is orchestrated by BOBAMA camp;aign (axelrod, soros, kennedy etc...), they are marxists and don't value women at all. Observe the state of Russian women and you can understand from were BOBAMA comes and were he wants to take us.


      Vote for McCain he is the best substitute for HRC.

    • Posted By: mgw@abmac.com @ 06/16/2008 4:18:58 PM

      I watched every debate and I disagree with you because in what I saw over many debates, both Hillary and Obama were well informed on the topics raised. And the time he agreed with Hillary is more an example of him being gracious than copying her platform. There's not a whole lot to distinguish one Dem candidate from another, when they are basically promoting the party platform. Some details differ but the goals are the same.

      So basically, you feel Hillary was slighted by the press and the attitude of some of his supporters, and therefore, you're ready to completely go against the platform and spite him out of a spirit of being vindictive, right?

  • Posted By: Core Democrat in Texas @ 06/16/2008 1:32:21 PM

    Sucking up to women will not alter the fact that Obama is not qualfied to be president.
    Nor does it alter the fact that the DNC and the media attacked Hillary and did all they could to ensure Obama's nomination; that did not sit well with some people who prefer to think and choose for themselves.

    • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 06/18/2008 2:55:46 AM

      Sen. Obama hasn't and won't have to 'suck' up. Curb the crassness, Tex..

    • Posted By: mgw@abmac.com @ 06/16/2008 2:45:57 PM

      But you are not thinking for yourself. You are repeating the same erroneous facts concerning Obama's experience or electability, as well as some type of "PLOT" for the Lakers (Obama) to win the championship by instructing the refs (DNC) to make bad calls againts the Celtics (Hillary). It should also be noted that as I read through this forum, the only type of opinion you can offer in most cases, is one of "I agree". Again, another example of not thinking for yourself based on facts and offering your own opinion, but instead, being led around by the opinions of others, factually correct or not.

      For all the cultural bias, racism, associations that have been laid at Obama's feet, and he still won, tells me that Hillary (with Bill's help) lost this race on her own. It wasn't taken from her.

      • Posted By: Core Democrat in Texas @ 06/16/2008 3:41:28 PM

        I'm about 99% certain I know far more about Obama than you do.
        He won the nomination by playing on emotions and avoiding issues; he won based on personality not issues; and he won because he was promoted by the media and assisted by the DNC. Anyone who has not given into this collective messiah mentality can see that easily if they watch or read a little news and have an IQ a little above average.
        But even aside from the personality cult mentality, if you read about his time in the state leg, it's clearly apparent that he had no experierce relevant to federal laws, running the federal government, or foreign policy.
        Also, anyone who is interested enough to do just a little research --- (on his activities with respect to lessening any reporting requirements for nuclear spills, his involvement with Exelon and their executives and David Axelrod, the energy plan for the future in which Exelon was involved, and Obama's full "energy plan", for which there's a link from his website) ---- anyone who reads that with half an open mind will see how obvious it is that he's in the pocket of the nuclear industry.

        • Posted By: tracyruns262@netscape.net @ 06/16/2008 4:25:17 PM

          Obama was practically carried by the Media as well as Democratic leadership.....They touted him as the Messiah and gushed over him like a bunch of schoolgirls with a crush!

          • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 06/18/2008 12:25:59 AM

            Well, you should give some credit to the millions who also voted for him.

        • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 06/16/2008 7:11:38 PM

          You're about 99% certain - and you're about 99% wrong.

          • Posted By: Core Democrat in Texas @ 06/17/2008 2:28:07 PM

            uh huh, I'm right -- I don't post it until I do a lot of research.

            • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 06/18/2008 12:24:58 AM

              Your opinion is not fact.

        • Posted By: mystic88 @ 06/16/2008 11:18:38 PM

          As opposed to the pockets of Big Oil?

