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  • Posted By: thebm4life @ 06/16/2008 4:07:40 PM

    COMMENT IN RESPONSE TO THINKING4YOURSELF: WOULDN'T YOU BE FIERCELY IN OPPOSITION TO A MOVEMENT OF PEOPLE NO MATTER WHAT COLOR, SEX, OR CREED, IF THEY WERE TRYING TO KEEP THE COUNTRY GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION, OVER PERSONAL REASONS, NOT AT ALL LOGICALLY OR FINANCIALLY MOTIVATED? I TOO, AM UPSET ABOUT THE CONSTANT IGNORANCE OF THE PEOPLE WHO FOLLOW THIS ELECTION. 80% OF AMERICA THINKS THAT THE COUNTRY IS GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. HILLARY AND BILL HAD THEIR TURN FOR 8 YEARS, THE REPUBS FOR 8 ALSO, WHAT EXACTLY IS YOUR REASON FOR WANTING ANOTHER CLINTON OR REPUBLICAN REGIME. AND UNLESS YOU CAN PROVIDE A REAL, CREDIBLE ANSWER, PLEASE KEEP QUIET, OR YOU WILL ANGER ANYONE WITH COMMON SENSE (I KNOW IT'S RARE IN THESE TIMES) NOT JUST OBAMA SUPPORTERS.

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 06/16/2008 4:14:04 PM

      Why are you so mad if your candidate won the primary? Nobody is going to convince you of anything, but everybody has a right to participate

      • Posted By: hotstuff @ 06/16/2008 7:52:31 PM

        Don´t you have anything more meaningful to say?
        Always the same crap?

    • Posted By: think4yourself @ 06/16/2008 4:15:16 PM

      You are the perfect example of what I was talking about. Thank you for proving my point. BTW this is how you reply :) Good bye

      • Posted By: tracyruns262@netscape.net @ 06/16/2008 4:20:12 PM

        Perhaps that when Bill was in Office - we were at PEACE, PAYING DOWN THE NATIONAL DEBT - for starters!!!!!

  • Posted By: vakosh @ 06/16/2008 4:38:53 PM

    to bmf: this is not bitter lemons. I like John McCain, I have always respected him, if Obama had a few more years experience, I would consider him, but he doesn't. I have never voted against someone and I am not doing that now, I sincerely think John McCain would be an excellent president.

    • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/16/2008 5:29:05 PM

      I agree...thousands more DEAD Americans and a country DESTROYED by it's own President, sounds refreshing...I'm with you on that ;)

      • Posted By: citron16 @ 06/16/2008 5:39:03 PM

        Maybe just maybe it's called finishing what we started ! NOOBAMA!!!

        • Posted By: hotstuff @ 06/16/2008 7:37:02 PM

          Citron, now I get it!
          You´re not a Democrat at all!
          You´re posing as one!
          Cos no true Democrat wants to continue the mess in Iraq!

        • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/16/2008 6:50:07 PM

          Briliant Philosophy! MORE DEAD is finishing what we started? So what exactly would that be, AFGHANISTAN?!?!? No you are speaking of Iraq, we did not start that Bush did, and he's leaving. If I have a guest in my house they can watch whtever they like on my TV, but when they leave I do not finish what THEY started. I turn the F$#KING chanel.
          Let "finish what we started in Afghanistan, and come home, that's all. Iraq has had 6yrs and 3trillion dollars, I think that's about enough.

  • Posted By: thebm4life @ 06/16/2008 5:13:07 PM

    Dear Dreffein,(roughly 4-5 comments down) I am going to let you in on a little secret, we were hurt when Clinton labeled "OBAMA" unelectable, and basically roasted him, we though he was well done. He didn't hit back like WE though he should've, not as you know "the underdog" . Then we became just as surprised as she/her supporters were. But it was the aftermath, after all of the knock down drag out, she still acted, to me, a little stubborn and too resistant. The fact that a disciplined, well-organized, and somewhat hard-to-imagine candidate made it. The fall-out from the It's HILLARY OR MCCAIN movement seems a little too much to stomach when the economy is so deflated and mismanaged. Bigger problems loom, and the only proven independently wildly successful somewhat-outsider-looking-in declared winner, is: OBAMA. The only one who has lived and has seen the effects of this American economy for his lifetime, on all levels, from the absolute poverty stricken, to middle class, now presidential level economics. Who else has that behind his eyes is going for the presidency? OBAMA. Am I lying? I want to know?