          • Posted By: Core Democrat in Texas @ 06/17/2008 2:25:54 PM

            No, those are not "opposed" pockets. Look at the list of people who met with Cheney to come up with an energy plan for the future. The oil industry and the nuclear industry are intertwined in terms of corporate ownership, and they support the same energy "plan" -- fed government financial support for building new nuclear reactors, expediting federal approval for building dozens of new nuclear plants (Exeleon has about 30 permits pending), and circuventing the issue of safe storage of nuclear waste by buidling "interim" storage units in the western states.
            By the way, this is also Obama's energy plan (with a lot of pretty words added in). You can download it from a link from his website (that is until they take it down --- which I predict will happen as soon as the media starts looking at his nuclear connections).

        • Posted By: mgw@abmac.com @ 06/16/2008 4:40:03 PM

          Enter Your CommentI don't subscribe to the idea of cults or messiahs. That's a nasty little generalization on your part. I also don't know how you can state with statistical accuracy that you are more knowledgable on any topic than I am. You don't know me. Obama has methology for working with others that I admire. He is a lawyer. Passing the bar should state a lot about one's knowledge of the law. And he has displayed leadership qualities and organization in his campaign that the other candidates could not touch. YES, I want this man in the Oval Office!

  • Posted By: digitalvoice @ 06/15/2008 1:29:09 AM

    To those who choose not to vote democrat I say that they are boycotting their future and their own values when they choose to vote other than for the Democratic candidate.

    That???s exactly how republicans are ahead of us: they have the discipline to vote for their candidate, regardless.

    I guess that after all we are not who we say we are when we choose to vote against our own principles, and why? Because Obama is a male? Why else I ask, what else could it possibly be?

    Give me a break! Grow up. Live up to your belief and not up to your prejudice.

    • Posted By: dreffein @ 06/15/2008 10:12:26 AM

      Digitalvoice - I think one of the items that many are assuming is that women who supported HRC, are boycotting the Democratic party. What I will be boycotting is the presidential portion of the ticket - not the Congressional seats. Personally, I'm not voting for McCain, I'm writing in Hillary and will vote Democratic for the balance of the ballot. Most agree that the Democrats will gain enough seats to have an almost veto proof majority (unlike today). So, I can make my point (write in HRC) and yet have the Democratic agenda pursued in Congress. I think it's a win-win for me and does no more damage to the Democratic party than they have already inflicted upon themselves.

      • Posted By: Core Democrat in Texas @ 06/17/2008 5:42:40 PM

        You are right. I agree about the pres vote vs votes for senators and congressmen. I think Dems will have a veto proof Senate, and and an even greater lead in the House.
        So if the Dems have the backbone, they can end the war and do most anything else. They do not need Obama.

        • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 06/18/2008 2:47:20 AM

          All the top-ranking Dems who went with Sen. Obama, why or why didn't they first consult you? No accounting for their stupidity.

      • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/15/2008 1:33:11 PM

        The sewer flows ahead of me, but it is still beneath me, get it? BTW the repugs are not ahead, many have left the "dark side" and seen the light. As for writting HillaBush in, go for it, that is the same as voting Republican and you only show a "women's" inability to seperate emotion from logic, if she was "entitled" she would have won. Unfortunately HillaBush has proven herself to be just one step left of Bush/McCain, right there with Judas Lieberman. Thats what stopped her, nothing esle you all have come up with in in your poor broken hearts, not FL, not MI, not the media, JUST HILL, THAT's ALL, GET OVER IT! Maybe she has learned, we'll see, you CLEARLY HAVE NOT!!!

        • Posted By: dreffein @ 06/15/2008 2:35:03 PM

          Welcome back Harley - sure have missed your angry tone and truly insightful comments. LOL.

          • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/15/2008 6:26:50 PM

            Should'nt it be "girlcotting"? Chics unite! Burn a Bra! Pout as hard as you can! Chicky power!
            or simply put...WWWAAAAAAAHHHHH!

            • Posted By: snowleopard @ 06/16/2008 11:47:27 AM

              You're not amusing! And why don't you learn how to spell?

              • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/16/2008 1:40:48 PM

                Oh honey, is that you're best response? No response to why Hill lost it, are you one of those "it was taken from her" types? If you step back and just logically look at the FACTS and happenings, you'll realize as I did what Hillary TRULY stood for, FYI I was a Hillary supporter when it all started, then I got to know her.