    • Posted By: nyleharris @ 06/16/2008 5:40:43 PM

      @ thebm4life - Let them go. They don't owe the Democratic party anything, clearly the views of the party come second to Hillary Clinton being who she is. If they want to vote McCain, so be it. McCain will be everything he has told us he will be, more Bush tax cuts, overturn abortion, stay the course in Iraq; at least he's not lying, yet. If they truly feel like Hillary Clinton is worth 4,000 more dead American soldiers, they can have their wish. Whatever happens in November, this country will get exactly what it deserves.

      • Posted By: News and Notes @ 06/16/2008 5:49:47 PM

        Offensive

        • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/16/2008 6:00:08 PM

          OMG! are you kidding me? "Offensive"...what about "true", "good point", "something to think about", "thank you", anything else, but just "offensive"...jeeeesss, women.

          • Posted By: News and Notes @ 06/16/2008 6:05:28 PM

            nyle's comment is offensive. not bm4.

            • Posted By: nyleharris @ 06/16/2008 6:15:21 PM

              You know what's offensive? I have family and friends fighting right now while SOME bitter
              democrats are willing to risk more war, out of their particular preference of two people
              who share the same ideals. What's offensive is that SOME people are so blinded by the
              political season, they forget the ideals they began this race with. What's offensive,
              is that some would vote for 4 more years of war, just so their particular candidate
              can be the one to end it. THAT is offensive. Offensive to me as human being,
              and offensive to every soldier that risks their life for this needless cause.
              We've been duped so many times by this administration, "axis of evil"..
              "weapons of mass destruction", and some were brave enough to answer the call.
              What's offensive is how invaluable SOME people from their air-conditioned office computer
              see those soldiers now, because their particular candidate didn't win.
              This started out as war vs peace, and somehow got maneuvered into clinton vs obama.
              People have lost sight of what really matters. And others will die for our ignorance. I don't know about you "news and notes", but for too many years, this war that America DOES NOT want, has been out of the control of the people. Now that we finally have a chance to end it, by voting for peace, the idea that some would continue it for a personal vendetta is beyond me. The blood of my family who is serving now, and the blood of those who willingly risked their lives for a reason that has changed 3 times over, will not be on my hands. If the reality of war, or the reality of how BIG this election is, should offend you, move to Mexico.

              • Posted By: News and Notes @ 06/16/2008 6:31:21 PM

                Nobody wants peace more than I do, but linking Hillary to another 4000 soldiers is offensive

                • Posted By: nyleharris @ 06/16/2008 6:56:13 PM

                  In no way am I linking Hillary Clinton to the death of 4,000 soldiers, and I apologize if I gave you that impression. I will, without question, link the Republican party, and every republican, independent and yes, democrat who votes for McCain, who votes for a continuation of this war, to the next 4,000 soldiers who have yet died, but undoubtedly will, if this war should continue. If you want peace as much as you say you do, then I would challenge you to vote for it.

                  • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/16/2008 7:21:26 PM

                    Actually 2 things let us not forget the dead in Ahghanistan which when conbined brings the number to almost 4500. Then remember McCain wants 100yrs of WAR and to go to war in IRAN.
                    Let's work with the 4500 number for now, the breaks into 750 a year (2 a day) for 6 years. If we take that to 100yrs thats 75,000 dead for OIL. That's a number and entire city of opur sons and daughters DEAD for OIL if we stay at hte current pace, that McCain wants to increase.