                • Posted By: catspaw @ 06/17/2008 4:37:04 PM

                  Some of us can't burn our bras, they hang to low!

      • Posted By: willowbuffyslayer @ 06/16/2008 1:52:42 PM

        I am a woman and very irritated by the people that will enter Hillary's name instead of voting for the candidate that will help women's movements. McCain, who is pro-life, will take our rights away. Writing in his name is the same as voting for him. Why would you do that? Do you want us women to suffer again? I'm appalled and can't help but think that you are acting by emotions and not logic. I think what sickens me most of all is that McCain will keep our troops in Iraq for at least another 4 years if not longer. What about the soldiers? You know there are female soldiers there too!!!! I can't believe that people will vote to keep our men and women in harm's way because a woman didn't get the nomination. That's people's lives. This isn't a game!!!!! Do me a favor and stop voting altogether. You obviously only care about a select group of people. It makes me physically ill to listen to people like you.

        • Posted By: dreffein @ 06/16/2008 2:38:01 PM

          Willowbuffyslayer - by your name, I would guess you're pretty young. So let me explain a few things from my perspective.
          My entire life I've fought to ensure that women were given equal opportunity. And while we've made strides, there is obviously a long way to go - I mean Don Imus gets fired for his "nappy-headed hos" comment (and I agree he should have been fired) and yet people in the media still feel free to talk about Hillary Clinton as an "it", monster, liar, pimped her daughter, should be taken to the shed and only one person come out, etc......Women are still not accorded the same respect as men. There are many ways to respond to this. You think voting for Obama addresses it - I don't. I think it's a vote for the status quo, taking our vote for granted. That's why I'm writing in Hillary Clinton. I may be the only person in the country that will do this in which case my point will be lost - but if others join in and it changes the course of the election, then maybe we'll accomplish a lot more than just electing another Democratic.

          Secondly, overwhelming evidence is emerging that the Dems will pick up many seats in Congress - probably a veto-proof majority. So, even if McCain is elected, big deal - the Dems will control the agenda.

          Finally, the American people and a REAL Democratic majority in Congress are not going to let this war go on indefinitely. Regardless of who wins, we'll be getting out. McCain just won't acknowledge the obvious (which is if he wins, he'll be impotent anyway - take this last sentence any way you want:-)).

          • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 06/16/2008 10:49:09 PM

            Hillary's sense of entitlement, her mistaken belief that the Clinton 'machine' could not be beaten, her miscalculation that her nomination would be in the bag by Super Tuesday, her campaign's financial problems, her stupid remarks, i.e. sniperfire, RFK being assassinated in June, threatening that she'd 'obliterate' Iran, proved to millions of voters (and superdelegates) that she's not ready for prime time. Her husband's and Geraldine Ferrarro's smartass comments didn't help her. Hillary may be smart with the very best of intentions. However, Sen. Obama is smarter and has the perfect temperament to be president. He's dignified and calm under pressure,

          • Posted By: mystic88 @ 06/16/2008 10:43:27 PM

            Poor, bitter, dreffein. I suggest you stay home on election day and really make your point! Kind of like the kid who takes his ball and runs home because things didn't go his way.

  • Posted By: Otto-the-wise @ 06/14/2008 5:21:55 PM

    Being a person of color is an inescapable burden in our culture. Of course Obama is sensitive to women's issues and civil rights in general. Compare McCain on women's issues:
    McCain voted against raising the minimum wage and expansion of a federal children's health insurance program.
    The waste of our national resources on the "permanent campaign" war is the 'appeal' of McCain.
    We see teachers being laid off because we cannot afford the foreign war and to pay for our own country.
    Luckily, the Iraqi's just rejected our demand to allow US to build additional bases in Iraq.

    • Posted By: freeda peeples @ 06/17/2008 12:32:00 PM

      If Senator Obama is sensitive to women's issues and civil rights in general, where was he (and the DNC, Dean, Pelosi, Obama's supporters) when the nasty, sexist remarks were everywhere in the media and on blogs. Some of the nastiest came from his supporters. Now after he's clinched the nomination he, Dean and others are suddenly outraged at the sexual inuendo. You see it's safe now that the race is over . When standing on principle would have made a difference they kept their mouths shut. It's too late now for some of us. Silence is the voice of complicity.

      • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 06/18/2008 2:41:11 AM

        What sexist remarks are you referring to? I didn't hear them. Who said them and when?

      • Posted By: catspaw @ 06/17/2008 3:42:27 PM

        I felt some of the nastiest come from people who did not care about where our country is heading, not from us who support the people who do care.

  • Posted By: love234america @ 06/14/2008 5:08:18 PM

    well, this is one woman who voted for HRC who will never in a million years vote for this liar Obama. By the way, McCain is not a right wing Republican. You should also state that Obama is a radical ultra left wing tax, tax, tax, tax, tax individual who will send this nation to ruins as did leaders of France.

    • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 06/18/2008 2:38:10 AM

      France is hardly in ruins.

    • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/14/2008 5:22:13 PM

      "TAX TAX TAX"...Have you been watching FOX noise? He will only tax the very wealthiest in America, those under 250k will receive tax breaks. Sean Hannity is a moron, come on mam. Oh BTW is has been the very policies that McCain wants to continue that have DESTROYED THIS COUNTRY. GOERGE BUSH is not only responsible for the deaths of THOUSANDS of AMERICANS but has DESTROYED THE COUNTRIES ECONOMY BY SPENDING 12billion a month for his "WAR FOR OIL"(john mccain 05/03/08).

      So be bitter and mis guided, and fall into that 18 to 20% of this country who seem to think all is well, diluted sheep who fear anything brown, my heart breaks for you. But we will pull together to try and help those like you and the rest of us to, to get this country back to the Greatness it used to stand for.

      we don't need your vote mam, we'll handle it from here on out, you want to vote for Mccain and KILL MORE OFOUR CHILDREN FOR OIL, if that helps you sleep at night, god forgive you.

      • Posted By: mystic88 @ 06/16/2008 10:31:23 PM

        I agree H-D! Not only should George Bush be impeached, he should be brought up on war crimes and crimes against humanity!

    • Posted By: Otto-the-wise @ 06/14/2008 5:25:41 PM

      Some also argue that contrary to Mr. McCain???s assertions, the Democrat???s proposals, if enacted, would actually reduce taxes for the middle class ??? the voters both candidates see as the key to victory.

      In a study of the candidates??? plans made public Wednesday, the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center concluded that in contrast to Mr. McCain, ???Senator Obama offers much larger tax breaks to low- and middle-income taxpayers and would increase taxes on high-income taxpayers.???

      The study said, ???The largest tax cuts, as a share of income, would go to those at the bottom of the income distribution,??? whereas ???Senator McCain???s tax cuts would primarily benefit those with very high incomes.

    • Posted By: Otto-the-wise @ 06/14/2008 5:24:06 PM

      You are making a generalization, 'liar' McCain is a serial adulterer. What specifics can you speak of?
      You also throw around some labels, with no examples. And your tax claim is false. Obama will actually lower taxes on most people and eliminate all income tax for 10 million people.

  • Posted By: Rev-in @ 06/17/2008 10:48:01 PM

    This is for LMAO, I applaud your vision and fairness in thought...I too can't feel comfortable voting for someone who would have played audience to that Church for 20 years...you are right, that was a slam at the progress that has been made for any African American ...a lot of that message has to have been instilled in Obama's thought process as well as his Children...there is a lot to be weighed before November...

    • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 06/18/2008 2:10:18 AM

      Have you checked out all sermons in all churches in America over the past 20 years?
      The purpose of a sermon is to provoke thought, not agreement.

      Rev. Wright is a highly-educated pastor who's also well-respected in theological circles. Is it fair to blame Rev. Wright for America's systemic racism?