              • Posted By: citron16 @ 06/16/2008 6:26:06 PM

                I have a nephew over there to but I can tell you no matter who becomes president our troops will not just be pulled out of Iraq. That would be impossible to do!! Hillary Clinton was the only candidate who said she would start pulling troops out within 90 days if she were elected. Obama has said by 2012!! Once we went into Iraq it was a given that we would have to stay and help the people there. We can't turn the clock back, I wish we could !!

                • Posted By: nyleharris @ 06/16/2008 6:45:59 PM

                  Citron16 - I will pray for your nephew, as i pray for every soldier. Clinton, Obama, and even Edwards, Kucinich and every democrat i know want this war to end. It would have made no difference to me if any one of them one the nomination. Like you, I wish we could turn back the clock, but we cannot. Clinton has not won the nomination. Obama has, and McCain has, and that's all I am dealing with. I dont know exactly how fast Obama can pull our troops, my brother, and your nephew out of Iraq, but I know he plans on it. I do know that McCain has absolutely no intention of pulling them out, and no idea on when they can come home, and thinks that my brother getting his college paid for by the government is a bad idea. On that alone, I am voting Democratic, I am voting for peace, which means I will be voting for Obama, and encouraging everyone I know and don't know to please, vote for peace.

              • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/16/2008 6:29:52 PM

                AMEN!

            • Posted By: hotstuff @ 06/16/2008 6:28:29 PM

              Nonsense. The folks will get exactly the kind of government they deserve!
              Nothing more, nothing less!
              If they haven´t hurt enough under Bush and the GOP,
              I guess they need an extra dose from McCain!!
              The only tragedy is those of us who loathe McBush will be forced to bear the consequences
              of their stupid choice!
              And that´s why we´ll fight tooth and nail to prevent just that!

      • Posted By: citron16 @ 06/16/2008 5:57:11 PM

        The views of the democratic party the DNC were blinded when they decided to back Obama!!! Maybe they should have checked he out better.

    • Posted By: dreffein @ 06/16/2008 5:23:26 PM

      Your response had nothing to do with my comment. You suggested that if HRC had won, Obama supporters would embrace her. I disagreed and gave reasons.

      OK - so you've changed the subject I guess to whether I think Senator Obama is just the best person to be our next President because he's been poor, middle class and rich. A lot of people have started life that way. It doesn't qualify them to be President. It's their vision, ability to lead, ability to manage and experience. From what I've seen of Senator Obama, he gives good speeches that are high on inspiration and low on specifics. In the IL Senate, he voted "present" over 130 times. He was in the US Senate for ~150 days and then decided to run for President. His anti-war views (which I share) are now being squandered because he lacked the foresight to go over to Iraq and now is losing that issue to McCain who has started a countdown of the number of days since Barack visited Iraq (1/2006). According to the NYT, he delegates virtually everything - except when it comes to writing his speeches and reviewing ads. I'm not impressed.

      • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/16/2008 6:14:53 PM

        Yeah cause a shot and a beer, lying about "sniper fire" (repeatedly), talking about assassination (repeatedly), comparing your struggle to anything form the Beattles to Rosa Parks, and trying to cheat, all those show a strong "presidential character"? The only candidate who has been TOTALLY consistant in honesty, strength, character, maturity, confidence (not ego), and the ability to admit fault has been OBAMA. Hillary has stil NEVER admited to making a mistake voting yes for Iraq, if you say she did you better site your source NOW! Because I know for a FACT SHE HAS NOT! The closest she ever came was when a moderator phrased it and spoke it for her and she kinda nodded, that's it.
        Who cares if he has gone to Iraq, McCain and Bush have been there tons, and constantly ignored the generals troops there, if one spoke out agaunst Iraq, he was forced to retire. McCain is not couting sh!t, we're all counting how many times he confuses sunni and shia, or troop levels, hezbollah and al qaeda, what if McCain starts killing the wrong Iraqis? then what? how many years to fix that quagmire?
        He is winning, and keeps winning, so if delegating works good for him, Do you really think Bush had made one single decision by his self...come on...that's the whole point to build a strong team, an honest team, and take care of business, like Lincoln did ;)

        It will all be alright, I knwo FOX NOISE not only informs you but scares you too, but it will be ok.

        • Posted By: citron16 @ 06/16/2008 6:30:32 PM

          Check Clinton and Obama's last debate, I think she said it there!!!

  • Posted By: nicsea @ 06/16/2008 4:58:05 PM

    My apologies. This is what was meant:
    So, all Clinton supporters have been respectful and all Obama supporters have been disrespectful? That seems a bit biased.

    Your comment presupposes that the presidency was Hillary Clinton's for the taking. It was not. Barack Obama didn't "take" Clinton's spot; but, rather, he earned it--amassing the most delegates, superdelegates and states won.

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 06/16/2008 5:36:08 PM

      Now that Obama has the nomination, it is to his benefit for his supporters to be respectful of Hillary's supporters, because he needs them. States won is not a measure of winning the nomination

      • Posted By: nicsea @ 06/16/2008 5:43:24 PM

        States won is absolutely not a measure--that is why I preceded the mention with delegate and superdelegate counts.

        Also, it is important for everyone to be respectful, not simply because it is politically expedient but because it is the right thing to do.

        • Posted By: News and Notes @ 06/16/2008 5:51:41 PM

          I wish more Obama supporters followed your advice about respect

          • Posted By: hotstuff @ 06/16/2008 6:59:02 PM

            "News and Notes" is such an authority on, the embodiment of respect!!
            Like using the N-word on Obama!
            Get a life. Go and vote in McCain and his policies!
            Just because you don´t want a black guy as President!
            Anybody but Obama, right?
            The issues don´t matter, right?
            If you´re really a Clinton supporter, then listen to this:

            " What Senator Obama and I share
            is so much greater than our differences;
            and no matter who wins this nomination,
            I will do everything I can to bring us together
            and move forward!"
            Hillary Clinton

            Grow up, get rid of your racism and vote for YOUR issues, as represented by the Democrats!
            Stop spreading your hate, discord and racist propaganda!
            There´s no way a smart, bias-free Clinton supporter can vote for anti-Clinton McCain!!
            Only stupid racists would do that!
            You´d be cutting your nose to spite your face!
            Give it up!!
            The New America deserves better than the likes of "News and Notes", Core-Democrat-in-Texas,
            Stupid-in-Alabama, Sportlock, VotersIssues, etc....


          • Posted By: cinesimon @ 06/16/2008 6:09:23 PM

            As somebody looking in from outside, you all need to respect each other, apologize for past mistakes and get on with what's important: making America a better place for your children. And supporting the Republican candidate is not the way. From that common denominator, go forth and campaign for your children's futures! Arguing between Hillary and Barack supporters only makes the right wing nationalists stronger - which you should all be thoroughly frightened of, and willing to set your differences aside for.

  • Posted By: satalight2 @ 06/16/2008 6:58:05 PM

    A good article and it behoves the Senator to take your advice seriously. I also hope that women "feel" what you say and realize that there is a lot riding on this election. When all is said and done, we can't afford to be "noseless". No, no we ain't going back!

  • Posted By: LisaB303 @ 06/16/2008 3:53:36 PM

    I think the writer of the article, probably like many women, reached the initial conclusion that Obama's "sweetie" comment indicated a patronizing attitude towards women. But his life reflects the opposite of that. He speaks of his grandmother with the utmost respect and has earned the support of an educated and intelligent woman - his wife. My take on the "sweetie" comment is that as a man who has two young daughters (who probably are always pestering him with questions - like reporters do as well), he is probably used to attaching "sweetie" to his responses. Let's try to be fair here.

    • Posted By: tracyruns262@netscape.net @ 06/16/2008 4:21:23 PM

      When you are in a professional setting, speaking with an adult - you might try to speak in a professional manner - not as if you are speaking to you children who are BOTH under the age of 10!