  • Posted By: ecg3817 @ 06/16/2008 11:49:58 PM

    Obama owes Hillary Clinton nothing...he received more elected delegates than she did. Bill and Hillary Clinton had a turn in the White House. Based on her, they governed as a team. Clinton spent 8 years in the White House signing bills into laws that cheated hard working Americans out of jobs and their homes...Please... she is the old Washington that we need to get rid of. She trashed her campaign and is debt for millions of dollars that she wants Obama to payoff. She is not entitled...she brings nothing to the table but Bill Clinton and he will not un-ring the bell. Hillary Clinton failed...failed badly...and made women look bad all along the way...Now are we also suppose to change the rules and disregard the delegate count because Hillary Clinton is in the race...I don't think so...you better start thinking about your families and your own lives...and stop thinking about and crying over Hillary Clinton.

    McCain is anti-women...he has never had the interest of women as a priority...not even when he dumped his sick and disabled 1st wife...but I am sure that the Hillary Clinton supporters think that he will stand up for them when he did not stand with his 1st wife..

    The Wife U.S. Republican John McCain Callously Left Behind

    By Sharon Churcher
    Last updated at 1:45 AM on 08th June 2008

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html

    Please also consider the Rush Limbaugh Chaos Plan....Republicans voted for Hillary Clinton as planned...THEY HAVE NO INTENTIONS OF VOTING FOR HER IN NOVEMBER... so the popular vote count that she got contents hundreds of thousands of Republican votes focused on positioning her to run against McCain...THE HILLARY CLINTON POPULAR VOTE IS POLLUTED....BY REPUBLICANS THAT BROKE AN ELECTION LAW.

    Popular Vote Math
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

    My Math Beats Up Clinton Math.
    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/1/16747/37393/979/526838

    SHE FAILED...SHE FAILED BADLY.....

    • Posted By: Core Democrat in Texas @ 06/17/2008 1:51:00 PM

      I disagree with everything you've said, except for one point: I also do not want Hillary to be vp to Obama.

      • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 06/18/2008 1:57:14 AM

        If you want McCain to win, what's your interest in Obama's choice for VP?

      • Posted By: hotstuff @ 06/17/2008 5:01:14 PM

        " What Senator Obama and I share
        is so much greater than our differences;
        and no matter who wins this nomination,
        I will do everything I can to bring us together
        and move forward!"
        Hillary Clinton

    • Posted By: NewHamster @ 06/17/2008 12:17:50 AM

      Why the Hillary hate and exageration? No, he doesn't owe HER anything, but he owes the people who voted for her something. They are half the Democratic party, after all. When Bush 2 "won" in 2000 after the closest race in history, it was very unbecoming of him to act as if he had a mandate and ignore the Gore voters. That's how I'll feel about Obama not choosing Hillary. Why not reach over to the whole half of the party that did not vote for him? Bill Clinton can help him. He was a great President. Hillary didn't fail badly; she did magnificently in a very close primary WHERE NEITHER OF THEM WON ENOUGH ELECTED DELEGATES!! Yes, he won more, but not enough. Hey, I don't hate Obama, but if he wants to show me that he cares about getting my vote, that he cares about the half of the party that voted for another historical candidate, he'll choose her. And if she were the nominee, I would want her to choose him.

    • Posted By: marksgershenson @ 06/17/2008 12:04:09 AM

      Keep bringing up those websites...evidence of what is said is way better than speculation or hearsay.... great job on the research! :-) the power of the pen is fantastic.....

  • Posted By: citron16 @ 06/16/2008 8:16:32 PM

    thebm4life: Obama is unelectable!!!!!!!

    • Posted By: marksgershenson @ 06/16/2008 8:22:15 PM

      why?

      • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/16/2008 8:32:02 PM

        Cause that's FOX NOISE and HillaRove said...that's why.

        Let's see ran for seneate, WON! hands down, they could not find a republican who could beat him (Obama). Went through the primaries, was the unknown-underdog, WON! Hands down (considering), Running for President, LEADING IN ALL CATAGORIES (in polls), Republicans have not found anybody or any way to beat him, McCain will not face him in debate, unless under very strictly controlled circumstances, I'm betting not more than 3 debates, and NO direct conversation between Obama and McCain as McCain would only turn red, lose his temper and cus on national TV, while popping nitro pills.

        But yeah, Hillary and the rest of the KARL ROVE TEAM say he's unelectable...lol Keep thinking that, and it will be even easier ;)

        • Posted By: citron16 @ 06/16/2008 11:02:46 PM

          Anyone who knows anything about Illinois knows it's rare for a republican to win in this state. And he ran against Alan Keys very few people ever liked him!!! The primaries, Obama was the underdog. But then the DNC and the Media totally backed him especially MSNBC!! No matter what came out about Obama the media down played it all, and the Obamabots fell for it all!! I do think any debate between McCain and Obama, McCain would win because Obama won't be able to read a written speach!!!

          • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 06/18/2008 1:49:37 AM

            And McCain might forget the topic.

          • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/17/2008 6:12:23 PM

            2 things
            1. any body who knows anything about Texas know they don't allow no democrats there.
            2. Poor baby, citron, you should check the polls, and serveys, and the fact that out of all the "networks" MSNBC gave Clinton better coverage than any other newwork and more positive coverage by about4% than Obama.

            "Obama could'nt read a written speach"...lol AT LEAST HE CAN READ!!!

            Watch this one, when it happens I hope you're brave enough to show up here and hear "I told oyu so"...when McCain explodes.

            Now McCain is doing a GREAT job debating himself...keep an eye on that one too.

        • Posted By: Core Democrat in Texas @ 06/17/2008 1:58:25 PM

          delusional

      • Posted By: citron16 @ 06/16/2008 8:31:08 PM

        No experience!!! He has done nothing as Senator of Illinois!!! Rev. Wright, Farrahkan, Pfleger, Rezko, Ayers. Attending Trinity church for 20 years listening to GOD D A M N America, seeing nothing wrong with that and then wanting to become president of the United States!!! NOOBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/16/2008 8:48:04 PM

          Awe I'm disapointed you left out so many "Hannity Classics" here let me help you with YOUR talking points...
          you forgot...sweetie, bitter, clinging, elitist, muslim, gay, smoker, crackhead, murderer, see NOW GET WITH IT MAN, come on, what would Jesus Limbaugh do?

          Now when you actually have some FACTS TO BRING UP, come and talk to us, but that about covers the FOXpublican talking points ;)

          good day mam.

          • Posted By: archmsu @ 06/16/2008 9:43:18 PM

            Here are some Facts for you Dreamer.....
            Obama, voted 97% of time down party lines (democrat), that is when he was in washington, which isn't alot seeing that he has been running for the presidency for almost two years now. He hasn't even finished his term as a US Senator, and as a IL. resident that bugs me, why did i even vote for him! Finally, he's black. I'm not a rasict and have voted for him in the past, but "middle america" isn't going to vote for him and his militant wife. Just like Kerry bombed during the general election (how many states did he win?....3 or 4, maybe even 5!), so will Obama. But you keep on dreaming if makes you "feel" good.
            PS The problem with this country isn't the presidency, it's Congress, because they let Bush do what ever he wanted, and don't try that "Bush trick'em" crap, because that's admitting your a sucker......

            • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/17/2008 6:17:35 PM

              OMG must I teach you everything...

              Obama leads in EVERY CATAGORY by double digits, except "white males" where only 36% SAY THEY WILL VOTE FOR HIM AND THAT NUMBER IS GROWING.

              Look at the polls and theere you will face the truth, not your FOXfantasy.

          • Posted By: citron16 @ 06/16/2008 9:01:21 PM

            Those are the facts, but thanks for finishing the list!

            • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/16/2008 9:24:37 PM

              So then I guess you also believe in the following "facts"...
              Eatser Bunny, Santa, Boogeyman, Banshees, Tooth Fairy, the Lucky Charms Guy, WMDs, werewloves, vampires, nessy, mccain being a hero (LMAO), are thos ethe facts too, got they come from the same mental capacity, never mind I know the answer...hey answer this for me though is the word "NUCLEAR" or "NUCULAR"?