      • Posted By: elizabethpaige @ 06/16/2008 6:57:56 PM

        "A male chauvinist (Sen. McCain unleashing the c-word on Cindy McCain) is beyond the pale.

        Successful women remember the importance of good manners in a 'professional' setting. The reporter who claims she wasn't offended by Sen. Obama's "Just a minute, sweetie" had no business yelling a question at him as she did. Sen. Obama wasn't holding a 'scrum' and was probably taken aback by her rudeness.

        Professional reporters respect protocol, they wait to be 'recognized' before asking a question.

  • Posted By: satalight2 @ 06/16/2008 6:54:34 PM

    A well written article and I hope the Senator hears you loud and clear. I hope so for all women--particularly those 50 +. I also hope that women know what is at stake--no, no we ain't going back!

  • Posted By: loriw @ 06/16/2008 6:41:02 PM

    I am amazed at people like the author of this article, that think that Hillary Clinton was the person who most represented feminist women. How does what Clinton said about women's rights compare to her behavior in condoning all of Bill's demoralizing behavior toward women especially his own wife Hillary? Wouldn't a President that showed respect for his marriage and his wife have been better than a President who mocked marriage and his wife's feelings from the Oval office? How is it that Hillary's tolerance of Bill's long standing behavior of treating women like sex objects is supposed to convince us that she is pro-women's rights?

  • Posted By: nyleharris @ 06/16/2008 5:09:15 PM

    Oh this is good. Whole bunch of liars, and republicans posing themselves as democrats in here, but this conversation is rich nonetheless. I just have one question to all you Clinton supporters, who are suddenly not democrats.

    Would you rather see an Obama-Clinton ticket or a McCain-Clinton ticket?

    • Posted By: citron16 @ 06/16/2008 6:09:50 PM

      I would rather see a McCain - Clinton ticket!! or McCain -Lieberman ticket would be great too!!!

      • Posted By: hotstuff @ 06/16/2008 6:30:48 PM

        McCain-Clinton?
        Oil-Water?
        How do you mix them?

        • Posted By: citron16 @ 06/16/2008 6:39:58 PM

          nyleharris is the one that brought that up I was just kidding with my answer. I just don't want Clinton running with Obama!!!

      • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/16/2008 6:20:28 PM

        Now you're just out of your F@#KING mind, LIEBERMAN!? He wants to attack Iran more then anybody ever!!! He is a JUDAS not a JEW, he is a physcho, and a turncoat who has been there only to serve Bush and keep McCain straight in the sunni/shia thing, what the hell is wrong with you, you have just lost whatever shred of credibility you were "clinging" to...

        • Posted By: citron16 @ 06/16/2008 6:35:00 PM

          It was just as crazy as the question I answered to!!!!

  • Posted By: WomanOfNow @ 06/16/2008 6:11:43 PM

    Excellently written! A truly forthcoming statement born from the very force of women themselves! Myself, I always said that if Hillary ran I would vote for her. As a woman, proud of her sex and gender, in align with Hillary's views I must say that while I will not be voting for a female in November, I will be voting for the leader that most represents her ideals and vision. A leader is able to reach out to every population, with the exception of the remaining bigots and racists of America. I am a woman, and I proudly support Obama. But Ms.Quindlen is right, stretch that invigorating, view changing, voice of yours and reach out!your

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 06/16/2008 6:15:45 PM

      Thank you! Finally someone trying to persuade Hillary supporters to vote for Obama, rather than insult them

      • Posted By: HDavidson @ 06/16/2008 6:28:39 PM

        That's right! Remember all of you, the right to "insult" falls squarely on the shoulders of Hillary supporters, all other are to remain silient while the "vent".

  • Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 06/15/2008 9:28:54 PM

    Anna Quinden's article can be neatly summed up:
    "Waa, we women have it soooo tough, waa, everything is unjust and everyone is mean to us, waa, waa, waa, we must have abortion on demand, waa, waa, waa, the glass ceiling is holding us back, waa, waa, waa".