              • Posted By: citron16 @ 06/16/2008 11:30:38 PM

                No these are who you and Obama believe in, Eatser Bunny, Santa, Boogeyman, Banshees, Tooth Fairy, the Lucky Charms Guy, WMDs, werewloves, vampires, and Rev. Wright.

                • Posted By: Pia1981 @ 06/17/2008 10:14:10 AM

                  Citron, WMD's? Obama supporters don't believe they ever existed. Just saying...

                  • Posted By: hotstuff @ 06/17/2008 4:56:02 PM

                    Pia, never mind citron.
                    She´s mentally deranged!

          • Posted By: marksgershenson @ 06/16/2008 11:18:17 PM

            LOL

        • Posted By: nmcalpine @ 06/17/2008 9:58:50 AM

          I know who you are Sean Hannity and you are not fooling anyone.Go back to FOX news and deliver your conservative talking points that you use everday with no basis to back up your claims. You are as dumb as a bucket of rocks.

          • Posted By: hotstuff @ 06/17/2008 4:58:33 PM

            No, nmcalpine.
            citron is much dumber than a bucket of rocks!
            But she´ll tell you she´s a genius!

        • Posted By: mystic88 @ 06/17/2008 12:47:19 AM

          Aside from Washington, Lincoln, Roosevelt, Truman, possibly JFK, who has the experience to be President? Experience means an event or series of events lived through. And we're not talking about the vicarious experience of living in the White House like Hillary had. If I paid enough in the Clinton years, I too could have lived in the Linclon bedroom of the White House.

      • Posted By: dreffein @ 06/16/2008 8:31:42 PM

        marks....- I have no idea whether Obama is going to win. The Gallup poll shows him up by 4% and historically, when someone has just won the nomination, they receive a larger bump. Whether this is meaningful this year is anyone's guess. Both candidates have issues. Until some time passes, and someone makes a mistake, or dirt is dug up, I think this will continue to be very close.

        I think the other real problem for Obama's prospects might be with the Electoral College. We all saw how Gore won the popular vote but lost the electoral. Obama seems to be having problems in many formerly thought of Democratic must have states - like FL and OH (even Newsweek has an article about Obama looking to find ways to win without those states).

        • Posted By: mystic88 @ 06/17/2008 12:49:03 AM

          Gore's electoral problem was Jeb in Florida. I suppose you'll vote for Jeb in 2012? As the HRC alternative?

          • Posted By: dreffein @ 06/17/2008 12:38:40 PM

            Mystic88 - where did that come from? I only responded to the question of electability and raised potential problems in FL. How does that make me a jeb Bush supporter in 2012?

  • Posted By: jondoe888 @ 06/16/2008 4:35:57 PM

    Writing in Hillary's name on the ballot is just like the dopes who wrote in Nader's name - and will produce the same result. No one will be that stupid... again.

    • Posted By: citron16 @ 06/16/2008 5:42:25 PM

      You are right writing in Hillary's name would not help because not enough people would do it and the DNC would figure out some way not to count those votes!!! Maybe the DNC should wake up and see the mistake they made and change it now before it is too late!!!! Maybe it's the DNC that want to see McCain win in Novenber!!! Stranger things have happened. It would explain why they backed Obama!!

      • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 06/18/2008 1:46:01 AM

        What mistake? More votes translate to more pledged delegates and more superdelegates preferred
        Sen. Obama. Try counselling. Enough whining.

      • Posted By: hotstuff @ 06/16/2008 7:40:09 PM

        citron, stop these brain farts!
        You´re not a Democrat at all!
        You´re some lousy Rep., trying to cause some chaos among the Dems.

        • Posted By: citron16 @ 06/16/2008 11:10:52 PM

          Maybe just maybe I have more of a brain than you!!!!!!!!!!!! Common sense!!! Not that you would know what that means.

          • Posted By: hotstuff @ 06/17/2008 4:32:44 PM

            citron, that´s your funniest post so far!
            Listen, folks, citron has a brain!!!?????
            That´s hilarious!

  • Posted By: HolyRoller @ 06/15/2008 5:00:34 PM

    I'm sure you have all missed me. Been enjoying the Fla. sun with my family. Just to make sure all ya'll are up to date...................

    I've been called every nasty name, the obamamohammeds, can get away with, on this blog. I try and tell ya'll, if HolyRoller, tells it, it is TRUE. Guess who is speaking at the NATIONAL PRESS CLUB on June 18th, 1:00-5:00????? None other than the BarackStar's limo ridin', rock smokin', man lovin' partner....
    ..........MR. LARRY SINCLAIR himself. Under risk of bodily harm, Sinclair's claims and proofs(or other) will be aired for the entire nation to hear. Hussein better do more than set up a website to handle his baggage, cause it's about to start raining trash.. He is completely unelectable.

    Check out the info. 1,230,000 hits a climbing fast..........http://larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/

    Good to be back home.

    NOBAMA!!!

    • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 06/16/2008 8:35:36 PM

      Yeah, missed you like a toothache.

      • Posted By: catspaw @ 06/17/2008 6:17:09 PM

        or like a cob up the ass

        • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 06/18/2008 1:34:22 AM

          Sounds serious.

  • Posted By: just jerry @ 06/16/2008 11:10:26 AM

    I believe Obamas problem is much broarder based than just women, how about the men that don't like the way a woman was treated to character assassination, gender bias, and discounted by an Obama campaign that was supposed to be above the kind of politics that divides people rather than unites them to work together?
    In addition his comments in San Francisco show as snobbish attitude toward those democrats of lower income status that are the lifeblood of what democrats have always been about but who don't have liberal college educations. The Clinton's both connected with this part of the electorate and Obama doesn't. What will he do about this critical part of the electorate? He connects with the elite liberals, but not with working class people more interested in action than eloquent speeches.

    • Posted By: Lancesmother @ 06/16/2008 2:12:09 PM

      That is ridiculous, when did Mr. Obama commit character assassination against women, when was he gender biased. I never heard anything like that coming from the Obama campaign and I have read everything. Don't make accusations without facts to back them up.

      • Posted By: Core Democrat in Texas @ 06/16/2008 5:23:40 PM

        The Obama campaign sends their "talking points" to the media. They don't publish them on their website. I heard seveal media people say on TV that the talking point for saying the Clintons played the race card and calling the Clintons racist was sent to them by people with the Obama campaign. The Obama website does not tell you about the attacks and dirty tricks that his campaign operatives are up to.

        • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 06/16/2008 8:34:53 PM

          I heard Bill Clinton discount Jesse Jackson's previous primary wins in South Carolina, I heard Geraldine Ferraro say that Sen. Obama is 'lucky' he's black. Forget about media talkikng points, I know racism when I hear it and I heard it loud and clear.
          .

          • Posted By: Core Democrat in Texas @ 06/17/2008 2:52:56 PM

            Nope, you conclude that because the media pounded the idea every day for months.
            Anyone with any knowledge of recent history or politics know that Bill Clinton and Ferraro are not racist, and that both have battled against racism and for greater opportunites for blacks for their entire careers.
            Jesse Jackson did win South Carolina and Michigan: I remember cheering when it happened and thinking maybe he had a chance to win the nomination. But it turned out that those two wins did not translate into a primary victory. No one was sadder than I to learn in 1988 that those two states are not a bellwether for the rest of the primary. Observation of history does not make one a racist, actions do. But labeling by the media creates a powerful emotion that facts can not penetrate.

            • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 06/18/2008 1:31:25 AM

              I 'got' it from Bill Clinton's and Geraldine Ferraro's own mouths. Nuts to trying to blame 'media pounding' for their smartass comments. Why did either feel the need to hone in on race? The upshot? They didn't get away with it.

    • Posted By: Core Democrat in Texas @ 06/16/2008 1:23:48 PM

      good points

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