    I just felt the need to summarize it as a public service for anyone not wanting to read the entire self-pitying, kvetching, self-absorbed text.

    • Posted By: dreffein @ 06/15/2008 10:17:17 PM

      Hey Jimbo - if you substituted blacks for women would you still respond in the same manner?

      • Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 06/16/2008 5:34:24 PM

        If it were written in the same whiney, self-absorbed,whoa-is-me fashion, then yes.

      • Posted By: Core Democrat in Texas @ 06/16/2008 1:34:23 PM

        good point

  • Posted By: thebm4life @ 06/16/2008 5:02:25 PM

    SORRY FOR THE ALL CAPS, MY GIRL JUST POINTED OUT THE SERIOUSNESS OF THAT. Now, on to bigger and better things. i don't have anything against Mr. McCain, but I can clearly see that he is a figure-head for the Republican party. The war in Iraq is the single most devastating thing to happen to the economy in recent History. The real beneficiaries of the war are the Weapons manufacturers and the Contractors for the rebuild process. An American private security guard makes roughly $7 more than a U.S. soldier who is the worst casualty in the War equation, That is hardly the pinnacle of the vast imbalances the War presents. Please reconsider your position when it comes to the "best man for the job" . Factor in the people who live and work outside of Washington. This type of public acceptance of these governing body miscalculations is only hardening the attitude of these "so called experienced leaders". when did anybody put the brakes on the credit industry, that reflects credit cards, home loans, investments. Somebody way up there is pulling "hat tricks" on us. when is it our time to hold the winning hand? Think about that. Obama's supporters made supporters made him who he is. he is nothing without them, you can make that us. THAT.., LADIES & GENTLEMEN is a president.

  • Posted By: nicsea @ 06/16/2008 4:38:13 PM

    What does John McCain have to do to secure votes? It would seem that voters--white women in particular--expect much more from Obama than his Republican opponent. After all, McCain has laughed off comments about Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama that were respectively sexist and racist--possibly isolating women and African Americans. What exactly makes McCain more desirable to those groups?

  • Posted By: thebm4life @ 06/16/2008 4:32:12 PM

    BY THE WAY, I WOULD EMBRACE THE HILLARY SUPPORTERS IF SHE WON, I THINK ANY DEMOCRAT IS BETTER THAN ANY REPUBLICAN. BUT WHY SHOULD WE BE EXPECTED TO INITIATE THE EMBRACE, OR EVEN TOLERATE THIS RETALIATION TALK, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY SOCIALLY NEGATIVE AND AMERICA AND LIFE-CHANGING NEGATIVE THREATS COMING FROM THAT CAMP? WHAT KIND OF DOUBLE STANDARD IS THAT? I AM JUST BEING HONEST. OBAMA SUPPORTERS WOULD HAVE NEVER THREATENED TO UPSET THE BALANCE OF THE ISSUES AND WHAT TO DO ABOUT THEM AS SEVERE AS THIS. THE ISSUES SUPERCEDE ANY PERSONAL DIFFERENCES, SERIOUSLY.

  • Posted By: thebm4life @ 06/16/2008 4:17:21 PM

    OH YEAH, AN UNCOMFORTABLE AMOUNT OF THAT PERCENTAGE OF THAT 80% OF THE PEOPLE WHO THINK(KNOW) THAT THE COUNTRY IS GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION, WILL BE CASTING VOTES FOR MORE-THE-SAME-GAME _-OR-_ AN IMAGINARY CANDIDATE . THAT I CANNOT EXPLAIN, CAN YOU? BY THE WAY, MR MCCAIN HAS SHOWN HOW UNPROFESSIONAL HE IS IN A POSITION OF AUTHORITY WHEN IT COMES TO HIS FEMALE SUBORDINATES, EVEN AFTER BEING WARNED OF THE POLITICAL REPERCUSSIONS, STILL NO CHANGE. THEN PROCEEDS TO GO OVER $250,00 IN DEBT ON THE TAXPAYERS' MONEY, OBAMA MADE HIS MONEY BY PUTTING HIS KNOWLEDGE AD EXPERIENCE INTO A BOOK, THEN SPENT THE MONEY IN A NOBLE AND SOMETIMES HARD TO SWALLOW WAY: BILL PAYING AND EDUCATION FOR HIS KIDS. FOR AMERICA AND THE WORLDS BENEFIT. NOW HE IS TRYING TO WRITE A NEW BOOK WITH AMERICA'S PEN IN HIS HAND, THE SAME ONE THAT GOT HIM WHERE HE IS TODAY, AND YOU SAY HE LACKS EXPERIENCE, LOOK AT THE CANDIDATES TRACK RECORDS, WHAT GIVES?

  • Posted By: vakosh @ 06/16/2008 4:13:28 PM

    to: the bmf .... why are you angry ... we said we were not going to vote for him ... they polled us on election night and we SAID we were not going to do it ... why is this such a surprise to you. Did you really think that because Howard Dean and Nancy Pelosi said we would be united that it would happen? You and all your friends need to pay attention. We TOLD you we were going to do it and now your angry? When the headline on November 5th reads NO WRATH LIKE A WOMAN SCORNED, I hope you are not surprised (and angry all over again).

  • Posted By: thebm4life @ 06/16/2008 4:02:16 PM

    HOW ABOUT THIS? When it comes to experience...just in the campaign capacity, CLINTON ENDED HER PRESIDENTIAL BID 20 MILLION IN DEBT. It has been reported that THE RICH MCCAIN'S HAD $250,000 IN U.S. SENATE DEBT.(OUR MONEY, NOT THEIR(HER) MILLIONS) BUT OBAMA, HAD ALL OF HIS BILLS PAID AND PUT $200,000 INTO HIS DAUGHTERS' COLLEGE SAVINGS FUND. WHERE DO THESE CANDIDATE PUT THEIR MONEY? THE ONLY ONE WITH CAMPAIGN FINANCES IN THE MAJOR SURPLUS IS OBAMA, I WANT AN AMERICA THAT HAS A SURPLUS AND ALL OF IT'S BILLS PAID. WHY WOULD YOU PUT THE PRESIDENCY IN THE HANDS OF A CANDIDATE(S) WHO CAN'T MANAGE THEIR OWN MONEY, LET ALONE OURS!!! WHAT ABOUT THAT? OBAMA PUT HIS MONEY INTO BILL PAYING AND EDUCATION, NOT PERSONAL GAIN. WHO WOULDN'T WANT THAT EXAMPLE IN A PRESIDENT? UNLESS YOU CAN ANSWER THAT WITH SOME LOGIC, SHUT THE &*%$ UP!

  • Posted By: pissed-off @ 06/16/2008 3:50:08 PM

    sometimes being in the loser's circle can blind you yet if your are staying a democrat or even independant you were alway's on his mind even republican's he's seriuos he want's all of us united to save this nation and get us back to being leaders of the free world so stay in involved in this race and get happy for we have the best candidate already campaigning

  • Posted By: kamakazii @ 06/16/2008 3:23:06 PM

    While i would never underestimate the power of feminism in america I do not think it is an issue that is as easily tackled as racism. Every "minority" wants equality and the terms of equality are near universally agreed upon. With women the terms of equality are not accepted by all, in fact in many cases they are contridicted by individual women. Treat me equally but don't hit me, don't give my children to their father, don't expect me to pay child support, be chivalrous but not chauvanistic (which is kinda contradictory). Then you have the women who would like nothing else than to go back to being judged by their crusts and busts. Then their are those who are so judgmental of themselves that they do more damage than a thousand "sexist" reporters. That is a tall order to put before Sen Obama.

    The problem with feminism today is that most women don't know what they want from the movement. The movement speaks in contradictions constantly.

    • Posted By: nicsea @ 06/16/2008 3:29:29 PM

      Insightful commentary.

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